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** Also, Shizel in ''TalesOfEternia''. It isn't actually as much of a curb stomp since you CAN fight back (and this troper managed to do so), but after a while the fight abruptly ends anyways.

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** Also, Shizel in ''TalesOfEternia''. It isn't actually as much of a curb stomp since you CAN fight back (and this troper managed to do so), back, but after a while the fight abruptly ends anyways.
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* Darkseid's first appearance on Earth in ''SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'', at the very end of the episode "Father's Day", counts. Superman catches up to the defeated episode villain Kalibak in time to watch Darkseid (who he has no idea who is) [[YouHaveFailedMe disintegrate him]]. When Superman angrily demands he identify himself, Darkseid simply smiles, turns on his [[EyeBeams Omega Beams]], and zaps Superman to the floor. He then says "''That'' is who I am" and leaves.
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* In the first ''[[BaldursGate Baldur's Gate]]'', BigBad Sarevok shows up five minutes into the game and kills your mentor in a cutscene. In ''Baldur's Gate II: Shadows Of Amn'', BigBad Jon Irenicus shows up several times and captures the party at least twice (once offscreen) before you even get the chance to fight him. His [[TheDragon lieutenant]] Bodhi does this as well. Averted in ''Throne of Bhaal'' where the BigBad never shows up before the fight, [[spoiler:or at least not in a way that you can fight her.]]

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* In the first ''[[BaldursGate Baldur's Gate]]'', BigBad Sarevok shows up five minutes into the game and kills your mentor in a cutscene. In ''Baldur's Gate II: Shadows Of Amn'', BigBad Jon Irenicus shows up several times and captures the party at least twice (once offscreen) before you even get the chance to fight him. His [[TheDragon lieutenant]] Bodhi does this as well. Averted in ''Throne of Bhaal'' where the BigBad never shows up before the fight, [[spoiler:or at least not in a way that you can fight her.recognize her as the BigBad.]]
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The villain will, of course, be completely unfazed. They might casually block the hero with smug superiority, let their [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat ultimate attack]] connect and [[NighInvulnerable casually dust themselves off]], and probably give them a good thrashing for ripping their favorite BlackCloak. Oh, and expect said thrashing to be them using maybe [[IAmNotLeftHanded 1/67th of their True Power]]? ([[OneWingedAngel final forms]] [[OfferVoidInNebraska not included]]). The villain may well take them to within an inch of dying, or less brutally hold the equivalent of a sword at their throat... and [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim stop]] to [[EvilGloating gloat]] before leaving them broken and humiliated.

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The villain will, of course, be completely unfazed. They might casually block the hero with smug superiority, let their [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat ultimate attack]] connect and [[NighInvulnerable casually dust themselves off]], and probably give them a good thrashing for ripping their favorite BlackCloak. Oh, and expect said thrashing to be them using maybe [[IAmNotLeftHanded 1/67th of their True Power]]? ([[OneWingedAngel final forms]] [[OfferVoidInNebraska not included]]). The villain may well take them to within an inch of dying, or less brutally hold the equivalent of a sword at their throat... and [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim [[BondVillainStupidity stop]] to [[EvilGloating gloat]] before [[NotWorthKilling leaving them broken and humiliated.humiliated]].



* In ''Baldur's Gate II: Shadows Of Amn'', Jon Irenicus manages to effortlessly capture the party, twice, killing some of them in the process, before you even get the chance to fight him.

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* In the first ''[[BaldursGate Baldur's Gate]]'', BigBad Sarevok shows up five minutes into the game and kills your mentor in a cutscene. In ''Baldur's Gate II: Shadows Of Amn'', BigBad Jon Irenicus manages to effortlessly capture shows up several times and captures the party, twice, killing some of them in the process, party at least twice (once offscreen) before you even get the chance to fight him.him. His [[TheDragon lieutenant]] Bodhi does this as well. Averted in ''Throne of Bhaal'' where the BigBad never shows up before the fight, [[spoiler:or at least not in a way that you can fight her.]]
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** Hold on. When is [[spoiler: Ultimecia]] ever in your party? I think you mean FinalFantasyVII, with that one Sephiroth-as-a-partymember sequence...
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* A variant is used in ''[[PokemonColosseum Pokemon Gale of Darkness]]''. The BigBad and his Dragons show up and effortlessly beats down... [[spoiler:A mook who broke the rules. Oh and you don't know its TheBigBad and his 2 Dragons]]. Another example is Shadow Lugia owning a ship in the introduction

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* A variant is used in ''[[PokemonColosseum Pokemon Gale of Darkness]]''. The BigBad and his Dragons show up and effortlessly beats down... [[spoiler:A mook who broke the rules. Oh and you don't know its TheBigBad and his 2 Dragons]]. Another example is Shadow Lugia owning a ship in the introduction
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* ''FinalFantasyVII'' plays this trope straightforward, with an unusual twist: the BigBad is in ''your'' party and laying down the superhuman asskicking against ''your'' enemies. At least for a little while.

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* ''FinalFantasyVII'' ''FinalFantasyVIII'' plays this trope straightforward, with an unusual twist: the BigBad is in ''your'' party and laying down the superhuman asskicking against ''your'' enemies. At least for a little while.

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* JediOutcast has this when Desann schools your Force-less ass and then mocks you how you might have been a challenge if you still had your Force powers (Kyle gave them up after the last game). Of course, [[spoiler: this was just part of a XanatosGambit to get you to go to the Valley of the Jedi and use it to infuse all of his troops with the force.]]

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* JediOutcast has this when Desann schools your Force-less ass and then mocks you how you might have been a challenge if you still had your Force powers (Kyle gave them up after the last game). Of course, [[spoiler: this was just part of a XanatosGambit BatmanGambit to get you to go to the Valley of the Jedi and use it to infuse all of his troops with the force.Force.]]
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Variants are when the villain fully intends to kill the hero, but she is [[BigDamnHeroes rescued]] by their [[TheMentor mentor]] or [[Nakama allies]], maybe at the [[HeroicSacrifice cost of one of their lives]]. Or the villain is frightened off somehow or forced to leave, [[ButForMeItWasTuesday maybe they've got far more pressing matters to worry about]] (say their EvilPlan is put in jeopardy by TheStarscream and he has to leave post haste).

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Variants are when the villain fully intends to kill the hero, but she is [[BigDamnHeroes rescued]] by their [[TheMentor mentor]] or [[Nakama [[FriendsLikeFamily allies]], maybe at the [[HeroicSacrifice cost of one of their lives]]. Or the villain is frightened off somehow or forced to leave, [[ButForMeItWasTuesday maybe they've got far more pressing matters to worry about]] (say their EvilPlan is put in jeopardy by TheStarscream and he has to leave post haste).
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** Also the fight with Phantom Ganon, which is a preview of the [[FinalBoss fight]] with the real Ganondorf.
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Variants are when the villain fully intends to kill the hero, but she is rescued by their mentor or allies, maybe at the cost of one of their lives. Or the villain is frightened off somehow or forced to leave, maybe they've got far more pressing matters to worry about (say their EvilPlan is put in jeopardy by TheStarscream and he has to leave post haste).

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Variants are when the villain fully intends to kill the hero, but she is rescued [[BigDamnHeroes rescued]] by their mentor [[TheMentor mentor]] or allies, [[Nakama allies]], maybe at the [[HeroicSacrifice cost of one of their lives. lives]]. Or the villain is frightened off somehow or forced to leave, [[ButForMeItWasTuesday maybe they've got far more pressing matters to worry about about]] (say their EvilPlan is put in jeopardy by TheStarscream and he has to leave post haste).
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* The first ''MegamanX'' game had Vile attack you in powered armor at the end of the first level. You ''could'' take him down to one health bar if you were skilled enough, but would still KO you and force Zero to come help you.

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* The first ''MegamanX'' game had Vile [[TheDragon Vile]] attack you in powered armor at the end of the first level. You ''could'' take him down to one health bar if with some skill get into a pattern of dodging his paralysing shot and returning fire, but the game won't continue until you were skilled enough, but would still KO you get hit by it and force Zero to come help you.you. You can also accidentally die by [[CollisionDamage touching him]] while low on health.
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** Same in ''FinalFantasyX'' where you have the BigBad in your party for the second part of a SequentialBoss around mid-game. g
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-->--'''Evangeline''' after [[CrowningMoment/MahouSenseiNegima much asskicking]], ''MahouSenseiNegima''

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-->--'''Evangeline''' after [[CrowningMoment/MahouSenseiNegima much asskicking]], asskicking, ''MahouSenseiNegima''
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* The second battle of ''BreathOfFire II'' is against TheDragon, Barubary. Barubary is the second most powerful demon alive and arguably tougher than the final boss. Ryu is a 10 year old boy. [[OneSidedBattle Armed with a stick.]]

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* The second battle of ''BreathOfFire II'' is against TheDragon, Barubary. Barubary is the second most powerful demon alive and arguably tougher than the final boss. Ryu is a 10 6 year old boy. [[OneSidedBattle Armed with a stick.]]
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A specific form of NotSoFastBucko, an aversion of SortingAlgorithmOfEvil and a subversion of NoSneakAttacks. Contrast OrcusOnHisThrone. See also NewWorldTease.

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A specific form of NotSoFastBucko, an aversion a version of SortingAlgorithmOfEvil and a subversion of NoSneakAttacks. Contrast OrcusOnHisThrone. See also NewWorldTease.
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* Happens at the start of pretty much every ''SuperMarioRPG'' game: the giant sword in ''Mario RPG'', Bowser in ''Paper Mario'', Count Bleck in ''Super Paper Mario''.

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* Happens at the start of pretty much every ''SuperMarioRPG'' game: the giant sword in ''Mario RPG'', Bowser in ''Paper Mario'', ''PaperMario'' and Count Bleck [[spoiler: and later, Dimentio]] in ''Super Paper Mario''.Mario'', as well as, technically, all three ''MarioAndLuigi'' games, where Bowser is fought in the tutorial of all three games, but he's never actively the final boss. [[spoiler: In the first two games he serves as such while possessed by the true Big Bads, in the third his own final boss is a shadow version of himself.]]

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** The very first ''FireEmblem'' has the final boss appear halfway through the game, armed with a tome that makes him immortal. He chases you around for a bit, likely killing anyone he catches, until he gets bored and leaves.

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** The very first ''FireEmblem'' and its remake has the final boss TheDragon appear halfway through the game, armed with a tome that makes him immortal. He chases you around for a bit, likely killing anyone he catches, until he gets bored and leaves.leaves.
** The third ''FireEmblem'' and its remake has [[spoiler:Hardin]] appear on chapter 8 and is invulnerable at that point, similar to the Black Knight example, you definately don't want to wait around too long.
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* Black War-Greymon in DigimonAdventure02's intro ep would be this as he kicks everyone's ass to the suprise of the characters and the audience.
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** It's played straight a little while after this prologue, when the real protagonist [[spoiler:(the son of legendary hero Maxim)]] encounters one of the Sinistrals early on in the game. He's allowed to [[PunchPunchPunchUhOh get in a few shots of token offense before the Sinistral wipes him out with one blow.]]

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** It's played straight a little while after this prologue, when the real protagonist [[spoiler:(the son descendant of legendary hero Maxim)]] encounters one of the Sinistrals early on in the game. He's allowed to [[PunchPunchPunchUhOh get in a few shots of token offense before the Sinistral wipes him out with one blow.]]

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* Orochimaru does this in ''{{Naruto}}''.
** So does Itachi a little bit later.
** In a mild subversion, by the time they fight "for real", they've been eclipsed in threat by [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil other villains.]]

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* Orochimaru does this in ''{{Naruto}}''.
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''{{Naruto}}''. So does Itachi a little bit later.
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later. By the time they fight "for real", they've been eclipsed in threat by [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil other villains.]]



* Every Big Bad in ''BuffyTheVampireSlayer.'' EVER.



* ''FinalFantasyIV'' had a subversion when Golbez attacks the party midway through the game. It starts off like this, with Golbez easily smacking down your whole party with a summon, until Rydia shows up and [[BigDamnHeroes saves Cecil]], and the boss fight proper begins. It's also subverted in that [[spoiler:Golbez is not the final boss]].
** The sequel, ''The After Years'' does this numerous times with the game's primary antagonist. At one point you have the option to send a single weak playable character into a matchup with the villain that buffed out parties before him couldn't touch, and upon the first weak shot landed she effortlessly casts one of the most powerful spells in the entire story to rid of you.

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* ''FinalFantasyIV'' had a subversion when Golbez attacks the party midway through the game. It starts off like this, with Golbez easily smacking down your whole party with a summon, until Rydia shows up and [[BigDamnHeroes saves Cecil]], and the boss fight proper begins. It's also subverted in that [[spoiler:Golbez is not the final boss]].
** The sequel, ''The After Years''
''FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears'' does this numerous times with the game's primary antagonist. At one point you have the option to send a single weak playable character into a matchup with the villain that buffed out parties before him couldn't touch, and upon the first weak shot landed she effortlessly casts one of the most powerful spells in the entire story to rid of you.



** Don't forget Phantom Ganon.



** [[spoiler:You get a free preview in Ocean Palace, via an attack that will simply kill the part in one hit. Ironically this version is a lot tougher than his normal self.]]
** However, if your part is strong enough (like in NewGamePlus), you can defeat the BigBad at any time and access the MultipleEndings.

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** [[spoiler:You get a free preview in Ocean Palace, via an attack that will simply kill the part pary in one hit. Ironically this version is a lot tougher than his normal self.]]
** However, if your part pary is strong enough (like in NewGamePlus), you can defeat the BigBad at any time and access the MultipleEndings.



** Though whether or not it counts is up for debate, since Shirou does a pretty good job of fighting back pretty soon after the first appearance.



** When I played this, Ryu ''dodged'' his first attack. Amusingly, then, the battle isn't fixed, it's just that with your stats you could never win and almost never last more than a turn.



* The first battle against Ramirez in ''SkiesOfArcadia'' is a type of this.
** That's assuming you choose to fight him in the first place. Your options are "Surrender" and "Fight, even though you know it is futile."

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* The first battle against Ramirez in ''SkiesOfArcadia'' is a type of this.
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** That's more of a Penultimate Boss Preview.
* Subverted with Specter in ''ApeEscape'' You reach him and think it's the final boss, but when you win, HE RUNS AWAY. So you must beat him again at the end of the game.
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* JediOutcast has this when Desann schools your Force-less ass and then mocks you how you might have been a challenge if you still had your Force powers (Kyle gave them up after the last game). Of course, [[spoiler: this was just part of a XanatosGambit to get you to go to the Valley of the Jedi and use it to infuse all of his troops with the force.]]
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* Nobunaga makes a brief appearance in the second stage of ''{{Onimusha}} Tactics''. You can see his maxed health and pumped out stats. Magochi gives him a direct shot to the face, that does absoultly nothing.

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* Nobunaga makes a brief appearance in the second stage of ''{{Onimusha}} Tactics''. You can see his maxed health and pumped out stats. Magochi gives him a direct shot to the face, that does absoultly absolutely nothing.
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**** And then the first time he appears as an enemy, you ''have'' to have your main character survive a battle with him if you want to unlock [[spoiler:Lehran]] as a playable character later in the game (though this is only possible in a second playthrough or later.) This requires significant level-grinding (to the point that Ike will probably level cap soon afterwards with a number of chapters to go until his story-driven promotion) and, since Nihil and Fortune aren't available to Ike's party yet, is a complete LuckBasedMission (or a SaveScumming-based mission in Normal difficulty or lower).
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* Arch-villain Sylar shows up in the first two episodes of ''Series/{{Heroes}}'', ''before they had even cast an actor for the role'' (he's played by a stuntman and obscured in shadows). He doesn't show up against until almost halfway through the first season.

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* Arch-villain Sylar shows up in the first two episodes of ''Series/{{Heroes}}'', ''before they had even cast an actor for the role'' (he's played by a stuntman and obscured in shadows). He doesn't show up against again until almost halfway through the first season.

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*** For ''Radiant Dawn'', when he first appears, he's on YOUR side. If the Main Character is also Level Capped, the mission is [[strike: probably]] the easiest FireEmblem mission ever. Of course, he's also the most EXP eating happy [[CrutchCharacter Jegan]] in the entire series.

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*** For ''Radiant Dawn'', when he first appears, he's on YOUR side. If the Main Character is also Level Capped, the mission is [[strike: probably]] the easiest FireEmblem mission ever. Of course, he's also the most EXP eating happy [[CrutchCharacter Jegan]] Jagen]] in the entire series.series.
*** In fact, there's a fun variation of this trope: the penultimate boss of ''Radiant Dawn'' appears in ''Path of Radiance'' [[spoiler:as an NPC with no weapons but ''very'' impressive stats.]]
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** Note: You encounter the Lich King much more often than just that. He's seen in many quests, and for Death Knights is a Quest Giver at the start.
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** First, the bad. In the first game, you meet Malak about halfway through. You're powerful enough at this point to beat him into the ground, [[NotSoFastBucko BUT WAIT!]] He recovers and [[CutscenePowerToTheMax effortlessly]] [[TheBattleDidntCount stuns you]]. Bastila then sacrifices herself [[strike: to allow you to escape]] for no good reason whatsoever.

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** First, the bad. In the first game, you meet Malak about halfway through. You're powerful enough at this point to beat him into the ground, ground in a single hit, [[NotSoFastBucko BUT WAIT!]] He recovers and [[CutscenePowerToTheMax effortlessly]] [[TheBattleDidntCount stuns you]]. Bastila then sacrifices herself [[strike: to allow you to escape]] for no good reason whatsoever.
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* In ''FullmetalAlchemist'', Father does this when the main characters encounter him for the first time. He shows off his nigh-invincibility, no-motion transmutation and his power to turn off everyone else's alchemy, setting himself up to be all but impossible to defeat. [[spoiler:And he only gets ''more'' powerful later on.]]
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*''WorldOfWarcraft'' appears to be doing this with the upcoming ''Halls of Reflection'' dungeon previewing Arthas before his raid.

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*''WorldOfWarcraft'' appears to be doing does this with in the upcoming ''Halls Halls of Reflection'' dungeon previewing Arthas before his raid.Reflection dungeon. You have to flee from the Lich King.

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