Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Main / IKnowYourTrueName

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** Knowing a person's real name makes using magic on them from a distance much, ''much'' easier. As a result, mages take "shadow names", sharing their true names only with their closest allies (as sometimes having someone be able to cast spells on you is beneficial).

to:

*** Knowing a person's real name makes using magic on them from a distance much, ''much'' easier. As a result, mages take "shadow names", sharing their true names only with their closest allies (as sometimes having someone be able to cast spells on you is beneficial). Second Edition further refines the idea of "real names" into "Sympathetic Names," or the name that the person uses in real life to the point that it is imprinted on their psyche.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Integral to [[OurDemonsAreDifferent devils]]. Names and Masks are what raise them from being inchoate spirits of Void, and the fewer names they have, the closer they are to {{Eldritch Abomination}}s of primal black fire.

to:

** Integral to [[OurDemonsAreDifferent devils]]. Names and Masks are what raise them from being inchoate spirits of Void, and the fewer names they have, the closer they are to {{Eldritch Abomination}}s of primal black fire. Ebon Devils only have one name, which is stated to be their own in a True Name sort of way... And then there is the King of Devils, simply known as Himself. He named and masked ''himself'' somehow, despite unmasked devils having zero cognition and personality, and in establishing his True Name as "Myself" he [[OxymoronicBeing broke reality and became exempt from its laws]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup


** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', this is Downplayed when regarding [[OurDragonsAreDifferent dragons]]. Dragon names are all [[MakeMeWannaShout Thu'um]] shouts, and when someone Shouts a dragon's name, the dragon can always hear it. This does ''not'' actually give you any control over said dragon (you want Bend Will for that), but the dragon will treat it as a challenge and will usually seek out whoever made the shout, due to a combination of curiosity and [[HonorBeforeReason honor]]. This is also true for [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]], who has the soul of a dragon, as the [[OldMaster Greybeards]] summon him/her to High Hrothgar by calling out the ''Dragonborn's'' name using the Thu'um. Just like the dragons, though, [[TakeYourTime you're not actually under any obligation to answer their call.]]

to:

** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', this is Downplayed when regarding [[OurDragonsAreDifferent dragons]]. Dragon names are all [[MakeMeWannaShout Thu'um]] Thu'um shouts, and when someone Shouts a dragon's name, the dragon can always hear it. This does ''not'' actually give you any control over said dragon (you want Bend Will for that), but the dragon will treat it as a challenge and will usually seek out whoever made the shout, due to a combination of curiosity and [[HonorBeforeReason honor]]. This is also true for [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]], who has the soul of a dragon, as the [[OldMaster Greybeards]] summon him/her to High Hrothgar by calling out the ''Dragonborn's'' name using the Thu'um. Just like the dragons, though, [[TakeYourTime you're not actually under any obligation to answer their call.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
General clarification on work content


*** OD&D Supplement IV ''Gods, Demi-Gods & Heroes'' and the 1E ''Deities and Demigods Cyclopedia''. In Myth/CelticMythology, every creature has a secret name linked to its soul. Anyone who knows the name can control the creature or simply make them die. The deity Oghma automatically knows the secret name of any non-godlike creature.

to:

*** OD&D ** ''TabletopGame/OriginalDungeonsAndDragons'' Supplement IV ''Gods, Demi-Gods & Heroes'' and the 1E ''Deities and Demigods Cyclopedia''. In Myth/CelticMythology, every creature has a secret name linked to its soul. Anyone who knows the name can control the creature or simply make them die. The deity Oghma automatically knows the secret name of any non-godlike creature.

Added: 141

Changed: 80

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)


** 1[[superscript:st]] Edition AD&D:
*** Several spells usable against creatures from other planes (Banishment, Binding, Planar Call and Torment) required the use of the creature's true name.

to:

** 1[[superscript:st]] Edition AD&D:
''TabletopGame/AdvancedDungeonsAndDragonsFirstEdition''
*** Several spells usable against creatures from other planes (Banishment, Binding, Planar Call Call, Spiritwrack and Torment) required the use of the creature's true name.



*** The Oriental Adventures supplement said that in Oriental lands a person's secret name is given to them at birth and never revealed to others. Learning a person's secret name gives you magical power over them.

to:

*** The Oriental Adventures supplement said that in Oriental lands lands, a person's secret name is given to them at birth and never revealed to others. Learning a person's secret name gives you magical power over them.them.
*** The TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms spell Body Sympathy only works on a creature if the caster speaks the target's true name during casting.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

** ''Liber Canticorum''. The Song of Calling can be used to call any being if the singer knows the being's true name.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Some say that the best way to make a troll stop is to call them out by their full name. More thorough retaliation involves phone numbers, addresses, class schedules, friends, relatives, and photos. Collectively these are known as "dox" and to release this information is to known as "dropping dox". Take note that this is risky business for the namer, as many forums have strict rules against posting the personal information of others to prevent cyberbullying. Ironically, this is also a common harassment tactic used by trolls themselves. The best way to use this against trolls it to reveal small kernels of information at a time, things that let the troll know that ''you'' know who they are, but without fully revealing their identity to others.

to:

** Some say that the best way to make a troll stop is to call them out by their full name. More thorough retaliation involves phone numbers, addresses, class schedules, friends, relatives, and photos. Collectively these are known as "dox" and to release this information is to known as "dropping dox".dox" or "doxxing". Take note that this is risky business for the namer, as many forums have strict rules against posting the personal information of others to prevent cyberbullying. Ironically, this is also a common harassment tactic used by trolls themselves. The best way to use this against trolls it to reveal small kernels of information at a time, things that let the troll know that ''you'' know who they are, but without fully revealing their identity to others.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** If [[OurBansheesAreLouder Silver Banshee]] knows a person's real name, then her [[MakeMeWannaShout scream]] will instantly kill them if they hear it. Because she doesn't know Superman's real name is Kal-El, her scream can only hurt his ears, much to her frustration.

to:

** If [[OurBansheesAreLouder Silver Banshee]] knows a person's real name, then her [[MakeMeWannaShout [[SuperScream scream]] will instantly kill them if they hear it. Because she doesn't know Superman's real name is Kal-El, her scream can only hurt his ears, much to her frustration.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
General clarification on work content


** A Seraphim (type of angel) of the Archangel Yves knows the true name (if any) of any being that it comes in contact with and can use this knowledge to pierce any illusion with a touch.

to:

** A Seraphim (type of angel) of the Archangel Yves knows the true name (if any) of any being that everyone it comes in contact with and can use this knowledge to pierce any illusion with a touch.

Changed: 103

Removed: 121

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
General clarification on work content


** A Seraphim (type of angel) knows the true name (if any) of any being that it touches.
** A Seraphim of the Archangel Yves automatically knows all true names and can use this knowledge to pierce any illusion.

to:

** A Seraphim (type of angel) of the Archangel Yves knows the true name (if any) of any being that it touches.
** A Seraphim of the Archangel Yves automatically knows all true names
comes in contact with and can use this knowledge to pierce any illusion.illusion with a touch.

Added: 121

Changed: 80

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
General clarification on work content


** A Seraphim (type of angel) knows the true name (if any) of any being that it touches. A Seraphim of the Archangel Yves can use this knowledge to pierce any illusion.

to:

** A Seraphim (type of angel) knows the true name (if any) of any being that it touches. touches.
**
A Seraphim of the Archangel Yves automatically knows all true names and can use this knowledge to pierce any illusion.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)


** A Seraphim (type of angel) knows the true name (if any) of any being that it touches.

to:

** A Seraphim (type of angel) knows the true name (if any) of any being that it touches. A Seraphim of the Archangel Yves can use this knowledge to pierce any illusion.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

** ''Game Master's Guide''. The true name of God is unknown. Anyone who learns His true name will be granted immense power.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
General clarification on work content


** ''Ethereal Player's Guide''. In the Marches, the Domain known as Deceitful will reveal its true nature if any part of it is called by its true name.

to:

** ''Ethereal Player's Guide''. In the Marches, the a Domain known as with the quality of Deceitful will can reveal its true nature if any part of it is called by its true name.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

** ''Ethereal Player's Guide''. In the Marches, the Domain known as Deceitful will reveal its true nature if any part of it is called by its true name.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Wouldn’t this be a more likely reason?


** Like many chapters, chapter 4 is accessed by pipe; however, unlike those chapters, this pipe initially spits you back out. To pass through, you need to carry something with your name on it. Since you don't know of ????? at this point, this seems like a non-sequitur; the reason for its existence becomes clear when [[spoiler:you try to enter it as a shadow, and once again it spits you out. It's there to prevent Doopliss from escaping to the outside world]].

to:

** Like many chapters, chapter 4 is accessed by pipe; however, unlike those chapters, this pipe initially spits you back out. To pass through, you need to carry something with your name on it. Since you don't know of ????? at this point, this This seems like a non-sequitur; the reason for its existence becomes clear when [[spoiler:you try to enter it as a shadow, and once again it spits you out. It's there to prevent Doopliss you from escaping to leaving without the outside world]].Yoshi partner (you would be locked out of reentering otherwise, and you would also be able to visit Twilight Town before completing Chapter 3)]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
General clarification on work content


** A sorcerer can use a Banishment ritual to banish an ethereal spirit or demon if the sorcerer knows the spirit/demon's true name.
** A sorcerer can use a Summon Named Demon ritual to summon a specific demon if the sorcerer knows the demon's true name.

to:

** *** A sorcerer can use a Banishment ritual to banish an ethereal spirit or demon if the sorcerer knows the spirit/demon's true name.
** *** A sorcerer can use a Summon Named Demon ritual to summon a specific demon by name if the sorcerer knows the demon's true name.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* ''TabletopGame/InNomine''
** A Seraphim (type of angel) knows the true name (if any) of any being that it touches.
** Supplement ''Corporeal Player's Guide''
** A sorcerer can use a Banishment ritual to banish an ethereal spirit or demon if the sorcerer knows the spirit/demon's true name.
** A sorcerer can use a Summon Named Demon ritual to summon a specific demon if the sorcerer knows the demon's true name.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In the UsefulNotes/Nintendo64 game ''VideoGame/AidynChronicles: The First Mage'', [[spoiler: A massive portion of the quest is for the main character to learn his true name and thus gain the power to defeat the BigBad.]]

to:

* In the UsefulNotes/Nintendo64 Platform/Nintendo64 game ''VideoGame/AidynChronicles: The First Mage'', [[spoiler: A massive portion of the quest is for the main character to learn his true name and thus gain the power to defeat the BigBad.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Spelling/grammar fix(es)


** The Old French word for 'fox' is "goupil", but the animal was so hated by the countryfolk they'd rather call it "Renart" after [[Literature/ReynardTheFox the folk tale character]], and by the 18th century the word "renard" had replaced goupil.

to:

** The Old French word for 'fox' is "goupil", but the animal was so hated by the countryfolk they'd rather call it "Renart" "Renard" after [[Literature/ReynardTheFox the folk tale character]], and by the 18th century the word "renard" had replaced goupil.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Webcomic/SlightlyDamned'': Demons have magical collars and wristbands that when placed on an angel prevent that angel from speaking or using magic which they use for keeping angels prisoner. They need to know the angel's name in order for them to work and once they are put on the angel they can't be taken off, except if anybody says the angel's name nearby, they immediately fall off. This can happen even if the speaker doesn't actually want to release the angel so they have to be careful not to accidentally say the names of their prisoners.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** There was also the belief that if you destroy all records of someone's name, their '[[OurSoulsAreDifferent Ka]]' would no longer exist. This has been attempted on unpopular pharaohs (like Akhenaten by everyone, and Hatshepsut by either her successor and stepson Thutmose III or his own son and successor Amenhotep II (the latter is now considered more likely by Egyptologists; most evidence indicates that Hatshepsut and Thutmose ruled jointly on good terms until her death).

to:

** There was also the belief that if you destroy all records of someone's name, their '[[OurSoulsAreDifferent Ka]]' would no longer exist. This has been attempted on unpopular pharaohs (like Akhenaten UsefulNotes/{{Akhenaten}} by everyone, and Hatshepsut UsefulNotes/{{Hatshepsut}} by either her successor and stepson Thutmose III or his own son and successor Amenhotep II (the latter is now considered more likely by Egyptologists; most evidence indicates that Hatshepsut and Thutmose ruled jointly on good terms until her death).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* In order to conclude exorcisms in ''VideoGame/ConradStevensonsParanormalPI'', the targeted demon's true name must be discovered and uttered in a banishing prayer.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
US SS Ns have not yet needed to be reused


* In the United States, one's Social Security Number is effectively this. They are designed to be unique, used only when unambiguous identification is necessary, and if someone else gets it they can cause some problems, to the point that people do not share them with even their closest friends or family members.[[note]]US [=SSNs=] are technically not unique to a person. They are recycled after a period of time. Thus, while a number will be unique to a ''living'' person at any time, it's entirely possible that your SSN was once held by a person long-dead. After all, there's only 1 billion possible SSN combinations ; in a country of 300+ million alive right now (and 10+ million new births/immigrants each year), reuse is inevitable (and there have been well publicized cases of confusion). Also, you ''can'' get your SSN changed under certain circumstances.[[/note]]

to:

* In the United States, one's Social Security Number is effectively this. They are designed to be unique, used only when unambiguous identification is necessary, and if someone else gets it they can cause some problems, to the point that people do not share them with even their closest friends or family members.[[note]]US [=SSNs=] are technically not unique to a person. They are may eventually be recycled after a period of time. Thus, while time, although a number will be unique to a ''living'' person at any time, it's entirely possible that your SSN was once held by a person long-dead. After all, there's time. There's only 1 billion possible SSN combinations ; in and over half of those have already been assigned. In a country of 300+ 330+ million alive right now (and and 10+ million new births/immigrants each year), year, eventual reuse is inevitable expected (and there have been well publicized cases of confusion).confusion due to accidental duplicates). Also, you ''can'' get your SSN changed under certain circumstances.[[/note]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** The Old French word for 'fox' is "goupil", but the animal was so hated by the countryfolk they'd rather call it "Renart" after [[Literature/ReynardTheFox the folk tale character]], and by the 18th century the word "renard" had replaced goupil.

Changed: 366

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* The City of Rome's true name was an actual state secret kept as jealously as the US missile launch codes which is understandable given their beliefs. It was illegal to speak it out loud, lest priests from a enemy state use it to curse Rome. As a result, nobody knows Rome's true name anymore.

to:

* The City of Rome's true name was an actual state secret kept as jealously as the US missile launch codes which is understandable given their beliefs. It was illegal to speak it out loud, loud on pain of death, no exceptions,[[note]]Quintus Valerius Soranus was a Tribune of the Plebs, and thus as long as he was in office harming him was an act of sacrilege and punished with death... But according to historians he dared to either write it down or say it out loud in public and was thus executed on the cross or even lynched by the Plebs themselves[[/note]] lest priests from a enemy state use it to curse Rome. As a result, nobody knows Rome's true name anymore.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Played with in ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}''. According to a house rule, the pit fiend can be forced to serve any mortal who speaks his true name. Incidentally, his true name is definitely not Richard, Francis, Leslie, Winkypoop the Slippery Monkey, or Walter. [[spoiler:It's Grinnorarcen.]]

to:

* Played with in ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}''. According to a house rule, the pit fiend can be forced to serve any mortal who speaks his true name. Incidentally, his true When Minmax learns this, he tries guessing the pit fiend's name is definitely and finds it's not Richard, Francis, Leslie, Winkypoop the Slippery Monkey, or Walter. [[spoiler:It's Grinnorarcen.[[spoiler:Later, the party fights an alternate Minmax who sucessfully guessed Grinnorarcen, whom Kin frees by convincing him to tell her his name.]]

Top