Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 24 (click to see context) from:
* ChosenConceptionPartner: Susan has been promised to the town mayor, ostensibly because his wife is barren by actually to ensure he's [[DistractedByTheSexy too worked up with anticipation]] to intervene in the conspiracy.
to:
* ChosenConceptionPartner: Susan has been promised to the town mayor, ostensibly because his wife is barren by but actually to ensure he's [[DistractedByTheSexy too worked up with anticipation]] to intervene in the conspiracy.
Changed line(s) 30 (click to see context) from:
* CynicismCatalyst: [[spoiler:Susan's death]] mainly foster's Rolan's growing isolation and determination to right the wrongs of an existing world as a gunslinger.
to:
* CynicismCatalyst: [[spoiler:Susan's death]] mainly foster's Rolan's Roland's growing isolation and determination to right the wrongs of an existing world as a gunslinger. gunslinger.
* CurbStompBattle: In the climatic battle, Roland, Cuthbert and Alain cut through the bad guys' force like a hot knife through butter.
* CurbStompBattle: In the climatic battle, Roland, Cuthbert and Alain cut through the bad guys' force like a hot knife through butter.
Changed line(s) 35 (click to see context) from:
* EvilCounterpart: Eldred, a failed gunslinger, to Roland.
to:
* EvilCounterpart: Eldred, a failed gunslinger, to Roland. Also Eldred's falling into a hardbitten sexual relationship with Coral Thorin contrasting with Roland and Susan's youthful true love.
Changed line(s) 39,40 (click to see context) from:
* GeodesicCast
* TheGunfighterWannabe
* TheGunfighterWannabe
to:
* GeodesicCast
GeodesicCast: Roland's two ka-tets.
*TheGunfighterWannabeGreaterScopeVillain: John Farson, whom we never meet in person in any of the novels. And even he ultimately was a pawn, witting or otherwise, of the Crimson King.
* TheGunfighterWannabe: Jonas failed to become a gunfighter and was sent west. Doesn't mean he's not dangerous, of course.
*
* TheGunfighterWannabe: Jonas failed to become a gunfighter and was sent west. Doesn't mean he's not dangerous, of course.
Changed line(s) 44 (click to see context) from:
* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Rolan is forced to admit that Eddie's stupid jokes and puns [[spoiler:saved everyone from Blaine]]. He humbly apologizes for underestimating Eddie.
to:
* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Rolan Roland is forced to admit that Eddie's stupid jokes and puns [[spoiler:saved everyone from Blaine]]. He humbly apologizes for underestimating Eddie.
Changed line(s) 48 (click to see context) from:
** Clay Reynolds survives the events of the story, but [[spoiler:the narration lets us know that he was killed shortly thereafter in an unrelated shootout]].
to:
** Clay Reynolds survives and Coral Thorin survive the events of the story, but [[spoiler:the narration lets us know that he was they were both killed shortly thereafter in an unrelated shootout]].
* NoodleIncident: Roland indicates that he eventually hunted down and killed Rhea, but we never get any details.
Changed line(s) 69 (click to see context) from:
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Roland unleashes one on Blaine. (Blaine gets so angry that he interupts Roland before he could finish it).
to:
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Roland unleashes one on Blaine. (Blaine gets so angry that he interupts interrupts Roland before he could finish it).
Changed line(s) 77 (click to see context) from:
* SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome: Tick-Tock Man gets saved by Richard Fannin (or [[Literature/TheStand Randall Flagg]]?) only to have him die almost immediately by the hands of the ''ka-tet''.
to:
* SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome: Tick-Tock Man gets saved by Richard Fannin (or [[Literature/TheStand Randall Flagg]]?) only to have him die almost immediately by the hands of the ''ka-tet''.''ka-tet'' as soon as he reappears.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
TRS cleanup
* CynicismCatalyst: [[spoiler:Susan's death]] mainly foster's Rolan's growing isolation and determination to right the wrongs of an existing world as a gunslinger.
Deleted line(s) 76 (click to see context) :
* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler:Susan's death]] mainly foster's Rolan's growing isolation and determination to right the wrongs of an existing world as a gunslinger.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Famous Last Words is being dewicked per TRS
Changed line(s) 58 (click to see context) from:
** Speculated to be the cause of [[spoiler: Susan's aunt's heart attack]]. She [[spoiler:dropped dead on the spot when hearing Susan's FamousLastWords]].
to:
** Speculated to be the cause of [[spoiler: Susan's aunt's heart attack]]. She [[spoiler:dropped dead on the spot when hearing Susan's FamousLastWords]].last words]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1,2 (click to see context) from:
[[quoteright:250:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4wizardandglass.jpg]]
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Crosswicked a trope.
Added DiffLines:
* RealMenHaveShortHair: Eldred Jonas, leader of the Big Coffin Hunters, sports a head of long white hair. Some characters disparage it, saying he has a girl's hair, but notably no one will do it with Jonas in earshot.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AllWitchesHaveCats: Rhea has a mutant cat named Musty, who has six legs and a forked tail. She uses it to carry messages.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BestialityIsDepraved: Rhea uses her pet snake as a vibrator.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:
* BlackComedy: A joke about a literal dead baby is vital to the plot.* TheChessmaster: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to make their move. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
to:
* BlackComedy: A joke about a literal dead baby is vital to the plot.plot.
* TheChessmaster: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to make their move. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
* TheChessmaster: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to make their move. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19,20 (click to see context) from:
* BlackComedy: A joke about a literal dead baby is vital to the plot.
* TheChessmaster: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to make their move. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
* TheChessmaster: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to make their move. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
to:
* BlackComedy: A joke about a literal dead baby is vital to the plot.
plot.* TheChessmaster: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to make their move. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.VariantChess.
* CharacterDevelopment: After relating what happened to Susan, Roland makes a joke for the first time. Eddie and Susannah are very stunned by this.
* CharacterDevelopment: After relating what happened to Susan, Roland makes a joke for the first time. Eddie and Susannah are very stunned by this.
* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Rolan is forced to admit that Eddie's stupid jokes and puns [[spoiler:saved everyone from Blaine]]. He humbly apologizes for underestimating Eddie.
Changed line(s) 42 (click to see context) from:
* KarmaHoudini: Clay Reynolds survives the events of the story, but [[spoiler:the narration lets us know that he was killed shortly thereafter in an unrelated shootout]].
to:
* KarmaHoudini: KarmaHoudiniWarranty:
** Clay Reynolds survives the events of the story, but [[spoiler:the narration lets us know that he was killed shortly thereafter in an unrelatedshootout]].shootout]].
** Rhea the witch causes most of Roland and Susan's misery, culminating in her and Susan's Aunt Cornelia [[spoiler:burning Susan at the stake. Roland just says she died, and implied that he hunted her down personally to kill her to avenge Susan and for tricking him into killing his mother]].
** Clay Reynolds survives the events of the story, but [[spoiler:the narration lets us know that he was killed shortly thereafter in an unrelated
** Rhea the witch causes most of Roland and Susan's misery, culminating in her and Susan's Aunt Cornelia [[spoiler:burning Susan at the stake. Roland just says she died, and implied that he hunted her down personally to kill her to avenge Susan and for tricking him into killing his mother]].
* LaserGuidedKarma: It's implied [[spoiler:the whole town fell to ruin after Susan's death and for being complicit in such a conspiracy. Roland never returned as far as he tells us, but they certainly weren't happy]].
Changed line(s) 51 (click to see context) from:
** Speculated to be the cause of [[spoiler: Susan's aunt's heart attack]].
to:
** Speculated to be the cause of [[spoiler: Susan's aunt's heart attack]]. She [[spoiler:dropped dead on the spot when hearing Susan's FamousLastWords]].
Changed line(s) 67 (click to see context) from:
* StoutStrength: The bouncer at the Mejis bar has an enourmous belly.
to:
* StoutStrength: The bouncer at the Mejis bar has an enourmous belly.enormous belly.
* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler:Susan's death]] mainly foster's Rolan's growing isolation and determination to right the wrongs of an existing world as a gunslinger.
* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler:Susan's death]] mainly foster's Rolan's growing isolation and determination to right the wrongs of an existing world as a gunslinger.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* WorthIt: When [[spoiler:Susan is taken to be executed, she recalls what Roland told her when they first met: "Thankee-sai, we’re well met." She feels that despite what is about to happen, they had been very well met, indeed.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* TheChessmaster: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to make their move. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
Deleted line(s) 78 (click to see context) :
* XanatosSpeedChess: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to strike. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* XanatosSpeedChess: Eldred Jonas quickly figures out Roland and his ''ka-tet'' are more than they appear to be, and it comes down to both sides pretending to be unaware of the other's intentions while waiting for the right moment to strike. Jonas even discusses the trope while playing VariantChess.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* ChosenConceptionPartner: Susan has been promised to the town mayor, ostensibly because his wife is barren by actually to ensure he's [[DistractedByTheSexy too worked up with anticipation]] to intervene in the conspiracy.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* GargleBlaster: The "Camel Piss" jug in the bar, which Sheemie fills with the remnants of the customers' unfinished drinks. The bartender sells double shots of the mixture for next to nothing; even though it smells and tastes awful, enough broke/desperate customers show up to empty the jug almost every night.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 5,6 (click to see context) from:
''Wizard and Glass'' is Book IV of Creator/StephenKing's [[DoorStopper Epic]] {{Fantasy}} series ''Franchise/TheDarkTower.'' It was published in 1997. The series' main plot takes a backseat as readers are treated to an extended FlashBack of a [[TheWestern tale]] of [[BoyMeetsGirl love]] and heroism from Roland's [[BackStory past]].
to:
''Wizard and Glass'' is Book IV of Creator/StephenKing's [[DoorStopper Epic]] {{Fantasy}} series ''Franchise/TheDarkTower.''Literature/TheDarkTower.'' It was published in 1997. The series' main plot takes a backseat as readers are treated to an extended FlashBack of a [[TheWestern tale]] of [[BoyMeetsGirl love]] and heroism from Roland's [[BackStory past]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 28 (click to see context) :
* DoomedByCanon: Anyone who remembers Roland's confrontation with Sheb in ''Literature/TheGunslinger'' already knows what's going to happen to Susan.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* DoomedByCanon: Anyone who remembers Roland's confrontation with Sheb in ''Literature/TheGunslinger'' already knows what's going to happen to Susan.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1,2 (click to see context) from:
[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wgcover_8108.jpg]]
to:
Changed line(s) 5,6 (click to see context) from:
''Wizard and Glass'' is Book IV of Creator/StephenKing's [[DoorStopper Epic]] {{Fantasy}} series ''Franchise/TheDarkTower.'' It was published in 1997. The series' plot takes the backseat as readers are treated to an extended FlashBack of a [[TheWestern tale]] of [[BoyMeetsGirl love]] from Roland's [[BackStory past]].
to:
''Wizard and Glass'' is Book IV of Creator/StephenKing's [[DoorStopper Epic]] {{Fantasy}} series ''Franchise/TheDarkTower.'' It was published in 1997. The series' main plot takes the a backseat as readers are treated to an extended FlashBack of a [[TheWestern tale]] of [[BoyMeetsGirl love]] and heroism from Roland's [[BackStory past]].
past]].
To see the character sheet for the whole book series, go [[Characters/TheDarkTower here]].
To see the character sheet for the whole book series, go [[Characters/TheDarkTower here]].
Deleted line(s) 8 (click to see context) :
Deleted line(s) 11 (click to see context) :
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 47 (click to see context) from:
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Speculated to be the cause of [[spoiler: Susan's aunt's heart attack]].
to:
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: MyGodWhatHaveIDone:
** Speculated to be the cause of [[spoiler: Susan's aunt's heartattack]].attack]].
** The rest of the town has a moment of clarity during the mob frenzy that could count as this, as well. [[spoiler:Susan is being burned at the stake, and when she screams her last words, "ROLAND, I LOVE THEE!" the mob remember that she's just a teenage girl who doesn't deserve this, but by then it's too late to save her.]]
** Speculated to be the cause of [[spoiler: Susan's aunt's heart
** The rest of the town has a moment of clarity during the mob frenzy that could count as this, as well. [[spoiler:Susan is being burned at the stake, and when she screams her last words, "ROLAND, I LOVE THEE!" the mob remember that she's just a teenage girl who doesn't deserve this, but by then it's too late to save her.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 44 (click to see context) from:
* TheManBehindTheCurtain: a theme of the entire series, but this book explicitly discusses the concept.
to:
* TheManBehindTheCurtain: a A theme of the entire series, but this book explicitly discusses the concept.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* WholeEpisodeFlashback: The majority of the novel is the story of how Roland met Susan Delgado and her fate.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 58 (click to see context) :
* ShoutOut: The climax directly recreates [[spoiler:the climax of ''The Wizard of Oz'']].
Added DiffLines:
* ShoutOut: The climax directly recreates [[spoiler:the climax of ''The Wizard of Oz'']].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
How To Create A Works Page explicitly says "No bolding is used for work titles."
Changed line(s) 5,6 (click to see context) from:
'''''Wizard and Glass''''' is Book IV of Creator/StephenKing's [[DoorStopper Epic]] {{Fantasy}} series ''Franchise/TheDarkTower.'' It was published in 1997. The series' plot takes the backseat as readers are treated to an extended FlashBack of a [[TheWestern tale]] of [[BoyMeetsGirl love]] from Roland's [[BackStory past]].
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 42 (click to see context) from:
-->[[spoiler:"Why did the dead baby cross the road? Cause it was stapled to the chicken."]]
to:
-->[[spoiler:"Why did the dead baby cross the road? Cause ''Cause it was stapled to the chicken."]]chicken, you dopey fuck!."'']]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* RealityBleed: This is the first book where it really starts to happen. There is the city of Topeka, Kansas from the alternate universe of ''Literature/TheStand'' merging with Midworld. Also notable is the introduction of Randall Flagg from The Stand as being the same Man in Black from ''Literature/TheGunslinger''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* TrueLoveIsBoring: Lampshaded by Roland, who says the name of the trope, explaining that "once the tale of encounter and discovery is told, kisses quickly grow stale and caresses tiresome" -- except of course for the ones who exchange in them. Therefore, he glosses over the happy part of the love story between him and Susan, only detailing the complex courtship and the tragic end.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 25 (click to see context) from:
* ADateWithRosiePalms: Masturbation Equals Love.
to:
* ADateWithRosiePalms: Masturbation Equals Love.Susan after meeting Roland for the first time.
* DragonInChief: Eldred is theoretically subservient to Kimba Rimer, but he really just does what he pleases and [[spoiler: eventually has him killed.]]
* EvilCounterpart: Eldred, a failed gunslinger, to Roland.
* EvilCounterpart: Eldred, a failed gunslinger, to Roland.
Changed line(s) 34 (click to see context) from:
* HeartbrokenBadass
to:
* HeartbrokenBadassHeartbrokenBadass: Roland by the end.
Changed line(s) 41 (click to see context) from:
* TheManBehindTheMan: Kimba Rimer for Mayor Thorin.
to:
* TheManBehindTheMan: Kimba Rimer for Mayor Thorin.Thorin, and John Farson for Eldred.
Changed line(s) 56,57 (click to see context) from:
* SexAsRiteOfPassage
* TheSheriff: Herk Avery.
* TheSheriff: Herk Avery.
to:
* SexAsRiteOfPassage
SexAsRiteOfPassage: Roland loses his virginity to a prostitute shortly after completing his gunslinger training early.
* TheSheriff: HerkAvery.Avery, who is a CorruptHick and DirtyCop working for the bad guys.
* TheSheriff: Herk
Changed line(s) 64 (click to see context) from:
* TownWithADarkSecret
to:
* TownWithADarkSecretTownWithADarkSecret: Mejis.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 60 (click to see context) from:
* SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome: Tick-Tock Man gets saved by Richard Fannin (or [[TheStand Randall Flagg]]?) only to have him die almost immediately by the hands of the ''ka-tet''.
to:
* SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome: Tick-Tock Man gets saved by Richard Fannin (or [[TheStand [[Literature/TheStand Randall Flagg]]?) only to have him die almost immediately by the hands of the ''ka-tet''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5,6 (click to see context) from:
'''''Wizard and Glass''''' is Book IV of Creator/StephenKing's [[DoorStopper Epic]] {{Fantasy}} series ''Franchise/TheDarkTower.'' The series' plot takes the backseat as readers are treated to an extended FlashBack of a [[TheWestern tale]] of [[BoyMeetsGirl love]] from Roland's [[BackStory past]].
to:
'''''Wizard and Glass''''' is Book IV of Creator/StephenKing's [[DoorStopper Epic]] {{Fantasy}} series ''Franchise/TheDarkTower.'' It was published in 1997. The series' plot takes the backseat as readers are treated to an extended FlashBack of a [[TheWestern tale]] of [[BoyMeetsGirl love]] from Roland's [[BackStory past]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Roland unleashes one on Blaine. (Blaine gets so angry that he interupts Roland before he could finish it).
-->I could call you a sucker of cocks, for instance, but you have no mouth. I could say you're viler than the vilest beggar who ever crawled the lowest street in creation, but even such a creature is better than you; you have no knees on which to crawl, and would not fall upon them even if you did, for you have no conception of such a human flaw as mercy. I could even say you fucked your mother, had you one. I ''can'' call you a faithless creature who let your only companion kill herself, a coward who has delighted in the torture of the foolish and the slaughter of the innocent, a lost and bleating mechanical goblin who-
-->I could call you a sucker of cocks, for instance, but you have no mouth. I could say you're viler than the vilest beggar who ever crawled the lowest street in creation, but even such a creature is better than you; you have no knees on which to crawl, and would not fall upon them even if you did, for you have no conception of such a human flaw as mercy. I could even say you fucked your mother, had you one. I ''can'' call you a faithless creature who let your only companion kill herself, a coward who has delighted in the torture of the foolish and the slaughter of the innocent, a lost and bleating mechanical goblin who-
Changed line(s) 68,69 (click to see context) from:
** Roland to Blaine: "I cannot even say you fucked your mother, for you had none."
to:
** Roland to Blaine: "I cannot could even say you fucked your mother, for had you had none.one."