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** This happened three times with Italy over two wars:
*** In UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, it was noted that Italy was likely to "rush to the aid of the victors". Indeed, despite nominally being part of the Triple Alliance (with Germany and Austria-Hungary), they found an excuse not to join in...and then joined the Allies after the war became deadlocked and it was clear that Germany wasn't going to win a quick victory.
*** In World War II, they only declared war on and invaded France at the proverbial last minute (joining in on June 10; for reference, the French air force had mostly stopped resisting on June 9, and Paris was declared an open city on June 10 and would fall on June 14). This would entitle them to annex or occupy various pieces of French territory once France surrendered...two weeks after they joined the war (and after they had only failed to take a few mountain passes, despite numerical superiority).

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** * This happened three times with Italy over two wars:
*** ** In UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, it was noted that Italy was likely to "rush to the aid of the victors". Indeed, despite nominally being part of the Triple Alliance (with Germany and Austria-Hungary), they found an excuse not to join in...and then joined the Allies after the war became deadlocked and it was clear that Germany wasn't going to win a quick victory.
*** ** In World War II, they only declared war on and invaded France at the proverbial last minute (joining in on June 10; for reference, the French air force had mostly stopped resisting on June 9, and Paris was declared an open city on June 10 and would fall on June 14). This would entitle them to annex or occupy various pieces of French territory once France surrendered...two weeks after they joined the war (and after they had only failed to take a few mountain passes, despite numerical superiority).
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SubTrope of DefeatMeansFriendship.

In a normal DefeatMeansFriendship scenario, someone formerly opposed to the hero joins their side or at least becomes more affable towards them shortly after being defeated by them. In this trope, the defeat is the sole reason for their HeelFaceTurn. The defeated character effectively says, "Okay, now that I know you're stronger, I'm gonna join up with you now. " The reasons for this vary:

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A SubTrope of DefeatMeansFriendship.

DefeatMeansFriendship. In a normal DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Means Friendship scenario, someone formerly opposed to the hero joins their side or at least becomes more affable towards them shortly after being defeated by them. In this trope, the defeat is the sole reason for their HeelFaceTurn. The defeated character effectively says, "Okay, now that I know you're stronger, I'm gonna join up with you now. " The reasons for this vary:



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** Sellswords are notorious for switching sides like this. When Queen Danys accuses Brown Benn Plumm of betrayal, he simply points out that his mercenary company the Second Sons took a vote, and didn't think she was going to win. Given that they originally were hired to fight her and then defected, she shouldn’t have been surprised. Now that Danys has proven herself a DragonRider, the Second Sons look ready to defect to her side again.

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** Sellswords are notorious for switching sides like this. When Queen Danys Daenerys Targaryen accuses Brown Benn Ben Plumm of betrayal, he simply points out that his mercenary company company, the Second Sons Sons, took a vote, and didn't think she was going to win. Given that they originally were hired to fight her and then defected, she shouldn’t have been surprised. Now that Danys Daenerys has proven herself a DragonRider, the Second Sons look ready to defect to her side again.
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* In the Aesop's fable "The Birds, The Beasts, and The Bat," the birds and the beasts are at war. The bat repeatedly switches sides to fight for whichever side is currently winning. When the war is over, neither the birds nor the beasts want anything to do with him.

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* In the Aesop's fable "The Birds, The Beasts, and The Bat," the birds and the beasts are at war. The bat bats repeatedly switches switch sides to fight for whichever side is currently winning. When the war is over, neither the birds nor the beasts want anything to do with him.the bats, and that's why they hide in caves during the day and only come out at night.
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* In the Aesop's fable "The Birds, The Beasts, and The Bat," the birds and the beasts are at war. The bat repeatedly switches sides to fight for whichever side is currently winning. When the war is over, neither the birds nor the beasts want anything to do with him.
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* This is often seen as one of the reasons that the Republic of Afghanistan struggled and ultimately crumbled in 2021. Due to Afghanistan's terrain and general culture, many of its inhabitants lived in small and isolated communities that had little connection to the capitol, and therefore saw themselves first and foremost as part of their tribes rather than part of a nation. Consequently, their loyalty to the government mostly only extended to respecting them as the biggest fish in the pond, and when it became evident that they probably weren't anymore, they shrugged and quit.
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** This happened three times with Italy over two wars:
*** In UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, it was noted that Italy was likely to "rush to the aid of the victors". Indeed, despite nominally being part of the Triple Alliance (with Germany and Austria-Hungary), they found an excuse not to join in...and then joined the Allies after the war became deadlocked and it was clear that Germany wasn't going to win a quick victory.
*** In World War II, they only declared war on and invaded France at the proverbial last minute (joining in on June 10; for reference, the French air force had mostly stopped resisting on June 9, and Paris was declared an open city on June 10 and would fall on June 14). This would entitle them to annex or occupy various pieces of French territory once France surrendered...two weeks after they joined the war (and after they had only failed to take a few mountain passes, despite numerical superiority).
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* ''Fanfic/MyFathersSon'': Like in ASongOfIceAndFire, this was why Tywin was hesitant to get involved in [[spoiler: Rhaegar's Rebellion]] since he didn't want to back a losing team. He's pushed into action by receiving prophetic summons from Melisandre. She showed him that failure to act would only make things worse down the line, but once he sees [[spoiler: Rhaegar's new dragon]] he instantly knew he backed the winning side.
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* From the 2010s onwards, numerous businesses have expressed their support for Pride Month by posting messages of support on their social media profiles and changing their logos to rainbow variants for the duration of the month. Plenty of individuals on the LGBT+ spectrum don't appreciate the effort, as this superficial show of support only came after queer rights were fought for and won over decades of grassroots campaigning.
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* Major Dan Carter, the sole human villain of ''VideoGame/CTwelveFinalResistance'', is a former human soldier who, upon realizing humanity doesn't stand a chance against an AlienInvasion, instead defected to the alien's side, even helping his alien masters capture humans and converting them into cyborg slaves.
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* The Spriggan Twelve of ''Manga/FairyTail'' are twelve extremely powerful mages who serve Emperor Spriggan of the Albareth Empire as his PraetorianGuard. Prime Minister Yajeel's conversation with Markarov implies that the main reason they follow Spriggan is because even they pale in comparison to him.

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* The Spriggan Twelve 12 of ''Manga/FairyTail'' are twelve extremely powerful mages wizards who serve Emperor Spriggan of the Albareth Alvarez Empire as his PraetorianGuard. Prime Minister Yajeel's conversation with Markarov implies that the main reason they follow Spriggan is because even they pale in comparison to him.
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* In ''VideoGame/StarCraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm'', the Broodmothers (Zerg Queens that take the place of the old Cerebrates) were specifically programmed by Kerrigan to follow this logic. Dehaka, who joins with Kerrigan on the planet Zerus, cites this as his reason for joining her.

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* In ''VideoGame/StarCraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm'', the Broodmothers (Zerg Queens that take the place of the old Cerebrates) were specifically programmed by Kerrigan to follow this logic. Dehaka, who joins with Kerrigan on the planet Zerus, cites this as his reason for joining her. However, he also subverts this later after they learn of [[spoiler:Amon's]] existence, and Kerrigan asks Dehaka if he's considering joining as he's most certainly stronger than her. Dehaka says that may be true, but he's also smart enough to know that [[spoiler:Amon]] is an OmnicidalManiac, so no good will come of siding with him.
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* Wrestling/PaulBearer would frequently switch allegiances between Wrestling/TheUndertaker and Wrestling/{{Kane}} depending on which of the two had the upper hand in their feuds. When Paul first turned on Kane to re-side with the Undertaker, he said outright that he did it because Kane was weaker than his brother.

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* Wrestling/PaulBearer would frequently switch allegiances between Wrestling/TheUndertaker and Wrestling/{{Kane}} depending on which of the two had the upper hand in their feuds.feuds at any given time. When Paul first turned on Kane to re-side with the Undertaker, he said outright that he did it because Kane was weaker than his brother.
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* [[Wrestling/TammyLynnSytch Sunny]] managed her [[CastIncest on-screen brother and real-life boyfriend]] [[Wrestling/ChrisCandido Skip]], whose gimmicks were heel versions of WorkoutFanservice, mocking fans for being out of shape while showing off their bodies. Sunny then managed a tag team of Skip and Zip, who later won the tag team championship. When they lost the championship, she jumped to whoever held the belts: first the Godwins and then the Smoking Gunns. This proved to be the StartOfDarkness for Wrestling/BillyGunn's heel turn.
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** This holds true in the preceding series, ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', as well. During the Clone Wars, Mandalore is shown to have entered a period of peace in spite of their ProudWarriorRaceGuy history, which Clan Vizsla disagreed with and so they formed the terrorist organization Death Watch under the leadership of Pre Vizsla. This eventually led them into a pragmatic alliance with Darth Maul to set up a false flag operation with Maul as the leader of a new, galaxy-spanning crime syndicate which will briefly take over Mandalore, allowing Vizsla and Death Watch to liberate it, become heroes, and end the pacifist government of Satine Kryze. When Vizsla decides to keep Maul locked up instead of setting him up to run his syndicate out of Mandalore, Maul engineers an escape and challenges Vizsla to a duel, killing him and claiming leadership of Death Watch in the process. Most of the Death Watch then sides with him, but Satine's sister Bo-Katan--who was also Vizsla's second-in-command--objects and goes on to lead a resistance against Maul in the Final Season and then the anti-Empire Mandalorian factions during ''Rebels''.

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** This holds true in the preceding series, ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', as well. * ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': During the Clone Wars, Mandalore is shown to have entered a period of peace in spite of their ProudWarriorRaceGuy history, which Clan Vizsla disagreed with and so they formed the terrorist organization Death Watch under the leadership of Pre Vizsla. This eventually led them into a pragmatic alliance with Darth Maul to set up a false flag operation with Maul as the leader of a new, galaxy-spanning crime syndicate which will briefly take over Mandalore, allowing Vizsla and Death Watch to liberate it, become heroes, and end the pacifist government of Satine Kryze. When Vizsla decides to keep Maul locked up instead of setting him up to run his syndicate out of Mandalore, Maul engineers an escape and challenges Vizsla to a duel, killing him and claiming leadership of Death Watch in the process. Most of the Death Watch then sides with him, but Satine's sister Bo-Katan--who was also Vizsla's second-in-command--objects and goes on to lead a resistance against Maul in the Final Season and then the anti-Empire Mandalorian factions during ''Rebels''.
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* In the backstory of ''Series/TheBoys2019'', Frederick Vought switched sides from Nazi Germany to the United States during World War II when the Wehrmacht started to lose ground. [[spoiler: His widow Stormfront is even willing to work under Stan Edgar, an African-American [[{{Muggles}} muggle]], as long as the experiments with Compound V continue under his watch]].
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* Kenpachi Zaraki in ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' eventually does a HeelFaceTurn (sort of, it's complicated) and decides to help out Ichigo and his TrueCompanions, on the basis that if Ichigo survives, Zaraki will get to [[BloodKnight fight him again]].

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': Kenpachi Zaraki in ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' eventually does a HeelFaceTurn (sort of, it's complicated) and decides to help out Ichigo and his TrueCompanions, on the basis that if Ichigo survives, Zaraki will get to [[BloodKnight fight him again]].



* In ''Manga/SaintSeiya'', Cancer Deathmask and Pisces Aprhodite are aware that the "Pope" is an evil usurper but they still serve him because of their firm belief that "might makes right", and Gemini Saga is definitely the strongest of them all.

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* In ''Manga/SaintSeiya'', ''Manga/SaintSeiya'': Cancer Deathmask and Pisces Aprhodite are aware that the "Pope" is an evil usurper but they still serve him because of their firm belief that "might makes right", and Gemini Saga is definitely the strongest of them all.



* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': Sergeant Simian only works for the strongest; when Scourge attempted to win over the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Destructix]] into working for him, he had to convince Simian that he was strong enough to earn the latter's respect and loyalty.

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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': Sergeant Simian only works for the strongest; when strongest. When Scourge attempted to win over the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Destructix]] into working for him, he had to convince Simian that he was strong enough to earn the latter's respect and loyalty.



** In [[ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth "The Killers of Krypton"]], Rogol Zaaar's followers quickly and unanimously bow down to and join ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} when she beats Rogol Zaar down.

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** In [[ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth "The Killers of Krypton"]], ''ComicBook/TheKillersOfKrypton'', Rogol Zaaar's followers quickly and unanimously bow down to and join ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} when she beats Rogol Zaar down.



-->''Your devotion is nothing more than cowardice. You would not be here if you had anywhere else to go.''

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* "When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse." - Osama bin Laden
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* This is why many people consider the Battle of Antietam to be the turning point of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. The Union had suffered many defeats and it was suspected that Britain and France would soon officially recognize the Confederacy, but the Union victory at Antietam dissuaded them. It also helped that Lincoln was waiting for a Union victory to issue the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation Emancipation Proclamation]], and did so after Antietam. This meant that if the British and French governments (which had already abolished slavery in their own countries) recognized the Confederacy, they would be tacitly supporting its stance on slavery as well.
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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': Sergeant Simian only works for the strongest; when Scourge attempted to win over the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Destructix]] into working for him, he had to convince Simian that he was strong enough to earn the latter's respect and loyalty.

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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': Sergeant Simian only works for the strongest; when Scourge attempted to win over the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Destructix]] into working for him, he had to convince Simian that he was strong enough to earn the latter's respect and loyalty.
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* ''WesternAnimation/SheRaAndThePrincessesOfPower'': Double Trouble starts working for the Horde explicitly for money, but as soon as they found out the Rebellion had a superweapon, they switched their alliance to be on the winning side. Then, when the Galactic Horde shows up and starts steamrolling the Rebellion, Double Trouble tries joining them, though they quickly wind up disillusioned since a group of HiveMind drones make a poor audience for Double Trouble's dramatic flair.
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** This holds true in the preceding series, ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', as well. During the Clone Wars, Mandalore is shown to have entered a period of peace in spite of their ProudWarriorRaceGuy history, which Clan Vizsla disagreed with and so they formed the terrorist organization Death Watch under the leadership of Pre Vizsla. This eventually led them into a pragmatic alliance with Darth Maul to set up a false flag operation with Maul as the leader of a new, galaxy-spanning crime syndicate which will briefly take over Mandalore, allowing Vizsla and Death Watch to liberate it, become heroes, and end the pacifist government of Satine Kryze. When Vizsla decides to keep Maul locked up instead of setting him up to run his syndicate out of Mandalore, Maul engineers an escape and challenges Vizsla to a duel, killing him and claiming leadership of Death Watch in the process. Most of the Death Watch then sides with him, but Satine's sister Bo-Katan--who was also Vizsla's second-in-command--objects and goes on to lead a resistance against Maul in the Final Season and then the anti-Empire Mandalorian factions during ''Rebels''.
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* In ''Franchise/XMen'' storyline ''ComicBook/XCutionersSong'', Stryfe defeats Apocalypse, and then points out to Apocalypse's followers that their master's own "the Survival of the Fittest" creed means they should follow ''him'' now. Apocalypse's troops agree and side with Stryfe.

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* In ''Franchise/XMen'' storyline ''ComicBook/XCutionersSong'', ''X Cutioners Song'', Stryfe defeats Apocalypse, and then points out to Apocalypse's followers that their master's own "the Survival of the Fittest" creed means they should follow ''him'' now. Apocalypse's troops agree and side with Stryfe.

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* Downplayed by some captured [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Clan warriors]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Battletech}}''. Some refuse to fight for the Inner Sphere "barbarians," but others see being defeated in combat as proof that the Inner Sphere is worthy of fighting for. Some take to it better than others. It's also enforced by their culture, as defeated enemy warriors and captured civilians can be taken as bondsmen, essentially functioning as spoils of war.



** The [[MurderInc Antican Crows]], of whom [[spoiler:Zevran]] was a member combine this with PragmaticVillainy. After their initial attempt to kill you fails, Ignacio will offer you a number of contracts. Complete them, and he'll assure you they all benefited your side of the civil war. If pressed for elaboration, he'll explain that the Crows are smart enough to know the Blight has to be stopped (the end of the world is bad for business); and after you survived their first attempt, they decided you and not Loghain are the best chance to stop it. He'll also warn you that another contract exists (once opened, it can't be closed), but no ''more'' will be placed on you, and he personally will not help the remaining assassin.

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** The [[MurderInc Antican Antivan Crows]], of whom [[spoiler:Zevran]] was a member combine this with PragmaticVillainy. After their initial attempt to kill you fails, Ignacio will offer you a number of contracts. Complete them, and he'll assure you they all benefited your side of the civil war. If pressed for elaboration, he'll explain that the Crows are smart enough to know the Blight has to be stopped (the end of the world is bad for business); and after you survived their first attempt, they decided you and not Loghain are the best chance to stop it. He'll also warn you that another contract exists (once opened, it can't be closed), but no ''more'' will be placed on you, and he personally will not help the remaining assassin.
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** The [[MurderInc Antican Crows]], of whom [[spoiler:Zevran]] was a member combine this with PragmaticVillainy. After their initial attempt to kill you fails, Ignacio will offer you a number of contracts. Complete them, and he'll assure you they all benefited your side of the civil war. If pressed for elaboration, he'll explain that the Crows are smart enough to know the Blight has to be stopped (the end of the world is bad for business); and after you survived their first attempt, they decided you and not Loghain are the best chance to stop it. He'll also warn you that another contract exists (once opened, it can't be closed), but no more will be placed and on you, and he personally will not help the remaining assassin.

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** The [[MurderInc Antican Crows]], of whom [[spoiler:Zevran]] was a member combine this with PragmaticVillainy. After their initial attempt to kill you fails, Ignacio will offer you a number of contracts. Complete them, and he'll assure you they all benefited your side of the civil war. If pressed for elaboration, he'll explain that the Crows are smart enough to know the Blight has to be stopped (the end of the world is bad for business); and after you survived their first attempt, they decided you and not Loghain are the best chance to stop it. He'll also warn you that another contract exists (once opened, it can't be closed), but no more ''more'' will be placed and on you, and he personally will not help the remaining assassin.
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* Saïx in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' outright says that TheHeartless ally with whoever's strongest, though this refers not to them making peace with or joining [[TheHero Sora]] (which would be...[[AlwaysChaoticEvil problematic]] on several levels), but to them ditching [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Maleficent]] and the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon villains for the EvilerThanThou Organization XIII.

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* Saïx in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' outright says that TheHeartless ally with whoever's strongest, though this refers not to them making peace with or joining [[TheHero Sora]] (which would be...[[AlwaysChaoticEvil problematic]] on several levels), but to them ditching [[Disney/SleepingBeauty [[WesternAnimation/SleepingBeauty Maleficent]] and the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon villains for the EvilerThanThou Organization XIII.
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* Wrestling/PaulBearer would frequently switch allegiances between Wrestling/TheUndertaker and Wrestling/{{Kane}} depending on which of the two had the upper hand in their feuds. When Paul first turned on Kane to re-side with the Undertaker, he said outright that he did it because Kane was weaker than his brother.
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** The [[MurderInc Antican Crows]], of whom [[spoiler:Zevran]] was a member combine this with PragmaticVillainy. After their initial attempt to kill you fails, Ignacio will offer you a number of contracts. Complete them, and he'll assure you they all benefited your side of the civil war. If pressed for elaboration, he'll explain that the Crows are smart enough to know the Blight has to be stopped (the end of the world is bad for business); and after you survived their first attempt, they decided you and not Loghain are the best chance to stop it. He'll also warn you that another contract exists (once opened, it can't be closed), but no more will be placed and on you, and he personally will not help the remaining assassin.
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* "When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse." - Osama bin Laden

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