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** John is also able to lie (or half-lie, at least) when facing the Scarran heat probe on several occasions. Emperor Staleek even comments that he is immune to the probing in ''The Peacekeeper Wars''.
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* In the ''{{Robocop}}'' TV series, Robocop comes equipped with an almost foolproof lie detector--so accurate it analyzes, among other things, facial tics that occur in less than a second. ''Almost'' in that, in one episode, they try to get a statement out of a career politician who is so good at his job that Robocop's lie detector is fooled, mere moments after having committed the crime.

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* In the ''{{Robocop}}'' TV series, Robocop comes equipped with an almost foolproof lie detector--so accurate it analyzes, among other things, facial tics that occur in less than a second. ''Almost'' in that, in one episode, they try to get a statement out of a career politician who is so good at his job that Robocop's an identical lie detector is fooled, mere moments after having committed even when the crime.politician says he's ''Abraham Lincoln''.
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* ''ShatteredGlass'' depicts Stephen Glass, the writer for ''The New Republic'', as something like this; he faked at least 21 of his 47 articles for the magazine in part or in total and got away with it for two years, and went to the extent of faking business cards, websites, email addresses and such for his sources. It's played with, however, in that his stories as published are immensely convincing; however, when his editor Charles Lane starts [[PullTheThread pulling the thread]] and confronting him about his stories face to face he immediately turns into something of a BadLiar, acting sweaty, whining and unconvincing, relying on {{Lame Excuse}}s and [[WoundedGazelleGambit playing the victim]].

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* ''ShatteredGlass'' depicts Stephen Glass, the writer for ''The New Republic'', as something like this; he faked at least 21 of his 47 articles for the magazine in part or in total and got away with it for two years, and went to the extent of faking business cards, websites, email addresses and such for his sources. It's played with, however, in that his stories as published are immensely convincing; however, when his editor Charles Lane starts [[PullTheThread pulling the thread]] and confronting him about his stories face to face he immediately turns into something of a BadLiar, acting sweaty, whining and unconvincing, relying on {{Lame Excuse}}s and [[WoundedGazelleGambit playing the victim]].victim]] to convince people to believe him.
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* ''ShatteredGlass'' depicts Stephen Glass, the writer for ''The New Republic'', as something like this; he faked at least 21 of his 47 articles for the magazine in part or in total and got away with it for two years, and went to the extent of faking business cards, websites, email addresses and such for his sources. It's played with, however, in that his stories as published are immensely convincing; however, when his editor Charles Lane starts [[PullTheThread pulling the thread]] and confronting him about his stories face to face he immediately turns sweaty, whining and unconvincing, relying on {{Lame Excuse}}s and [[WoundedGazelleGambit playing the victim]].

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* ''ShatteredGlass'' depicts Stephen Glass, the writer for ''The New Republic'', as something like this; he faked at least 21 of his 47 articles for the magazine in part or in total and got away with it for two years, and went to the extent of faking business cards, websites, email addresses and such for his sources. It's played with, however, in that his stories as published are immensely convincing; however, when his editor Charles Lane starts [[PullTheThread pulling the thread]] and confronting him about his stories face to face he immediately turns into something of a BadLiar, acting sweaty, whining and unconvincing, relying on {{Lame Excuse}}s and [[WoundedGazelleGambit playing the victim]].
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* ''ShatteredGlass'' depicts Stephen Glass, the writer for ''The New Republic'', as something like this; he faked at least 21 of his 47 articles for the magazine in part or in total and got away with it for two years, and went to the extent of faking business cards, websites, email addresses and such for his sources. It's played with, however, in that his stories as published are immensely convincing; however, when his editor Charles Lane starts [[PullTheThread pulling the thread]] and confronting him about his stories face to face he immediately turns sweaty, whining and unconvincing, relying on {{Lame Excuse}}s and [[WoundedGazelleGambit playing the victim]].
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*** Not entirely subverted. She can't fool LivingLieDetectors who have a supernatural ability to tell lies, but she fools pretty much everyone else - including the king of the armored bears, who is supposed to be a LivingLieDetector himself. It's that feat which earns her that title.
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Obviously, this is a handy talent for a villain to have if the hero group has a LivingLieDetector, although it can also come in quite handy for a hero who needs to fool the villain for a change. For obvious reasons, it is particularly useful if the LivingLieDetector believes that his or her ability is working, when it fact it is not. Conversely, a more [[MagnificentBastard flamboyant and audacious] ConsummateLiar might make blatantly false or contradictory statements to the LivingLieDetector just to show off. Will also use SelfServingMemory if it will suit his/her needs.

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Obviously, this is a handy talent for a villain to have if the hero group has a LivingLieDetector, although it can also come in quite handy for a hero who needs to fool the villain for a change. For obvious reasons, it is particularly useful if the LivingLieDetector believes that his or her ability is working, when it fact it is not. Conversely, a more [[MagnificentBastard flamboyant and audacious] audacious]] ConsummateLiar might make blatantly false or contradictory statements to the LivingLieDetector just to show off. Will also use SelfServingMemory if it will suit his/her needs.
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Obviously, this is a handy talent for a villain to have if the hero group has a LivingLieDetector, although it can also come in quite handy for a hero who needs to fool the villain for a change. For obvious reasons, it is particularly useful if the LivingLieDetector believes that his or her ability is working, when it fact it is not. Will also use SelfServingMemory if it will suit his/her needs.

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Obviously, this is a handy talent for a villain to have if the hero group has a LivingLieDetector, although it can also come in quite handy for a hero who needs to fool the villain for a change. For obvious reasons, it is particularly useful if the LivingLieDetector believes that his or her ability is working, when it fact it is not. Conversely, a more [[MagnificentBastard flamboyant and audacious] ConsummateLiar might make blatantly false or contradictory statements to the LivingLieDetector just to show off. Will also use SelfServingMemory if it will suit his/her needs.
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** On the other hand, it's pointed out that everyone assumes pirates to be this trope ''anyway.'' And while Jack is good at it, what truly makes him so effective a liar is the fact that he's telling the truth half the time. He [[{{LampshadeHanging}} lampshades]] this in the second movie.
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* A crossover between ''{{Daredevil}}'' and ''{{Batman}}'' noted that Batman's heartbeat never changes based on his thoughts or intentions, leaving Daredevil unable to tell if he's bluffing or what he's thinking. On the other hand, it also makes it ''really'' easy for Daredevil to identify Batman's secret identity, as his heartbeat is described as "wardrum" and slightly slower than it should be.
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* In the ''InheritanceCycle'', the Ancient Language carries the caveat that one cannot tell a lie while speaking it. The Elves speak it fluently, and so have the reputation of never telling a lie. Brom warns Eragon in the first book that this means that most of them have mastered the art of being Truth Twisters. Eragon tries his hand at this in the second book; when someone who broke his heart asks him (in the Language) how he is now, he tells her that he is "better than [he] was", referring to his healed back.

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* In the ''InheritanceCycle'', the Ancient Language carries the caveat that one cannot tell a lie while speaking it.it (because anything you say becomes true; this is how magic is performed, though it draws on your life force so the more outrageous, the more likely it will kill you trying to come true). The Elves speak it fluently, and so have the reputation of never telling a lie. Brom warns Eragon in the first book that this means that most of them have mastered the art of being Truth Twisters. Eragon tries his hand at this in the second book; when someone who broke his heart asks him (in the Language) how he is now, he tells her that he is "better than [he] was", referring to his healed back.
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* The catholic order of the Jesuites became infamous for this. They developed a special mental technique to work around the "Thou shalt not lie" commandment, which worked like this: A Jesuit who was on a mission in a Protestant country (where they were forbidden for obvious reasons) who was asked "Are you a Jesuit?" was supposed to think of a specific Jesuit in Brussels (f.e.) and say "No, I am not ''a'' Jesuit" (as in "not that specific one" - true, but not what the asker had meant - "Are you a Jesuit in general?")

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* The catholic Catholic order of the Jesuites became infamous for this. They developed a special mental technique to work around the "Thou shalt not lie" commandment, which worked like this: A Jesuit who was on a mission in a Protestant country (where they were forbidden for obvious reasons) who was asked "Are you a Jesuit?" was supposed to think of a specific Jesuit in Brussels (f.e.) and say "No, I am not ''a'' Jesuit" (as in "not that specific one" - true, but not what the asker had meant - "Are you a Jesuit in general?")
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** Schneizel is a consummate Truth Twister, which becomes brutally evident [[spoiler:when he turns the Black Knights against Lelouch]].
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* The catholic order of the Jesuites became infamous for this. They developed a special mental technique to work around the "Thou shalt not lie" commandment, which worked like this: A Jesuit who was on a mission in a Protestant country (where they were forbidden for obvious reasons) who was asked "Are you a Jesuit?" was supposed to think of a specific Jesuit in Brussels (f.e.) and say "No, I am not ''a'' Jesuit" (as in "not that specific one" - true, but not what the asker had meant - "Are you a Jesuit in general?")
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'''Revolver Ocelot:''' * shrugs* Practice.

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'''Revolver Ocelot:''' * shrugs* *shrugs* Practice.
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--> "Me? I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid." – Captain Jack Sparrow

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--> [[BewareTheHonestOnes "Me? I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid." "]] – Captain Jack Sparrow
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* While [[{{Superman}} Supes]] in ''LoisAndClark'' lies daily to cover up his identity, he's not very good at it (remember all the INeedToGoIronMyDog excuses?). When hooked up to a polygraph to find out the identity of Superman, he uses his powers to make true answers appear to be lies (e.g. blowing on the needles or levitating and dropping his chair). It gets a little hairy when the interrogator asks baseline questions, and one of them is "Are you Superman?". Clark answers "Yes" as he's supposed to, causing the interrogator to examine his equipment for malfunctions when the needles don't move.



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* In HarryHarrison's ''TheStainlessSteelRat for President'', [[LovableRogue Jim]] is trying to topple a corrupt president of a tourist planet. He walks into a police station full of {{Dirty Cop}}s and offers to make a deal (a ploy, obviously). DaChief takes him to the interrogation room, where he sits him down. Jim starts talking a bunch of BS and offers to take a LieDetector test to prove it. He is calmly informed that he chair he's sitting on ''is'' a lie detector. Jim immediately changes his tactic and starts telling partial truths. Before, he was simply lying through his teeth without feeling nervous. After all, he is a professional thief and con man.
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* [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The title character]] of StephenFry's ''The Liar''. (Who's an AuthorAvatar of the teenage Fry. [[IGotBetter He Got Better]].)

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* [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The title character]] of StephenFry's ''The Liar''. (Who's an AuthorAvatar of the teenage Fry. [[IGotBetter He Got Better]].got better.)
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* Lampshaded to an extent in ''LawrenceOfArabia''; where Dryden (Claude Rains) responds to T.E. Lawrence's (Peter O'Toole) outburst that "There may be honour among theives, but there is none among polititians!" by noting, "If we've told lies, you've told half-lies. And the man who tells lies, like me, merely hides the truth. But the man who tells half-lies ''has forgotten where he put it''."

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* Lampshaded to an extent in ''LawrenceOfArabia''; where Dryden (Claude Rains) (ClaudeRains) responds to T.E. Lawrence's (Peter O'Toole) outburst that "There may be honour among theives, thieves, but there is none among polititians!" by noting, "If we've told lies, you've told half-lies. And the man who tells lies, like me, merely hides the truth. But the man who tells half-lies ''has forgotten where he put it''."
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'''Sikozu''':Yes I can, Chiana. We all can.
'''Chiana''': Oh yeah? How do you know?
'''Sikozu''': You open your mouth, and words come out.

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'''Sikozu''':Yes -->'''Sikozu''':Yes I can, Chiana. We all can.
'''Chiana''': -->'''Chiana''': Oh yeah? How do you know?
'''Sikozu''': -->'''Sikozu''': You open your mouth, and words come out.
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** Chiana often thinks this of herself, but is seldom successful.
-->'''Chiana''':How could you tell if they were lying? You can't even tell when I'm lying.
'''Sikozu''':Yes I can, Chiana. We all can.
'''Chiana''': Oh yeah? How do you know?
'''Sikozu''': You open your mouth, and words come out.
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** He can tell a half truth though. For instance, if he injures himself, and is asked who assaulted him, he can give a vague description of himself without giving away that it is self inflicted.

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-->'''Azula:''' I'm a flying pink elephant.
** This also leads her to say, "I am a four-hundred foot purple platypus bear with pink horns and silver wings."

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-->'''Azula:''' I'm a flying pink elephant.
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* The Yozis in ''{{Exalted}}'' include the Ebon Dragon. He's essentially the cosmic principle of betrayal and self-interest given form, and is incapable of taking actions that help others more than they help him. [[JustThatGood He's also managed to persuade the other Yozis to put him in charge of their attempt to escape their prison.]]
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* [[{{LiarGame}} Akiyama]] does this so well that he can bring down entire corporations. Sure, he got tossed in j@����ÏÏð<Ÿ���t still...

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* [[{{LiarGame}} Akiyama]] does this so well that he can bring down entire corporations. Sure, he got tossed [[spoiler:tossed in j@����ÏÏð<Ÿ���t jail]], but still...
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** There is only ONE person who he never lies to [[spoiler:(C.C.)]] in the entire anime, and the only reason he's ever caught is because he's the universe's chew toy.
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** Turns out he even lies in JOKES. When he's reading [[spoiler:in an airplane he knows will crash]], Jack asks him how he can read in this situation. Ben replies with the joke that he assumes Jack literally asks how he can read, and says "My mother taught me". That isn't even true since his mother [[DeathByChildbirth died giving birth to him]].

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** Turns out he even lies in JOKES. When he's reading [[spoiler:in an airplane he knows will crash]], Jack asks him how he can read in this situation. Ben replies with the joke that he assumes Jack literally asks how he can read, and says "My mother taught me". That isn't even true since his mother [[DeathByChildbirth died giving birth to him]]. Later, he sarcastically gives out his star sign (pisces) in response to a question, something that fans deduced to also be false.
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* In Randall Garrett's story ''The Best Policy'', the human protagonist is interrogated under a lie detector by aliens gathering intelligence for an invasion. He realizes that he can exploit their ignorance with [[LiteralGenie true but misleading statements]] (e.g. he says that human minds are capable of channeling certain physical energies to travel from place to place -- a literal description of walking that gives the impression that humans have the power of psychic teleportation). By the end of the questioning, he has them believing that humans are [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens incredibly powerful beings]] and that he's only [[PlayAlongPrisoner humoring them them to be polite]].

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* In Randall Garrett's story ''The Best Policy'', the human protagonist is interrogated under a lie detector by aliens gathering intelligence for an invasion. He realizes that he can exploit their ignorance with [[LiteralGenie [[ExactWords true but misleading statements]] (e.g. he says that human minds are capable of channeling certain physical energies to travel from place to place -- a literal description of walking that gives the impression that humans have the power of psychic teleportation). By the end of the questioning, he has them believing that humans are [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens incredibly powerful beings]] and that he's only [[PlayAlongPrisoner humoring them them to be polite]].
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* [[{{DeathNote}} Light Yagami]] pulls this off on Raye Penber ''and'' his fiance, Naomi Misora. End result: heart attack and ''suicide'', respectively. Actually given his track record, it's easier to [[IncrediblyLamePun Note]] who he didn't succeed with: [[spoiler:Just one single character - Near]].

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* [[{{DeathNote}} Light Yagami]] pulls this off on Raye Penber ''and'' his fiance, Naomi Misora. End result: heart attack and ''suicide'', respectively. Actually given his track record, it's easier to [[IncrediblyLamePun Note]] who he didn't succeed with: [[spoiler:Just one single character - [[spoiler:L, Rem, Aizawa, Mello, Near]].

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