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* In ''Theatre/CrossRoad'', violinist Niccolo Paganini reluctantly agrees to let Asha be his student, after she tells him in her IWantSong that music is her only freedom in her hard life, and compares the discrimination she faces as a gypsy to the way he's treated by society over his DealWithTheDevil. In that deal, the devil Amduscias has given Paganini the ability to play one million songs of genius, and after the millionth song, Paganini forfeits his life. Because of this, there is no freedom in music for him. "You have the right to enjoy music," he tells Asha. "I don't". Yet he teaches her anyway, using up some of his million songs to do so. When she finds out that that was the deal -- that he was using up his own life to teach her -- she regrets asking.
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* In ''Theatre/CrossRoad'', violinist Niccolo Paganini reluctantly agrees to let Asha be his student, after she tells him in her IWantSong that music is her only freedom in her hard life, and compares the discrimination she faces as a gypsy to the way he's treated by society over his DealWithTheDevil. In that deal, the devil Amduscias has given Paganini the ability to play one million songs of genius, and after the millionth song, Paganini forfeits his life. Because of this, there is no freedom in music for him. "You have the right to enjoy music," he tells Asha. "I don't". Yet he teaches her anyway, using up some of his million songs to do so. When she finds out that that was the deal -- that he was using up his own life to teach her -- she regrets asking.
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* ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'': Shifu does ''not'' think that Po is the Dragon Warrior and doesn't want him in the Jade Palace, but he puts up with him, tricking Po for a while with TrainingFromHell. Then, he finally starts training him correctly using food as the motivator, and even then it seems a bit cruel. But that's when he (like [[Franchise/{{Rocky}} Mick]]) gets upgraded to CoolOldGuy.
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* ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'': ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda1'': Shifu does ''not'' think that Po is the Dragon Warrior and doesn't want him in the Jade Palace, but he puts up with him, tricking Po for a while with TrainingFromHell. Then, he finally starts training him correctly using food as the motivator, and even then it seems a bit cruel. But that's when he (like [[Franchise/{{Rocky}} Mick]]) gets upgraded to CoolOldGuy.
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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': Meti ten Ryo, Maya's ([[PosthumousCharacter long-dead]]) sword teacher, was a Cynic philosopher and also quite cynical in outlook: Her teachings were intentionally self-contradictory and mostly boiled down to "trying to solve problems with a sword makes you an idiot". Her highest hope for her student appears to have been to annoy her sufficiently into quitting the sword altogether and becoming a noodle vendor, [[spoiler:and deliberately picked a power-hungry sociopath as her other apprentice in order to show Maya what ''not'' to do with a sword]]. Maya, at the present stage in her life, seems to have taken up Meti's outlook and is annoyed she didn't listen: She mainly seems to stay a wandering swordmaster [[spoiler:simply on the off chance it lets her encounter and kill Incubus.]]
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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': Meti ten Ryo, Maya's ([[PosthumousCharacter long-dead]]) sword teacher, was a Cynic philosopher and also quite cynical in outlook: Her teachings were intentionally self-contradictory and mostly boiled down to "trying to solve problems with a sword makes you an idiot". Her highest hope for her student appears to have been to annoy her sufficiently into quitting the sword altogether and becoming a noodle vendor, [[spoiler:and deliberately picked a power-hungry sociopath as her other apprentice in order to show Maya what ''not'' ''[[RightWayWrongWayPair not]]'' to do with a sword]]. Maya, at the present stage in her life, seems to have taken up Meti's outlook and is annoyed she didn't listen: She mainly seems to stay a wandering swordmaster [[spoiler:simply on the off chance it lets her encounter and kill Incubus.]]
