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Just being a low-earning degree in some way is kind of broad so if you push the trope there are subtleties to its use. A humanities degree like History, Theology, English etc is supposed to be "above" marketability, so prestigious but useless ("novelty"). "Mickey Mouse degrees" like Communications or Media Studies don't even get any academic respect. Because of the HardOnSoftScience trope and some of the most employable degrees are Medicine and Engineering, natural sciences are usually safe but softer abstract degrees like Mathematics, Astrophysics or even areas of Psychology (especially [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian that]]) are still candidates. Similarly, a vocational degree will be tied to the respect given to the work, so Law, Business Studies or Accountancy are usually safe, but Journalism majors are always AcceptableTargets. Indeed there seems to be a strange meme that colleges teach [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving traditional willow-work crafts]]. (A few do, actually.)
Often actually averted in real life, at least for people who get humanities degrees from respected schools, because a lot of businesses prefer candidates who bring different perspectives and ways of thinking to their jobs than the cookie-cutter Business School mentality. Many people who invoke this trope might be surprised by how scientists, people who changed the world, and/or just their bosses actually majored in Philosophy (One word: Ph.D). Writers of fiction, however, tend to ignore the fact that such a thing is possible, depicting anyone who didn't choose a 'safe' major as a penniless loser, despite how many fiction writers actually had a degree in "useless". Self-Deprecation perhaps?
Often actually averted in real life, at least for people who get humanities degrees from respected schools, because a lot of businesses prefer candidates who bring different perspectives and ways of thinking to their jobs than the cookie-cutter Business School mentality. Many people who invoke this trope might be surprised by how scientists, people who changed the world, and/or just their bosses actually majored in Philosophy (One word: Ph.D). Writers of fiction, however, tend to ignore the fact that such a thing is possible, depicting anyone who didn't choose a 'safe' major as a penniless loser, despite how many fiction writers actually had a degree in "useless". Self-Deprecation perhaps?
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Just being a low-earning degree in some way is kind of broad so if you push the trope there are subtleties to its use. A humanities degree like History, Theology, English etc is supposed to be "above" marketability, so prestigious but useless ("novelty"). "Mickey Mouse degrees" like Communications or Media Studies don't even get any academic respect. Because of the HardOnSoftScience trope and some of the most employable degrees are Medicine and Engineering, natural sciences are usually safe but softer abstract degrees like Mathematics, Astrophysics or even areas of Psychology (especially [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian that]]) are still candidates.Mathematics also sometimes get this, because EverybodyHatesMathematics. Similarly, a vocational degree will be tied to the respect given to the work, so Law, Business Studies or Accountancy are usually safe, but Journalism majors are always AcceptableTargets. Indeed there seems to be a strange meme that colleges teach [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving traditional willow-work crafts]]. (A few do, actually.)
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Often actually averted in real life, at least for people who get humanities degrees from respected schools, because a lot of businesses prefer candidates who bring different perspectives and ways of thinking to their jobs than the cookie-cutter Business School mentality.
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See HardOnSoftScience for when scientists invoke this on other scientists. Related to ClassicallyTrainedExtra.
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Just being a low-earning degree in some way is kind of broad so if you push the trope there are subtleties to its use. A humanities degree like History, Theology, English etc is supposed to be "above" marketability, so prestigious but useless ("novelty"). "Mickey Mouse degrees" like Communications or Media Studies don't even get any academic respect. Because of the HardOnSoftScience trope and some of the most employable degrees are Medicine and Engineering, natural sciences are usually safe but softer abstract degrees like Mathematics, Astrophysics or even areas of Psychology (especially [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian that]]) are still candidates. Similarly, a vocational degree will be tied to the respect given to the work, so Law, Business Studies or Accountancy are usually safe, but Journalism majors are always AcceptableTargets. Indeed there seems to be a strange meme that colleges teach [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving traditional willow-work crafts]]. (A few do, actually.)
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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! Well, first your peers will laugh at you for partying instead of studying for a real degree, then you'll find it's completely worthless and work at BurgerFool for the rest of your life. Of course, if you're lucky you can become a mad scientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there.
In short, this is a college degree in a subject that is worth less than the paper it's printed on. A common use is to have the guy describe his acheivements: "Yeah, graduated top three of my class, BA in Arts, my professors predicting me an easy future and all that. Would you like fries with that?".
Just being a low-earning degree in some way is kind of broad so if you push the trope there are subtleties to its use. A humanities degree like History, Theology, English etc is supposed to be "above" marketability, so respected but useless. "Mickey Mouse degrees" like Communications or Media Studies don't even get any academic respect. Because some of the most employable degrees are Medicine and Engineering and the HardOnSoftScience trope, natural sciences are usually safe but abstract degrees like Mathematics or Astrophysics are still candidates.. Similarly, a vocational degree will be tied to the respect given to the work, so Law, Business Studies or Accountancy are usually safe, but Journalism majors are not. Indeed there seems to be a strange meme that colleges teach [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving traditional willow-work crafts]]. (A few do, actually.)
Often actually averted in real life, at least for people who get humanities degrees from respected schools, because a lot of businesses prefer candidates who bring different perspectives and ways of thinking to their jobs than the cookie-cutter Business School mentality. Many people who invoke this trope might be surprised by how many of their bosses actually majored in English or Philosophy. Writers of fiction, however, tend to ignore the fact that such a thing is possible, depicting anyone who didn't choose a 'safe' major as a penniless loser.
In short, this is a college degree in a subject that is worth less than the paper it's printed on. A common use is to have the guy describe his acheivements: "Yeah, graduated top three of my class, BA in Arts, my professors predicting me an easy future and all that. Would you like fries with that?".
Just being a low-earning degree in some way is kind of broad so if you push the trope there are subtleties to its use. A humanities degree like History, Theology, English etc is supposed to be "above" marketability, so respected but useless. "Mickey Mouse degrees" like Communications or Media Studies don't even get any academic respect. Because some of the most employable degrees are Medicine and Engineering and the HardOnSoftScience trope, natural sciences are usually safe but abstract degrees like Mathematics or Astrophysics are still candidates.. Similarly, a vocational degree will be tied to the respect given to the work, so Law, Business Studies or Accountancy are usually safe, but Journalism majors are not. Indeed there seems to be a strange meme that colleges teach [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving traditional willow-work crafts]]. (A few do, actually.)
Often actually averted in real life, at least for people who get humanities degrees from respected schools, because a lot of businesses prefer candidates who bring different perspectives and ways of thinking to their jobs than the cookie-cutter Business School mentality. Many people who invoke this trope might be surprised by how many of their bosses actually majored in English or Philosophy. Writers of fiction, however, tend to ignore the fact that such a thing is possible, depicting anyone who didn't choose a 'safe' major as a penniless loser.
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Wow, you took ''that'' degree? Ha! Well, first your peers will laugh at you for partying instead of studying for a real degree, then you'll find it's completely worthless and work at BurgerFool for the rest of your life. Or [[MercyKill commit suicide]] rather than [[FateWorseThanDeath that]]. Of course, if you're lucky you can become a mad scientist's experiment or something and at least make a ''name'' for yourself there.
In short, this is a college degree in a subject that is worth less than the cash you paid for it and the paper it's printed on. A common use is to have the guy describe hisacheivements: achievements: "Yeah, graduated top three of my class, BA in Arts, my professors predicting me an easy future and all that. Would you like fries with that?".
Just being a low-earning degree in some way is kind of broad so if you push the trope there are subtleties to its use. A humanities degree like History, Theology, English etc is supposed to be "above" marketability, sorespected prestigious but useless.useless ("novelty"). "Mickey Mouse degrees" like Communications or Media Studies don't even get any academic respect. Because of the HardOnSoftScience trope and some of the most employable degrees are Medicine and Engineering and the HardOnSoftScience trope, Engineering, natural sciences are usually safe but softer abstract degrees like Mathematics or Mathematics, Astrophysics or even areas of Psychology are still candidates.. candidates. Similarly, a vocational degree will be tied to the respect given to the work, so Law, Business Studies or Accountancy are usually safe, but Journalism majors are not.AcceptableTargets. Indeed there seems to be a strange meme that colleges teach [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving traditional willow-work crafts]]. (A few do, actually.)
Often actually averted in real life, at least for people who get humanities degrees from respected schools, because a lot of businesses prefer candidates who bring different perspectives and ways of thinking to their jobs than the cookie-cutter Business School mentality. Many people who invoke this trope might be surprised by howmany of scientists, people who changed the world, and/or just their bosses actually majored in English or Philosophy. Philosophy (One word: Ph.D). Writers of fiction, however, tend to ignore the fact that such a thing is possible, depicting anyone who didn't choose a 'safe' major as a penniless loser.
loser, despite how many fiction writers actually had a degree in "useless". Self-Deprecation perhaps?
In short, this is a college degree in a subject that is worth less than the cash you paid for it and the paper it's printed on. A common use is to have the guy describe his
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Often actually averted in real life, at least for people who get humanities degrees from respected schools, because a lot of businesses prefer candidates who bring different perspectives and ways of thinking to their jobs than the cookie-cutter Business School mentality. Many people who invoke this trope might be surprised by how
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* In ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' the Citadel mostly considers the study of magic to qualify, because one of the major lessons is this: magic doesn't work. It's implied that the Citadel is trying to suppress magic, so [[TheMagicComesBack even at the start]] of the series this is less true than they claim.
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The person who put this here seems to have misunderstood the quote. It wasn\'t a bash against those degrees, which are great degrees in real life, but against the government mismanagement of the economy. It should be read as \"even with these amazing credentials there are jobs\" not as \"these worthless credentials can\'t get me a job\".
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* From ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy~=]''
-->'''Trillian:''' "Well, with one degree in maths and another in astrophysics, it was either that or back to the dole queue on Monday."
** This one wasn't so much an indictment on the usability of the degrees, but of the way the British economy at the time had been mismanaged almost into oblivion.
-->'''Trillian:''' "Well, with one degree in maths and another in astrophysics, it was either that or back to the dole queue on Monday."
** This one wasn't so much an indictment on the usability of the degrees, but of the way the British economy at the time had been mismanaged almost into oblivion.
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Completely unnecessary bit of snark, and not true anyways. Probably meant as a joke, but it adds nothing to the article.
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Not true. In LIFE, salary is not dependent on career field. It is random, just like real life.
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* Similarily, [[PennyArcade Tycho]] apparently has a degree in [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/1/27/ pig waxing]] (Note: the RealLife Tycho didn't attend college).
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** ''{{MAD}}'' once featured a parody of {{Mel Brooks}}' ''SilentMovie'', one panel of which featured Marty Feldman doing just that. The caption read, "We found him doing odd jobs...and boy, do we mean ''odd''!
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* In ''Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story'', Bruce tells his girlfriend and future wife that he is majoring in philosophy. When asked what he plans to do with his degree, he replies "Think long, deep thoughts about unempolyment."
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* Buster Bluth from ''ArrestedDevelopment'' used his family's wealth to become a "professional graduate student". By the start of the series he has done coursework in cartography, Native American tribal ceremonies, 18th century agrarian business principles, and archaeology.
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* Buster Bluth from ''ArrestedDevelopment'' used his family's wealth to become a "professional "professional" graduate student".student. By the start of the series he has done coursework in cartography, Native American tribal ceremonies, 18th century agrarian business principles, and archaeology.
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Just being a low-earning degree in some way is kind of broad so if you push the trope there are subtleties to its use. A humanities degree like History, Theology, English etc is supposed to be "above" marketability, so respected but useless. "Mickey Mouse degrees" like Communications or Media Studies don't even get any academic respect. Because some of the most employable degrees are Medicine and Engineering and the HardOnSoftScience trope, natural sciences are usually safe but abstract degrees like Mathematics or Astrophysics are still candidates.. Similarly, a vocational degree will be tied to the respect given to the work, so Law, Business Studies or Accountancy are usually safe, but Journalism majors are not. Indeed there seems to be a strange meme that colleges teach [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving traditional willow-work crafts]].
crafts]]. (A few do, actually.)
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* In ''Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story'', Bruce tells his girlfriend and future wife that he is majoring in philosophy. When asked what he plans to do with his degree, he replies "Think long, deep thoughts about unempolyment."
* {{Empowered}} has a degree in suprahuman studies (she always was a superhero FanGirl).
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* Not so much a Useless Degree as an Absurdly Narrow One, Bob in ''TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob'' has a degree in newsstand management.
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* ''APrairieHomeCompanion'' has a whole weekly skit devoted to [[http://cms.cerritos.edu/english/english-majors mock advertisements]] for the [[http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2010/06/12/scripts/english.shtml Professional Organization of English Majors]], in which [[ExcusePlot things happen]] and [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman only an English major]] can stop them. [[AlwaysMale He always]] gets the girl in the end of the advertisement. So this trope is at least 25 years old...
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* ''APrairieHomeCompanion'' has a whole weekly skit devoted to [[http://cms.cerritos.edu/english/english-majors mock advertisements]] for the [[http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2010/06/12/scripts/english.shtml Professional Organization of English Majors]], in which [[ExcusePlot things happen]] happen and [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman only an English major]] can stop them. [[AlwaysMale He always]] gets the girl in the end of the advertisement. So this trope is at least 25 years old...
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* Dr. Orpheus from ''TheVentureBros'' has a degree in Communications with a minor in Women's Studies, both from a community college. As for his "[[NotThatKindOfDoctor doctorate]]", he claims it was given to him by "a higher power".
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* In '''Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story''', Bruce tells his girlfriend and future wife that he is majoring in philosophy. When asked what he plans to do with his degree, he replies "Think long, deep thoughts about unempolyment."
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-->'''Mike''' (as Jurassic Park guard): "I shouldn't have majored in Sociology."
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* KanyeWest references this trope in his song ''All Falls Down'':
-->I promise, she's so self-concious\\
She's got no idea what she's doing in college\\
The major she's majoring in don't make no money\\
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-->I promise, she's so self-concious\\
She's got no idea what she's doing in college\\
The major she's majoring in don't make no money\\
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[[caption-width-right:257:[[AvenueQ Four of years and plenty of knowledge have earned me this useless degree]].]]
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* ''APrairieHomeCompanion'' has a whole weekly skit devoted to [[http://cms.cerritos.edu/english/english-majors mock advertisements]] for the [[http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2010/06/12/scripts/english.shtml Professional Organization of English Majors]], in which [[ExcusePlot things happen]] and [[EigenPlot only an English major]] can stop them. [[AlwaysMale He always]] gets the girl in the end of the advertisement. So this trope is at least 25 years old...
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* ''APrairieHomeCompanion'' has a whole weekly skit devoted to [[http://cms.cerritos.edu/english/english-majors mock advertisements]] for the [[http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2010/06/12/scripts/english.shtml Professional Organization of English Majors]], in which [[ExcusePlot things happen]] and [[EigenPlot [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman only an English major]] can stop them. [[AlwaysMale He always]] gets the girl in the end of the advertisement. So this trope is at least 25 years old...
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* Buster Bluth from ''ArrestedDevelopment'' used his family's wealth to become a "professional graduate student". By the start of the series he has done coursework in cartography, Native American tribal ceremonies, 18th century agrarian business principles, and archaeology.
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* ''AvenueQ'''s "What do you do with a BA in English?" Reprised at the end when it turns out what you do with a BA in English is [[spoiler:help run a monster school]].
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* One act on ''ExtremeGong'' was a guy ''eating'' his film school degree.
