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*Played with in {{''Fullmetal Alchemist''}}. Father is smart, but his minions the homunculi have varying degrees of intelligence - for instance, Lust is smart, Gluttony is an idiot, and Envy and Wrath are mostly smart but [[WhatAnIdiot sometimes make bad decisions]].
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* ''OnePiece'': Monkey D. Luffy is easily one of the dumbest members of the crew. On the other hand he ''is'' smart enough to collect reasonably talented and intelligent {{Nakama}} to offset this.
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* ''OnePiece'': Monkey D. Luffy is easily one of the dumbest members of the crew. On the other hand he ''is'' smart enough to collect reasonably talented and intelligent {{Nakama}} TrueCompanions to offset this.
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* Lieutenant Colonel Henry Blake of ''[[{{Ptitleg61am70o3b3w}} M*A*S*H]]'' would never have gotten by without people like Hawkeye and [[HypercompetentSidekick Radar]] around.
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* Lieutenant Colonel Henry Blake of ''[[{{Ptitleg61am70o3b3w}} ''[[Series/{{Mash}} M*A*S*H]]'' would never have gotten by without people like Hawkeye and [[HypercompetentSidekick Radar]] around.
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* ''TheEmperorsNewGroove'': Yzma is smart, Kronk is dumb.
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* ''TheEmperorsNewGroove'': ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove'': Yzma is smart, Kronk is dumb.
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*** A prime example of this was their second ever onscreen interaction: Jessie and James are trapped on an island (and separated from Meowth and their other Pokémon) with only a payphone as communication. Seeing as they have no money, they decide to collect call their boss. After being greeted by a grumpy Giovanni warning them that whoever is calling better have a good reason for making him spend money on the call, Jessie and James are [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to start reciting their motto. Cue Giovanni hanging up wondering who the hell those idiots were.
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** [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Or is he?]]
*** Yes, he is. He says very explicitly in the Arlong arc that because he knows there are a lot of things he can't do, he makes friends so that they can help him with those things.
*** Yes, he is. He says very explicitly in the Arlong arc that because he knows there are a lot of things he can't do, he makes friends so that they can help him with those things.
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* Oddly enforced in some real military organizations. Everyone in a certian group--usually of a certian rank or graduating class--is rated based on performance, and put in order from best to worst. Now, normally it would seem fairest to award assignments based on merit: the #1 performer gets the job she wants, and the worst performer gets put where no-one else wants to go. This leads to a problem: The place no-one wants to go gets all the bad performers, and then that organization does worse work, leading even fewer people to want to go there, leading to even worse work. To prevent this, the organization distributes its incompetence: the group is split into 3rds: top, bottom, and middle. These are then ranked. The top of each category gets the job they asked for; the bottom of each gets put where they're needed. While it may not be entirely fair to the "middling" performers, this ensures that every organization gets a mix of good and bad people and prevents any one place from having a large group of abysmal performers.
* Oddly enforced in some real military organizations. Everyone in a certian group--usually of a certian rank or graduating class--is rated based on performance, and put in order from best to worst. Now, normally it would seem fairest to award assignments based on merit: the #1 performer gets the job she wants, and the worst performer gets put where no-one else wants to go. This leads to a problem: The place no-one wants to go gets all the bad performers, and then that organization does worse work, leading even fewer people to want to go there, leading to even worse work. To prevent this, the organization distributes its incompetence: the group is split into 3rds: top, bottom, and middle. These are then ranked. The top of each category gets the job they asked for; the bottom of each gets put where they're needed. While it may not be entirely fair to the "middling" performers, this ensures that every organization gets a mix of good and bad people and prevents any one place from having a large group of abysmal performers.
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* [[OnePiece Monkey D. Luffy]] is easily one of the dumbest members of the crew. On the other hand he ''is'' smart enough to collect reasonably talented and intelligent {{Nakama}} to offset this.
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* [[OnePiece ''OnePiece'': Monkey D. Luffy]] Luffy is easily one of the dumbest members of the crew. On the other hand he ''is'' smart enough to collect reasonably talented and intelligent {{Nakama}} to offset this.
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* The Monarch and his minions from ''The Venture Brothers'' on Adult Swim are a classic example. The minions seem much more savvy than The Monarch himself, and so does The Monarch's girlfriend, Dr. Girlfriend.
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* The Monarch and his minions from ''The Venture Brothers'' on Adult Swim are a classic example. The minions seem much more savvy than The Monarch himself, and so does The Monarch's girlfriend, Dr. Girlfriend. The Monarch isn't so much incompetent than just obsessed with being Rusty Venture's nemesis above all else.
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* ''Disney/TheLionKing'': Scar is smart, the hyenas are dumb.
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* ''Disney/TheLionKing'': ''TheLionKing'': Scar is smart, the hyenas are dumb.
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* Duke Igthorne and his ogres in Disney's GummiBears. His right-hand ogre, Toadstool, is the smartest of the bunch, and is still barely more intelligent than the furniture.
* The Monarch and his minions from "The Venture Brothers" on Adult Swim are a classic example. The minions seem much more savvy than The Monarch himself, and so does The Monarch's girlfriend, Dr. Girlfriend.
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* Duke Igthorne and his ogres in Disney's GummiBears.''GummiBears''. His right-hand ogre, Toadstool, is the smartest of the bunch, and is still barely more intelligent than the furniture.
* The Monarch and his minions from"The ''The Venture Brothers" Brothers'' on Adult Swim are a classic example. The minions seem much more savvy than The Monarch himself, and so does The Monarch's girlfriend, Dr. Girlfriend.
* In ''TheAdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'', Scratch and Grounder (and sometimes Coconuts, as well) are Dr. Robotnik's incompetent lackeys, who he only keeps around because he's too cheap to build anything more reliable. Of course, [[FlowersForAlgernonSyndrome Grounder once proved that, were he more intelligent, he could be a far greater threat than his creator.]]
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* In ''TheAdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'', Scratch and Grounder (and sometimes Coconuts, as well) are Dr. Robotnik's incompetent lackeys, who he only keeps around because he's too cheap to build anything more reliable. Of course, [[FlowersForAlgernonSyndrome Grounder once proved that, were he more intelligent, he could be a far greater threat than his creator.]]
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* LadyAndTheTramp: Aunt Sarah is dumb, the siamese cats are smart.
* SleepingBeauty: Maleficent is smart, her ogre minions are dumb.
* [[Disney/RobinHood Robin Hood]]: Prince John is dumb, the Sheriff of Nottingham is smart.
* {{Aladdin}}: Jafar is smart, Iago is dumb.
* SleepingBeauty: Maleficent is smart, her ogre minions are dumb.
* [[Disney/RobinHood Robin Hood]]: Prince John is dumb, the Sheriff of Nottingham is smart.
* {{Aladdin}}: Jafar is smart, Iago is dumb.
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* LadyAndTheTramp: ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp'': Aunt Sarah is dumb, the siamese cats are smart.
*SleepingBeauty: ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'': Maleficent is smart, her ogre minions are dumb.
*[[Disney/RobinHood Robin Hood]]: ''Disney/RobinHood'': Prince John is dumb, the Sheriff of Nottingham is smart.
*{{Aladdin}}: ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'': Jafar is smart, Iago is dumb.
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* TheLionKing: Scar is smart, the hyenas are dumb.
* [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hercules]]: Hades is smart, Pain and Panic are dumb.
* TheEmperorsNewGroove: Yzma is smart, Kronk is dumb.
* [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hercules]]: Hades is smart, Pain and Panic are dumb.
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* TheLionKing: ''Disney/TheLionKing'': Scar is smart, the hyenas are dumb.
*[[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hercules]]: ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'': Hades is smart, Pain and Panic are dumb.
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* Startlingly averted in ''{{Mulan}},'' where both Shan Yu ''and'' his lieutenants are smart and scary.
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** Of course, Blake was actually a highly competent surgeon, he was just a incompetent administrator. [[TheNeidermeyer Frank Burns,]] on the other hand...
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* In Pucca, Tobe is a very good ninja and has very good plans sometimes, but he would achieve more alone than with his ninjas.
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* In Pucca, ''{{Pucca}}'', Tobe is a very good ninja and has very good plans sometimes, but he would achieve more alone than with his ninjas.
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* In ''Pucca'', Tobe is a very good ninja and has very good plans sometimes, but he would achieve more alone than with his ninjas.
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* In ''Pucca'', Tobe is a very good ninja and has very good plans sometimes, but he would achieve more alone than with his ninjas.
* In ''Pucca'', Tobe is a very good ninja and has very good plans sometimes, but he would achieve more alone than with his ninjas.
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** There's also the fact that Cyrus is a [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking far better trainer than the average grunts.]] The final fight with him in Platinum is easily [[ThatOneBoss one of the hardest battles of the game.]]
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** Also a feature present in every game since the first generation: the fewer mons a trainer has, the more high-leveled they will be.
*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two Pokémon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full team of six will take longer. Also, in a double battle (or anytime two or more Pokémon are used to battle one opponent), the total experience points are divided up amongst the victor's Pokémon, thus, a Pokémon who battles alone gets all the experience points but having two battle means each one only gets half of the points. Which means that ConservationOfCompetence (or battle experience) is part of the innate game mechanics!
*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two Pokémon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full team of six will take longer. Also, in a double battle (or anytime two or more Pokémon are used to battle one opponent), the total experience points are divided up amongst the victor's Pokémon, thus, a Pokémon who battles alone gets all the experience points but having two battle means each one only gets half of the points. Which means that ConservationOfCompetence (or battle experience) is part of the innate game mechanics!
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* The Monarch and his minions from "The Venture Brothers" on Adult Swim are a classic example. The minions seem much more savvy than The Monarch himself, and so does The Monarch's girlfriend, Dr. Girlfriend.
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*** If you think about it though, this trope applies when looking at every game in itself. In the aforemented example with with members of the Scarlet Devil Mansion, you have the {{Baka}} Cirno, Daiyousei, and Rumia to offset the competence of the others.
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** Thoroughly averted when Colonel Potter comes on board.
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*** A prime example of this was their second ever onscreen interaction: Jessie and James trapped on an island (and separated from Meowth and their other Pokémon) with only a payphone as communication. Seeing as they have no money, they decide to collect call their boss. After being greeted by a grumpy Giovanni warning them that whoever is calling better have a good reason for making him spend money on the call, Jessie and James are [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to start reciting their motto. Cue Giovanni hanging up wondering who the hell those idiots were.
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*** A prime example of this was their second ever onscreen interaction: Jessie and James are trapped on an island (and separated from Meowth and their other Pokémon) with only a payphone as communication. Seeing as they have no money, they decide to collect call their boss. After being greeted by a grumpy Giovanni warning them that whoever is calling better have a good reason for making him spend money on the call, Jessie and James are [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to start reciting their motto. Cue Giovanni hanging up wondering who the hell those idiots were.
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* The ''[[{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Pokemon]]'' anime gives us the presumably competent Giovanni, whose subordinates are the one and only TeamRocket.
** In fairness, Jessie, James and Meowth aren't his only operatives. In terms of the trope, this may explain much. Apparently, it's been so long since he actually commanded them, he's completely forgotten about our three idiots.
*** A prime example of this was their first onscreen interaction: Team Rocket is trapped on an island with only a payphone as communication. Seeing as they have no money, they decide to collect call their boss. After being greeted by a grumpy Giovanni warning them that whoever is calling better have a good reason for making him spend money on the call, Jessie and James are [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to start reciting their motto. Cue Giovanni hanging up wondering who the hell those idiots were.
** In fairness, Jessie, James and Meowth aren't his only operatives. In terms of the trope, this may explain much. Apparently, it's been so long since he actually commanded them, he's completely forgotten about our three idiots.
*** A prime example of this was their first onscreen interaction: Team Rocket is trapped on an island with only a payphone as communication. Seeing as they have no money, they decide to collect call their boss. After being greeted by a grumpy Giovanni warning them that whoever is calling better have a good reason for making him spend money on the call, Jessie and James are [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to start reciting their motto. Cue Giovanni hanging up wondering who the hell those idiots were.
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* The ''[[{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Pokemon]]'' Pokémon]]'' anime gives us the presumably competent Giovanni, whose subordinates are the one and only TeamRocket.
TeamRocket trio.
** In all fairness, Jessie, James and Meowth aren't his only operatives. In terms of the trope, this may explain much. Apparently, it's been so long since he actually commanded them, he's completely forgotten about our threeidiots.
lovable losers.
*** A prime example of this was theirfirst second ever onscreen interaction: Team Rocket is Jessie and James trapped on an island (and separated from Meowth and their other Pokémon) with only a payphone as communication. Seeing as they have no money, they decide to collect call their boss. After being greeted by a grumpy Giovanni warning them that whoever is calling better have a good reason for making him spend money on the call, Jessie and James are [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to start reciting their motto. Cue Giovanni hanging up wondering who the hell those idiots were.
** In all fairness, Jessie, James and Meowth aren't his only operatives. In terms of the trope, this may explain much. Apparently, it's been so long since he actually commanded them, he's completely forgotten about our three
*** A prime example of this was their
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* The ''[[{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Pokemon Diamond and Pearl]]'' (and especially ''Platinum'') video games give us the rather intimidating Cyrus at the head of Team Galactic. The low-level flunkies don't have the slightest idea what the Big Evil Plan even ''is.''
** Also a feature present in every game since the first gen : the fewer mons a trainer has, the more high-levelled they will be.
*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two Pokemon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full group of 6 will take longer. Also, in a double battle (or anytime two or more Pokemon are used to battle one opponent), the total experience points are divided up amongst the victor's Pokemon, thus, a Pokemon who battles alone gets all the experience points but having two battle means each one only gets half of the points. Which means that ConservationOfCompetence (or battle experience) is part of the innate game mechanics!
* The ''[[{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Pokemon Diamond and Pearl]]'' (and especially ''Platinum'') video games give us the rather intimidating Cyrus at the head of Team Galactic. The low-level flunkies don't have the slightest idea what the Big Evil Plan even ''is.''
** Also a feature present in every game since the first gen : the fewer mons a trainer has, the more high-levelled they will be.
*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two Pokemon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full group of 6 will take longer. Also, in a double battle (or anytime two or more Pokemon are used to battle one opponent), the total experience points are divided up amongst the victor's Pokemon, thus, a Pokemon who battles alone gets all the experience points but having two battle means each one only gets half of the points. Which means that ConservationOfCompetence (or battle experience) is part of the innate game mechanics!
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*The ''[[{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Pokemon Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]]'' (and especially ''Platinum'') video games give us the rather intimidating Cyrus at the head of Team Galactic. The His low-level flunkies don't have the slightest idea what the Big Evil Plan even ''is.''
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*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or twoPokemon Pokémon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full group team of 6 six will take longer. Also, in a double battle (or anytime two or more Pokemon Pokémon are used to battle one opponent), the total experience points are divided up amongst the victor's Pokemon, Pokémon, thus, a Pokemon Pokémon who battles alone gets all the experience points but having two battle means each one only gets half of the points. Which means that ConservationOfCompetence (or battle experience) is part of the innate game mechanics!
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** Also a feature present in every game since the first
*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two
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** Iago wasn't dumb. He was a loud, obnoxious {{Chewtoy}}, but he was also a rather GenreSavvy DeadpanSnarker, not to mention a [[ManipulativeBastard consummate manipulator.]] A better example, from the [[PilotMovie first sequel]] and the [[TheSeries animated series,]] is [[MeaningfulName Abis Mal]], who, whether leading a gang of bandits who are smarter than him or being the semi-willing pawn of an evil genie who's smarter than he is, is pretty much guaranteed to be more of a liability than an asset.
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*** Yes, he is. He says very explicitly in the Arlong arc that because he knows there are a lot of things he can't do, he makes friends so that they can help him with those things.
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* ''[[GilligansIsland Gilligan's Island]]''. Only one person in any given episode could be competent. Not always the same person, either. Of course if ''[[JustEatGilligan they were competent]]'' they'd be off the island. So, yeah.
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* ''[[GilligansIsland Gilligan's Island]]''. Only one person in any given episode could be competent. Not always the same person, either. Of course if ''[[JustEatGilligan [[JustEatGilligan they were competent]]'' competent]] they'd be off the island. So, yeah.
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* ''[[GilligansIsland Gilligan's Island]]''. Only one person in any given episode could be competent. Not always the same person, either. Of course if ''[[JustEatGilligan they were competent competent]]'' they'd be off the island. So, yeah.
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*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two Pokemon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full group of 6 will take longer, mainly because if, for example, two Pokemon are used in the duration of a battle, each one will only get half the total experience points given out for defeating the enemy Pokemon, whereas if only one was used, that one Pokemon would receive all the allotted experience points.
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*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two Pokemon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full group of 6 will take longer, mainly because if, for example, longer. Also, in a double battle (or anytime two or more Pokemon are used in the duration of a battle, each to battle one will only get half opponent), the total experience points given out for defeating are divided up amongst the enemy victor's Pokemon, whereas if only one was used, that one thus, a Pokemon would receive who battles alone gets all the allotted experience points. points but having two battle means each one only gets half of the points. Which means that ConservationOfCompetence (or battle experience) is part of the innate game mechanics!
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*** That may simply be reflecting the fact that having just one or two Pokemon makes it easier to level them up faster, while a full group of 6 will take longer, mainly because if, for example, two Pokemon are used in the duration of a battle, each one will only get half the total experience points given out for defeating the enemy Pokemon, whereas if only one was used, that one Pokemon would receive all the allotted experience points.
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Disney ''loves'' this trope for its villains.
* LadyAndTheTramp: Aunt Sarah is dumb, the siamese cats are smart.
* SleepingBeauty: Maleficent is smart, her ogre minions are dumb.
* [[Disney/RobinHood Robin Hood]]: Prince John is dumb, the Sheriff of Nottingham is smart.
* {{Aladdin}}: Jafar is smart, Iago is dumb.
* TheLionKing: Scar is smart, the hyenas are dumb.
* [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hercules]]: Hades is smart, Pain and Panic are dumb.
* TheEmperorsNewGroove: Yzma is smart, Kronk is dumb.
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