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* TruthInTelevision: It's not uncommon for kids who were wild and rebellious to become strict parents after having children and fabricate how well behaved they were as kids. This is because no parent is going to brag about how wild and crazy they were if they're trying to instill discipline in their children. Alternatively, they will try and justify their behavior by differentiating it from their children's behavior with simple but flawed excuses like "It/That/This was different."
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* Gendo Ikari from ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'' was something of a delinquent in college before Fuyutski was more or less forced to take him on as a kind of apprentice. It's subverted, in that he is even "worse" then he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually, and Fuyutski had a role reversal in that he's now his Second in Command instead of being his teacher.
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* Gendo Ikari from ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'' was something of a delinquent in college before Fuyutski was more or less forced to take him on as a kind of apprentice. It's subverted, in that he is even "worse" then than he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually, and Fuyutski had a role reversal in that he's now his Second in Command instead of being his teacher.
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When the older character is a mentor figure to the protagonist, TheReveal that they fit this trop can sometimes be part of the process of turning them into a CoolOldGuy. It's also related to MysteriousPast, though there doesn't have to be any mystery involved. Many cases of IUsedToBeKindOfCoolOnce can be attributed to this trope.
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When the older character is a mentor figure to the protagonist, TheReveal that they fit this trop trope can sometimes be part of the process of turning them into a CoolOldGuy. It's also related to MysteriousPast, though there doesn't have to be any mystery involved. Many cases of IUsedToBeKindOfCoolOnce can be attributed to this trope.
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* Ash's mom from ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' (at least according to [[TheMusical the American stage show]]).
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* Ash's mom from ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ''[[{{Anime/Ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Pokémon]]'' (at least according to [[TheMusical the American stage show]]).
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[[OldRetainer Carson von Mekkhan]] and [[IronChef Old Man Death]] from ''GirlGenius'' both "rode with the Jägers" i.e. acted as auxiliaries to Europe's [[EvilOverlord evilest overlord's]] BadassArmy in their youths. Carson is currently retired from his position as senechal to said overlord's family and lives with his granddaughter, and Old Man Death runs a deli.
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[[OldRetainer Carson von Mekkhan]] and [[IronChef Old Man Death]] from ''GirlGenius'' both "rode with the Jägers" i.e. acted as auxiliaries to Europe's [[EvilOverlord evilest overlord's]] BadassArmy in their youths. Carson is currently retired from his position as senechal to said overlord's family and lives with his granddaughter, and Old Man Death runs a deli.
[[OldRetainer Carson von Mekkhan]] and [[IronChef Old Man Death]] from ''GirlGenius'' both "rode with the Jägers" i.e. acted as auxiliaries to Europe's [[EvilOverlord evilest overlord's]] BadassArmy in their youths. Carson is currently retired from his position as senechal to said overlord's family and lives with his granddaughter, and Old Man Death runs a deli.
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* Ash's mom from ''{{Pokemon}}'' (at least according to [[TheMusical the American stage show]]).
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* Gendo Ikari from ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'' was something of a delinquent in college before Fuyutski was more or less forced to take him on as a kind of apprentice.
** Subverted, in that he is even "worse" then he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually, and Fuyutski had a role reversal in that he's now his Second in Command instead of being his teacher.
** Subverted, in that he is even "worse" then he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually, and Fuyutski had a role reversal in that he's now his Second in Command instead of being his teacher.
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* Gendo Ikari from ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'' was something of a delinquent in college before Fuyutski was more or less forced to take him on as a kind of apprentice.
** Subverted,apprentice. It's subverted, in that he is even "worse" then he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually, and Fuyutski had a role reversal in that he's now his Second in Command instead of being his teacher.
** Subverted,
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** Subverted, in that he is even "worse" then he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually...
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** Subverted, in that he is even "worse" then he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually...actually, and Fuyutski had a role reversal in that he's now his Second in Command instead of being his teacher.
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** Subverted, in that he is even "worse" then he was before. Horrifically worse, to be honest actually...
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* Principal Skinner aka Armin Tamzarian, of ''TheSimpsons'', who actually assumed somebody else's identity as part of getting over his rebellion. Accidentally. He honestly intended to tell Mrs. Skinner that [[spoiler: her real son was believed to be dead - but she thought he was her son when he showed up at her door, and he just didn't have the heart to tell her otherwise.]]
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* Principal Skinner aka Armin Tamzarian, of ''TheSimpsons'', who actually assumed somebody else's identity as part of getting over his rebellion. Accidentally. He honestly intended to tell Mrs. Skinner that [[spoiler: her real son was believed to be dead - but she thought he was her son when he showed up at her door, and he just didn't have the heart to tell her otherwise.]]]] Fans ''hated'' this episode due to how crazily most of the cast was out of character in order to make the plotline work, but interestingly, the writers never retconned it in response--Lisa actually uses the plot as a threat against him in an episode years later.
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Sweden's not the viking.
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* England from ''AxisPowersHetalia'' was a pirate in his youth, but now considers himself a gentleman (though he still curses like a sailor). Sweden grew out of his viking phase years ago and is a genuinely sweet, rather domestic guy now, but people don't see him as one because of his [[FaceOfAThug scary looks]].
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* England from ''AxisPowersHetalia'' was a pirate in his youth, but now considers himself a gentleman [[ClusterFBomb (though he still curses like a sailor). Sweden grew out of his sailor)]]. Denmark went through a viking phase years ago phrase himself and is a genuinely sweet, rather domestic guy now, but people don't see him as one because of his [[FaceOfAThug scary looks]].
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* Terry [=McGuiness=] from BatmanBeyond. His reputation as such is a big reason as to why [[TheAtoner he puts on the suit]], and often comes back to bite him on the ass.
** Just how bad a delinquent, we're never actually told, but during the movie Return Of The Joker, it's implied that he got out of that life after he seriously hurt someone and was put in Juvie. How badly, we're not given the specifics, but odds are that he and the people he was running with either put someone in the hospital, a wheelchair, or a coma (if he'd actually killed someone, they'd most likely have tried him as an adult).
** Just how bad a delinquent, we're never actually told, but during the movie Return Of The Joker, it's implied that he got out of that life after he seriously hurt someone and was put in Juvie. How badly, we're not given the specifics, but odds are that he and the people he was running with either put someone in the hospital, a wheelchair, or a coma (if he'd actually killed someone, they'd most likely have tried him as an adult).
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* Terry [=McGuiness=] from BatmanBeyond. His reputation as such is a big reason as to why [[TheAtoner he puts on the suit]], and often comes back to bite him on the ass.
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** Just how bad a delinquent, we're never actually told, but during the movie Return Of The Joker, it's implied that he got out of that life after he seriously hurt someone and was put in Juvie. How badly, we're not given the specifics, but odds are that he and the people he was running with either put someone in the hospital, a wheelchair, or a coma (if he'd actually killed someone, they'd most likely have tried him as an adult).
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** The whole Vulcan race is like this to a greater degree than even humans as their cold logic is the result of decades of mental discipline used to master their powerfully emotional natures. And then Spock shows a streak of this in Star Trek 2009 when he gets to (politely) thumb his nose at the Vulcan Science Academy.
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* England from ''AxisPowersHetalia'' was a pirate in his youth, but now considers himself a gentleman (though he still curses like a sailor). Sweden is a subversion: he grew out of his viking phase years ago and is genuinely sweet, rather domestic guy now, but people don't see him as one because of his [[FaceOfAThug scary looks]].
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* England from ''AxisPowersHetalia'' was a pirate in his youth, but now considers himself a gentleman (though he still curses like a sailor). Sweden is a subversion: he grew out of his viking phase years ago and is a genuinely sweet, rather domestic guy now, but people don't see him as one because of his [[FaceOfAThug scary looks]].
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* England from ''AxisPowersHetalia'' was a pirate in his youth, but now considers himself a gentleman (though he still curses like a sailor). Sweden is a subversion: he grew out of his viking phase years ago and is genuinely sweet, rather domestic guy now, but people don't see him as one because of his [[FaceOfAThug scary looks]].
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* Terry McGuiness from BatmanBeyond. His reputation as such is a big reason as to why [[TheAtoner he puts on the suit]], and often comes back to bite him on the ass.
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* The Marauders of {{Harry Potter}} count as an example of this trope, save for Peter Pettigrew, who wasn't much of a rebel as he was a hanger-on. James Potter settled down and got married. Remus Lupin became a teacher, albeit temporarily. And Sirius Black, despite his incarceration and RoaringRampageOfRevenge against Peter... well, two out of four ain't bad.
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* [[TheDresdenFiles Charity Carpenter]] used to be quite the rebel, running away from home when her magic developed and getting involved with a number of bad crowds, ultimately joining a cult whose leader was sacrificing its members to a dragon. When Charity was [[RescueRomancesaved from the dragon]] by [[KnightInShiningArmor Michael Carpenter]], she settled down as a good Christian and {{Housewife}} and gave up her magic. Some of the other skills she picked up during her rebellion (notably fighting, metalworking and vehicle repair) are still used to [[MamaBear aid her husband and defend her family]].
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* [[TheDresdenFiles Charity Carpenter]] used to be quite the rebel, running away from home when her magic developed and getting involved with a number of bad crowds, ultimately joining a cult whose leader was sacrificing its members to a dragon. When Charity was [[RescueRomancesaved [[RescueRomance saved from the dragon]] by [[KnightInShiningArmor Michael Carpenter]], she settled down as a good Christian and {{Housewife}} and gave up her magic. Some of the other skills she picked up during her rebellion (notably fighting, metalworking and vehicle repair) are still used to [[MamaBear aid her husband and defend her family]].
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