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* ''Theatre/CesareIlCreatoreCheHaDistrutto'': The title character's father [[UsefulNotes/PopeAlexanderVI Rodrigo Borgia]] isn't all that heroic, but his bad reputation isn't all deserved -- the other priests at the time were [[CorruptChurch just as corrupt]], like his rival [[UsefulNotes/PopeJuliusII Giuliano della Rovere]], who tried to get two of Cesare's college classmates to assassinate him, and who inherited a faction that tried to assassinate Lorenzo de'Medici in church during mass. In that BlackAndGreyMorality world, the Borgias weren't the only ones doing whatever it takes to get to the top.
* In ''Theatre/CrossRoad'', violinist Niccolo Paganini made a DealWithTheDevil, and everyone can tell from the way he plays that that's where his genius comes from. He has nuns protesting against him, gets rotten eggs thrown at him, his house graffitied, banished from his hometown, the whole lot.
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* Esmeralda from ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackofNotreDameDisney'' is a beautiful, young Romani performer and activist who constantly rebels against [[BigBad Frollo]] trying to protect her people from being persecuted and exterminated because of his tyrannical reign over Paris. After seeing the public humiliate Quasimodo via ProducePelting, much to Frollo's joy after his status as a hunchback has made his presence known to everyone at the Festival of Fools, Esmeralda runs up to the stage and defends Quasimodo before angrily calling out Frollo for abusing him the same way he does the same to the Romani. Unfortunately, this also results in Frollo developing an obsession with Esmeralda and starts lusting after her, threatening to have her executed by being [[BurntheWitch burned at the stake]] if she refuses to join him in his bed.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer4000'': The Lamenters Chapter of Space Marines are often considered the most unquestioningly noble, heroic, and compassionate of all Chapters (most of whom range from AntiHero to straight VillainProtagonist). However, they're also considered "cursed" by most of their cousin Marines and the Imperium at large, due to being a product of the infamous "Cursed 13th" founding. A large number of Chapters formed in this founding were known to either fall to Chaos, or possess horrific mutations that forced them to be purged, though the Lamenters are neither. Worse still, the Lamenters had the ill luck to be on the wrong side of the Badab War, a civil war that they joined for legitimate and noble reasons (defiance of the [[ObstructiveBeauracrat High Lords of Terra]]), in which one of their ally chapters ''also'' fell to Chaos. These two associations have led to one of the most heroic Chapters being regarded as borderline-heretics and little better than traitors.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer4000'': ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'': The Lamenters Chapter of Space Marines are often considered the most unquestioningly noble, heroic, and compassionate of all Chapters (most of whom range from AntiHero to straight VillainProtagonist). However, they're also considered "cursed" by most of their cousin Marines and the Imperium at large, due to being a product of the infamous "Cursed 13th" founding. A large number of Chapters formed in this founding were known to either fall to Chaos, or possess horrific mutations that forced them to be purged, though the Lamenters are neither. Worse still, the Lamenters had the ill luck to be on the wrong side of the Badab War, a civil war that they joined for legitimate and noble reasons (defiance of the [[ObstructiveBeauracrat High Lords of Terra]]), in which one of their ally chapters ''also'' fell to Chaos. These two associations have led to one of the most heroic Chapters being regarded as borderline-heretics and little better than traitors.
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** [[HumansAreMorons People like]] [[BullyingADragon pissing off]] someone above their SuperWeight category.

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** [[HumansAreMorons People like]] [[BullyingADragon pissing off]] someone above their SuperWeight JustForFun/SuperWeight category.
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** Missed payments on her HeroInsurance.

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Usually serves as the grass-roots support for a SuperRegistrationAct. Can be a reason that HilaritySues. Especially ironic when it happens to the SlaveToPR. Think of it as a tamer situation than BewareTheSuperman, where the only people who are acting like the supers are the ones to be feared are individuals and not society. The permanent version of the UntrustingCommunity. When the hero's problems are evident only to intimates, is NoHeroToHisValet. A bad guy that people like is a VillainWithGoodPublicity. A character who can do no wrong in the public eye has HundredPercentHeroismRating. When the hero is pushed too far and concludes that being a hero for this undeserving society is up to no good, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he might as well become evil...]]

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Usually serves as the grass-roots support for a SuperRegistrationAct. Can be a reason that HilaritySues. Especially ironic when it happens to the SlaveToPR. Think of it as a tamer situation than BewareTheSuperman, where the only people who are acting like the supers are the ones to be feared are individuals and not society. The permanent version of the UntrustingCommunity. When the hero's problems are evident only to intimates, is NoHeroToHisValet. A bad guy that people like is a VillainWithGoodPublicity. A character who can do no wrong in the public eye has HundredPercentHeroismRating. When the hero is pushed too far and concludes that being a hero for this undeserving society is up to no good, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he might as well become evil...]]
]] Contrast KarmicShunning, in which a character is deserving of their pariah status.
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* [[EverybodyHatesHades Hades/Pluto]] is frequently portrayed as a [[HijackedByJesus Hellenistic analogue to Satan]] in modern media. This portrayal of him is entirely unfair. He was certainly a {{Jerkass}} by modern standards, but [[JerkassGods most of the Hellenistic gods were]]. If the Hellenes had a Satan-type, it would have been Ate, the personification of ruin, folly, and destruction who causes... well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin ruin, folly and destruction]] ForTheEvulz. Of course, this would serve as an inversion for those who believe he is evil... To clarify, unlike Satan who was cast into Hell for defying {{God}}, Hades pretty much got the job of ruling the afterlife because his older brothers screwed him over. Zeus claimed the Earth and the Heavens, Poseidon the Sea, meaning the Underworld was all that was left for Hades. He didn't like the job, but he wasn't overly cruel about it (at least, not in comparison to some of the other gods). And since his realm included the entire afterlife, including the Gardens of Elysium, he was essentially the ruler of both Heaven and Hell.

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* [[EverybodyHatesHades Hades/Pluto]] is frequently portrayed as a [[HijackedByJesus Hellenistic analogue to Satan]] in modern media. This portrayal of him is entirely unfair. He was certainly a {{Jerkass}} by modern standards, but [[JerkassGods most of the Hellenistic gods were]]. If the Hellenes had a Satan-type, it would have been Ate, the personification of ruin, folly, and destruction who causes... well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin ruin, folly and destruction]] ForTheEvulz. Of course, this would serve as an inversion for those who believe he is evil... To clarify, unlike Satan who was cast into Hell for defying {{God}}, Hades pretty much got the job of ruling the afterlife because his older younger brothers screwed him over. Zeus claimed the Earth and the Heavens, Poseidon the Sea, meaning the Underworld was all that was left for Hades. He didn't like the job, but he wasn't overly cruel about it (at least, not in comparison to some of the other gods). And since his realm included the entire afterlife, including the Gardens of Elysium, he was essentially the ruler of both Heaven and Hell.
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* ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'' is this in [[WesternAnimation/Shrek1 the first]] [[WesternAnimation/Shrek2 two movies]], because he's [[FantasticRacism an ogre]] and most people are fully prepared to assume the worst of ogres. Not to forget that Shrek hand-made and put up posters warning people to beware of him because he derives pleasure from humans screaming then running away in fear of him. By ''WesternAnimation/ShrekTheThird'' onwards, this has changed, and the public not only accepts him but views him as a local hero and role model. ''Forever After'' shows that Shrek misses getting to scare humans which he hasn't been able to do in a long time, leading to his signing a contract for a wish that triggered the plot of the fourth movie.

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* ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'' is this in [[WesternAnimation/Shrek1 the first]] [[WesternAnimation/Shrek2 two movies]], because he's [[FantasticRacism an ogre]] and most people are fully prepared to assume the worst of ogres. Not to forget that Shrek hand-made and put up posters warning people to beware of him because he derives pleasure from humans screaming then running away in fear of him. By ''WesternAnimation/ShrekTheThird'' onwards, this has changed, and the public not only accepts him but views him as a local hero and role model. ''Forever After'' ''[[WesternAnimation/ShrekForeverAfter Forever After]]'' shows that Shrek misses getting to scare humans which he hasn't been able to do in a long time, leading to his signing a contract for a wish that triggered the plot of the fourth movie.
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* Franchise/{{Shrek}} is this in [[WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}} the first]] [[WesternAnimation/Shrek2 two movies]], because he's [[FantasticRacism an ogre]] and most people are fully prepared to assume the worst of ogres. Not to forget that Shrek hand-made and put up posters warning people to beware of him because he derives pleasure from humans screaming then running away in fear of him. By ''WesternAnimation/ShrekTheThird'' onwards, this has changed, and the public not only accepts him but views him as a local hero and role model. ''Forever After'' shows that Shrek misses getting to scare humans which he hasn't been able to do in a long time, leading to his signing a contract for a wish that triggered the plot of the fourth movie.

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* Franchise/{{Shrek}} ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'' is this in [[WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}} [[WesternAnimation/Shrek1 the first]] [[WesternAnimation/Shrek2 two movies]], because he's [[FantasticRacism an ogre]] and most people are fully prepared to assume the worst of ogres. Not to forget that Shrek hand-made and put up posters warning people to beware of him because he derives pleasure from humans screaming then running away in fear of him. By ''WesternAnimation/ShrekTheThird'' onwards, this has changed, and the public not only accepts him but views him as a local hero and role model. ''Forever After'' shows that Shrek misses getting to scare humans which he hasn't been able to do in a long time, leading to his signing a contract for a wish that triggered the plot of the fourth movie.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer4000'': The Lamenters Chapter of Space Marines are often considered the most unquestioningly noble, heroic, and compassionate of all Chapters (most of whom range from AntiHero to straight VillainProtagonist). However, they're also considered "cursed" by most of their cousin Marines and the Imperium at large, due to being a product of the infamous "Cursed 13th" founding. A large number of Chapters formed in this founding were known to either fall to Chaos, or possess horrific mutations that forced them to be purged, though the Lamenters are neither. Worse still, the Lamenters had the ill luck to be on the wrong side of the Badab War, a civil war that they joined for legitimate and noble reasons (defiance of the [[ObstructiveBeauracrat High Lords of Terra]]), in which one of their ally chapters ''also'' fell to Chaos. These two associations have led to one of the most heroic Chapters being regarded as borderline-heretics and little better than traitors.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', all supers have Bad Publicity after they're sued for causing damage while saving lives. The result is that using superpowers becomes illegal and they all have to go into the "[[SuperRegistrationAct Superhero Protection Program]]." By the end of the movie, this all ends after Mr. Incredible, his family, and Frozone save everyone from the Omnidroid and Syndrome.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles1'', all supers have Bad Publicity after they're sued for causing damage while saving lives. The result is that using superpowers becomes illegal and they all have to go into the "[[SuperRegistrationAct Superhero Protection Program]]." By the end of the movie, this all ends after Mr. Incredible, his family, and Frozone save everyone from the Omnidroid and Syndrome.
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* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': PlayedForLaughs in the Cell Games arc where some poorly thought out comments make the public think Goku is an abusive husband and father, causing the public to hate him.
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** Saber, [[spoiler:AKA Arturia Pendragon (a [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Myth/KingArthur)]], [[SweetPollyOliver disguised herself as a boy]], [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask suppressed all emotion, and used very pragmatic methods in order to properly rule her country]]. Needless to say, her apparent coldness caused her subjects to resent her:

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** Saber, [[spoiler:AKA Arturia Pendragon (a [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Myth/KingArthur)]], [[SweetPollyOliver disguised herself as a boy]], [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask [[ToughLeaderFacade suppressed all emotion, and used very pragmatic methods in order to properly rule her country]]. Needless to say, her apparent coldness caused her subjects to resent her:
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** He was a bad guy in the past.

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** [[ReformedButRejected He was a bad guy in the past.past]].
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** Popular opinion on Agatha herself is quite polarized. Many people see her as the rightful successor to her father's heroism—but there's also no shortage of people who believe she is every bit the monster her ancestors were. Klaus himself tries very hard to contain her before he can be assured of her character[[spoiler:—but he becomes convinced that Agatha is [[VillainousLineage a more typical Heterodyne]] during an unfortunate episode where Agatha's [[EvilMatriarch mother]] possesses her body.]] [[spoiler:Even after he learns about the possession, and even after Agatha's mind is rid of her mother's influence, he still considers the idea of a free, independent Heterodyne to be too big a threat to the peace of Europa to condone.]]

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** Popular opinion on Agatha herself is quite polarized. Many people see her as the rightful successor to her father's heroism—but there's also no shortage of people who believe she is every bit the monster her ancestors were. Klaus himself tries very hard to contain her before he can be assured of her character[[spoiler:—but he becomes convinced that Agatha is [[VillainousLineage a more typical Heterodyne]] during an unfortunate episode where Agatha's [[EvilMatriarch mother]] possesses her body.]] [[spoiler:Even after he learns about the possession, and even after Agatha's mind is rid of her mother's influence, he still considers the idea of a free, independent Heterodyne to be too big a threat to the peace of Europa to condone.]]condone]]. Even in an arc set in the future, many see her as a villain due to her willingness to rehabilitate monsters instead of just putting them down.
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Updating Ironwood's entry. Also pretty sure the version that was on this page ended with a justifying edit.


** General Ironwood is trying to save the world, but his stubborn belief that overwhelming military force is the go-to solution has led him to turn the Kingdom of Atlas into a police state, closing the borders and damaging his nation's foreign policy and local economy. Since they have no idea what Ironwood is fighting against, the people of Atlas see Ironwood as a delusional, paranoid dictator. Ironwood is aware of the negative sentiment, but refuses to budge on his stance. [[spoiler:At the end of Volume 7, his response to the news that Salem's about to attack Atlas in person, leads him to take a series of measures so extreme that the heroes finally oppose him fully. The volume ends with some of the heroes on the run from him, some arrested, and him transforming into an AntiVillain when he shoots his MoralityPet with [[KickTheMoralityPet intent to kill]].]] In the end, his status as this meant that he eventually lost the "hero" part of this trope because he'd grown so [[CantTakeCriticism used to ignoring criticism]] that he [[DeconstructedTrope couldn't understand when that criticism was warranted]].

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** General James Ironwood is desperately trying to save the world, but protect Atlas and Mantle from attack by Salem while trying to plan a counter-move against her. However, his stubborn belief that overwhelming method of protection involves using his military force is to place strict controls on the go-to solution has led him Mantle population's ability to turn the Kingdom of Atlas into a police state, closing the borders function and damaging his nation's foreign policy and local economy. Since they have no idea what Ironwood is fighting against, to divert essential construction supplies away from Mantle's border protections. Thus, the people of Atlas see Ironwood Mantle regard him as no better than a delusional, paranoid dictator. dictator who is harming both their livelihoods and their city defenses. Ironwood is aware of the negative sentiment, but refuses dismisses it as an unfortunate necessity to budge on his stance. [[spoiler:At achieve the end of Volume 7, his response to the news greater good. [[spoiler:After becoming a full on villain however he rants that Salem's about everyone is ungrateful to attack Atlas in person, leads him to take a series of measures so extreme for all he has done and sacrificed for Remnant indicating that the heroes finally oppose him fully. The volume ends with some of the heroes on the run from him, some arrested, and him transforming into an AntiVillain when he shoots his MoralityPet with [[KickTheMoralityPet intent to kill]].]] In the end, his status as this meant that angered him more then he eventually lost the "hero" part of this trope because he'd grown so [[CantTakeCriticism used to ignoring criticism]] that he [[DeconstructedTrope couldn't understand when that criticism was warranted]]. initially let on.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'': After Zira sets up her ambush, and Simba banishes him, every animal in the Pride Lands tries to attack Kovu to ensure he leaves their home.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'': After ** In [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride the sequel]], after Zira sets up her ambush, and Simba banishes him, every animal in the Pride Lands tries to attack Kovu to ensure he leaves their home.
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* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'':

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As it is highly subjective to call someone a hero in real life, Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease [[noreallife]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/Ratatouille'': Despite his intelligence and culinary skill, Rémy is still a rat and is treated as vermin whenever humans see him. The only people who treat him as a chef are Linguini and (eventually) Colette and Ego.

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* ''WesternAnimation/Ratatouille'': ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'': Despite his intelligence and culinary skill, Rémy is still a rat and is treated as vermin whenever humans see him. The only people who treat him as a chef are Linguini and (eventually) Colette and Ego.
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* ''WesternAnimation/Ratatouille'': Despite his intelligence and culinary skill, Rémy is still a rat and is treated as vermin whenever humans see him. The only people who treat him as a chef are Linguini and (eventually) Colette and Ego.
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** Popular opinion on Agatha herself is quite polarized. Many people see her as the rightful successor to her father's heroism—but there's also no shortage of people who believe she is every bit the monster her ancestors were. Klaus himself tries very hard to contain her before he can be assured of her character[[spoiler:—but he becomes convinced that Agatha is [[VillainousLineage a more typical Heterodyne]] during an unfortunate episode where Agatha's [[EvilMatriarch mother]] possesses her body. Even after he learns about the possession, and even after Agatha's mind is rid of her mother's influence, he still ]]

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** Popular opinion on Agatha herself is quite polarized. Many people see her as the rightful successor to her father's heroism—but there's also no shortage of people who believe she is every bit the monster her ancestors were. Klaus himself tries very hard to contain her before he can be assured of her character[[spoiler:—but he becomes convinced that Agatha is [[VillainousLineage a more typical Heterodyne]] during an unfortunate episode where Agatha's [[EvilMatriarch mother]] possesses her body. Even ]] [[spoiler:Even after he learns about the possession, and even after Agatha's mind is rid of her mother's influence, he still considers the idea of a free, independent Heterodyne to be too big a threat to the peace of Europa to condone.]]
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** World opinion on Agatha herself is quite polarized. Many people see her as the rightful successor to her father's heroism. But there is also no shortage of people that believe she is every bit the monster her ancestors were, and Klaus tries very hard to kill or contain her due to being one of them.

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** World Popular opinion on Agatha herself is quite polarized. Many people see her as the rightful successor to her father's heroism. But there is heroism—but there's also no shortage of people that who believe she is every bit the monster her ancestors were, and were. Klaus himself tries very hard to kill or contain her due to being one before he can be assured of them.her character[[spoiler:—but he becomes convinced that Agatha is [[VillainousLineage a more typical Heterodyne]] during an unfortunate episode where Agatha's [[EvilMatriarch mother]] possesses her body. Even after he learns about the possession, and even after Agatha's mind is rid of her mother's influence, he still ]]
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** The Wulfenbachs suffer a lot from this. OK, they are the despot of Europa and his heir, but Klaus is often accused of being the Other, betraying the Heterodynes, etc. He could probably use a good propaganda service which would only have to use some positive facts. Gil is also accused of having destroyed Dr. Beetle's lab for no reason (well, actually, he just send a bomb back to the thrower, saving not only his life but an innocent assistant as well). [[spoiler:After the Wulfenbachs' fall during the TimeSkip, Europa is in chaos again and quite a few people now think of their rule as a "golden age".]]

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** The Wulfenbachs suffer a lot from this. OK, Yes, they are the despot of Europa and his heir, but Klaus is often accused of being the Other, betraying the Heterodynes, etc. He could probably use a good propaganda service which would only have to use some positive facts. highlight the good he really ''is'' doing for the common people. Gil is also accused of having destroyed destroying Dr. Beetle's lab for no reason (well, actually, he just send deflected a bomb back to the thrower, saving not only his own life but that of an innocent lab assistant as well). [[spoiler:After the Wulfenbachs' fall power breaks during the TimeSkip, Europa is in chaos again and quite a few people now people—even their enemies of a mere two years ago—now think of back on their rule as a "golden age".]]
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** General Ironwood is trying to save the world, but his stubborn belief that overwhelming military force is the go-to solution has led him to turn the Kingdom of Atlas into a police state, closing the borders and damaging his nation's foreign policy and local economy. Since they have no idea what Ironwood is fighting against, the people of Atlas see Ironwood as a delusional, paranoid dictator. Ironwood is aware of the negative sentiment, but refuses to budge on his stance. [[spoiler:At the end of Volume 7, his response to the news that Salem's about to attack Atlas in person, leads him to take a series of measures so extreme that the heroes finally oppose him fully. The volume ends with some of the heroes on the run from him, some arrested, and him transforming into a HeroAntagonist when he shoots his MoralityPet with [[KickTheMoralityPet intent to kill]].]]

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** General Ironwood is trying to save the world, but his stubborn belief that overwhelming military force is the go-to solution has led him to turn the Kingdom of Atlas into a police state, closing the borders and damaging his nation's foreign policy and local economy. Since they have no idea what Ironwood is fighting against, the people of Atlas see Ironwood as a delusional, paranoid dictator. Ironwood is aware of the negative sentiment, but refuses to budge on his stance. [[spoiler:At the end of Volume 7, his response to the news that Salem's about to attack Atlas in person, leads him to take a series of measures so extreme that the heroes finally oppose him fully. The volume ends with some of the heroes on the run from him, some arrested, and him transforming into a HeroAntagonist an AntiVillain when he shoots his MoralityPet with [[KickTheMoralityPet intent to kill]].]]]] In the end, his status as this meant that he eventually lost the "hero" part of this trope because he'd grown so [[CantTakeCriticism used to ignoring criticism]] that he [[DeconstructedTrope couldn't understand when that criticism was warranted]].
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* ''Webcomic/TheLastAdventure'': Discord becomes that after everypony learned that it was his fault that Tirek, Queen Chrysalis and Cozy Glow put Equestria in danger ( he never was popular, but now even the Cutie Mark Cruzaders are mad with him). The situation is so dire that he decides to exile in the Everfree Forest, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy so Fluttershy won't be affected for associating with him and marry someone better]]. Instead, she goes along with her friends to look for him, unaware there is a new menace lurking around.
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** People like [[BullyingADragon pissing off]] someone above their SuperWeight category.

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** [[BadPowersGoodPeople His powers are harmful/"bad" by nature]].



** [[BadPowersGoodPeople His powers are harmful/"bad" by nature]].

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** [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero He's an unapologetic bigot.]]



** [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero He's an unapologetic bigot.]]

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