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** Some of the animators on that movie even said they were trying to imply that Gaston was the one who killed Bambi's mother. She appears in the opening shot in the movie as well.

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** Some of the animators on that movie even said they were trying to imply that Gaston was the one who killed Bambi's mother. She appears in the opening shot in the movie as well. (Although it would be unlikely as ''Bambi'' takes place in North America while ''Beauty and the Beast'' is a French fairy tale.)
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* In ''Series/SpinCity'', Mike refuses to kill a fawn to score political points with a political contributor who's big on hunting. Mike's attempt at "missing" ends up killing the mother, though. Just to drive the point home, the hunter shows a sort of sadistic glee at the fact that the fawn will no longer have a mother, ''while they're eating meat made from her''.
** It does, however, lead to a SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} when they take the wounded fawn into a hospital. Carter fills out a form for it.

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* In ''Series/SpinCity'', Mike refuses to kill a fawn to score political points with a political contributor who's big on hunting. Mike's attempt at "missing" ends up killing the mother, though. Just to drive the point home, the hunter shows a sort of sadistic glee at the fact that the fawn will no longer have a mother, ''while they're eating meat made from her''.
** It does, however, lead to a SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} when they
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** Of course, this turns into research failure for actual hunters watching, as either they were poaching or live in a previously-unknown area where it's legal to hunt in early spring. Even game ranches won't send people out to shoot deer in spring and summer, which is the only time the fawns are with their mothers. Most deer hunters won't kill fawns anyway due to the simple fact that fawns have too little meat on them to make killing them worthwhile.
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* Seeing as its heroine is a [[PettingZooPeople Wolf-Woman]], ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'' naturally [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff300/fv00227.htm took this one on.]]

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* Seeing as its heroine is a [[PettingZooPeople [[BeastMan Wolf-Woman]], ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'' naturally [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff300/fv00227.htm took this one on.]]
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheDragonPrince,'' it's played for creepy moral ambiguity when [[spoiler:[[BlackMagicianGirl Claudia]] [[KilledOffscreen apparently]] kills a fawn to power the magic that heals [[LovableJock Soren]]'s paralysis]].
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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality). Bambi himself [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to Badass Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]]. The midquel is no slacker on this either; all you need is one word: Ronno.

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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality). Bambi himself [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to Badass Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]]. The midquel [[Disney/BambiII midquel]] is no slacker on this either; all you need is one word: Ronno.
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* In ''VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII'', while most deer in general are harmless prey for villagers, a bug in the "Vindlandsaga" scenario will sometimes cause a deer to spawn next to an outpost and attack it if [[SavageWolf Ornlu]] hasn't been spawned yet.
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->'''Smalls:''' Oh. Yeah, the [[Creator/BabeRuth Great Bambino]]! Of course! I thought you said the Great Bambi.
->'''Ham:''' That wimpy deer?
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[[caption-width-right:300:Total Badass.[[note]]Seriously, he does [[TookALevelInBadass become a total badass]].[[/note]]]]

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* There's [[http://deer-s-revenge.software.informer.com/ Deer's Revenge,]] also a parody of the ''Franchise/DeerHunter'' series that also swaps the roles of predator and prey.

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* There's [[http://deer-s-revenge.software.informer.com/ Deer's Revenge,]] also a parody of the ''Franchise/DeerHunter'' ''VideoGame/DeerHunter'' series that also swaps the roles of predator and prey.
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See also ChildrenAreInnocent, HumansAreTheRealMonsters, InfantImmortality and WhatMeasureIsANonCute.

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See also ChildrenAreInnocent, HumansAreTheRealMonsters, InfantImmortality ImprobableInfantSurvival and WhatMeasureIsANonCute.
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* {{Sanrio}}'s own [[https://www.sanrio.com/character/2000/deery-lou Deery Lou]] firmly adheres to this trope.

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* {{Sanrio}}'s Creator/{{Sanrio}}'s own [[https://www.sanrio.com/character/2000/deery-lou Deery Lou]] and [[https://www.sanrio.com/categories/hummingmint Hummingmint]] firmly adheres to this trope.
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* Buckfire from ''VideoGame/MegaManZX Advent'', who's essentially Flame Stag [[{{Expy}} reborn]] with the addition of HulkSpeak.
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** It does, however, lead to a CrowningMomentOfFunny when they take the wounded fawn into a hospital. Carter fills out a form for it.

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** It does, however, lead to a CrowningMomentOfFunny SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} when they take the wounded fawn into a hospital. Carter fills out a form for it.
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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality). Bambi himself [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to Badass Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].

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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality). Bambi himself [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to Badass Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].
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** Similarly, in ''RiseOfTheHorde'', Thrall's father's first kill is a [[CallARabbitASmeerp space deer]] that separates itself from the rest of its herd. [[spoiler:This is foreshadowing of sorts: Durotan is one of the relatively few orcs to resist demonic corruption, and that choice eventually gets him killed.]]

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** Similarly, in ''RiseOfTheHorde'', ''Literature/RiseOfTheHorde'', Thrall's father's first kill is a [[CallARabbitASmeerp space deer]] that separates itself from the rest of its herd. [[spoiler:This is foreshadowing of sorts: Durotan is one of the relatively few orcs to resist demonic corruption, and that choice eventually gets him killed.]]
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* Played with in the ''Literature/TheBrightFallsMysteries'' as the protagonist, humorously named Jane Doe, is a weredeer and they're widely considered to be among the weakest of all shapeshifters by the public. Except, they all have PsychicPowers, are very fast, and are still far stronger than humans. Jane further states it's mainly 'female' deer who get this since few people give stags crap.
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* UsefulNotes/AztecMythology applies [[BondCreature nagual]] to most of its deities, and yes, one has a deer; Itzpapalotl, goddess of among other things, motherhood and the stars. So, straight example, right? [[SubvertedTrope Haha]], [[HumanoidAbomination no]]. The other things she's a goddess of are war, death, and the same [[LightIsNotGood stars]] she's a queen of regularly try to eat the sun during an eclipse so they can invade Earth. Part of the whole HumanSacrifice thing was to keep the Obsidian Butterfly ''far, far away''.

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* UsefulNotes/AztecMythology Myth/AztecMythology applies [[BondCreature nagual]] to most of its deities, and yes, one has a deer; Itzpapalotl, goddess of among other things, motherhood and the stars. So, straight example, right? [[SubvertedTrope Haha]], [[HumanoidAbomination no]]. The other things she's a goddess of are war, death, and the same [[LightIsNotGood stars]] she's a queen of regularly try to eat the sun during an eclipse so they can invade Earth. Part of the whole HumanSacrifice thing was to keep the Obsidian Butterfly ''far, far away''.
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* There's a famous segment from the 90's caught-on-camera show ''When Animals Attack'' of a hunter being ''brutally'' attacked by a white-tailed deer after spraying elk urine on himself during rutting season. At one point he even tried to climb a tree to get away, only for the deer to jump up and knock him right out of it. He survived, but the video spent several years as fodder for stand-up comedians.
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* The leader of TheWildHunt (aptly called "the Hunter") in ''{{Literature/Moonflowers}}'' wears a deer-skull mask with red eyes, [[RuleOfScary explicitly to terrify his victims.]] Turns UpToEleven as he uses an ''Irish Elk'' skull to hunt Alima Song--the Irish Elk is a prehistoric relative of modern deer, known for its massive size and equally gigantic ten-foot antlers. He uses his mask [[UseYourHead as a weapon to gore his opponents.]] Later on, Maidin the river-spirit muses that the Hunter must be [[TestosteronePoisoning testosterone-poisoned]] from wearing the skull all the time, which means it's an extremely masculine symbol. Later, it's officially confirmed that the Hunter is the ''Horned'' Hunter of CelticMythology, and the AnthropomorphicPersonification of ''predators.'' NatureIsNotNice in full force. Ironically enough, Alima gets taken under the protection of the bear-goddess Artio, who is [[ThePollyanna friendly and cheerful]] despite embodying an ''actual'' predator. (Probably because she's the UrExample of a MamaBear.)

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* The leader of TheWildHunt (aptly called "the Hunter") in ''{{Literature/Moonflowers}}'' wears a deer-skull mask with red eyes, [[RuleOfScary explicitly to terrify his victims.]] Turns UpToEleven as he uses an ''Irish Elk'' skull to hunt Alima Song--the Irish Elk is a prehistoric relative of modern deer, known for its massive size and equally gigantic ten-foot antlers. He uses his mask [[UseYourHead as a weapon to gore his opponents.]] Later on, Maidin the river-spirit muses that the Hunter must be [[TestosteronePoisoning testosterone-poisoned]] from wearing the skull all the time, which means it's an extremely masculine symbol. Later, it's officially confirmed that the Hunter is the ''Horned'' Hunter of CelticMythology, Myth/CelticMythology, and the AnthropomorphicPersonification of ''predators.'' NatureIsNotNice in full force. Ironically enough, Alima gets taken under the protection of the bear-goddess Artio, who is [[ThePollyanna friendly and cheerful]] despite embodying an ''actual'' predator. (Probably because she's the UrExample of a MamaBear.)
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* William Blake in Creator/JimJarmusch's film ''Film/DeadMan'' grieves over the remains of a dead baby deer, which was shot by one of his pursuers. The scene echoes a previous scene where an [[WomenInRefrigerators innocent woman was killed]] by someone trying to kill him.

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* William Blake in Creator/JimJarmusch's film ''Film/DeadMan'' grieves over the remains of a dead baby deer, which was shot by one of his pursuers. The scene echoes a previous scene where an [[WomenInRefrigerators [[StuffedIntoTheFridge innocent woman was killed]] by someone trying to kill him.
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* The "gentle, angelic woodland critter" cliche gets taken down ''hard'' in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL9xCWphV8s this [NSFW] clip]] from Louis C.K.

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* The "gentle, angelic woodland critter" cliche gets taken down ''hard'' in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL9xCWphV8s this [NSFW] clip]] from Louis C.K.
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* The leader of TheWildHunt in ''{{Literature/Moonflowers}}'' wears a deer-skull mask with red eyes, [[RuleOfScary explicitly to terrify his victims.]] Turns UpToEleven as he uses an ''Irish Elk'' skull to hunt Alima--the Irish Elk is a prehistoric relative of modern deer, known for its massive size and equally gigantic ten-foot antlers. He also uses his mask [[UseYourHead as a weapon to ram/gore his opponents.]] Later on, Maidin the river-spirit muses that the Hunter must be pretty [[TestosteronePoisoning testosterone-poisoned]] from wearing the skull-mask all the time, which means it's an extremely masculine symbol.
** The Fianna are a positive version, being minor gods of deer and policemen. They wear brown suits and give people deer-antler whistles to call for help. While noted for being [[BoisterousBruiser energetic]] and comedic, [[SuperStrength two of them can lift a car]] and at least one of them is [[TheBerserker a berserker]].

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* The leader of TheWildHunt (aptly called "the Hunter") in ''{{Literature/Moonflowers}}'' wears a deer-skull mask with red eyes, [[RuleOfScary explicitly to terrify his victims.]] Turns UpToEleven as he uses an ''Irish Elk'' skull to hunt Alima--the Alima Song--the Irish Elk is a prehistoric relative of modern deer, known for its massive size and equally gigantic ten-foot antlers. He also uses his mask [[UseYourHead as a weapon to ram/gore gore his opponents.]] Later on, Maidin the river-spirit muses that the Hunter must be pretty [[TestosteronePoisoning testosterone-poisoned]] from wearing the skull-mask skull all the time, which means it's an extremely masculine symbol.
symbol. Later, it's officially confirmed that the Hunter is the ''Horned'' Hunter of CelticMythology, and the AnthropomorphicPersonification of ''predators.'' NatureIsNotNice in full force. Ironically enough, Alima gets taken under the protection of the bear-goddess Artio, who is [[ThePollyanna friendly and cheerful]] despite embodying an ''actual'' predator. (Probably because she's the UrExample of a MamaBear.)
** The Fianna are a positive version, being minor gods of [[ComboPlatterPowers deer and policemen. policemen.]] They wear brown suits and give people deer-antler whistles to call them for help. While noted for being [[BoisterousBruiser energetic]] and comedic, [[SuperStrength two of them can lift a car]] and at least one of them is [[TheBerserker a berserker]].
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* Film/DetectiveDee has deer used as a divine oracle for talking about the future. [[spoiler: It's all a trick and Dee gets his ASS KICKED by a bunch of them.]]

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* Film/DetectiveDee ''Film/DetectiveDee'' has deer used as a divine oracle for talking about the future. [[spoiler: It's all a trick and Dee gets his ASS KICKED by a bunch of them.]]



* Despite seemingly playing it completely straight, ''Literature/TheRing 2'' features a herd of demonically-possessed deer. Yes, it's [[{{Narm}} just as silly as it sounds]]. It's somewhat implied that, since horses were driven mad by Samara's uncontrollable PsychicPowers (and indeed, a horse broke out of its trailer and drowned itself at the mere presence of a Cursed Video victim [[spoiler:who had already cured herself]],) deer respond to the malevolent influence not by trying to kill themselves, but by killing the ''offender''. The car was almost totaled by their attack.
* Parodied to hell and back in ''Film/TommyBoy''.

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* Despite seemingly playing it completely straight, ''Literature/TheRing 2'' ''Film/TheRingTwo'' features a herd of demonically-possessed deer. Yes, it's [[{{Narm}} just as silly as it sounds]].deer. It's somewhat implied that, since horses were driven mad by Samara's uncontrollable PsychicPowers (and indeed, a horse broke out of its trailer and drowned itself at the mere presence of a Cursed Video victim [[spoiler:who had already cured herself]],) deer respond to the malevolent influence not by trying to kill themselves, but by killing the ''offender''. The car was almost totaled by their attack.
* %%* Parodied to hell and back in ''Film/TommyBoy''.
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* {{Sanrio}}'s own [[https://www.sanrio.com/character/2000/deery-lou Deery Lou]] firmly adheres to this trope.
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For an older tradition where deer are mysterious and magical creatures, see TheMarvelousDeer.

As far as how this trope has affected RealLife... let's... not even go there. We don't want this to turn into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Complaining About Hoofed Mammals You Don't Like]].)

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For an older tradition where deer are mysterious and magical creatures, see TheMarvelousDeer.

TheMarvelousDeer. One notable exception to this trope is moose, which are more likely to be portrayed as [[MooseAreIdiots bumbling buffoons]].

As far as how this trope has affected RealLife... let's... not even go there. We don't want this to turn into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Complaining About Hoofed Mammals You Don't Like]].)
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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality). Bambi himself [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to {{Badass}} Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].

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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality). Bambi himself [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to {{Badass}} Badass Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].
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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality.) [[ViewerGenderConfusion Bambi himself]] [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to BadAss Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].

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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality.) [[ViewerGenderConfusion reality). Bambi himself]] himself [[TookALevelInBadass goes from]] cute little fawn to BadAss {{Badass}} Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].
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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality.) [[ViewerGenderConfusion Bambi himself]] goes from cute little fawn to BadAss Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].

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The {{Trope Namer|s}} (unrelated to the term used by some critics of vegetarianism to describe [[StrawCharacter how they see]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute the vegetarians' philosophy]]) is a [[{{Fictionary}} term]] used offhand to criticize this trope in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X''. What's especially bizarre is the fact that ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'' is often accused of spreading the idea that "deer are innocent". If you feel this way, ''please'' go and watch the movie again. In actuality, the film does not shy away from the "Deer can be Bastards and, Really, Sometimes You Can't Blame Them" / "NatureIsNotNice" world of Felix Salten's original novel (which, needless to say, is a bit closer to reality.) [[ViewerGenderConfusion Bambi himself]] [[TookALevelInBadass goes from from]] cute little fawn to BadAss Prince who kicks (antlers, rather) butt for [[ThePowerOfLove love]].
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As far as how this trope has affected RealLife... let's... not even go there. (If you must, take it to this here [[Headscratchers/WhatMeasureIsANonCute Headscratchers page]]. We don't want this to turn into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Complaining About Hoofed Mammals You Don't Like]].)

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As far as how this trope has affected RealLife... let's... not even go there. (If you must, take it to this here [[Headscratchers/WhatMeasureIsANonCute Headscratchers page]]. We don't want this to turn into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Complaining About Hoofed Mammals You Don't Like]].)

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