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* In ''Series/{{Chernobyl}}'', this ingrained attitude played a large part in bringing the disaster about and severely hindered the initial response. The oldest member of the local Communist Party's first priority isn't to evacuate the citizens (as one of the younger members wants to) but to cut the phone lines so the people can't ask noisy questions of the State. The fear of dissenting opinions (which always get labeled "misinformation") drives the government to try hushing the whole thing up until they're forced to admit the problem, by which time thousands of people have been exposed to dangerous levels of radiation.
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* ''Fanfic/TotalDramaWorldTourDeluxe'': Noah remarks in a confessional how Lindsay had this for Heather in Total Drama Island, which led to her assisting her reign of terror for most of the season and is why Noah, unlike most people, felt NoSympathy towards Lindsay for her elimination. He later recognizes that Tyler has the same thing for Alejandro this season, so [[spoiler:Tyler's elimination in Greece]] serves as a major blow against Alejandro.
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Kill Em All was renamed Everybody Dies Ending due to misuse. Dewicking


* This is the FatalFlaw of MCPO John-117's from ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' - while he can function without leaders, he is ''deeply'' uncomfortable and uncertain without authority or direction. The most standout example of this is in ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'', where he decides to latch on to following the custodian of the titular ring, 343 Guilty Spark, when the latter reveals that Halo can be used to destroy the Flood. He never questions Spark further on this, until Cortana stops Halo's activation and reveals that Halo stops the Flood from spreading [[KillEmAll by killing everything the Flood could use as a host]]. John never even thinks of asking Spark how Halo would stop the Flood, information that Spark readily divulges to Cortana when prodded. [[spoiler:Come ''Infinite'', Chief almost deletes The Weapon (only be stopped at the last moment) due to protocol, understandably enraging her and nearly destroying their partnership]].

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* This is the FatalFlaw of MCPO John-117's from ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' - while he can function without leaders, he is ''deeply'' uncomfortable and uncertain without authority or direction. The most standout example of this is in ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'', where he decides to latch on to following the custodian of the titular ring, 343 Guilty Spark, when the latter reveals that Halo can be used to destroy the Flood. He never questions Spark further on this, until Cortana stops Halo's activation and reveals that Halo stops the Flood from spreading [[KillEmAll by killing everything the Flood could use as a host]].host. John never even thinks of asking Spark how Halo would stop the Flood, information that Spark readily divulges to Cortana when prodded. [[spoiler:Come ''Infinite'', Chief almost deletes The Weapon (only be stopped at the last moment) due to protocol, understandably enraging her and nearly destroying their partnership]].
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* The [[{{Psychopomp}} Arbiters]] in ''Anime/DeathParade'' are like this by design. The rules of their job - [[MarriedToTheJob and by extension, their ''entire'' existence]] - all revolve around absolutes, with no gray area. They are called “puppets” by those who uphold the system, and any attempts at changing the status quo [[StatusQuoIsGod are quashed]]. Any character who questions their role in the system get brushed off ant are told to just accept it. While the main character seems to have broken the cycle by the end of the series, it’s implied that it will “ruin him.”

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Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment. I personally don't subscribe to Divine Command Theory, but DCT still isn't an example of this trope.


* Debater and Christian apologist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig William Lane Craig]], advocates a "Divine Command Theory" of morality. This idea states that God is the source of morality and is incapable of doing wrong, thus anything commanded by God is by definition "morally good". Craig acknowledges the implications of this. His comments justifying God's mass slaughter of the Canaanites in the Book of Deuteronomy are why {{Creator/Richard Dawkins}} refuses to share a stage with him.
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These followers will often obey their leader even when they are OrderedToDie. Compare/contrast HonorBeforeReason and IDontPayYouToThink. See also UndyingLoyalty, MyCountryRightOrWrong, JustFollowingOrders.

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These followers will often obey their leader even when they are OrderedToDie. Compare/contrast HonorBeforeReason and IDontPayYouToThink. See also UndyingLoyalty, MyCountryRightOrWrong, JustFollowingOrders.
JustFollowingOrders. See also ArtificialInsolence when disobeying the player's orders is a game mechanic.
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* ''Webcomic/UnOrdinary'': The Authorities don't care overmuch about loyalty of low-tiers, who are kept in line through fear and not being strong enough to fight back, but high-tiers are expected to never question the hierarchy with those who do being violently murdered by the SecretPolice. Kids who aren't controllable are [[MindRape "re-educated"]] to break them mentally. They also destroy books that introduce ideas that might make people question the Authorities.
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* ''Fanfic/CodePrime'': This is what leads to the Knights of the Rounds’ downfall. [[spoiler:When the SAZ massacre occurs thanks to Megatron’s machinations, he has Soundwave send out a falsified transmission from Charles zi Britannia to the Knights, and orders them to destroy the SAZ. Bismark, Dorothea, Luciano, and Anya/Marianne follow without question, while Monica, Gino, and Nonette refuse to take part in it.]] Then at the beginning of ''R2'', when the remaining Knights of the Round along with the Pacific Fleet assault the Decepticon capital, Schneizel el Britannia contacts them to try to convince them to surrender, but they refuse, as Bismark declares that they swore absolute loyalty to Charles zi Britannia. As a result, with the exception of Gino and Anya/[[spoiler:Marianne]], they’re all wiped out by the Decepticon combiners Bruticus and Devastator.
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* This is the FatalFlaw of MCPO John-117's from ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' - while he can function without leaders, he is ''deeply'' uncomfortable with doing so. [[spoiler:He almost activates the titular weapon in the first game, which would kill all sentient life in the Milky War Galaxy, because he defaulted to following 343 Guilty Spark wihtout asking him how the weapon would destroy the Flood]].

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* This is the FatalFlaw of MCPO John-117's from ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' - while he can function without leaders, he is ''deeply'' uncomfortable with doing so. [[spoiler:He almost activates the titular weapon and uncertain without authority or direction. The most standout example of this is in the first game, which would kill all sentient life in the Milky War Galaxy, because ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'', where he defaulted decides to latch on to following the custodian of the titular ring, 343 Guilty Spark wihtout asking him how Spark, when the weapon would latter reveals that Halo can be used to destroy the Flood]].Flood. He never questions Spark further on this, until Cortana stops Halo's activation and reveals that Halo stops the Flood from spreading [[KillEmAll by killing everything the Flood could use as a host]]. John never even thinks of asking Spark how Halo would stop the Flood, information that Spark readily divulges to Cortana when prodded. [[spoiler:Come ''Infinite'', Chief almost deletes The Weapon (only be stopped at the last moment) due to protocol, understandably enraging her and nearly destroying their partnership]].
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* This is the FatalFlaw of MCPO John-117's from ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' - while he can function without leaders, he is ''deeply'' uncomfortable with doing so. [[spoiler:He almost activates the titular weapon in the first game, which would kill all sentient life in the Milky War Galaxy, because he defaulted to following 343 Guilty Spark wihtout asking him how the weapon would destroy the Flood]].
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** In the same series, the Jem'hadar and Vorta. Fanatically loyal to the Founders, even as it costs them their lives.
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** It should not be surprising that the Imperial Japanese military, which promoted (the idealized version of) Bushido, also fell victim to this. Their armed forces were noted to be very well disciplined in executing intricate battle plans, but if things weren't going according to plan, they would prefer to stick to their now obsolete orders rather than do something different that might actually work.
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* ''Manga/{{Azumi}}'': As children, Azumi and her foster siblings were taught to never question her orders and that the people she was sent to assassinate were evil and wanted to drag Japan back into the chaos of civil war. One of her assassination targets even realizes she's been brainwashed and makes an effort to get through to her, managing to sow seeds of doubt that grow until Azumi realizes the people she's being sent to kill are -- for the most part -- just people trying to survive and/or who backed the losing side of the civil war.
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* The Freedom Fighters from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' initially obeyed Jet’s orders under the belief he’s always right. This leads to them almost killing an entire village of people under Fire Nation rule simply because Jet wanted to rid the valley of Fire Nation. The Duke was the only one to question the morality of the decision, but was convinced by Jet that a few sacrifices were needed to dispose of the enemy. Sokka initially thought Aang and Katara should follow his orders under the belief he was a good leader. After witnessing the events with Jet and his team, he realized how dangerous blind obedience really is.

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->'''Eden:''' Why? Why did my father kill [her]?! Doesn't even my father... make mistakes?
->'''Leo Mycenae:''' Wh-what did you say?
->'''Eden:''' Couldn't my father also make a mistake?
->'''Leo Mycenae:''' What are you saying, lord Eden? We've sworn our loyalty to lord Mars. That means that we must never question his actions!

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->'''Eden:''' Why? Why did my father kill [her]?! Doesn't even my father... make mistakes?
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'''Leo
Mycenae:''' What are you saying, lord Eden? We've sworn our loyalty to lord Mars. That means that we must never question his actions!



-->'''Brian:''' Look, you've got it all wrong, you don't need to follow me; you don't need to follow anyone. You're all individuals!
-->'''Crowd:''' Yes! We're all individuals!
-->'''Brian:''' You're all different!
-->'''Crowd:''' Yes! We're all different!
-->'''TheRuntAtTheEnd:''' I'm not!
-->'''Crowd:''' Shh! Shhhh!
-->'''Brian:''' You've all got to work it out for yourselves!
-->'''Crowd:''' Yes, we've got to work it out for ourselves!
-->'''Brian:''' Yes exactly!
-->'''Crowd:''' Tell us more!
-->'''Brian:''' No, that's the point, don't let anyone tell you what to do, otherwise... ''ow!''
-->'''Woman in Black:''' That's enough.

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-->'''Brian:''' Look, you've got it all wrong, you don't need to follow me; you don't need to follow anyone. You're all individuals!
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individuals!\\
'''Crowd:'''
Yes! We're all individuals!
-->'''Brian:'''
individuals!\\
'''Brian:'''
You're all different!
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different!\\
'''Crowd:'''
Yes! We're all different!
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different!\\
'''TheRuntAtTheEnd:'''
I'm not!
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not!\\
'''Crowd:'''
Shh! Shhhh!
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Shhhh!\\
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You've all got to work it out for yourselves!
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Yes, we've got to work it out for ourselves!
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Yes exactly!
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Tell us more!
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No, that's the point, don't let anyone tell you what to do, otherwise... ''ow!''
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** Later on, while the other animals have ''something'' of a clue that all isn't right, the sheep personify this the most, as all they do is repeat what the Pigs said, from "Four legs good, two legs bad" to [[spoiler:"Four legs good, two legs ''better''"]]

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** Later on, while the other animals have ''something'' of a clue that all isn't right, the sheep personify this the most, as all they do is repeat what the Pigs said, from "Four legs good, two legs bad" to [[spoiler:"Four legs good, two legs ''better''"]]''better''!"]]
* ''Literature/ChrysalisRinoZ'': Anthony is exasperated by how much reverence and obedience he gets from the Colony (who always find ways to interpret even his mistakes as foresightful attempts to help the Colony stand on its own feet), Crinis (who is [[{{Yandere}} obsessed with him]]), and ''especially'' from Beyn the preacher, who has decided that the ants were sent by heaven to save everyone, and who spends his days preaching for the people to be more like the Colony. It gets to the point where the worker ants are able to walk into the village and carry everyone away into the anthill without any protest or resistance. [[spoiler:Turns out that the newly sapient ants were smart enough to recognise the villagers as food and ignore the pheromone barriers Anthony had placed around the village -- and he hadn't yet had time to explain to them that the village should be left alone. On the other hand, the villagers' lack of resistance actually kept them alive long enough for Anthony to come back and intervene; since they weren't fighting back, the workers were bringing them to the Queen unharmed, so that she could get the XP for killing them.]]
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* In ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarepants'' [=SpongeBob=] exhibits Blind Obedience to the Jellyspotters in hopes of joining the club. Even when the leader instructs him to punch himself in the face and throw himself off of a building he complies. When asked, "Doesn't that hurt you?" The next shot is of [=SpongeBob=] wearing a metal spiked glove. He asks "Do you want it to hurt me, Kevin?". Eventually the club members decide to just humor him. Kevin assures them [[ForTheEvulz Don't worry. I won't let him into the club. I just want to see how many times he has to get stung before he runs home crying like a little baby]]. Funny thing though... [[LaserGuidedKarma Everything they do backfires and hurts them instead even when it should be completely impossible for that to happen.]]. Eventually this obedience fades and [[TooDumbToLive Patrick]] reminds him that Idol worship is never healthy [[SpoofAesop before walking past and revealing that he has subdued and captured the "Jeremy the Jellyfish" Mascot he's been chasing the entire episode.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarepants'' [=SpongeBob=] exhibits Blind Obedience to the Jellyspotters in hopes of joining the club. Even when the leader instructs him to punch himself in the face and throw himself off of a building he complies. When asked, "Doesn't that hurt you?" The next shot is of [=SpongeBob=] wearing a metal spiked glove. He asks "Do you want it to hurt me, Kevin?". Eventually the club members decide to just humor him. Kevin assures them [[ForTheEvulz Don't worry. I won't let him into the club. I just want to see how many times he has to get stung before he runs home crying like a little baby]]. Funny thing though... [[LaserGuidedKarma Everything they do backfires and hurts them instead even when it should be completely impossible for that to happen.]]. Eventually this obedience fades and [[TooDumbToLive Patrick]] reminds him that Idol worship is never healthy [[SpoofAesop before walking past and revealing that he has subdued and captured the "Jeremy the "Jeffery Jellyfish" Mascot he's been chasing the entire episode.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/LoopHero'' the Priestess Sigma is the [[AnthropomorphicPersonification physical avatar of faith in god]]. When Alpha the Creator was reborn as Omega the Destroyer, Sigma accepted his decision to unmake reality because he was god and thus his decision was right.
* In VideoGame/MortalKombat11 this is Cetrion's main issue which Fujin calls her out on in one of their interactions.

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* In ''VideoGame/LoopHero'' ''VideoGame/LoopHero'', the Priestess Sigma is the [[AnthropomorphicPersonification physical avatar of faith in god]]. When Alpha the Creator was reborn as Omega the Destroyer, Sigma accepted his decision to unmake reality because he was god and thus his decision was right.
* In VideoGame/MortalKombat11 ''VideoGame/MortalKombat11'', this is Cetrion's main issue which Fujin calls her out on in one of their interactions.
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** [[spoiler: The Robinson children]] are able to easily manipulate the Robot, too. In one episode, the adults task the Robot with [[spoiler guarding the children so that they will remain safely in their room]], but [[spoiler: they simply issue a new command to the Robot and he lets them go.]]

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** [[spoiler: The Robinson children]] are able to easily manipulate the Robot, too. In one episode, the adults task the Robot with [[spoiler [[spoiler: guarding the children so that they will remain safely in their room]], but [[spoiler: they simply issue a new command to the Robot and he lets them go.]]
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** The Robinson children are able to easily manipulate the Robot, too. In one episode, the adults task the Robot with guarding the children so that they will remain safely in their room, but the children simply issue a new command to the Robot and he lets them go.

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** [[spoiler: The Robinson children children]] are able to easily manipulate the Robot, too. In one episode, the adults task the Robot with [[spoiler guarding the children so that they will remain safely in their room, room]], but the children [[spoiler: they simply issue a new command to the Robot and he lets them go.]]
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** You'd think the Robinson parents and/or Major West would think to put an admin password on the dang Robot. C'mon, guyyyyyssssssss!

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** You'd think the Robinson parents and/or Major West would think to put an admin password on the dang Robot. Robot, at least for issuing commands beyond the mundane, "Hey, go fetch us some water." C'mon, guyyyyyssssssss!
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* The Robot in Series/LostInSpace, at least during the first half or so of the first season. During those times, Dr. Smith is able to easily manipulate the Robot by forcing him to erase certain parts of his memory (to delete information that might incriminate the Doctor) and is able to issue verbal commands which instantly override very basic parts of his programming (such as the "Prime Directive" that the Robot is not permitted to kill a human).
** The Robinson children are able to manipulate him, too. In one episode, the adults task the Robot with guarding the children so that they will remain safely in their room, but the children simply issue a new command to the Robot and he lets them go.
** You'd think the Robinson parents and/or Major West would think to put an admin password on the Robot. C'mon, guyyyyyssssssss!

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* The Robot in Series/LostInSpace, at least during the first half or so of the first season. During those times, Dr. Smith is able to easily manipulate the Robot by forcing him to erase certain parts of his memory (to delete information that might incriminate the Doctor) and is able to issue verbal commands Doctor). Nearly averted in one case in which instantly override very basic parts of the Robot questions an order from Dr. Smith to attack someone, citing his programming (such as the "Prime Directive" that which "forbids taking human life;" however, Dr. Smith is able to issue a verbal command which overrides said Prime Directive, and the Robot is not permitted to kill a human).
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** The Robinson children are able to easily manipulate him, the Robot, too. In one episode, the adults task the Robot with guarding the children so that they will remain safely in their room, but the children simply issue a new command to the Robot and he lets them go.
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* The Robot in Series/LostInSpace, at least during the first half or so of the first season. During those times, Dr. Smith is able to easily manipulate the Robot by forcing him to erase certain parts of his memory (to delete information that might incriminate the Doctor) and is able to issue verbal commands which instantly override very basic parts of his programming (such as the "Prime Directive" that the Robot is not permitted to kill a human).
** The Robinson children are able to manipulate him, too. In one episode, the adults task the Robot with guarding the children so that they will remain safely in their room, but the children simply issue a new command to the Robot and he lets them go.
** You'd think the Robinson parents and/or Major West would think to put an admin password on the Robot. C'mon, guyyyyyssssssss!
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* {{Lampshaded}} in ''Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian:''

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* {{Lampshaded}} in ''Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian:''''Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian'': Brian gets mistaken for a religious messiah, and his new "followers" refuse to get the point of anything he tries to say about it.
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* ''Prophecy-Approved Companion'': The protagonist, and all other Order-aligned [=NPCs=], start out this way; in their internal monologues, fulfilling their purpose is more important than their lives or the fate of the world, to the point that they only begin to go rogue when the {{Munchkin}} player (constantly) breaks the game by flipping the bird to their usual processes, and are still obsessed with using their newfound freedom to return to the status quo. Luckily for the protagonist, her purpose is to save the world by supporting the player her way, which gives her enough leeway to develop free will.
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* In ''VideoGame/LoopHero'' the Priestess Sigma is the [[AnthropomorphicPersonification physical avatar of faith in god]]. Sigma believes the unmaking of reality is the proper course of things because that is the will of god; she needs know nothing more than that.

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* In ''VideoGame/LoopHero'' the Priestess Sigma is the [[AnthropomorphicPersonification physical avatar of faith in god]]. When Alpha the Creator was reborn as Omega the Destroyer, Sigma believes the unmaking of accepted his decision to unmake reality is the proper course of things because that is the will of god; she needs know nothing more than that.he was god and thus his decision was right.
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