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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mudhoney's punky, bluesy garage rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, Hole's violent, abrasive, grindcore-tinged noise rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style, and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mudhoney's punky, bluesy [[Music/TheStooges Stooges-inspired]] garage rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, Hole's violent, abrasive, grindcore-tinged noise rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style, and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.



Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice in Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial PostGrunge bands like Bush, Music/FooFighters, Music/{{Silverchair}} and Music/MatchboxTwenty, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{Britpop}}, NuMetal, PopPunk, Music/TheSpiceGirls, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Alice in Chains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}.

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Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice in Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more mainstream alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial PostGrunge bands like Bush, Music/FooFighters, Music/{{Silverchair}} and Music/MatchboxTwenty, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{Britpop}}, NuMetal, PopPunk, Music/TheSpiceGirls, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Alice in Chains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}.



* Music/AliceInChains (often considered the [[AlternativeMetal heaviest of the lot]]; there was also some HairMetal present on the demos and ''Facelift'')

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* Music/{{Melvins}} (TropeMaker, along with Green River. Also associated with {{Doom Metal}}. Kurt Cobain was a fan, and Dale Crover occasionally filled in on drums for Nirvana.)

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* Music/{{Melvins}} (TropeMaker, along with Green River. Also associated with {{Doom Metal}}.Metal}}, particularly Sludge Metal. Kurt Cobain was a fan, and Dale Crover occasionally filled in on drums for Nirvana.)



* Music/{{Radiohead}} (Only during the ''Pablo Honey'' era)

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* Music/{{Radiohead}} (Only during the ''Pablo Honey'' era)era, which was more of a mixture of this and straightforward AlternativeRock)



* Music/{{Soundgarden}} (Much like Music/AliceInChains, generally considered heavy enough to be AlternativeMetal, and also sometimes thought of as an UrExample of [[DoomMetal Stoner Metal]] as well)

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* ''Tad'' (Probably the heaviest example aside from Alice in Chains and Soundgarden)

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* Music/TheStooges (purely as a very early UrExample)
* ''Tad'' (Probably the heaviest example aside from Alice in Chains Chains, Soundgarden, and Soundgarden)The Melvins)
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Although Grunge's time is over, the genre is still viewed as a landmark one due to its honesty and creative musicianship (especially compared to what [[{{PostGrunge}} it mutated into]]), and it still has a fanbase in certain corners, and the teens of the nineties are starting to look back upon it with nostalgia. Some of the bands have also had a significant influence on DoomMetal subgenres such as Stoner Metal and Sludge, which could be seen as a SpiritualSuccessor of sorts.

Not to be confused with PostGrunge, which, beyond being based around downtuned guitar, often has very little in common.

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Although Grunge's time is over, the genre is still viewed as a landmark one due to its honesty and creative musicianship (especially compared to what [[{{PostGrunge}} it mutated into]]), and it still has a fanbase in certain corners, and the teens of the nineties are starting to look back upon it with nostalgia. Some of the bands have also had a significant influence on DoomMetal subgenres such as Stoner Metal and Sludge, which could be seen as a SpiritualSuccessor of sorts.

sorts. Conversely, Grunge, Sludge, and Stoner Metal can also be considered "sister genres" as all three formed from the same sonic root with quite a bit of overlap in the bands themselves ('70s heavy/garage rock filtered through doom-influenced hardcore punk rock) but developed along tertiary characteristics that distinguished them: Grunge took up AlternativeRock, Stoner Metal added more PsychedelicRock, and Sludge doubled down on DoomMetal. For this reason, while the latter two are sonically very similar to Grunge, they are not quite the same.

Not to be confused with PostGrunge, which, beyond being based around downtuned guitar, often has very little in common. Also not to be confused with [[DoomMetal Sludge]], which actually has quite a bit in common, but is far heavier, more nihilistic, and abrasive.
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* Music/FooFighters (mostly only their self-titled debut)

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* Music/ThePixies [[note]]They are more associated with {{Alternative Rock}}, but they and Green River were probably the first bands to play this style, as well as being a huge influence on the other bands; Cobain often said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" sounded like a Pixies ripoff, specifically their song "Debaser"[[/note]]

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* Music/ThePixies [[note]]They are Music/{{Pixies}} [[note]]Though more associated with {{Alternative Rock}}, but they and Green River were probably the first bands to play this style, as well as being a huge influence on the other bands; Cobain often said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" sounded like a Pixies ripoff, specifically their song "Debaser"[[/note]]
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* King's X (particularly during the ''Dogman'' era, typically a hard rock/progressive metal act.)

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* Music/{{Sloan}} (During their first couple of years including their debut album ''Smeared'' though they began moving away from it afterwards)
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Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice in Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial PostGrunge bands like Bush, Music/FooFighters, Music/{{Silverchair}} and Music/MatchboxTwenty, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{Britpop}}, NuMetal, PopPunk, Music/TheSpiceGirls, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Alice in Chains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]

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Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice in Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial PostGrunge bands like Bush, Music/FooFighters, Music/{{Silverchair}} and Music/MatchboxTwenty, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{Britpop}}, NuMetal, PopPunk, Music/TheSpiceGirls, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Alice in Chains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]
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Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against big budget HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

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Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is was sometimes referred to as called "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- the early days. The earliest examples of grunge music includes Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, River, neither of which was the philosophy of the music. achieved any mainstream success. As a backlash against big budget HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for featured a stripped down and low-key aesthetic lacking in the theatrics or their appearance, resulting and bombast of the prevailing trends. Playing in that rainy Seattle, many struggling early grunge rockers wore the only warm clothing they could afford: thick flannel shirts, which became a trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; of the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).
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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mudhoney's punky, bluesy garage rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, Hole's violent, abrasive, grindcore-tinged noise rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody with a guitar and two songs. Heroin use and a few overdoses caused a moral panic in the media. What was this "something", you may ask?

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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mudhoney's punky, bluesy garage rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, Hole's violent, abrasive, grindcore-tinged noise rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style style, and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody thing.” Anybody with a guitar and two songs. Heroin use and a few overdoses caused a moral panic in the media. What songs got signed. Flannel became cool. So what was this "something", you may ask?
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Nirvana, a UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} (by way of Aberdeen and Olympia) Grunge band fronted by Kurt Cobain, unexpectedly made it big [[TheNineties in 1991]] with their album ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', containing the famed hit single "Smells Like Teen Spirit", which, in typical "most famous song" fashion, was [[BlackSheepHit shunned by Cobain]]. The album drove away from the dirgy sludgy material that had defined the 'grunge' label and the bands earlier material to that point and instead experimented with less distortion and catchy pop hooks, a feature that when combined with Cobain's anguished voice and rugged good looks launched them into superstardom. With Nirvana's success, other bands from Seattle, as well as those that were similar in tone, such as Music/PearlJam, Music/{{Soundgarden}} and Music/AliceInChains, also made it pretty big, and less-popular groups (namely Music/{{Mudhoney}}, Music/{{Melvins}}, Screaming Trees, and ''Tad'') also had their moments in the mainstream spotlight. Against their will. As for punk before it, being big and famous went against Grunge's philosophy, and many of the bands tried to avoid fame. Cobain himself was pretty depressed over this, as well as many other things, including his heroin addiction. This whole depression thing culminated in Cobain's shotgun suicide in 1994 (although some {{conspiracy theorist}}s still maintain that he was murdered).

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Nirvana, a UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} (by way of Aberdeen and Olympia) Grunge band fronted by Kurt Cobain, unexpectedly made it big [[TheNineties in 1991]] with their album ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', containing the famed hit single "Smells Like Teen Spirit", Spirit," which, in typical "most famous song" fashion, was [[BlackSheepHit [[MagnumOpusDissonance shunned by Cobain]]. The album drove away from the dirgy sludgy material that had defined the 'grunge' "grunge" label and the bands earlier material to that point and instead experimented with less distortion and catchy pop hooks, a feature that when combined with Cobain's anguished voice and rugged good looks launched them into superstardom. With Nirvana's success, other bands from Seattle, as well as those that were similar in tone, such as Music/PearlJam, Music/{{Soundgarden}} and Music/AliceInChains, also made it pretty big, and less-popular groups (namely Music/{{Mudhoney}}, Music/{{Melvins}}, Screaming Trees, and ''Tad'') also had their moments in the mainstream spotlight. Against their will. As for punk before it, being big and famous went against Grunge's philosophy, and many of the bands tried to avoid fame. Cobain himself was pretty depressed over this, as well as many other things, including his heroin addiction. This whole depression thing culminated in Cobain's shotgun suicide in 1994 (although some {{conspiracy theorist}}s still maintain that he was murdered).



The "signature look" of Grunge, much to the [[UnkemptBeauty distress of fashion designers]] everywhere, was loose-fitting jeans and a t-shirt with an open flannel shirt over it. This had been a "burnout" look among poorer teens for years -- the members of grunge bands only wearing such clothes because [[StarvingArtist it was literally the only warm clothing they could afford when they were struggling]] -- [[ItsPopularNowItSucks and was now promoted to "cool" kids]].
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* KEN mode (''Success'', mixed with post-hardcore; one of the few genuine revivalists)

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Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice In Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial {{PostGrunge}} bands like {{Bush}}, {{Foo Fighters}}, {{Silverchair}} and {{Matchbox Twenty}}, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{britpop}}, {{nu metal}}, {{pop punk}}, {{The Spice Girls}}, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]

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Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice In in Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial {{PostGrunge}} PostGrunge bands like {{Bush}}, {{Foo Fighters}}, {{Silverchair}} Bush, Music/FooFighters, Music/{{Silverchair}} and {{Matchbox Twenty}}, Music/MatchboxTwenty, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{britpop}}, {{nu metal}}, {{pop punk}}, {{The Spice Girls}}, {{Britpop}}, NuMetal, PopPunk, Music/TheSpiceGirls, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, Alice in Chains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]



Not to be confused with {{PostGrunge}}, which, beyond being based around downtuned guitar, often has very little in common.

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Not to be confused with {{PostGrunge}}, PostGrunge, which, beyond being based around downtuned guitar, often has very little in common.
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The "signature look" of Grunge, much to the [[UnkemptBeauty distress of fashion designers]] everywhere, was loose-fitting jeans and a t-shirt with an open flannel shirt over it. This had been a "burnout" look among poorer teens for years -- the members of grunge bands only wearing such clothes because it was literally the only warm clothing they could afford when they were struggling -- [[ItsPopularNowItSucks and was now promoted to "cool" kids]].

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The "signature look" of Grunge, much to the [[UnkemptBeauty distress of fashion designers]] everywhere, was loose-fitting jeans and a t-shirt with an open flannel shirt over it. This had been a "burnout" look among poorer teens for years -- the members of grunge bands only wearing such clothes because [[StarvingArtist it was literally the only warm clothing they could afford when they were struggling struggling]] -- [[ItsPopularNowItSucks and was now promoted to "cool" kids]].
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Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice In Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial {{PostGrunge}} bands like {{Bush}}, {{Foo Fighters}}, {{Silverchair}} and {{Matchbox 20}}, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{britpop}}, {{nu metal}}, {{pop punk}}, {{The Spice Girls}}, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]

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Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice In Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and with the rise of commercial {{PostGrunge}} bands like {{Bush}}, {{Foo Fighters}}, {{Silverchair}} and {{Matchbox 20}}, Twenty}}, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{britpop}}, {{nu metal}}, {{pop punk}}, {{The Spice Girls}}, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and another blow was dealt nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]
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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mudhoney's punky, bluesy garage rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, Hole's violent, abrasive, grindcore-tinged noise rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.
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* Music/King's X (particularly during the ''Dogman'' era, typically a hard rock/progressive metal act.)

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The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between.

However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

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The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing drug addiction (particularly heroin), depression, suicide, and heroin.poverty, suicide. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between.

However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, traditional doom metal, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, glam, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.



Nirvana, a UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} (by way of Aberdeen and Olympia) Grunge band fronted by Kurt Cobain, unexpectedly made it big [[TheNineties in 1991]] with their album ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', containing the famed hit single "Smells Like Teen Spirit", which, in typical "most famous song" fashion, was [[BlackSheepHit shunned by Cobain]]. With Nirvana's success, other grunge bands, such as Music/PearlJam, Music/{{Soundgarden}} and Music/AliceInChains, also made it pretty big, and less-popular groups (namely Music/{{Mudhoney}}, Music/{{Melvins}}, Screaming Trees, and ''Tad'') also had their moments in the mainstream spotlight. Against their will. As for punk before it, being big and famous went against Grunge's philosophy, and many of the bands tried to avoid fame. Cobain himself was pretty depressed over this, as well as many other things, including his heroin addiction. This whole depression thing culminated in Cobain's shotgun suicide in 1994 (although some {{conspiracy theorist}}s still maintain that he was murdered).

Then Nirvana disbanded, Soundgarden released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and Grunge began to fade in the shadow of Music/BritneySpears and a new generation of Millennial techno-geeks inspired by the {{Britpop}} revolution which was historically [[ArchNemesis hostile to Grunge]]. Another blow was dealt to Grunge nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]

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Nirvana, a UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} (by way of Aberdeen and Olympia) Grunge band fronted by Kurt Cobain, unexpectedly made it big [[TheNineties in 1991]] with their album ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', containing the famed hit single "Smells Like Teen Spirit", which, in typical "most famous song" fashion, was [[BlackSheepHit shunned by Cobain]]. The album drove away from the dirgy sludgy material that had defined the 'grunge' label and the bands earlier material to that point and instead experimented with less distortion and catchy pop hooks, a feature that when combined with Cobain's anguished voice and rugged good looks launched them into superstardom. With Nirvana's success, other grunge bands, bands from Seattle, as well as those that were similar in tone, such as Music/PearlJam, Music/{{Soundgarden}} and Music/AliceInChains, also made it pretty big, and less-popular groups (namely Music/{{Mudhoney}}, Music/{{Melvins}}, Screaming Trees, and ''Tad'') also had their moments in the mainstream spotlight. Against their will. As for punk before it, being big and famous went against Grunge's philosophy, and many of the bands tried to avoid fame. Cobain himself was pretty depressed over this, as well as many other things, including his heroin addiction. This whole depression thing culminated in Cobain's shotgun suicide in 1994 (although some {{conspiracy theorist}}s still maintain that he was murdered).

Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice In Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and Grunge began with the rise of commercial {{PostGrunge}} bands like {{Bush}}, {{Foo Fighters}}, {{Silverchair}} and {{Matchbox 20}}, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{britpop}}, {{nu metal}}, {{pop punk}}, {{The Spice Girls}}, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the shadow of Music/BritneySpears mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and a new generation of Millennial techno-geeks inspired by the {{Britpop}} revolution which was historically [[ArchNemesis hostile to Grunge]]. Another another blow was dealt to Grunge nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]


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Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between. However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody with a guitar. Heroin use caused a moral panic in the media. What was this "something", you may ask?

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Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against big budget HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between.

However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody with a guitar. guitar and two songs. Heroin use and a few overdoses caused a moral panic in the media. What was this "something", you may ask?
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"Grunge" is a form of AlternativeRock. A very popular one, at that. So popular that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.

Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]] and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, influencing lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between. However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. What was this "something", you may ask?

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"Grunge" is a form of AlternativeRock.Alternative Rock. A very popular one, at that. So popular in the early 1990s that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche niche/underground status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.

Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]] and metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, influencing and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between. However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody with a guitar. Heroin use caused a moral panic in the media. What was this "something", you may ask?
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'''Grunge''' is a form of AlternativeRock. A very popular one, at that. So popular that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.

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'''Grunge''' "Grunge" is a form of AlternativeRock. A very popular one, at that. So popular that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.



* Music/{{Silverchair}} (Especially their debut ''Frogstomp'', released when the band was in their mid-teenage years at the height of TheNineties. They later moved on to {{Post-Grunge}} and later to more experimental material.)

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* Music/{{Silverchair}} (Especially their debut ''Frogstomp'', released when the band was in their mid-teenage years at the height of TheNineties. They later moved on to {{Post-Grunge}} PostGrunge and later to more experimental material.)



* Music/StoneTemplePilots (Early work. Later work is more experimental or could be considered {{Post-Grunge}})

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* Music/GreenRiver (TropeMaker) (Its members went on to form Mudhoney and Mother Love Bone / PearlJam)

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* Music/MotherLoveBone (Cut short by the lead singer's [[AuthorExistenceFailure sudden death from heroin overdose]], two of its members went on to form PearlJam. Like Alice in Chains, they were also associated with HairMetal.)

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* Music/MotherLoveBone (Cut short by the lead singer's [[AuthorExistenceFailure sudden death from heroin overdose]], two of its members went on to form PearlJam.Music/PearlJam. Like Alice in Chains, they were also associated with HairMetal.)

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* Music/{{Tool}} (mostly Prog Metal, although some of their earlier works incorporate Grunge influences)



* Music/{{Tool}} (mostly Prog Metal, although some of their earlier works incorporate some Grunge influences)

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