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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'': "Meanwhile" has a mascot in a GoofySuit make a full-sized balloon animal version of Leela in a matter of seconds. When Fry compliments him, he says "Five years of art school!", and laughs, before subsiding into quiet sobbing.

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** In "Crimes of the Hot", When scientists are being called to the global warming conference, this exchange occurs;
-->'''Homeopathic Doctor:''' I have a degree in homeopathic medicine.\\
'''Civil Defense Van:''' You've got a degree in baloney! ''[Hoses down doctor]''
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"Meanwhile" has a mascot in a GoofySuit make a full-sized balloon animal version of Leela in a matter of seconds. When Fry compliments him, he says "Five years of art school!", and laughs, before subsiding into quiet sobbing.
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* Gustav of ''WebAnimation/SCPAnimatedTalesFromTheFoundation'' works for an organization where you expect researches and assistants to have some form of scientific major. Gustav's major in college? ''Theatre ''.
-->'''Dr. Buck''': I'm sure your mother was...very proud?
-->'''Gustav''': She...wasn't.

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* Gustav of ''WebAnimation/SCPAnimatedTalesFromTheFoundation'' works for an organization where you expect researches researchers and assistants to have some form of scientific major. Gustav's major in college? ''Theatre ''.
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-->'''Dr. Buck''': I'm sure your mother was...very proud?
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The crux behind this trope, both in fiction and real life, tends to center around the choice of studies in comparison to the dismal market for those studies. If a well-paid job requires a degree, and such as a lawyer, doctor and engineer, and there are many jobs available, the likelihood of acquiring the job is greatly improved after 4-8 years of study and tons of student debt. Of course, people can go to college/university for far more reasons than getting a bigger paycheck; personal fulfillment, joy of learning, gaining life experience by living in a college town, working on big projects with deadlines and [[BasementDweller moving away from home]] can all be of similar benefit regardless of the degree acquired.

But some majors have little workplace potential because of being too abstract or general, creating a circular system where the best option is to turn around and teach the same subject to the next generation. As a result, people getting degrees in areas with poor job prospects (fine arts, music, philosophy, etc) may get a Bachelors and then graduate degrees, and then become a low-paid, precarious sessional college instructor and train more people for the same dismal job prospects.

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The crux behind this trope, both in fiction and real life, tends to center around the choice of studies in comparison to the dismal market for those studies. If a well-paid job requires a degree, and such as a lawyer, doctor and engineer, and there are many jobs available, the likelihood of acquiring the job is greatly improved after 4-8 years of study and tons of student debt. Of course, people can go to college/university for far more reasons than getting a bigger paycheck; personal fulfillment, joy of learning, gaining life experience by living in a college town, working on big projects with deadlines and [[BasementDweller moving away from home]] can all be of similar benefit regardless of the degree acquired.

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acquired, but some majors have little workplace potential because of being too abstract or general, creating a circular system where the best option is to turn around and teach the same subject to the next generation. As a result, people getting degrees in areas with poor job prospects (fine arts, music, philosophy, etc) may get a Bachelors and then graduate degrees, and then become a low-paid, precarious sessional college instructor and train more people for the same dismal job prospects.
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* The "Wattsamatta U" arc of ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'' poked fun at the notion of college athletes who go to college purely to be athletes. While Bullwinkle's degree is never explicitly mentioned, once the staff learn he's there to play football, they set him a curriculum involving things like knitting (which he states is his hardest class) and classical literature (meaning books normally means for teaching first graders ''how'' to read).
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* ''ComicStrip/SabrinaAtSeeCAD'': The conversation between Eric and Sabrina at the end of the series.
-->'''Sabrina: '''"So where do you go from here?"
-->'''Eric: '''"I think UsefulNotes/TacoBell has an opening."
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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! [[FutureLoser What a loser!]] First, all your peers will laugh at you for partying (or having your head in the clouds) instead of studying for a ''real'', useful degree. Then, you'll find that it's impossible to find work in your field, and end up working at BurgerFool for the rest of your life -- [[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt assuming even the Burger Fool will hire you!]] Of course, if you are lucky you can become a MadScientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there. The only thing worse for an Education Mama than her children not doing well in school is majoring in one of these.

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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! [[FutureLoser What a loser!]] First, all your peers will laugh at you for partying (or having your head in the clouds) instead of studying for a ''real'', useful degree. Then, you'll find that it's impossible to find work in your field, and end up working at BurgerFool for the rest of your life -- [[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt assuming even the Burger Fool will hire you!]] Of course, if you are lucky you can become a MadScientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there. The only thing worse for an Education Mama EducationMama than her children not doing well in school is majoring in one of these.
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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! [[FutureLoser What a loser!]] First, all your peers will laugh at you for partying (or having your head in the clouds) instead of studying for a ''real'', useful degree. Then, you'll find that it's impossible to find work in your field, and end up working at BurgerFool for the rest of your life -- [[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt assuming even the Burger Fool will hire you!]] Of course, if you are lucky you can become a MadScientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there.

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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! [[FutureLoser What a loser!]] First, all your peers will laugh at you for partying (or having your head in the clouds) instead of studying for a ''real'', useful degree. Then, you'll find that it's impossible to find work in your field, and end up working at BurgerFool for the rest of your life -- [[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt assuming even the Burger Fool will hire you!]] Of course, if you are lucky you can become a MadScientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there.
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->''"You are a genius if you can finish a five-year course in ancient Babylonian astrology in only two years.\\
You are an idiot if you think anyone is going to hire a guy with a major in ancient Babylonian astrology."''

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an idiot if you think anyone is going to hire you'll ever get a guy good job with a major college degree in ancient Ancient Babylonian astrology.Astrology."''
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* Subverted in the ''Literature/MercyThompson'' novels. Mercy has a degree in mythology, which is not useful in her job as an auto mechanic, but so many of the people she interacts with on a daily basis [[PalsWithJesus are actually ancient mythological figures]] that it's very useful for her to know about, for example, the lore of a magic cup made by [[TheFairFolk the fae]] or a volcano god from the Canary Islands.
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** In in his song [[Music/{{Alpocalypse}} "Skipper Dan"]], about a theater prodigy working a dead-end job on a Ride/{{Disneyland}} Jungle Cruise ride:

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* An ordinary degree may only qualify you to ask “Would you like fries with that?”, but a degree in philosophy makes you able to ask some of the deep questions of life, such as, “ ''Why '' would you like fries with that?”

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* An ordinary degree may only qualify you to ask “Would you like fries with that?”, but a degree in philosophy makes you able to ask some of the deep questions of life, such as, “ ''Why '' "''Why'' would you like fries with that?”that?"
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* Getting a degree in philosophy makes you able to ask the deep questions of life, such as, “ ''Why '' would you like fries with that?”

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* Getting An ordinary degree may only qualify you to ask “Would you like fries with that?”, but a degree in philosophy makes you able to ask some of the deep questions of life, such as, “ ''Why '' would you like fries with that?”
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* Getting a degree in philosophy makes you able to ask the deep questions of life, such as, “ ''Why '' would you like fries with that?”
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* This is involved in the premise of ''Manga/TheFullTimeWifeEscapist''. The protagonist Mikuri is actually a certified psychologist with a MA degree... but at 25 she still couldn't find a real job; at the beginning of the series, she was fired from her temp office-lady position and has to work as a house cleaner.
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* ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDeadTelltale'': In the final episode of Season 2, Clementine and the other survivors are spending the night at an abandoned power station, and while they're talking around the campfire, Luke brings up college and remarks that his liberal arts degree isn't doing him much good [[ZombieApocalypse these days.]] Kenny, predictably, considers college to have been a waste of money regardless.
--> '''Kenny''': Sounds like you majored in working in a coffee shop!
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* ''WebVideo/SolidJJ'': "Duel Academy is for Suckers" has [[Anime/YuGiOhGX Jaden and Syrus]] on the verge of graduation but having second thoughts since all that Duel Academy prepared them for is professional dueling. Dr. Crowler told them that they can teach it instead, and this is the only place that does it. Initially subverted with Dr. Sheppard who went through Duel Academy then became a chancellor at an Ivy League institution, before being double subverted when he mentioned that he got kicked out for doctoring his credentials and that his only career choices were either [=McDonald's=] or Duel Academy.
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* [[https://youtu.be/tu3v87_97Hc Averted in this sketch]] from ''Series/StudioC'' where a philosophy major is guarding the inside of a bank vault.

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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! [[FutureLoser What a loser!]] First, all your peers will laugh at you for partying instead of studying for a ''real'' degree. Then, you'll find that it's impossible to find work in your field, and end up working at BurgerFool for the rest of your life -- [[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt assuming even the Burger Fool will hire you!]] Of course, if you are lucky you can become a MadScientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there.

In short, this is a college degree in a subject that is worth less (at least, financially speaking) than the paper it is printed on, and ''much'' less than the cash you paid for it. A common use is to have the guy describe his achievements: "Yeah, graduated top three of my class, BA in Arts, my professors predicting me an easy future and all that. Would you like fries with that?".

The crux behind this trope, both in fiction and real life, tends to center around the choice of studies in comparison to the job market applicable to those studies. If a job requires a degree, such as a lawyer, doctor and engineer, the likelihood of acquiring the job is infinitely improved after 4-8 years of study and tons of student debt. Of course, people can go to college/university for far more reasons than getting a bigger paycheck; personal fulfillment, life experience, working on projects with deadlines and [[BasementDweller moving away from home]] can all be of similar benefit regardless of the degree acquired. But often it's said that some majors have little workplace potential because of being too abstract or general, creating a circular system where the best option is to turn around and teach the same subject to the next generation. See [[Analysis/ADegreeInUseless Analysis]] tab for more.

All that said, advanced degrees often accumulate undergrad coursework that will help them get into a good graduate program but not help them in the job market at that point in time. Most Liberal Arts degrees such as English, Literature, Sociology and Philosophy can be parlayed into graduate programs as diverse as Journalism, Law and Political Science. Universities aim to create well-rounded students, so they require at least two years of general education before they focus on their majors. Students majoring in the arts have exposure to the hard sciences and vice versa. And even still, some creative application of the knowledge gained can be a great benefit when [[CripplingOverspecialization everyone else is locked into the same point of view]].

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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! [[FutureLoser What a loser!]] First, all your peers will laugh at you for partying (or having your head in the clouds) instead of studying for a ''real'' ''real'', useful degree. Then, you'll find that it's impossible to find work in your field, and end up working at BurgerFool for the rest of your life -- [[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt assuming even the Burger Fool will hire you!]] Of course, if you are lucky you can become a MadScientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there.

In short, this is a college degree in a subject that is worth less (at least, financially speaking) than the paper it is printed on, and ''much'' less than the cash tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dollars you paid for it. A common use is to have the guy describe his achievements: "Yeah, graduated top three of my class, BA in Arts, my professors predicting me an easy future and all that. that... Would you like fries with that?".

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The crux behind this trope, both in fiction and real life, tends to center around the choice of studies in comparison to the job dismal market applicable to for those studies. If a well-paid job requires a degree, and such as a lawyer, doctor and engineer, and there are many jobs available, the likelihood of acquiring the job is infinitely greatly improved after 4-8 years of study and tons of student debt. Of course, people can go to college/university for far more reasons than getting a bigger paycheck; personal fulfillment, joy of learning, gaining life experience, experience by living in a college town, working on big projects with deadlines and [[BasementDweller moving away from home]] can all be of similar benefit regardless of the degree acquired. acquired.

But often it's said that some majors have little workplace potential because of being too abstract or general, creating a circular system where the best option is to turn around and teach the same subject to the next generation. As a result, people getting degrees in areas with poor job prospects (fine arts, music, philosophy, etc) may get a Bachelors and then graduate degrees, and then become a low-paid, precarious sessional college instructor and train more people for the same dismal job prospects.
See [[Analysis/ADegreeInUseless Analysis]] tab for more.

All that said, advanced degrees often accumulate undergrad coursework that will help them get into a good graduate program but not help them in the job market at that point in time. Most Liberal Arts degrees such as English, Literature, Sociology literature, sociology and Philosophy philosophy can be parlayed into graduate programs as diverse as Journalism, Law and Political Science.journalism, law, political science or public administration. Universities aim to create well-rounded students, so they require at least two years of general education before they focus on their majors. Students majoring in the arts have exposure to the hard sciences and vice versa. And even still, some creative application of the knowledge gained can be a great benefit when [[CripplingOverspecialization everyone else is locked into the same point of view]].
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* ''Series/GhostsUS'': Todd majored in dance and minored in classics. After graduating, he's a wannabe historian who lives with his mother and who works as a waiter at Bennigan's.
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* In the NSFW comic ''Moon Over June'', Greenbird University specializes in these kind of degrees, with departments such as astrology, cryptozoology, paranormal investigation, and Nostradamus Studies on offer. The only 'normal' degrees are for arts and mathematics. [[spoiler:Hatsuki would later start offering a degree in Erotic Studies in order to keep herself from being fired for working in porn.]]
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* In one of Creator/AliWong's sets she considers her BA in Ethnic Studies, a degree where "you study how to blame everything on white people", a degree that wasn't expected to make money.
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** In in his song "Skipper Dan", about a theater prodigy working on a Disneyland Jungle Cruise ride:

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** In in his song [[Music/{{Alpocalypse}} "Skipper Dan", Dan"]], about a theater prodigy working a dead-end job on a Disneyland Ride/{{Disneyland}} Jungle Cruise ride:

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* Humourously referenced in ''VideoGame/{{Paradigm}}'' where the makers of [[DesignerBaby designer babies]] boast that their children will never waste their parents' money on liberal arts degrees.

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* Humourously Humorously referenced in ''VideoGame/{{Paradigm}}'' where the makers of [[DesignerBaby designer babies]] boast that their children will never waste their parents' money on liberal arts degrees.degrees.
* In ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'', if you take the art classes at the academy, Hassel admits that most students will probably forget everything he taught them after they graduate. [[DownplayedTrope That said]], he does try to get his students to use an artist's eye for detail in practical ways, such as identifying Tera Types easily.
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* ''Series/YoungSheldon'': In "A Baby Shower and Testosterone-Rich Banter", Connor [=McAllister=] is described by Jim as an art school graduate with no prospect of ever holding a real job.
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* Q: How do you get a philosophy major off your porch?
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See HardOnSoftScience for when scientists invoke this on other scientists. Related to ClassicallyTrainedExtra. The WorthlessForeignDegree is when you run into trouble not because of ''what'' you studied, but ''where'' you studied. Compare NotThatKindOfDoctor, where people assume you are a physician when your doctorate was in literature. See also ExpertInUnderwaterBasketWeaving for other useless skills and talents. Contrast IMinoredInTropology, where the "useless" topic isn't as maligned so much as catches others off guard.

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See HardOnSoftScience for when scientists invoke this on other scientists. Related to ClassicallyTrainedExtra. The WorthlessForeignDegree is when you run into trouble not because of ''what'' you studied, but ''where'' you studied. Compare NotThatKindOfDoctor, where people assume you are a physician when your doctorate was in literature. See also ExpertInUnderwaterBasketWeaving for other useless skills and talents. Compare TechnicianVersusPerformer when there is a contrast between training and knowledge vs experience and skill. Contrast IMinoredInTropology, where the "useless" topic isn't as maligned so much as catches others off guard.
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All that said, advanced degrees often accumulate undergrad coursework that will help them get into a good graduate program but not help them in the job market at that point in time, English and Literature degrees can lead to Journalism. Universities aim to create well-rounded students, so they require at least two years of general education before they focus on their majors. Students majoring in the arts have exposure to the hard sciences and vice versa. And even still, some creative application of the knowledge gained can be a great benefit when [[CripplingOverspecialization everyone else is locked into the same point of view]].

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All that said, advanced degrees often accumulate undergrad coursework that will help them get into a good graduate program but not help them in the job market at that point in time, English and Literature time. Most Liberal Arts degrees such as English, Literature, Sociology and Philosophy can lead to Journalism.be parlayed into graduate programs as diverse as Journalism, Law and Political Science. Universities aim to create well-rounded students, so they require at least two years of general education before they focus on their majors. Students majoring in the arts have exposure to the hard sciences and vice versa. And even still, some creative application of the knowledge gained can be a great benefit when [[CripplingOverspecialization everyone else is locked into the same point of view]].

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Of course, people go to college/university for far more reasons than getting a bigger paycheck at the end of it; in terms of personal fulfillment, a person may gain much from their liberal arts degree. From another angle, many students seeking advanced degrees often accumulate classes that will help them get into a good graduate program but not help them in the job market at that point in time. There are a lot of different majors that are subject to such ridicule, being hopelessly specific or too generic to offer you any advancement. See [[Analysis/ADegreeInUseless Analysis]] tab for more.

Another thing is, even for degrees which seem more useful at the beginning of this century (technical degrees), you frequently '''need''' other subjects as well. You like Informatics, for example? That can be paired with Linguistics (translator engines, natural language processing), Psychology (user interface design, advertisements), Biology (medical devices), Arts (colour theory, computer graphics), Humanities (digital humanities), English (technical writing), Law (patent law), Philosophy (information ethics)... and a host of others, as long as you're willing to look for examples. The point is, you'll find almost every study subject is intertwined with others the more complex it gets.

And even if some university degree ''sounds'' useless, it doesn't mean that it actually is (after all, those who actually studied it may know better), or that it will continue to be in the future (the current huge demand for technical degrees may cause humanitarian degrees to be more sought after in the future). People who have bachelor's degrees and advanced degrees [[https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2018/data-on-display/education-pays.htm earn more]] over their lifetimes across the board compared to those who have a high school education or less, regardless of field of study.

Also bear in mind that American universities aim to create well-rounded students, so they require at least two years of general education before they focus on their majors. Students majoring in the arts have exposure to the hard sciences and vice versa.

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The crux behind this trope, both in fiction and real life, tends to center around the choice of studies in comparison to the job market applicable to those studies. If a job requires a degree, such as a lawyer, doctor and engineer, the likelihood of acquiring the job is infinitely improved after 4-8 years of study and tons of student debt. Of course, people can go to college/university for far more reasons than getting a bigger paycheck at the end of it; in terms of paycheck; personal fulfillment, a person may gain much life experience, working on projects with deadlines and [[BasementDweller moving away from their liberal arts degree. From another angle, many students seeking home]] can all be of similar benefit regardless of the degree acquired. But often it's said that some majors have little workplace potential because of being too abstract or general, creating a circular system where the best option is to turn around and teach the same subject to the next generation. See [[Analysis/ADegreeInUseless Analysis]] tab for more.

All that said,
advanced degrees often accumulate classes undergrad coursework that will help them get into a good graduate program but not help them in the job market at that point in time. There are a lot of different majors that are subject to such ridicule, being hopelessly specific or too generic to offer you any advancement. See [[Analysis/ADegreeInUseless Analysis]] tab for more.

Another thing is, even for
time, English and Literature degrees which seem more useful at the beginning of this century (technical degrees), you frequently '''need''' other subjects as well. You like Informatics, for example? That can be paired with Linguistics (translator engines, natural language processing), Psychology (user interface design, advertisements), Biology (medical devices), Arts (colour theory, computer graphics), Humanities (digital humanities), English (technical writing), Law (patent law), Philosophy (information ethics)... and a host of others, as long as you're willing lead to look for examples. The point is, you'll find almost every study subject is intertwined with others the more complex it gets.

And even if some university degree ''sounds'' useless, it doesn't mean that it actually is (after all, those who actually studied it may know better), or that it will continue to be in the future (the current huge demand for technical degrees may cause humanitarian degrees to be more sought after in the future). People who have bachelor's degrees and advanced degrees [[https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2018/data-on-display/education-pays.htm earn more]] over their lifetimes across the board compared to those who have a high school education or less, regardless of field of study.

Also bear in mind that American universities
Journalism. Universities aim to create well-rounded students, so they require at least two years of general education before they focus on their majors. Students majoring in the arts have exposure to the hard sciences and vice versa.
versa. And even still, some creative application of the knowledge gained can be a great benefit when [[CripplingOverspecialization everyone else is locked into the same point of view]].

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