History Main / ArrogantGodVsRagingMonster

** In King Kong vs Godzilla, King Kong is worshipped as a god on Faro Island and is portrayed as unstoppable. Once he goes up against the Raging Monster Godzilla, he's easily sent fleeing for his life, terrified of Godzilla's atomic breath and power. In the remake Godzilla vs Kong, this is reversed. Godzilla is likened multiple times to a god, an ancient beast that's beaten monsters far worse than Kong. But Kong's species once hunted Godzilla's kind and Kong has one of the axes made from those bones. In their final clash, Kong refuses to submit to Godzilla no matter how much Godzilla stomps on him.

* ''Literature/{{Worm}}'': The arrogant superhero Armsmaster helps in the fight against the [[{{Kaiju}} Endbringer]] Leviathan and seems to be beating him singlehandedly despite his great power, bragging all the while about how the Endbringer is too dumb to be able to fight back against Armsmaster's strategy. However Leviathan turns out to be [[ItCanThink smarter than he seems]] and turns the fight around.

* In ''Website/SCPFoundation'' this occurs few times SCP-076 - Able faced SCP-682 - Hard-to-Destroy Reptile. 076 is a OneManArmy BloodKnight who lives solely for seeking a WorthyOpponnent and is the Biblical Able, rendered immortal and ''pissed''. 682 is a giant lizard with AdaptativeAbility that [[AbsoluteXenophobe hates all life]]. They're both different flavor of TheBerserker, but Able can sometimes be reasoned with and tends to look down towards 682, usually before finding out the lizard earned its name.

* In ''Film/{{Rocky}}'', Rocky Balboa is the story's Raging Monster: he expects to lose to the undisputed champion Apollo Creed, [[DeterminedDefeatist but resolves to give it his all]]. Creed, as the Arrogant God, arranged the fight as a lark--he virtually ignores Balboa until the match starts. Big mistake: the [[UnskilledButStrong amateurish]] but [[MadeOfIron steely]] challenger gives him the fight of his life.

* In ''Film/{{Rocky}}'', Rocky Balboa is the story's Raging Monster: he expects to lose to the undisputed champion Apollo Creed, [[DeterminedDefeatist but decides to give it his all]]. Creed, as the Arrogant God, arranged the fight as a lark--he virtually ignores Balboa until the match starts. Big mistake: the [[UnskilledButStrong amateurish]] but [[MadeOfIron steely]] challenger gives him the fight of his life... he even hands Creed his first knockdown.

*** The fights between the Hulk and [[IncredibleHercules Hercules]] are also this. With Hercules being an arrogant god with thousands of years of traning and fighting experience. The Hulk matches that with rage and his growing power.

*** The Hulk also gets this subverted with Zeus, TopGod of the Greek pantheon (and thus a literal arrogant god). Despite warnings from [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules Hercules]], Hulk decides to mouth off to Zeus and give him an ultimatum: help his suffering family, ''or else''. Zeus is so enraged by the insult that he converts his massive cosmic power into raw muscle just to [[BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame humiliate the Hulk with brute force]]. The result is a CurbStompBattle that leaves the Hulk broken, bloody, and thoroughly beaten.

* In ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly'', this happens to Goku with Broly. Goku has trained for years, becoming one of the most powerful beings in the universe, testing his mettle against gods and other mighty mortals. Meanwhile, Broly's power comes naturally (in a sense given how he's basically an unusually strong saiyan, a mutant of sorts) and when he powers up, it's done in a similar fashion to the Oozaru, so he becomes overwhelmed by emotions and rage. So at the time of confronting each other, the skilled and powerful Goku can't completely believe how Broly is giving him such a beating so easily. [[spoiler: It takes Goku and Vegeta fusing to become Gogeta and going to Super Saiyan Blue to beat Broly hard enough to calm him down. Goku gives Broly nicer living conditions for him and his friends and has developed a bond enough to call himself Kakarot to Broly.]]
* In ''Literature/FateZero'', Gilgamesh is by far the most powerful of the Servants invoked, and in general, of the whole Fate universe. Still, even if not capable of beating him, the anger-crazed Berserker is one of the few able to not only keep up with him, but anger Gilgamesh enough to make him lose his cool, forcing him to open the Gate of Babylon almost entirely. Arriving to a point where Gilgamesh has to struggle to even land a hit on him, while Berserker struggles to even get near Gilgamesh.

** Endeavor, [[spoiler:formally the Number Two Hero, and now Number One]], is pitted against the High-End Nomu known as Hood. While his arrogance has lessened [[spoiler:since becoming Number One]], his [[PlayingWithFire power]] is not to be understated. Hood is a highly aggressive engineered mutant with familiar, but stronger abilities than the USJ Nomu mentioned above. And He has an unending hungry for fighting strong opponents. Like the USJ Nomu, Hood came close to killing Endeavor, but the latter successfully destroyed Hood by burning him so intensely that he couldn't regenerate from it.

** Pain, the ostensible leader of the Akatsuki, has a nihilistic god-complex and the power to back it up courtesy of his [[MagicalEye Rinnegan]]. After levelling Konoha, he deliberately pushes Naruto past the breaking point by impaling Hinata in front of him. Thinking Hinata has been killed, Naruto is so enraged that he enters into his six-tailed Version 2 form and almost fully unleashes Kurama to get revenge.
* Almost an EnforcedTrope in ''Literature/HighSchoolDXD''. [[ManaDrain Divine Dividing]] is the "Arrogant God", capable of stealing half the opponent's power to fuel the wielder's technical skills. [[GatheringSteam Boosted Gear]] is the "Raging Monster", doubling the holder's power every ten seconds to obvious effect. It's further reinforced in the current generation, where Divine Dividing is held by [[TheRival Vali Lucifer]], a BornWinner with enough Devil-power to fuel usually suicidal abilities with no drawback and plenty of experience as a SpiritedCompetitor[=/=]BloodKnight. Meanwhile Boosted Gear belongs to [[TheHero Issei Hyoudou]], a completely unremarkable human who couldn't even manifest his Sacred Gear until after his FirstEpisodeResurrection. Their fights make Issei realize that having SuccessThroughInsanity is only going to get him out alive so many times, and as soon as he's trained enough brute strength to avoid a HeroicRROD the first thing he does is start including more technique in his regimen. This makes him [[BoxingLessonsForSuperman exactly as dangerous as it sounds]].

*** Every fight between the Hulk and ComicBook/TheMightyThor is basically this. While most of them end inconclusively, and the question of who is strongest [[EvasiveFightThreadEpisode is left unanswered on purpose]], the sometimes arrogant Thor can't stand how the child-brained Hulk keeps on proclaiming himself to be the strongest, and neither can the Hulk stand the idea of not being able to lift Thor's hammer. While it is true Thor possesses a greater variety of powers, the Hulk's ever increasing strength through rage keeps proving to make him more than a match for Thor.
*** The Hulk also gets this subverted with Zeus, TopGod of the Greek pantheon (and thus a literal arrogant god). Despite warnings from [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules Hercules]], Hulk decides to mouth off to Zeus and give him an ultimatum: help his suffering family, ''or else''. Zeus is so enraged by the insult that he converts his massive cosmic power into raw muscle just to [[BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame humiliate the Hulk with brute force]]. The result is a CurbStompBattle that leaves the Hulk broken, bloody and completely beaten.
*** [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] depending on what version of the Hulk is fighting. As Bruce Banner has DDI and many alters, each Hulk has different traits. Joe Fixit is WeakButSkilled compared to the other hulk as he's a cunning and dirty fighter, The Professor is a JackOfAllStats while [[GeniusBruiser retaining Bruce's intellect]], World Breaker Hulk is easily strong enough to best most gods but his power tends to be uncontrollable and dangerous to everyone around him, of course then there's... The Devil/Immortal Hulk. The Immortal Hulk is more like a god or a demon in that he has explicitly mystical qualities, has resurrective immortality, can be dismembered and still move his bits and pieces which will rejoin if free and close together, can see into souls and smell the lies on people, and is so strong he can crack Thor's skull and beat him with one punch. Then again it may not be a SubvertedTrope in the immortal Hulk's case as he is very intelligent and enjoys BreakThemByTalking along with being a SoftSpokenSadist to his enemies.
** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'s rivalry with telepathic SerialKiller "Mr. X". X is a master martial artist that has been practically undefeated due to his skills and low level telepathic powers, that allows for him to predict anyone's moves. Wolverine is also a great martial artist, but is more famous for his attacks of rage, while also possessing a superior healing factor, and a high tolerance to pain and damage. In their first fight, X beats Wolverine easily. But in their second Wolverine is berserking and X can't adequately read his mind to predict his actions. In their third, Wolverine figures it out halfway through and intentionally goes berserk.
* ''ComicBook/GodzillaRageAcrossTime'' has a literal example. Godzilla appears in ancient Greece and has already decimated Poseidon, Ares, The Hydra and almost the entire pantheon. [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly The fact that the gods are weakened by a lack of prayer doesn't help.]] Only the [[TopGod arrogant Zeus]] remains to take down the {{Kaiju}}. Zeus barely wins by channeling all his power in one lightning strike, but this leaves him depowered and brought down to human level. [[NotQuiteDead However, Godzilla isn't dead yet.]] Years later, Godzilla kills Zeus when he comes exploding out of Mount Vesuvius when the depowered Zeus was in Pompeii.

** Second is in ''Film/ThorRagnarok'', when Hulk and Thor are both stranded on The Grandmaster's world and forced to participate in his gladiator games. Thor doesn't have his hammer this time, and tries to avoid the fight, but Hulk is too eager for a rematch to listen. Thor actually manages to get the upper hand, but the Grandmaster interferes before Thor can win.

** In King Kong vs Godzilla, King Kong is worshipped as a god on Faro Island and is portrayed as unstoppable. Once he goes up against the Raging Monster Godzilla, he's easily sent fleeing for his life, terrified of Godzilla's atomic breath and power. In the remake Godzilla vs Kong, this is reversed. Godzilla is likened multiple times to a god, an ancient beast that's beaten monsters far worse than Kong. But Kong's species once hunted Godzilla's kind and Kong has one of the axes made from those bones. In their final clash Kong refuses to submit to Godzilla no matter how much Godzilla stomps on him.
** This also goes for Godzilla and King Ghidorah in nearly every continuity. Ghidorah is the arrogant god from another world, with a noble appearance contrasting his horrific cruelty. In the Showa continuity he's killed entire worlds, yet somehow he can't seem to kill Godzilla. Godzilla meanwhile is the monster, whose scarred appearance and UnstoppableRage contrast his own redeeming qualities.

* ''VideoGame/MegaManX4'' reveals that [[spoiler:Sigma and Zero fought before the former went mad and became the series BigBad and the latter became a Maverick Hunter. Before X1, [[FallenHero Sigma]] was the noble commander of the Maverick Hunters and the most powerful Reploid built at the time. Once he learned of a "Red Maverick" wrecking havoc and killing Reploids, he voluntarily set out to take care of him on his own to prevent more lives from being lost. Zero, the [[TheBerserker Red Maverick]] who was built by Dr. Wily a century prior, had a program error in his brain that made him violently attack anything that moved, thus he showed no fear or hesitation as he charged at the more experienced Sigma in a blind rage. Sigma, instead of finishing Zero off from the start with his LaserBlade, chose to fight hand to hand, waiting until Zero had an improvised weapon before drawing his own. For a while, they were evenly matched, with Sigma having a slight edge, until Zero gained the upper hand and savagely beat Sigma until his arm was ripped off, and half his was torn. Had the Wily symbol, which acted as a fail-safe, not caused Zero enough pain to make him stop, Sigma would have lost his life. Though he won the fight by knocking him out, this event led to Sigma being infected by the Maverick Virus due to being in close proximity to Zero.]]

* In ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'', All Might is renowned as the most powerful and charismatic hero in Japan, if not the world, to the point that [[HopeBringer everyone is absolutely convinced]] that things will be alright with him around. Even as his power wanes from his injury and giving One For All to Midoriya, virtually nothing can truly stop him aside from his [[HourOfPower time limit]]. The first thing shown in the story to actually give him a challenge is the mindless Nomu, a monstrous being engineered to fight him through a combination of SuperStrength and SuperSpeed to match him blow-for-blow as well as a HealingFactor and shock absorption to NoSell his attacks. Even then, All Might manages to win a hard-fought brawl that ends with the Nomu being punted out of a massive training facility the size of an amusement park.

* In ''Franchise/Godzilla'', this is the dynamic between Godzilla and Kong, although who's who depends on which version of the film you're watching. In King Kong vs Godzilla, King Kong is worshipped as a god on Faro Island and is portrayed as unstoppable. Once he goes up against the Raging Monster Godzilla, he's easily sent fleeing for his life, terrified of Godzilla's atomic breath and power. In the remake Godzilla vs Kong, this is reversed. Godzilla is likened multiple times to a god, an ancient beast that's beaten monsters far worse than Kong. But Kong's species once hunted Godzilla's kind and Kong has one of the axes made from those bones. In their final clash Kong refuses to submit to Godzilla no matter how much Godzilla stomps on him.

* In ''LightNovel/FateZero'', Gilgamesh is by far the most powerful of the Servants invoked, and in general, of the whole Fate universe. Still, even if not capable of beating him, the anger-crazed Berserker is one of the few able to not only keep up with him, but anger Gilgamesh enough to make him lose his cool, forcing him to open the Gate of Babylon almost entirely. Arriving to a point where Gilgamesh has to struggle to even land a hit on him, while Berserker struggles to even get near Gilgamesh.

* Almost an EnforcedTrope in ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDXD''. [[ManaDrain Divine Dividing]] is the "Arrogant God", capable of stealing half the opponent's power to fuel the wielder's technical skills. [[GatheringSteam Boosted Gear]] is the "Raging Monster", doubling the holder's power every ten seconds to obvious effect. It's further reinforced in the current generation, where Divine Dividing is held by [[TheRival Vali Lucifer]], a BornWinner with enough Devil-power to fuel usually suicidal abilities with no drawback and plenty of experience as a SpiritedCompetitor[=/=]BloodKnight. Meanwhile Boosted Gear belongs to [[TheHero Issei Hyoudou]], a completely unremarkable human who couldn't even manifest his Sacred Gear until after his FirstEpisodeResurrection. Their fights make Issei realize that having SuccessThroughInsanity is only going to get him out alive so many times, and as soon as he's trained enough brute strength to avoid a HeroicRROD the first thing he does is start including more technique in his regimen. This makes him [[BoxingLessonsForSuperman exactly as dangerous as it sounds]].

-->--'''Thor''', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateAvengers''

* In ''Film/{{Rocky}}'', Rocky Balboa is the story's Raging Monster: he expects to lose to the undisputed champion Apollo Creed, [[DeterminedDefeatist but he'll give it his all]]. Creed, as the Arrogant God, arranged the fight as a lark--he virtually ignores Balboa until the match starts. Big mistake: the [[UnskilledButStrong amateurish]] but [[MadeOfIron steely]] challenger gives him the fight of his life.

* ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' casts the Raging Monster as the protagonist. Rocky Balboa knows he can't beat the undisputed boxing champ Apollo Creed, but [[DeterminedDefeatist he'll try his best, even if it kills him]]. Creed, the Arrogant God, pretty much arranged the fight as a lark; he sees Rocky as no threat. This costs him when the [[UnskilledButStrong amateurish]] but [[MadeOfIron steely]] challenger gives him the fight of his life.

* ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDXD'':
** Almost an EnforcedTrope. [[ManaDrain Divine Dividing]] is the "Arrogant God", capable of stealing half the opponent's power to fuel the wielder's technical skills. [[GatheringSteam Boosted Gear]] is the "Raging Monster", doubling the holder's power every ten seconds to obvious effect. It's further reinforced in the current generation, where Divine Dividing is held by [[TheRival Vali Lucifer]], a BornWinner with enough Devil-power to fuel usually suicidal abilities with no drawback and plenty of experience as a SpiritedCompetitor[=/=]BloodKnight. Meanwhile Boosted Gear belongs to [[TheHero Issei Hyoudou]], a completely unremarkable human who couldn't even manifest his Sacred Gear until after his FirstEpisodeResurrection.
** As the plot wears on, the trope gets examined further. In particular, their fights make Issei realize that having SuccessThroughInsanity is only going to get him out alive so many times, and as soon as he's trained enough brute strength to avoid a HeroicRROD the first thing he does is start including more technique in his regimen. This makes him [[BoxingLessonsForSuperman exactly as dangerous as it sounds]].

* ''VideoGame/MegaManX4'' reveals that [[spoiler:Sigma and Zero fought before the former went mad and became the series BigBad and the latter becoming a Maverick Hunter. Before X1, Sigma was the noble commander of the Maverick Hunters and the most powerful Reploid built at the time. Once he learned of a "Red Maverick" wrecking havoc and killing Reploids, he voluntarily set out to take care of him on his own to prevent more lives being lost. Zero, the [[TheBerserker Red Maverick]] who was built by Dr. Wily a century prior, had a program error in his brain that made him violent to anything that moved, thus he showed no fear or hesitation as he charged at the more experienced Sigma in a blind rage. Sigma, instead of finishing Zero off from the start with his LaserBlade, chose to fight hand to hand, waiting until Zero had an improvised weapons before drawing his own. For a while, they were even matched, with Sigma having a slight edge, until Zero gained the upper hand and savagely beat Sigma until his arm was ripped off, and half his was torn. Had the Wily symbol, which acted a fail-safe, not caused Zero enough pain to make him stop, Sigma would have lost his life. Though he won the fight by knocking him out, this event led to Sigma being infected by the Maverick Virus due to being in close proximity to Zero.]]

* ''Tabletop Game/Warhammer40000'': The Kroot creation myth described in the ''Liber Xenologis'' sets up this dynamic between the Kroot creator-goddess, Vawk the Huntress, and her enemy, Gmork the Destroyer. The two began battling as soon as they met, as Gmork replied to Vawk's offer of friendship with a savage attack, but neither could best the other: Gmork was ferocious, strong, and steadfast, while Vawk was cunning, agile and fast. They battled in a perfect standstill for ages, as their strengths and weaknesses precisely countered one another, until Vawk chanced to bite her foe and consume some of his strength alongside his blood, breaking the balance and allow her to defeat him.

* ''Videogame/BlazBlue:'' The third game introduces Azrael, a fighter with such [[SuperStrength phenomenal strength]], [[SuperToughness endurance]], and [[BloodKnight battle-lust]] that he can fight without any semblance of technique and still knock down virtually anyone who faces him - and that's with his PowerLimiter active so that he wouldn't knock his foes out too quickly. Hakumen, a strong and skilled legendary warrior himself, chooses to not engage him in a fight. Later, Azrael runs to Kagura, an ace fighter and Colonel of the NOL; when the two fight, Kagura can get around him with his skill, but Azrael can blow through Kagura's defenses with his strength. Kagura only defeats him by [[SheatheYourSword exploiting the fact that Azrael is under a geas that stops him from hurting anyone who isn't attacking him]], allowing Kokonoe to teleport him into her special prison. In the fourth game, Azrael frees himself and he and Kagura face each other again; this time the latter puts a better showing, forcing Azrael to unlock more of his limiters. Thankfully Jin comes and freezes him with his sword before he can go further.

A recurring rivalry where [[TheAce an almost unbeatable warrior]] who has more than enough years of battle experience up their sleeve is pitted against [[TheBerserker a contender who is probably too angry to know who they are dealing with]], yet possesses enough power to give the former a run for their money.

The main characteristic of this type of matchup is the contrast between these two opponents. The warrior often has an aura of nobility around them, and has earned the respect and fear of both enemies and friends alike. They easily surpass all others on the setting of the work -- with many comparing them to a Main/PhysicalGod if they already aren't one -- using not just their own strength, but also their intelligence and wit to gain the upper hand in a fight. The warrior knows this, and can often be [[SmugSuper quite smug about their skills]]. If in spite of their power they are shown to be humble, expect them to be [[TheParagon a virtuous and exemplary heroic figure]], that simply talks down to their enemies because [[DontMakeMeDestroyYou they don't want to hurt them]].

* Franchise/{{Superman}} has a mild example as Superman is not divine, but god-like, nor is he usually arrogant. Still, the Man of Steel has met many enemies who are brute strength and no brains. But only the mindless Doomsday, famous for clearing entire planets of all life, has given him such a fight that was not only able to "kill" Superman, but making him fear the idea of battling the monster again. When you can scare a guy capable of punching through planets and has many more powers than you, and then keep getting up immune to whatever of those powers he used to kill you last time, you know you are destined to fight each other quite a few times.

* In ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly'', this happens to Goku with Broly. Goku has trained for years, becoming one of the most powerful beings in the universe, testing his mettle against gods and other mighty mortals. Meanwhile, Broly's power comes naturally (in a sense given how he's basically an unusually strong saiyan, a mutant of sorts) and when he powers up, it's done in a similar fashion to the Oozaru, so he becomes overwhelmed by emotions and rage. So at the time of confronting each other, the skilled and powerful Goku can't completely believe how Broly is giving him such a beating so easily. [[spoiler: It takes Goku and Vegeta fusing to become Gogeta and going to Super Saiyan Blue to beat Broly hard enought to calm him down. Goku gives Broly nicer living conditions for him and his friends and has developed a bond enough to call himself Kakarot to Broly.]]

* In ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly'', this happens to Goku with Broly. Goku has trained for years, becoming one of the most powerful beings in the universe, testing his mettle against gods and other mighty mortals. Meanwhile, Broly's power comes naturally (in a sense given how he's basically an unusually strong saiyan, a mutant of sorts) and when he powers up, it's done in a similar fashion through the Oozaru, so he becomes overwhelmed by emotions and rage. So at the time of confronting each other, the skilled and powerful Goku can't completely believe how Broly is giving him such a beating so easily. [[spoiler: It takes Goku and Vegeta fusing to become Gogeta and going to Super Saiyan Blue to beat Broly hard enought to calm him down. Goku gives Broly nicer living conditions for him and his friends and has developed a bond enough to call himself Kakarot to Broly.]]

* Franchise/{{Superman}} has met many enemies who are brute strength and no brains. But only the mindless Doomsday, famous for clearing entire planets of all life, has given him such a fight that was not only able to "kill" Superman, but making him fear the idea of battling the monster again. When you can scare a guy capable of punching through planets and has many more powers than you, and then keep getting up immune to whatever of those powers he used to kill you last time, you know you are destined to fight each other quite a few times.

* ''ComicBook/GodzillaRageAcrossTime'' has a literal example. Godzilla appears in ancient Greece and has already decimated Poseidon, Ares, The Hydra and almost the entire pantheon. [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly The fact that the gods are weakened by a lack of prayer doesn't help.]] Only the [[TopGod arrogant Zeus]] remains to take down the {{Kaiju}}. Zeus barely wins by channeling all his power in one lightning strike, but this leaves him depowered and brought down to human level. [[NotQuiteDead However, Godzilla isn't dead yet...]]

** ''ComicBook/IncredibleHulk'':

*** Whilst Thor's brother Loki doesn't fit the martial warrior part of the trope, the dialogue when he meets Hulk during the Chitauri invasion sums up the trope perfectly. Loki starts a speech with the words "Enough! You are, all of you, beneath me! I am a god, you dull creature! And I will not be bullied–", only to be interrupted by Hulk repeatedly smashing him against the floor saying "Puny god."

* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': This trope describes the rivalry between main hero and leader of the titular Order, Roy, and his evil half-orc counterpart from the Linear Guild, Thog. Roy is an extremely skillful and intelligent warrior, having trained at "Fighter College" for years and also being an experienced and savvy adventurer. He is designed as a subversion of the typical DumbMuscle fighter PlayerCharacter which has {{Min Max}}ed all brute strength and no Intelligence while Thog is the ''embodiment'' of that stereotype. Roy ''despises'' Thog for this as well for being a monstrous individual who kills when bored. Thog meanwhile is really too dumb to hate Roy, calling him "talky man." During a colosseum match between the two, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0791.html Roy brags about having Intelligence on his side]] and Thog runs down the list of the potential advantages Roy could gain from Intelligence, but doesn't (prestige class, damage rolls, armor class, saving rolls) before chiding him that Thog is smarter for the [[AttackAttackAttack simplicity of his approach]]. Additionally, after Roy breaks his tusk, Thog enters into an UnstoppableRage that he beats Roy almost motionless and only continues to beat him for "talking" when Roy tries to surrender. If not for the intervention of his teammates, Roy would have been killed. Fortunately for him, however, the battle spills into the lower levels of the Colosseum, where Roy uses his intelligence to trick Thog into damaging the pillars supporting the ceiling, which then crumble and crush Thog. Exhausted and bruised, but victorious, Roy screams at his fallen adversary: "THAT'S how I use my Intelligence score in combat, DUMBASS!"