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-->'''Jack Johnson''': It's time that someone had the courage to stand up and say: "I'm against those things that everybody hates!"
-->'''John Jackson''': I respect my opponent. He's a good man. But frankly, I agree with everything he just said!
-->'''Jack Johnson''': It's time that someone had the courage to stand up and say: "I'm against those things that everybody hates!"
-->'''John Jackson''': I respect my opponent. He's a good man. But frankly, I agree with everything he just said!
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* "[[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog If you think it's cool to climb in a dryer, you're]] '''''[[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog really]]''''' [[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog all wet!]]"
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* "[[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog If you think it's cool to climb in a dryer, you're]] '''''[[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog really]]''''' [[AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog all wet!]]"
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** Which reveals Wanloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel (and several media outlets were threatened with similar suits if they didn't retract their stories). The judge ruled that they had not proved every one of their criticisms to be true, in particular "if one eats enough McDonald's food, one's diet may well become high in fat etc., with the very real risk of heart disease." Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where it is much harder to win a libel case, and as such there was nothing McDonald's could do to stop him.
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** Which reveals Wanloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' ''[=McLibel=]'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel (and several media outlets were threatened with similar suits if they didn't retract their stories). The judge ruled that they had not proved every one of their criticisms to be true, in particular "if one eats enough McDonald's [=McDonald's=] food, one's diet may well become high in fat etc., with the very real risk of heart disease." Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where it is much harder to win a libel case, and as such there was nothing McDonald's [=McDonald=]'s could do to stop him.
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* A lot of Oscar Bait films fall prey to this; after all, there's nothing daring about pointing out that the Holocaust was bad.
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* A lot of Oscar Bait OscarBait films fall prey to this; after all, there's nothing daring about pointing out that the Holocaust was bad.
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This is what he says for some reason.
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No, truth is a defence in English law, but the standard of proof is incredibly high.
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** Which reveals Wanloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel (and several media outlets were threatened with similar suits if they didn't retract their stories) for stating the truth thanks to the fact that in UK law, the truth is not an absolute defense against libel. Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where truth ''is'' an absolute defense, and as such there was nothing McDonald's could do to stop him.
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** Which reveals Wanloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel (and several media outlets were threatened with similar suits if they didn't retract their stories) for stating the truth thanks to the fact stories). The judge ruled that they had not proved every one of their criticisms to be true, in UK law, particular "if one eats enough McDonald's food, one's diet may well become high in fat etc., with the truth is not an absolute defense against libel. very real risk of heart disease." Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where truth ''is'' an absolute defense, it is much harder to win a libel case, and as such there was nothing McDonald's could do to stop him.
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** Which reveals Wanloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel for stating the truth thanks to the fact that in UK law, the truth is not an absolute defense against libel. Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where truth ''is'' an absolute defense, and as such there was nothing McDonald's could do to stop him.
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** Which reveals Wanloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel (and several media outlets were threatened with similar suits if they didn't retract their stories) for stating the truth thanks to the fact that in UK law, the truth is not an absolute defense against libel. Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where truth ''is'' an absolute defense, and as such there was nothing McDonald's could do to stop him.
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** Which reveals WAnloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel for stating the truth thanks to the fact that in UK law, the truth is not an absolute defense against libel. Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where truth ''is'' an absolute defense, and as such there was nothing McDonald's could do to stop him.
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** Which reveals WAnloo didn't read up on why Spurlock did it in the first place - it was a response to/protest against the infamous ''McLibel'' case, where two British protesters were successfully sued for libel for stating the truth thanks to the fact that in UK law, the truth is not an absolute defense against libel. Spurlock's experiment made the same point that was made by the protesters in the UK - but it was done in the US, where truth ''is'' an absolute defense, and as such there was nothing McDonald's could do to stop him.
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* Many bumper stickers, website signatures, etc. As an example, there are a lot of variations on the theme of "I support a cure for cancer", or "I'm against child abuse". There aren't many people who want cancer to continue unabated, and being opposed to child abuse is the norm.
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* Lamp-shaded on {{Community}} at one point when Britta and Annie are staging a demonstration to raise awareness about the environmental effects of the oil spill in the gulf. Britta is angry and yelling about how horrible it is to people passing by when someone mockingly points out that she doesn't need to yell at them, nobody is on the other side of this issue.
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* Lamp-shaded on {{Community}} at one point when Britta and Annie are staging a demonstration to raise awareness about the environmental effects of the oil spill in the gulf. Britta is angry and yelling about how horrible it is to people passing by when someone mockingly points out that she doesn't need to yell at them, nobody is on the other side of this issue.
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That movie was before the full evil of what Nazi Germany did was revealed.
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* OscarBait WorldWarII movies inform us about the fact that Nazism is bad. This includes ''{{Casablanca}}''.
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This is a trope for when characters are treated as brave revolutionaries by the other characters in the work for stating the obvious: that Eyepatch Q. Blackheart is a bad man, that the Nazis were evil, that cancer is bad, etc. Can also apply to situations or things instead of people.
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This is a trope for when characters are treated as brave revolutionaries by the other characters in the work for stating the obvious: that [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Eyepatch Q. Blackheart Blackheart]] [[ObviouslyEvil is a bad man, man]], that [[ThoseWackyNazis the Nazis Nazis]] were evil, that cancer is bad, etc. Can also apply to situations or things instead of people.
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--->"Restraint? Why are you so concerned with saving their lives? The whole idea is to kill the bastards. At the end of the war, if there are two Americans and one Russian, we win."
--->-- '''General Thomas S. Power''', Commander of the U.S. Strategic Air Command (1957-1964)
--->"Restraint? Why are you so concerned with saving their lives? The whole idea is to kill the bastards. At the end of the war, if there are two Americans and one Russian, we win."
--->-- '''General Thomas S. Power''', Commander of the U.S. Strategic Air Command (1957-1964)
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Cut some natter.
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* ''HighSchoolMusical'' tells us that [[BeYourself being yourself is good]] and cliques and bullying are bad. [[SarcasmMode Thanks HSM, I'd never seen it that way before]].
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** Also, the BlackAndWhiteMorality of all Nazis being 100% evil is averted with a heartwarming speech by a Nazi general near the end.
*** To [[YourMileageMayVary this troper]] he looks more like an old-school Prussian general than like a Nazi one. At least, IIRC, he wears an uniform of the Wehrmacht and not of the SS.
** Played straight (and DoneWell) when they find an nazi [[MoralEventHorizon death camp]]. Which serves as a sharp reminder that despite their many personal losses that there ''are'' some things worth fighting for.
*** To [[YourMileageMayVary this troper]] he looks more like an old-school Prussian general than like a Nazi one. At least, IIRC, he wears an uniform of the Wehrmacht and not of the SS.
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*** To [[YourMileageMayVary this troper]] he looks more like an old-school Prussian general than like a Nazi one. At least, IIRC, he wears an uniform of the Wehrmacht and not of the SS.
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* The quote at the top of this page derives from the novel ''The Better Part of Valor''. It begins with the main character recounting the story of how she managed to get herself into such a bad position with the brass. The trope is not played entirely straight as her friends are morbidly fascinated that she actually thought this moral required contemplation.
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* The quote at the top of this page derives from Spoofed in the novel ''The Better Part of Valor''. It begins with Valor'' when the main character recounting the story of explains how she managed to get herself into such a bad position wound up with a terrible assignment and says the brass. The trope lesson to be learned is not played entirely straight as her friends are morbidly fascinated that she actually thought this moral required contemplation.
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* Morgan Spurlock's experiment in ''SuperSizeMe'' demonstrates that... fast food isn't good for your health.
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-->--'''Staff Sergeant Torin Kerr''', ''prior to her assignment to a [[strike: suicide]] research mission,'' The Better Part of Valor
-> ''"You have to admire the people who sing [protest] songs, it takes a certain amount of courage to get up ... and come out in favor of the things everyone else in the audience is against. Like peace and justice and brotherhood and so on.''"
-->--'''TomLehrer,''' Folk Song Army
-->--'''Staff Sergeant Torin Kerr''', ''prior to her assignment to a [[strike: suicide]] research mission,'' The Better Part of Valor
-> ''"You have to admire the people who sing [protest] songs, it takes a certain amount of courage to get up ... and come out in favor of the things everyone else in the audience is against. Like peace and justice and brotherhood and so on.''"
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Obviously there's TruthInTelevision here. ValuesDissonance can sometimes result in this, if the Aesop really ''was'' revolutionary and controversial for its time/place.
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Obviously there's TruthInTelevision {{Truth in Television}} here. ValuesDissonance can sometimes result in this, if the Aesop really ''was'' revolutionary and controversial for its time/place.
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** Mocked in {{Band Of Brothers}} (of all places), when a new recruit is troubled by reports of Nazi atrocities:
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--> ''We all hate poverty, war and injustice''
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* Parodied on {{Family Guy}} when Congressman finally realize smoking is bad.
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-->'''Congressman''': -->'''Congressman:''' Smoking is a horrible vice! It shortens life expectancy and pollutes our air. And according to recent polls, air is good!
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** In fairness, Spurlock was trying to get a rise out of [=McDonald's=]. By all accounts, it worked; they stopped offering to supersize things.
*Oscar bait WW2 OscarBait WorldWarII movies inform us about the fact that Nazism is bad. This includes ''{{Casablanca}}''.
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