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** Alektra is a very beleaguered, borderline sympathetic case. Having been outed as a Norma as a child, and failing with Libertus and her comrades against Embryo, she has had a long standing vendetta against the World of Mana, to the point she'll use anyone. When Ange returns and offers the idea of allyship with the [=DRAGONs=], she accepts, but her idea is to use them as CannonFodder against Embryo, [[ShameIfSomethingHappened using Ange's loyal maid Momoka as leverage]]. Ange rightfully seethes with indignance, calling her out for [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming as bad as Embryo]].

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** Alektra is a very beleaguered, borderline sympathetic case. Having been outed as a Norma as a child, and failing with Libertus Libertas and her comrades against Embryo, she has had a long standing vendetta against the World of Mana, to the point she'll use anyone. When Ange returns and offers the idea of allyship with the [=DRAGONs=], she accepts, but her idea is to use them as CannonFodder against Embryo, [[ShameIfSomethingHappened using Ange's loyal maid Momoka as leverage]]. Ange rightfully seethes with indignance, calling her out for [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming as bad as Embryo]].

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** The Norma are discriminated by the Mana users for the fact that they shatter Mana on contact (not to mention that they were programmed by Embryo to do so to placate them), expelled from Mana society and sent to a PenalColony where they are used as CannonFodder against extradimensional [=DRAGONs=] [[ChildSoldier from the age of twelve]]. The [=DRAGONs=] themselves, who are similarly opposed to Embryo, the architect of the world, the slaughter of their kind, and the Normas' predicament, at first lack empathy for the Norma, seeing them as accessories to Embryo's crimes, and obliterate half of their base, Arzenal, killing off several Norma in the process, and their leader almost executing Ange, who was nearly killed twice by both sides already. It takes Sala to slowly form an alliance between the two.
** Alektra is a very beleaguered, borderline sympathetic case. Having been outed as a Norma as a child, and failing with Libertus and her comrades against Embryo, she has had a long standing vendetta against the World of Mana, to the point she'll use anyone. When Ange returns and offers the idea of allyship with the [=DRAGONs=], she accepts, but her idea is to use them as CannonFodder against Embryo, [[ShameIfSomethingHappened using Ange's loyal maid Momoka as leverage]]. Ange rightfully seethes with indignance, calling her out for [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming as bad as Embryo]].
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* In ''Manga/KarakuridoujiUltimo'', Dr. Dunston, who created robots that are pure good and pure evil, encounters a group of bandits who are JustLikeRobinHood. He remarks that the good robot, Ultimo, would consider the bandits criminals who deserve punishment, while the evil robot, Vice, would kill them ForTheEvulz. However, this is subverted when Ultimo sees the bandits' sense of camaraderie and protects them from Vice.


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* In ''VideoGame/Persona4'', Kanji, a boy who had feminine interests such as sewing, not only didn't fit in among his male peers, but the girls didn't accept him, either. Being rejected by both guys and girls for his hobbies is one factor that led to him becoming a {{delinquent}}.
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* Famously happened in the ComicBook/{{Batman}} / ComicBook/CaptainAmerica crossover comic book. Since Red Skull is a Nazi, Red Skull is held equally in contempt not only by the heroes, but by ComicBook/TheJoker as well (since, by Joker's own admission, Joker is still a proud American even if he is AxeCrazy).

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* Famously happened in the ComicBook/{{Batman}} / ComicBook/CaptainAmerica [[ComicBook/BatmanAndCaptainAmerica crossover comic book.book]]. Since Red Skull is a Nazi, Red Skull is held equally in contempt not only by the heroes, but by ComicBook/TheJoker as well (since, by Joker's own admission, Joker is still a proud American even if he is AxeCrazy).
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* Runaway synths (ArtificialHuman) in ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' truly have it bad from everybody. The Institute that made them considers them to be malfunctioning equipment which must be forcibly subdued, brought back and mind-wiped. Synths are ''terrified'' of this prospect, seeing having their mind wiped as akin to death. However, the wasteland they escape to isn’t welcoming of them either, due to long standing paranoia about synths being part of the Institute’s KillAndReplace manipulation of society, as well as possibly being OmnicidalManiac types, owing to a decades-old massacre. The only people sympathetic to their plight, the Railroad, have to work in secret.

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* * ''VideoGame/Fallout4'': Runaway synths (ArtificialHuman) in ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' [[ArtificialHuman synths]] truly have it bad from everybody. The Institute that made them considers them to be malfunctioning equipment which must be forcibly subdued, brought back and mind-wiped. Synths are ''terrified'' of this prospect, seeing having their mind wiped as akin to death. However, the wasteland they escape to isn’t welcoming of them either, due to long standing paranoia about synths being part of the Institute’s KillAndReplace manipulation of society, as well as possibly being OmnicidalManiac types, owing to a decades-old massacre. The only people sympathetic to their plight, the Railroad, have to work in secret.
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* Runaway synths (ArtificialHuman) in ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' truly have it bad from everybody. The Institute that made them considers them to be malfunctioning equipment, which must be forcibly subdued, brought back and mind-wiped. Synths are ''terrified''of the prospect of having their mind wiped, seeing it as akin to death. However, the wasteland they escape to, isn’t welcoming of them either, due to long standing paranoia about synths being part of the Institute’s KillAndReplace manipulation of society, as well as possibly being OmnicidalManiac types, owing to a decades ago massacre. The only people sympathetic to their plight - the Railroad, has to work in secret.

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* Runaway synths (ArtificialHuman) in ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' truly have it bad from everybody. The Institute that made them considers them to be malfunctioning equipment, equipment which must be forcibly subdued, brought back and mind-wiped. Synths are ''terrified''of the prospect ''terrified'' of this prospect, seeing having their mind wiped, seeing it wiped as akin to death. However, the wasteland they escape to, to isn’t welcoming of them either, due to long standing paranoia about synths being part of the Institute’s KillAndReplace manipulation of society, as well as possibly being OmnicidalManiac types, owing to a decades ago decades-old massacre. The only people sympathetic to their plight - plight, the Railroad, has have to work in secret.
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** Kurozumi Orochi, the tyrannical shogun of Wano, is despised by nearly all of his country, save for a handful of loyalists. He even ends up attracting the contempt of his ally Kaido, despite the fact that they are both enemies of the samurai, and [[spoiler:Kaido decapitates Orochi [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once he's no longer useful]], even if the decapitation doesn't actually kill Orochi.]]


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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', [[KnightTemplar Miko Miyazaki]] not only ends up being hated by the eponymous party of adventurers, but [[TheFriendNobodyLikes her fellow Paladins hate her, too]]. Unsurprisingly, [[BigBad Xykon]] and his minions don't think much of Miko when they interact. After Miko [[spoiler:assassinates her liege lord Shoujo for supposedly betraying her and her fellow Paladins]], she's become a pariah from both the good and evil sides.
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* ''Fanfic/TheMountainAndTheWolf'':
** The Wolf never shows anything but unrelenting contempt for his victims, decrying their combat ability and weakness. Said victims are also the most hated people in all Westeros (Gregor Clegane, Ramsay Bolton, Petyr Baelish, Euron Greyjoy, and Cersei Lannister). Euron's crew doesn't lift a finger to help him after the Wolf beats him in a duel.
** The Wolf himself is technically a victim of this- even the people he's allied with and hate the aforementioned victims can't stand him and his oafish ways, but he never seems to notice.
** The Wolf later captures a Dark Elf slaver, reserving especially humiliating and terrifying treatment for its captain. Even when all the elves are about to be sold off to Chaos Dwarves, the crew are seen looking disgustedly at him for collapsing in fear.

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** Donquixote Homing [[DefectorFromDecadence decided to part ways with the rest of the Celestial Dragons in order to live as an ordinary human, but found that the common people despised the Celestial Dragons so much that they sought brutal revenge against him and his family. Meanwhile, the other Celestial Dragons looked down on Homing and refused his request to have his sons reinstated as nobles. This culminated in Doflamingo killing Homing in a futile attempt to return to the nobility.

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** Donquixote Homing [[DefectorFromDecadence decided to part ways with the rest of the Celestial Dragons in order to live as an ordinary human, human]], but found that the common people despised the Celestial Dragons so much that they sought brutal revenge against him and his family. Meanwhile, the other Celestial Dragons looked down on Homing and refused his request to have his sons reinstated as nobles. This culminated in Doflamingo killing Homing in a futile attempt to return to the nobility.nobility.
* In ''A Lazy Guy Woke Up As A Girl One Morning'', the boys and girls of the third-year class argue which of them should get Yasuda, the lazy guy-turned girl, because the boys realize that Yasuda's laziness [[TheLoad causes them to lose while he's on their team]], and the girls don't want to give up the advantage by having to take him onto their team now that he's a girl.


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* In ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', this is rather common due to how the warring Alliance and Horde factions often find themselves facing a mutual foe, and can sometimes [[EnemyMine put aside their differences to fight their common enemy.]]
** The Forsaken, the TokenEvilTeammate of the Horde, are distrusted by the rest of their faction and outright despised by the Alliance due to the atrocities they commit against their enemies. It gets especially bad after the battle of the Wrathgate, in which a rogue Forsaken alchemist bombards a joint Alliance and Horde effort against the Scourge with a plague designed to kill the dead and the living.
** In ''Warlords of Draenor'', Gul'dan and his followers fit this role. Not only are they enemies to the Alliance and Horde(as well as their draenei and orc allies), but also to Grommash's Iron Horde, which rejected Gul'dan's offer of power thanks to a time traveling Garrosh's help. [[spoiler:When Gul'dan becomes the final antagonist of the expansion, Grommash fights alongside the heroes to stop Archimonde.]]
** Also from ''Warlords'', there's Ner'zhul and the Shadowmoon Clan. Being part of the Iron Horde makes them enemies to the heroes, but even the Iron Horde doesn't value them, and pressures them to prove their worth lest the Iron Horde destroy them anyway.
** In ''Legion'', the Nightborne who collaborated with the Burning Legion are enemies to the Alliance, the Horde and many of their own people. Even the Legion don't regard them very highly, with Tichondrius mocking them for failing to defeat the intruders.
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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': Ketran (a Yeerk) has some difficulty convincing the Animorphs that there is such a thing as peaceful Yeerks who oppose taking unwilling hosts, as they've known nothing but Yeerks trying to kill them. Meanwhile the militaristic Yeerks see the peace movement as traitors to the cause and hunt them down.

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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': Ketran Aftran (a Yeerk) has some difficulty convincing the Animorphs that there is such a thing as peaceful Yeerks who oppose taking unwilling hosts, as they've known nothing but Yeerks trying to kill them. Meanwhile the militaristic Yeerks see the peace movement as traitors to the cause and hunt them down.

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', the Seven Warlords of the Sea are pirates who work with the World Government in exchange for a certain amount of license to operate with impunity. Law-abiding citizens hate them for being criminals who went unpunished for their crimes and are likely plotting against the government, while pirates consider them "government dogs" who sold out. As a result, [[spoiler:virtually no one complains when the World Government dissolves the Seven Warlords system and immediately moves to capture the remaining Warlords]].

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** Donquixote Homing [[DefectorFromDecadence decided to part ways with the rest of the Celestial Dragons in order to live as an ordinary human, but found that the common people despised the Celestial Dragons so much that they sought brutal revenge against him and his family. Meanwhile, the other Celestial Dragons looked down on Homing and refused his request to have his sons reinstated as nobles. This culminated in Doflamingo killing Homing in a futile attempt to return to the nobility.



* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'', Those Who Slither In The Dark, an antagonistic faction, end up drawing the contempt of both sides of the war between [[spoiler:the Adrestian empire and the rest of Fodlan]]. Their allies despise them and only work with them out of convenience, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness disposing of them after the war ends in [[spoiler:the route in which Byleth joins Edelgard]], and leaving behind instructions to ensure their defeat in [[spoiler:the Golden Deer and Church routes]].

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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'', Those Who Slither In The Dark, an antagonistic faction, end up drawing the contempt of both sides of the war between [[spoiler:the Adrestian empire and the rest of Fodlan]]. Their allies despise them and only work with them out of convenience, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness disposing of them after the war ends ends]] in [[spoiler:the route in which Byleth joins Edelgard]], and leaving behind instructions to ensure their defeat in [[spoiler:the Golden Deer and Church routes]].
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*in the fourth book of ''Literature/TheDeathGateCycle'', Alfred stands in an almost literal example of this, when Samah blames him for helping the Ancient Enemy, the Patryn, and being unworthy of a Sartan, and Haplo, the Patryn helped by alfred, blames him for being Sartan and expresses disgust in the idea of being allied with one. All Alfred wants is to stop them fighting/

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', the Seven Warlords of the Sea are pirate who work with the World Government in exchange for a certain amount of license to operate with impunity. Law-abiding citizens hate them for being criminals who went unpunished for their crimes and are likely plotting against the government, while pirates consider them "government dogs" who sold out. As a result, [[spoiler:virtually no one complains when the World Government dissolves the Seven Warlords system and immediately moves to capture the remaining Warlords]].

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'''Sugou:''' (exasperated) Ah ha ha, sir, that's not my name. That was the brand of briefcase I put all the money in.\\

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-->'''Elsa:''' Is that what you think of me? [[NotInThisForYourRevolution I believe in the Grail, not the swastika]]!
-->'''Indy:''' You stood up to be counted among the enemies of everything the Grail stands for. Who gives a '''DAMN''' what you believe!
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-->'''Elsa:''' Is that what you think of me? [[NotInThisForYourRevolution I believe in the Grail, not the swastika]]!
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* In ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', [[spoiler:Dr. Emma Russel]] is regarded with disgust and mockery by both the [=MONARCH=] scientists she defected from, who call her insane for twisting their pro-{{kaiju}} beliefs into justifying borderline genocide "for the sake of Earth's survival", and the {{ecoterrorist}}s she joined up with, who mock her as weak-willed and hypocritical for not only accepting the true horror of their plans but for also getting cold feet once her daughter gets in danger trying to stop her plan.

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* In ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', [[spoiler:Dr. Emma Russel]] is regarded with disgust and mockery by both the [=MONARCH=] MONARCH scientists she defected from, who call her insane for twisting their pro-{{kaiju}} beliefs into justifying borderline genocide "for the sake of Earth's survival", and the {{ecoterrorist}}s she joined up with, who mock her as weak-willed and hypocritical for not only accepting the true horror of their plans but for also getting cold feet once her daughter gets in danger trying to stop her plan.



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->But I did read every single comment, because I am absolutely obsessed with myself, and it was just "Gay people aren't funny", "I hate gay people", "I hate the white girl whine", "We get it, you like dick, don't make it sound like one's in you right now", "Gay people aren't funny", but then thank God, finally people did come out and say "Actually, shut up, because gay people ''are'' funny, and just because this person isn't funny doesn't mean no gay people are funny." And I was like, "Oh my God, even the allies are absolutely dragging me!" Put it on my tombstone: "Here lies Pat Regan, the allies hated him even."
-->-- '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8gnITfHTeI Pat Regan]]'''
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->''The Count of Morcerf was no favorite with his colleagues. Like all upstarts, he had had recourse to a great deal of haughtiness to maintain his position. The true nobility laughed at him, the talented repelled him, and the honorable instinctively despised him.''
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* Politics create this situation all the time. For example, UsefulNotes/BernieSanders calls himself a democratic socialist, and as a result, his political opponents frequently frame him as a [[RedScare commie-loving dictator in the making]]... while more hardline socialists accuse him of not being socialist ''enough.''[[note]]His policies are actually closer to social democracy than anything else, i.e. capitalism with extensive welfare policies.[[/note]]
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* In ''Film/GodzillaKingOfMonsters'', [[spoiler:Dr. Emma Russel]] is regarded with disgust and mockery by both the [=MONARCH=] scientists she defected from, who call her insane for twisting their pro-{{kaiju}} beliefs into justifying borderline genocide "for the sake of Earth's survival", and the {{ecoterrorist}}s she joined up with, who mock her as weak-willed and hypocritical for not only accepting the true horror of their plans but for also getting cold feet once her daughter gets in danger trying to stop her plan.

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* In ''Film/GodzillaKingOfMonsters'', ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', [[spoiler:Dr. Emma Russel]] is regarded with disgust and mockery by both the [=MONARCH=] scientists she defected from, who call her insane for twisting their pro-{{kaiju}} beliefs into justifying borderline genocide "for the sake of Earth's survival", and the {{ecoterrorist}}s she joined up with, who mock her as weak-willed and hypocritical for not only accepting the true horror of their plans but for also getting cold feet once her daughter gets in danger trying to stop her plan.
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->The Count of Morcerf was no favorite with his colleagues. Like all upstarts, he had had recourse to a great deal of haughtiness to maintain his position. The true nobility laughed at him, the talented repelled him, and the honorable instinctively despised him.
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** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'': Vimes finds himself on the receiving end when he investigates the attempted murder of the Klatchian envoy, finding evidence everywhere that somebody tried to make it look like a Klatchian did it. It actually was [[spoiler:the Klatchians (deliberately badly framing themselves)]], but Vimes was railroading himself into looking for Ankh-Morpork guilt because doing otherwise would make him appear to side with the racist {{Upperclass Twit}}s (most of which already look down on him for not being of sufficient breeding and daring to think he can actually arrest them) and unthinking lowbrow hotheads in the city.

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** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'': ''Literature/{{Jingo}}'': Vimes finds himself on the receiving end when he investigates the attempted murder of the Klatchian envoy, finding evidence everywhere that somebody tried to make it look like a Klatchian did it. It actually was [[spoiler:the Klatchians (deliberately badly framing themselves)]], but Vimes was railroading himself into looking for Ankh-Morpork guilt because doing otherwise would make him appear to side with the racist {{Upperclass Twit}}s (most of which already look down on him for not being of sufficient breeding and daring to think he can actually arrest them) and unthinking lowbrow hotheads in the city.



** ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' has Gilt and Vetinari exchanging a look after UpperClassTwit Horsefry (one of the clacks executives) demonstrates his crass ignorance of Thud (used to demonstrate that SmartPeoplePlayChess):

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** ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' ''Literature/GoingPostal'' has Gilt and Vetinari exchanging a look after UpperClassTwit Horsefry (one of the clacks executives) demonstrates his crass ignorance of Thud (used to demonstrate that SmartPeoplePlayChess):



** ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'': Ridcully finds himself having to rebuke an unpleasant ObstructiveBureaucrat without looking like it to preserve his authority but let Nutt continue coaching the team.

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** ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'': ''Literature/UnseenAcademicals'': Ridcully finds himself having to rebuke an unpleasant ObstructiveBureaucrat without looking like it to preserve his authority but let Nutt continue coaching the team.
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Compare CategoryTraitor, YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame and StopBeingStereotypical (the middle character's perception of the extremists), NoTrueScotsman (the extremist's perception of the middle character), TheHorseshoeEffect (where the more extreme opposing positions are, the closer they are to each other), MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch, WithUsOrAgainstUs, TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, and BlackAndWhiteInsanity. Frequently seen alongside RewardedAsATraitorDeserves.

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Compare CategoryTraitor, YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame and StopBeingStereotypical (the middle character's perception of the extremists), NoTrueScotsman (the extremist's perception of the middle character), HalfBreedDiscrimination (where the issue isn't ideology but race/species), TheHorseshoeEffect (where the more extreme opposing positions are, the closer they are to each other), MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch, WithUsOrAgainstUs, TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, and BlackAndWhiteInsanity. Frequently seen alongside RewardedAsATraitorDeserves.
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* In ''Film/GodzillaIIKingOfMonsters'', [[spoiler:Dr. Emma Russel]] is regarded with disgust and mockery by both the [=MONARCH=] scientists she defected from, who call her insane for twisting their pro-{{kaiju}} beliefs into justifying borderline genocide "for the sake of Earth's survival", and the {{ecoterrorist}}s she joined up with, who mock her as weak-willed and hypocritical for not only accepting the true horror of their plans but for also getting cold feet once her daughter gets in danger trying to stop her plan.

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* Urd in ''Manga/AhMyGoddess'' is held in contempt by both [[{{God}} the Almigthy One]] (because Urd is the AntiChrist) and by [[{{Satan}} Hild]] (because Urd is half-angel, and this makes her noble and heroic and thus [[AntiAntiChrist not a proper harbinger of the Apocalypse]]).

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* Urd in ''Manga/AhMyGoddess'' is held in contempt by both [[{{God}} the Almigthy Almighty One]] (because Urd is the AntiChrist) and by [[{{Satan}} Hild]] (because Urd is half-angel, and this makes her noble and heroic and thus [[AntiAntiChrist not a proper harbinger of the Apocalypse]]).



* In the aftermath of ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', Arcade's attempt at showing he's a worthy contender in the villain circle backfires hard: all of the other heroes out there want his blood in retaliation for forcing a bunch of teenagers into a DeadlyGame but don't really give more of a damn about him, and all of the other villains think even ''less'' of him now because they believe he's incredibly stupid because he had to go after teenagers ("easy targets") to make a plan that worked and they also consider said plan to be copycat crap (Arcade himself acknowledged InUniverse that he [[PlagiarismInFiction "borrowed" the idea]] from ''Literature/BattleRoyale'').

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Note that Bob can be meant to be sympathetic (for example, if Alice is a FanHater, Charlie a FanDumb, and Bob a non-obsessive fan of the same work) or unsympathetic (Alice is resisting her country's invaders, Charlie is one of the invaders, Bob is TheQuisling, David just wants the fighting to stop).

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Note that Bob can be meant to be sympathetic (for example, if Alice is a FanHater, Charlie a FanDumb, and Bob a non-obsessive fan of the same work) work--or, alternately, Alice and Charlie are part of rival gangs, and Bob is the police officer just trying to keep the peace) or unsympathetic (Alice is resisting her country's invaders, Charlie is one of the invaders, Bob is TheQuisling, David just wants the fighting to stop).
stop--or, alternately, Alice is an honest cop, Charlie is a mob boss, and Bob is a heroin dealer who is making life difficult for both of them).
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Compare CategoryTraitor, YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame and StopBeingStereotypical (the middle character's perception of the extremists), NoTrueScotsman (the extremist's perception of the middle character), MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch, WithUsOrAgainstUs, TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, and BlackAndWhiteInsanity. Frequently seen alongside RewardedAsATraitorDeserves.

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Compare CategoryTraitor, YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame and StopBeingStereotypical (the middle character's perception of the extremists), NoTrueScotsman (the extremist's perception of the middle character), TheHorseshoeEffect (where the more extreme opposing positions are, the closer they are to each other), MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch, WithUsOrAgainstUs, TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, and BlackAndWhiteInsanity. Frequently seen alongside RewardedAsATraitorDeserves.



** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'': Vimes finds himself on the receiving end when he investigates the attempted murder of the Klatchian envoy, finding evidence everywhere that somebody tried to make it look like a Klatchian did it. It actually was the Klatchians (deliberately badly framing themselves), but Vimes was railroading himself into looking for Ankh-Morpork guilt because doing otherwise would make him appear to side with the racist {{Upperclass Twit}}s (most of which already look down on him for not being of sufficient breeding and daring to think he can actually arrest them) and unthinking lowbrow hotheads in the city.

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** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'': Vimes finds himself on the receiving end when he investigates the attempted murder of the Klatchian envoy, finding evidence everywhere that somebody tried to make it look like a Klatchian did it. It actually was the [[spoiler:the Klatchians (deliberately badly framing themselves), themselves)]], but Vimes was railroading himself into looking for Ankh-Morpork guilt because doing otherwise would make him appear to side with the racist {{Upperclass Twit}}s (most of which already look down on him for not being of sufficient breeding and daring to think he can actually arrest them) and unthinking lowbrow hotheads in the city.



** ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'': Harry puts himself between Sirius Black trying to murder Peter Pettigrew to avenge the murders of Harry's parents and Sirius' imprisonment. Harry does this not because he has any sympathy for Pettigrew (he rejects his sniveling attempts at gratitude) but because he wants to think his father wouldn't have approved of his friends killing each other (not to mention the leaving Pettigrew alive to face trial is a CruelMercy).

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** ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'': Harry puts himself between Sirius Black trying to murder Peter Pettigrew to avenge the murders of Harry's parents and Sirius' imprisonment. Harry does this not because he has any sympathy for Pettigrew (he rejects his sniveling attempts at gratitude) but because he wants to think his father wouldn't have approved of his friends killing each other (not to mention the that leaving Pettigrew alive to face trial is a CruelMercy).



* Downplayed to mutual ignorance in Creator/DaveBarry's ''Money Secrets'', where one of the reasons newspapers are failing (according to newspaper editors) is that young people don't read the papers, thus changes must be made to make it more enticing, mostly involving giving less actual news, more pieces on celebrities, tattoos, skateboarding, etc. This has the two-pronged result of making older readers cancel their subscriptions (as the paper now looks like a hybrid between a tabloid and a comic book) and younger readers not subscribe (because as noted earlier, young people do not read newspapers).

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* Downplayed to mutual ignorance in Creator/DaveBarry's ''Money Secrets'', where one of the reasons newspapers are failing (according to newspaper editors) is that young people don't read the papers, thus changes must be made to make it more enticing, mostly involving giving less actual news, more pieces on celebrities, tattoos, skateboarding, etc. This has the two-pronged result of making older readers cancel their subscriptions (as the paper now looks like a hybrid between a tabloid and a comic book) and younger readers not subscribe (because because, as noted earlier, young people do not read newspapers).newspapers.
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* Politics create this situation all the time. For example, UsefulNotes/BernieSanders calls himself a democratic socialist, and as a result, his political opponents frequently frame him as a [[RedScare commie-loving dictator in the making]]... while more hardline socialists accuse him of not being socialist ''enough.''[[note]]His policies are most similar to social democracy than anything else, i.e. capitalism with extensive welfare policies.[[/note]]

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* Politics create this situation all the time. For example, UsefulNotes/BernieSanders calls himself a democratic socialist, and as a result, his political opponents frequently frame him as a [[RedScare commie-loving dictator in the making]]... while more hardline socialists accuse him of not being socialist ''enough.''[[note]]His policies are most similar actually closer to social democracy than anything else, i.e. capitalism with extensive welfare policies.[[/note]]
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* Politics create this situation all the time. For example, UsefulNotes/BernieSanders calls himself a democratic socialist, and as a result, his political opponents frequently frame him as a [[RedScare Commie-loving dictator in the making]]... while more hardline socialists accuse him of not being socialist ''enough.''[[note]]His policies are most similar to social democracy than anything else, i.e. capitalism with extensive welfare policies.[[/note]]

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* Politics create this situation all the time. For example, UsefulNotes/BernieSanders calls himself a democratic socialist, and as a result, his political opponents frequently frame him as a [[RedScare Commie-loving commie-loving dictator in the making]]... while more hardline socialists accuse him of not being socialist ''enough.''[[note]]His policies are most similar to social democracy than anything else, i.e. capitalism with extensive welfare policies.[[/note]]
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