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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', nearly every principle of fascist propaganda is presented as, more often than not, ''objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually due to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, the idealized genetic superman is entirely real, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', nearly every principle of fascist propaganda is presented as, far more often than not, ''objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence as equals is impossible, internal dissidence is actually due to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, the idealized genetic superman is entirely real, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', nearly every principle of fascist propaganda ''is objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually due to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', nearly every principle of fascist propaganda ''is objectively is presented as, more often than not, ''objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually due to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, the idealized genetic superman is entirely real, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', essentially nearly every principle of fascist propaganda ''is objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually due to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', essentially nearly every principle of fascist propaganda ''is objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually due to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', essentially nearly every principle of fascist propaganda ''is objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually dure to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', essentially nearly every principle of fascist propaganda ''is objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually dure due to foreign or "degenerate" influence in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', essentially every principle of fascist propaganda (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is eradicate them by war, foreign or "degenerate" influence is a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc) is not just well-supported, it's often objectively true. It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', essentially nearly every principle of fascist propaganda ''is objectively true'' (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is to eradicate them by war, co-existence is impossible, internal dissidence is actually dure to foreign or "degenerate" influence is in a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc) is not just well-supported, it's often objectively true.etc). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It can be rather hard to call the game a satire of fascism when, in the world of ''40k'', essentially every principle of fascist propaganda (every external culture is hostile and the only safe answer is eradicate them by war, foreign or "degenerate" influence is a plot to subvert and destroy society, the state is the eternal product of a superior individual and is the only way to ensure our survival, etc) is not just well-supported, it's often objectively true. It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.
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*** Star Trek Deep Space Nine's Garak came to the same conclusion.

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*** Star Trek Deep Space Nine's ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'''s Garak came to the same conclusion.
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2318355/1/Make_A_Wish Make a Wish]]'', there are several points where Harry's travel guide goes into great detail about how to perform spells that are flagged as illegal in a given country, including wand movements and incantations. Harry especially likes the one that removes the Trace so no one will know he's doing underage magic.
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch''[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', especially the older versions of it, is rather clear in its "fascist totalitarianism is bad" message with the [[TheEmpire Imperium]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters of Man]] serving as an example of [[FascistButInefficient a dysfunctional fascist regime]]. But this aesop is watered down by how 1) the Imperium [[VillainProtagonist is the POV faction]] for [[SpotlightStealingSquad an overwhelming amount of material]] (easily 90% of the various books, codices, videogames and the likes are either from a pure Imperium P.O.V. or feature them as one of the protagonists, even getting [[Literature/HorusHeresy a hundred books long series about their backstory]]) to the detriment of other factions who aren't given as much SympatheticPOV stories[[note]][[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1271n9c/factions_repartition_in_black_library_output_over/ Someone did the math]], and as of late 2022, books focused on the Imperium and its' characters account for ''more than 80% of the output of Games Workshop's publishing branch''[[/note]]; branch'', and that's without getting into the videogames, audio dramas, comics or animations that are ''also'' majorly focused on the Imperium[[/note]]; 2) the Imperium's enemies are almost never presented as being better than it (at best, they will be presented as [[BlackAndGrayMorality just as bad]], and several times where some other faction ended up appearing more moral than the Imperium they were promptly retconned to be worse); and 3) the Imperium just plain looks ''[[EvilIsCool cool]]'' and draws a lot of its imagery from Crusades-era Europe and 20th-century dictatorships. As a result, it's no surprise that a fair amount of ''40k'' fans are RootingForTheEmpire (and some even have a MisaimedFandom towards it). It got to the point that Games Workshop had to make an [[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ official statement]] in November 2021 that they are not to be admired.

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If a work attempts to play down the attractive aspects and stick to the unappealing ones, the work itself may become unappealing as a result, which again [[DontShootTheMessage undermines the goal of spreading its message]]. It's [[ScyllaAndCharybdis a tricky artistic balance]]: If you ShowDontTell, you risk showing something bad as cool, but if you just tell, you're left with a boring AuthorTract saying "AndThatsTerrible." This trope was formerly called "Truffaut was right", named for French director Creator/FrancoisTruffaut who noted that you simply cannot make a truly anti-war movie. The dilemma being that the natural instinct to tell an engaging story and with a refined cinematic presentation means that no matter how much you try to demonize violence [[FourthWallMyopia the audience is able to separate the story from real life]], while glamorizing it anyway.

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If a work attempts to play down the attractive aspects and stick to the unappealing ones, the work itself may become unappealing as a result, which again [[DontShootTheMessage undermines the goal of spreading its message]]. It's [[ScyllaAndCharybdis a tricky artistic balance]]: If you ShowDontTell, you risk showing something bad as cool, but if you just tell, you're left with a boring AuthorTract saying "AndThatsTerrible." "

This trope was formerly called "Truffaut was right", named for French director Creator/FrancoisTruffaut who noted that you simply cannot make a truly anti-war movie. The dilemma being that the natural instinct to tell an engaging story and with a refined cinematic presentation means that no matter how much you try to demonize violence [[FourthWallMyopia the audience is able to separate the story from real life]], while glamorizing it anyway.

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