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** Despite the page quote, there was only one Necromantic Wizard spell in the 3rd Ed. Player's Handbook that was explicitly Evil: ''Animate Dead''. Good luck finding a way to use ''Soul Bind'' beneficially, though.
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* In ''MedakaBox'', we have Munakata. In a world of people with strange powers, Munakata was born with an abnormal desire and ability to kill. He is, in fact, a serial killer who first killed at the age of 5, and he carried more hidden weapons than anyone else, ever. Just looking at someone makes him want to kill them. Except, as it turns out, he's never actually killed anyone. His serial killer status and creepy talk of killing lives (literally, "will these kill your life?") are purely to scare people away so he doesn't kill them--the serial killer charge is all fake. As he says, his killing desire is the real deal, and he wants more than anything to kill people, but restrains himself. "Because, if you kill a person, they will die."
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* The scarab of the BlueBeetle is revealed to be a part of the Reach, the ancient enemy of the GreenLantern who created the scarab as part of a hive mind that controls the wearer. Fortunately, the Blue Beetle's scarab manages to develop a sense of self thanks to the good heart of its wearer Jaime Reyes, separated itself from its link to hive mind, and became a sentential being of good.
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* [[DarkIsNotEvil Raven]] in ''TeenTitans'', daughter of the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demonic]] Trigon and intended to serve in destroying the world. Instead, she opposes him and fights for good with the other Titans.
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* [[DarkIsNotEvil Raven]] in ''TeenTitans'', daughter of the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demonic]] Trigon and intended to serve in destroying the world. Instead, she opposes him and fights for good with the other Titans.Titans.
* Zak Saturday from TheSecretSaturdays. His cryptid controlling powers turn out to be the powers of Kur, the most evil cryptid to ever exist. Naturally, Zak fights against this dark nature within him and uses it to do good for the world. Although unlike some cases, he doesn't fully overcome the darkness within him as his powers are taken from him by Argost (who ends up destroying himself due to already having the antimatter version of that power), leaving Zak as a [[IJustWantToBeNormal normal person]].
* Zak Saturday from TheSecretSaturdays. His cryptid controlling powers turn out to be the powers of Kur, the most evil cryptid to ever exist. Naturally, Zak fights against this dark nature within him and uses it to do good for the world. Although unlike some cases, he doesn't fully overcome the darkness within him as his powers are taken from him by Argost (who ends up destroying himself due to already having the antimatter version of that power), leaving Zak as a [[IJustWantToBeNormal normal person]].
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** Canon character Infernal is a controller and binder of demons, who [[DarkIsNotEvil looks a lot like one himself]]. He's firmly with the good guys, though his MirrorUniverse version shows us how easily his powers could corrupt him.
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*** One has to remember, the majority of pirates ''aren't'' like the Straw Hat crew. Just because the World Government as a whole is corrupt and oppressive doesn't change the fact that the pirates they imprison are usually brutal murderers.
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** So was the more popular Rogue, who's touch could put people in comas, but still fought with the good guys.
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* Luke Skywalker uses the force choke on a guard in ''ReturnOfTheJedi'', which Darth Vader does throughout the series.
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* Luke Skywalker uses the force Force choke on a guard pair of guards in ''ReturnOfTheJedi'', which Darth Vader does throughout the series.series. Luke just chokes them into unconsciousness rather than strangling them, though.
** ''StarWars'', particularly in the [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]], shows that most "DarkSide" powers can in certain situations be used for good: it's your motivations for using the powers and what you use them for, not the powers themselves, that determines whether you're tapping into {{the Dark Side}}. Usually. Some powers are, of course, so innately cruel and evil that there's no possible "good" use for them.
** ''StarWars'', particularly in the [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]], shows that most "DarkSide" powers can in certain situations be used for good: it's your motivations for using the powers and what you use them for, not the powers themselves, that determines whether you're tapping into {{the Dark Side}}. Usually. Some powers are, of course, so innately cruel and evil that there's no possible "good" use for them.
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* ''{{Castlevania}}: [[{{Ptitle1btexpw9}} Aria and Dawn of Sorrow]]''. Soma Cruz has Dracula's main power of controlling monsters (and stealing their powers).
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*** Hellishness aside, the staff of Impel Down are among the most legitimately decent people seen in the World Government to date. Magellan and Hannyabal are genuinely concerned about the people on the outside who were/would be victims of the prisoners they keep, and even so far as to arrest one of their own when he went on a bloody rampage amongst the prisoners.
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* Castlevania: Aria and Dawn of Sorrow. Soma Cruz has Dracula's main power of controlling monsters (and stealing their powers).
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* Castlevania: ''{{Castlevania}}: [[{{Ptitle1btexpw9}} Aria and Dawn of Sorrow.Sorrow]]''. Soma Cruz has Dracula's main power of controlling monsters (and stealing their powers).
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* Thanks to Lasciel, [[TheDresdenFiles Harry Dresden]] had access to Hellfire, which is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. However, once Lasciel was no longer a factor, Harry lost this ability and was given the angelic equivalent, Soulfire, instead.
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* Saiga, the hero of ''SpeedGrapher'' is the only non-villainous Euphoric, and like the rest of them, his powers are a manifestation of his deepest (generally sexual) desire, and in his case, involves making anything he takes a picture of explode. Besides starting as a fairly good guy, an important part of him being BadPowersGoodPeople is because he hates his powers and just [[IJustWantToBeNormal wants to be normal]]. Because he was a famous war photographer and would sometimes get a RagingStiffy when taking a particularly good photo, he's horrified by the implication that deep down he wanted to kill his subjects, and besides that, hates the fact that his powers make him unable to take a normal picture of anything.
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* Saiga, the hero of ''SpeedGrapher'' is the only non-villainous Euphoric, and like the rest of them, his powers are a manifestation of his deepest (generally sexual) desire, and in his case, involves making anything he takes a picture of explode. Besides starting as a fairly good guy, an important part of him being BadPowersGoodPeople is because he hates his powers and just [[IJustWantToBeNormal wants to be normal]]. Because he was a famous war photographer and would sometimes get a RagingStiffy RagingStiffie when taking a particularly good photo, he's horrified by the implication that deep down he wanted to kill his subjects, and besides that, hates the fact that his powers make him unable to take a normal picture of anything.
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* Saiga, the hero of ''SpeedGrapher'' is the only non-villainous Euphoric, and like the rest of them, his powers are a manifestation of his deepest (generally sexual) desire, and in his case, involves making anything he takes a picture of explode. Besides starting as a fairly good guy, an important part of him being BadPowersGoodPeople is because he hates his powers and just [[IJustWantToBeNormal wants to be normal]]. Because he was a famous war photographer and would sometimes get a RaggingStiffy when taking a particularly good photo, he's horrified by the implication that deep down he wanted to kill his subjects, and besides that, hates the fact that his powers make him unable to take a normal picture of anything.
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* Saiga, the hero of ''SpeedGrapher'' is the only non-villainous Euphoric, and like the rest of them, his powers are a manifestation of his deepest (generally sexual) desire, and in his case, involves making anything he takes a picture of explode. Besides starting as a fairly good guy, an important part of him being BadPowersGoodPeople is because he hates his powers and just [[IJustWantToBeNormal wants to be normal]]. Because he was a famous war photographer and would sometimes get a RaggingStiffy RagingStiffy when taking a particularly good photo, he's horrified by the implication that deep down he wanted to kill his subjects, and besides that, hates the fact that his powers make him unable to take a normal picture of anything.
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* Saiga, the hero of ''SpeedGrapher'' is the only non-villainous Euphoric, and like the rest of them, his powers are a manifestation of his deepest (generally sexual) desire, and in his case, involves making anything he takes a picture of explode. Besides starting as a fairly good guy, an important part of him being BadPowersGoodPeople is because he hates his powers and just [[IJustWantToBeNormal wants to be normal]]. Because he was a famous war photographer and would sometimes get a RaggingStiffy when taking a particularly good photo, he's horrified by the implication that deep down he wanted to kill his subjects, and besides that, hates the fact that his powers make him unable to take a normal picture of anything.
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* Light Yagami of ''DeathNote'' claims to be this, saying he wants to [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans make a better world (by killing off all the bad people in it)]], but it's quickly made clear that he's most definitely just a psycopath with a [[AGodAmI God Complex]].
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* Light Yagami of ''DeathNote'' claims to be this, saying he wants to [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans make a better world (by killing off all the bad people in it)]], but it's quickly made clear that he's most definitely just a psycopath psychopath with a [[AGodAmI God Complex]].
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* The good-aligned Bhaalspawn in [[BaldursGate Baldur's Gate II]], including good [=PCs=] [[spoiler: and Imoen]]. Good people... whose divine heritage leaves them capable of transforming into unholy killing machines with a burning desire to slaughter everything nearby. Even when you can keep control of the slayer form, it still dings your KarmaMeter.
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Light lost any claim he might have to being good the instant he started killing innocent people just for opposing his plans (which happens in chapter two of a 108-chapter series).
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* Light Yagami of ''DeathNote'' ''thinks'' he's this... claiming claims to be this, saying he wants to [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to make a better world (by killing off all the bad people in it)]] whether he IS (or it)]], but it's quickly made clear that he's most definitely just a sociopath psycopath with a [[AGodAmI God Complex]]) [[InternetBackdraft is open for debate...]]
Complex]].
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* Light Yagami of ''DeathNote'' ''thinks'' he's this... claiming he wants [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to make a better world (by killing off all the bad people in it)]] whether he IS (or just a sociopath with a [[AGodAmI God Complex]]) [[InternetBackdraft is open for debate...]]
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* Toxin from ''Spiderman'' is a morally upright police officer that [[ClothesMakeTheManiac ends up with a symbiote]] and decides to use it to do good.
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* Toxin from ''Spiderman'' is a morally upright police officer that [[ClothesMakeTheManiac ends up with a symbiote]] and decides to use it to do good.
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* Light Yagami of ''DeathNote'' ''thinks'' he's this... ''DeathNote'', he decides to use the titular ArtifactOfDoom [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to make the world a better place (by killing off all the bad people in it.)]]
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* Light Yagami of ''DeathNote'' ''thinks'' he's this... he decides to use the titular ArtifactOfDoom [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to make the world a better place (by killing off all the bad people in it.)]]
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*** See also ''[[{{Diablo}} Diablo II]]''.
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* Raven in ''TeenTitans'', daughter of the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demonic]] Trigon and intended to serve in destroying the world. Instead, she opposes him and fights for good with the other Titans.
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* [[DarkIsNotEvil Raven]] in ''TeenTitans'', daughter of the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demonic]] Trigon and intended to serve in destroying the world. Instead, she opposes him and fights for good with the other Titans.
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* Possibly applies to the DC character Mister Bones. He is a walking skeleton (his skin and organs are transparent) and he has a deadly "cyanide touch" that can kill almost anyone he comes in contact with. Needless to say, he began as a villain. However, he has since reformed and is now the director of the DEO, a government department that deals with superheroes. He may not be unambiguously heroic, but is typically on the side of the good guys, or at least not actively against them.
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*** Rogue is less like this trope than she is like a subversion of BadPowersBadPeople. Her powers are stealing memories and "life-energy" by touch (that is, when she touches someone she can temporarily imitate their physical ability and access their memories and any superpowers they had, but they'll be in a brief coma), but one day she stole enough of a person, and that person was a particularly altruistic superhero, that she was motivated to became one herself.
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* A young nobleman you encounter in ''{{NIER}}'' fits this description. Going by the name of Emil, he's even-tempered and very gentle, but he also possesses a set of cursed eyes that instantly petrify anyone he looks at. He lives alone in a remote mansion with his faithful butler because he's afraid of accidentally petrifying anyone he gets near. Eventually, however, he finds a certain amount of joy in using his powers to aid your quest, stating directly that it's nice to be able to put them to good use for once.
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* ''SoulEater'', everyone, heroes and villains alike, is either a human who can [[LivingWeapon turn into a weapon]] and powers up by eating souls or someone who wields them. The main difference is [[AcceptableTargets who's souls they eat]].
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