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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' is a lot more interested in how sad it is that Locke failed to protect Rachel than in sympathising with a girl who lost her memory in an accident, unknowingly turned down the man she loved, regained her memory of him just before she was seriously injured in an attack on her town by the Empire, and is now being kept in a magically-induced coma in Locke's basement, never to age or wake.
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' is a lot more interested in how sad it is that Locke failed to protect Rachel than in sympathising with a girl who lost her memory in an accident, unknowingly turned down the man she loved, regained her memory of him just before she was seriously injured in an attack on her town by the Empire, and is now being kept in a magically-induced coma in Locke's basement, never to age or wake.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''' ''I Am the Night'' is all about Batman's distress about Commissionner Gordon being wounded on the field. So much that Gordon himself and his daughter are the ones who reconfort him and Bullock is clearly expected to be viewed as incredibly mean for chastising him.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''' ''I Am the Night'' is all about Batman's distress about Commissionner Gordon being wounded on the field. So much that Gordon himself and his daughter are the ones who reconfort comfort him and Bullock is clearly expected to be viewed as incredibly mean for chastising him.
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* Shippy fanfic in general loves this trope, especially if a BodyguardCrush is involved.
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* In ''Creator/CoriFall'''s fic ''The Thorns of the Rose'', Jessie is triggered by memories of her previous abusive relationship during a vacation, and throws herself into work to distract herself. The story is told from James's point of view and focuses on his increasing angst and the fear that Jessie's stopped loving him.
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* In ''Creator/CoriFall'''s ''Creator/CoriFalls'''s fic ''The Thorns of the Rose'', Jessie is triggered by memories of her previous abusive relationship during a vacation, and throws herself into work to distract herself. The story is told from James's point of view and focuses on his increasing angst and the fear that Jessie's stopped loving him.
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* In ''Creator/CoriFall'''s fic ''The Thorns of the Rose'', Jessie is triggered by memories of her previous abusive relationship during a vacation, and throws herself into work to distract herself. The story is told from James's point of view and focuses on his increasing angst and the fear that Jessie's stopped loving him.
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* Most people feel soooo bad for [[ClassicalMythology Hercules]] when he accidentally kills his wife [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/megara.html Megara]][[note]]whose actual death depends on the version, some she escaped and/or married Hercules' nephew Iolaus afterward[[/note]] and their children.
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* Most people feel soooo bad for [[ClassicalMythology [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Hercules]] when he accidentally kills his wife [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/megara.html Megara]][[note]]whose actual death depends on the version, some she escaped and/or married Hercules' nephew Iolaus afterward[[/note]] and their children.
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Someone's in trouble. The type of trouble can vary enormously -- they could have been brutally attacked, recently bereaved, or blaming themselves for a catastrophe they couldn't stop. So now they're laid up in hospital with half their body in plaster, or mid-HeroicBSOD. Even the most cynical of viewers can't blame the poor soul for going a bit {{Emo}}.
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Someone's in trouble. The type of trouble can vary enormously -- they could have been brutally attacked, recently bereaved, or blaming themselves for a catastrophe they couldn't stop. So now they're laid up in hospital with half their body in plaster, or mid-HeroicBSOD. Even the most cynical of viewers can't blame the poor soul for going a bit {{Emo}}.
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The only glimmer of hope for a "damage victim" is that they are important characters in their own right. Once they have recovered, things will be business as usual. It could be worse. If the wronged party isn't just injured, but dies in a particularly pointless way for the main character to angst over, they were probably StuffedIntoTheFridge. Someone who is living, breathing CollateralAngst - to the point the reader/viewer wonders if they're ever out of the hospital - and has little plot importance or characterisation beyond that is a DisposableWoman. Of course, [[AlwaysFemale two X-chromosomes are required]] to qualify. [[GenderFlip Usually]].
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* Both Kisa and Rin are viciously attacked by Akito in ''Manga/FruitsBasket''. Rin in particular is badly injured after being pushed out of an upper floor window. However, both girls seem to discount these events in their catalogue of tragedies. Kisa is more worried about the bullying she suffers at school, while Rin desperately searches for a cure to the Sohma curse in between hospital visits. Their love interests, Hiro and Hatsuharu respectively, on the other hand, angst constantly about their failure to protect their girlfriends. Hiro especially sees his inability to stand up to Akito and prevent the attack as an insult to his masculine pride and proof that he is unworthy of Kisa.
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** When his best friend, Ben, is diagnosed with leukaemia, Dr. Cox doesn't cope well. Ben, in a rare subversion, actually calls him on this behaviour, pointing out that he's the one with the disease, and could use his friend's help rather than having to cope with Cox's issues.
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** When his best friend, Ben, is diagnosed with leukaemia, Dr. Cox doesn't cope well. Ben, in a rare subversion, actually calls him on this behaviour, pointing out that he's the one with the disease, and could use his friend's help rather than having to cope with Cox's issues.
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* Creator/DavidWeber makes a point of using this with his character deaths; the focus is almost always on the pain of the dead character's surviving friends and family. This is part of a larger, overarching WarIsHell aesop, in which Weber makes damned sure to remind his readers that no matter how noble or necessary a death might be, it's still going to hurt like hell for the people left behind. A prime example occurs in ''[[Literature/HonorHarrington At All Costs]]'': losing [[spoiler:Javier Giscard]] in battle hurts like hell, as is par for the course for Weber, but the ''real'' agony is in [[spoiler:his lover Eloise Pritchart]]'s reaction to losing [[spoiler:the man who was essentially her husband in all but name]]. (The reaction in question is, of course, an utterly broken heart.)
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* Hermione's rape in ''Fanfic/InThisWorldAndTheNext'' is very similar, in that it happens solely to motivate Harry to kill the perpetrator (a literal RonTheDeathEater) and is never mentioned after the first chapter, and Hermione's own reaction to it is never explored.
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* Hermione's rape in ''Fanfic/InThisWorldAndTheNext'' is very similar, in that it happens solely to motivate Harry to kill the perpetrator (a literal RonTheDeathEater) and is never barely mentioned after the first chapter, and Hermione's own reaction to it is never explored.
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* A big part of JodiPicoult's ''Literature/HandleWithCare'' is the fact that while Willow is physically injured for most of the book (she has brittle bone disease), it's her mother, Charlotte, that does all the angsting -- and it's her mother's lawsuit that threatens the family, not Willow's disease. Even Charlotte is forced to realise that the court case she's set in motion is more about herself that Willow.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''' ''I Am the Night'' is all about Batman's distress about Commissionner Gordon being wounded on the field. So much that Gordon himself and his daughter are the ones who reconfort him and Bullock is clearly expected to be viewed as incredibly mean for chastising him.
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* Most people feel soooo bad for [[ClassicalMythology Hercules]] when he accidentally kills his wife and children. The actual wife and children who've just been brutally beaten to death, of course, are generally unnamed.
** Actually, this wife's name was [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/megara.html Megara]].
** And there's some doubt about whether Megara was killed. Some versions of that myth say that she escaped and/or married Hercules' nephew Iolaus afterward. But the trope still applies, for her grief for her dead children? It's never mentioned at all.
** Actually, this wife's name was [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/megara.html Megara]].
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* Most people feel soooo bad for [[ClassicalMythology Hercules]] when he accidentally kills his wife and children. The actual wife and children who've just been brutally beaten to death, of course, are generally unnamed.
** Actually, this wife's name was[[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/megara.html Megara]].
** And there'sMegara]][[note]]whose actual death depends on the version, some doubt about whether Megara was killed. Some versions of that myth say that she escaped and/or married Hercules' nephew Iolaus afterward. But the trope still applies, for her grief for her dead children? It's never mentioned at all.
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The real point of the story isn't "the victim was attacked" but "look how protective/self-loathing/angsty/loving the victim's friend is." The scenario is set up for the friend to get CharacterFocus. The person who was hurt is CollateralAngst.[[TitleDrop Collateral Angst]].
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* The ''Franchise/GreenLantern'' plot arc where Kyle Rayner's assistant Terry Berg gets gay bashed focused more on Kyle dealing with the angst of such a thing happening to his best friend, tracking down the assailants and scaring the bejeesus out of them, and eventually deciding that he was running out of faith in humanity and taking off for the stars. All while Terry, the one who actually got attacked, lay in traction.
* One of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'s problems with DC's ''IdentityCrisis'': Sue Dibny is raped, but the story completely ignores the issue of how the attack affects her in favour of focusing on how it affects ''everyone else''. He goes on to point out the the comic's multiple narrators are all men, so while rape as a plot device (Linkara argues) is used by bad writers as "a thing that happens to women", an actual woman's take on the attack isn't provided, let alone the victim's own experience. [[http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/34012-15-things-that-are-wrong-with-identity-crisis Here's the episode]] for more details.
* One of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'s problems with DC's ''IdentityCrisis'': Sue Dibny is raped, but the story completely ignores the issue of how the attack affects her in favour of focusing on how it affects ''everyone else''. He goes on to point out the the comic's multiple narrators are all men, so while rape as a plot device (Linkara argues) is used by bad writers as "a thing that happens to women", an actual woman's take on the attack isn't provided, let alone the victim's own experience. [[http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/34012-15-things-that-are-wrong-with-identity-crisis Here's the episode]] for more details.
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* One of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'s problems with DC's''IdentityCrisis'': ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'': Sue Dibny is raped, but the story completely ignores the issue of how the attack affects her in favour of focusing on how it affects ''everyone else''. He goes on to point out the the comic's multiple narrators are all men, so while rape as a plot device (Linkara argues) is used by bad writers as "a thing that happens to women", an actual woman's take on the attack isn't provided, let alone the victim's own experience. [[http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/34012-15-things-that-are-wrong-with-identity-crisis Here's the episode]] for more details.
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* * Manga/SailorMoon's ''Stars'' arc (manga version) demotes the Senshi so that instead of being a formidable team, they exist only to get into dire straits and we can see how heroic Usagi is as she copes with such tragedy. Other arcs do this to a lesser extent, but ''Stars'' eliminates them all in double-quick time.
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Collateral angst characters generally do have personality and importance. They may even be lead characters. You\'re thinking of Stuffed Into The Fridge. They suffer, she angsts, they don\'t - SM fits the trope.
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Not true, they have their own personalities and stories even if Usagi is the main focus
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* Hermione's rape in ''Fanfic/InThisWorldAndTheNext'' is very similar, in that it happens solely to motivate Harry to kill the perpetrator (a literal RonTheDeathEater) and is never mentioned after the first chapter, and Hermione's own reaction to it is never explored.
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** And there's some doubt about whether Megara was killed. Some versions of that myth say that she escaped and/or married Hercules' nephew Iolaus afterward. But the trope still applies, for her grief for her dead children? It's never mentioned at all.
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* One of the many things people take offense to in ''FanFic/DumbledoresArmyAndTheYearOfDarkness'' is its treatment of [[spoiler:Lavender's]] rape. After it's revealed, the victim is only referred to by name perhaps twice in the following scenes. Instead, Neville gathers an (exclusively male) revenge squad, humiliates the attackers (something that in real life would more likely drive them to repeat their crimes, as their egos are now damaged), and calls it paid.
* One of the many things people take offense to in ''FanFic/DumbledoresArmyAndTheYearOfDarkness'' is its treatment of [[spoiler:Lavender's]] rape. After it's revealed, the victim is only referred to by name perhaps twice in the following scenes. Instead, Neville gathers an (exclusively male) revenge squad, humiliates the attackers (something that in real life would more likely drive them to repeat their crimes, as their egos are now damaged), and calls it paid.
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* On BuffyTheVampireSlayer, Cordelia expects others to give her this treatment. ItsAllAboutMe, and so she tells a story where she hit someone with a car and felt that her emotional pain from the incident was a bigger deal than the problems faced by the actual victim of the accident.
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* On BuffyTheVampireSlayer, ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', Cordelia expects others to give her this treatment. ItsAllAboutMe, and so she tells a story where she hit someone with a car and felt that her emotional pain from the incident was a bigger deal than the problems faced by the actual victim of the accident.
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* On BuffyTheVampireSlayer, Cordelia expects others to give her this treatment. ItsAllAboutMe, and so she tells a story where she hit someone with a car and felt that her emotional pain from the incident was a bigger deal than the problems faced by the actual victim of the accident.
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