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* TactfulTranslation: A One-Wing flyer is hanged for altering messages. The landsman who hanged her was mentally 55unwell, and later removed from his position, but no-one, not even the insular Flyers, approves of her actions.
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* TactfulTranslation: A One-Wing flyer is hanged for altering messages. The landsman who hanged her was mentally 55unwell, unwell and later removed from his position, but no-one, not even the insular Flyers, approves of her actions.
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* MohsScaleOfSciFiHardness: Almost as light as can be. The inhabitants got to Windhaven via crashed starship, and the wings were made from said starship. That's it.
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* HappyEndingOverride: The first story ends on an optimistic note, with flying academies being opened for anyone to join. The second story takes place seven years later. The academies have only the wings of the teachers, and the few bequeathed the school. Students necessarily have to take turns with them, while flyer-born children go up every day. Every school but one has shut down.
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* RealityEnsues: The first story ends on an optimistic note, with flying academies being opened for anyone to join. The second story takes place seven years later. The academies have only the wings of the teachers, and the few bequeathed the school. Students necessarily have to take turns with them, while flyer-born children go up every day. Every school but one has shut down.
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* ComicBookAdaptation: There was a graphic novel drawn by Elsa Charretier.
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* CoolOldLady: Sena [[spoiler: and, eventually, Maris]].
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* TactfulTranslation: A One-Wing flyer is hanged for altering messages. The landsman who hanged her was mentally unwell, 55unwell, and later removed from his position, but no-one, not even the insular Flyers, approves of her actions.
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* WhiteAndGreyMorality: Windhaven is not Westeros.
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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Young!Maris had something of a crush on a moody daredevil flyer nicknamed Raven.
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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Young!Maris Young Maris had something of a crush on a moody daredevil flyer nicknamed Raven.
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* WanderingMinstrel: Coll and Barrion. Though they get none of the glory that Flyer's do, singers brave quite a bit of danger to get from island to island and, in a world without writing, have a certain power all their own.
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* WanderingMinstrel: Coll and Barrion. Though they get none of the glory that Flyer's do, singers brave quite a bit of danger to get from island to island and, in a world without writing, have a certain power all their own.own.
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* ShootTheMessenger: One particularly mad landsman, known as the Mad Landsman, murdered a flyer for delivering bad news. The flyers boycotted the island until it shriveled up.
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* ShootTheMessenger: One particularly mad landsman, known as the Mad Landsman, murdered a flyer for delivering bad news. The flyers boycotted the island until it shriveled up. Don't fuck with the Union.
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Because the constant storms make boat travel dangerous, the various islands communicate with each other via The Flyers: individuals who ride the air currents using gliding rigs, salvaged from the starship that crashlanded long ago. The passing of the centuries caused The Flyers to become an aristocratic messenger class, governed by strict tradition. The novel, a collection of three novella cowritten by Creator/GeorgeRRMartin and Lisa Tuttle, follow the adventures of Maris of Lesser Amberly, a flyer who, as a young girl, bravely fought to change an unjust system only to realize, as an older woman, that the consequences of doing so reached further and wider than she ever imagined.
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Because the constant storms make boat travel dangerous, the various islands communicate with each other via The the Flyers: individuals who ride the air currents using gliding rigs, salvaged from the starship that crashlanded long ago. The passing of the centuries caused The the Flyers to become an aristocratic messenger class, governed by strict tradition. The novel, a collection of three novella novellas cowritten by Creator/GeorgeRRMartin and Lisa Tuttle, follow the adventures of Maris of Lesser Amberly, a flyer Flyer who, as a young girl, bravely fought to change an unjust system only to realize, as an older woman, that the consequences of doing so reached further and wider than she ever imagined.
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* EpiphanyTherapy: Maris thinks she has Val's FreudianExcuse after her meeting with Arak, and promptly hunts him down for a go at this trope. In a nice Subverion of this trope, he shoots her down.
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* EpiphanyTherapy: Maris thinks she has Val's FreudianExcuse after her meeting with Arak, and promptly hunts him down for a go at this trope. In a nice Subverion subverion of this trope, he shoots her down.
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Because the constant storms make boat travel dangerous, the various islands communicate with each other via The Flyers: individuals who ride the air currents using gliding rigs, salvaged from the starship that crashlanded long ago. The passing of the centuries caused The Flyers to become an aristocratic messenger class, governed by strict tradition. The novel, a collection of three novella cowritten by GeorgeRRMartin and Lisa Tuttle, follow the adventures of Maris of Lesser Amberly, a flyer who, as a young girl, bravely fought to change an unjust system only to realize, as an older woman, that the consequences of doing so reached further and wider than she ever imagined.
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Because the constant storms make boat travel dangerous, the various islands communicate with each other via The Flyers: individuals who ride the air currents using gliding rigs, salvaged from the starship that crashlanded long ago. The passing of the centuries caused The Flyers to become an aristocratic messenger class, governed by strict tradition. The novel, a collection of three novella cowritten by GeorgeRRMartin Creator/GeorgeRRMartin and Lisa Tuttle, follow the adventures of Maris of Lesser Amberly, a flyer who, as a young girl, bravely fought to change an unjust system only to realize, as an older woman, that the consequences of doing so reached further and wider than she ever imagined.
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* LegendFadesToMyth: One of the themes of the story is that the singers, though not rich or able to command troops or fly, have the power to decide what becomes historical truth, as Windhaven has no system of writing. Highlighted in the epilogue where [[spoiler: Maris relates Coll's last song to a young singer to spread. It's strongly implied that, thanks to him, Windhaven will forever remember her as romantically flying one last time into the sunset and vanishing, instead of the accurate portrayal of her dying as a sickly old cripple in a bed.]]
** This has limits, however. In the short run, Coll's singing has the effect of getting him and a dozen other singers arrested and almost hanged. Val listens to Coll's boasting and bemusedly calls it the most arrogant thing he's ever heard.
** This has limits, however. In the short run, Coll's singing has the effect of getting him and a dozen other singers arrested and almost hanged. Val listens to Coll's boasting and bemusedly calls it the most arrogant thing he's ever heard.
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* PrintTheLegend: One of the themes of the story is that the singers, though not rich or able to command troops or fly, have the power to decide what becomes historical truth, as Windhaven has no system of writing. Highlighted in the epilogue where [[spoiler: Maris relates Coll's last song to a young singer to spread. It's strongly implied that, thanks to him, Windhaven will forever remember her as romantically flying one last time into the sunset and vanishing, instead of the accurate portrayal of her dying as a sickly old cripple in a bed.]]
** This has limits, however. In the short run, Coll's singing has the effect of getting him and a dozen other singers arrested and almost hanged. Val listens to Coll's boasting and bemusedly calls it the most arrogant thing he's ever heard.
** This has limits, however. In the short run, Coll's singing has the effect of getting him and a dozen other singers arrested and almost hanged. Val listens to Coll's boasting and bemusedly calls it the most arrogant thing he's ever heard.
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* CreatorThumbprint: ''Val'' of South ''Arren''. The ''Eyrie''. ''"A flyer who cannot fly is no flyer at all."
'' Maris even reminisces about having met Proto-Tyrion Lannister.
'' Maris even reminisces about having met Proto-Tyrion Lannister.
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* CreatorThumbprint: ''Val'' of South ''Arren''. The ''Eyrie''. ''"A flyer who cannot fly is no flyer at all."
''"'' Maris even reminisces about having met Proto-Tyrion Lannister.
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* Didn'tSeeThatComing: Everyone was stunned when Val challenged Ari, and equally stunned when he challenges [[spoiler: Corm]].
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* Didn'tSeeThatComing: DidntSeeThatComing: Everyone was stunned when Val challenged Ari, and equally stunned when he challenges [[spoiler: Corm]].
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* FlorenceNightengaleEffect: Maris, crippled and depressed, falls in love with her healer. Evan has had relationships with his patients several times, but this isn't seen as immoral within the story, and Evan never acts abusively.
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* FlorenceNightengaleEffect: FlorenceNightingaleEffect: Maris, crippled and depressed, falls in love with her healer. Evan has had relationships with his patients several times, but this isn't seen as immoral within the story, and Evan never acts abusively.
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* SlidingScaleOfSciFiHardness: Almost as light as can be. The inhabitants got to Windhaven via crashed starship, and the wings were made from said starship. That's it.
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* SlidingScaleOfSciFiHardness: MohsScaleOfSciFiHardness: Almost as light as can be. The inhabitants got to Windhaven via crashed starship, and the wings were made from said starship. That's it.
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-->'' "Barrion thought the world of you, Maris, but he also thought you were naive.'' You can't change one note in the middle of a song,'' he told me. Once you make the first change, others have to follow, until you've redone the whole thing. Everything relates, you see?"''
Windhaven is a world of seas and storms and islands.
Because the constant storms make boat travel dangerous, the various islands communicate with each other via The Flyers: individuals who ride the air currents using gliding rigs, salvaged from the starship that crashlanded long ago. The passing of the centuries caused The Flyers to become an aristocratic messenger class, governed by strict tradition. The novel, a collection of three novella cowritten by GeorgeRRMartin and Lisa Tuttle, follow the adventures of Maris of Lesser Amberly, a flyer who, as a young girl, bravely fought to change an unjust system only to realize, as an older woman, that the consequences of doing so reached further and wider than she ever imagined.
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!!Tropes Present:
* AbusiveParents: Arak was an abusive father-surrogate to Val. It doesn't seem like Val's ''actual'' father would have been much warmer, had he not been hanged.
* AerithAndBob: Maris, S'Rella, Coll, Corm... and ''Evan?''
* AintNoRule: Ain't No Rule saying you can't challenge a depressed flyer, and there Ain't No Rule saying a dozen flyers can't challenge you in revenge (though they changed that second one).
* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Young!Maris had something of a crush on a moody daredevil flyer nicknamed Raven.
* AppropriatedAppellation: The Nouveau-Flyers are called "One-Wings" by themselves and everyone else. Even before that, one of the early academies was named Wood-Wings, after a mocking folk-tale/song about a wannabe who died testing a wooden glider.
* CoolOldLady: Sena [[spoiler: and, eventually, Maris]].
* CreatorThumbprint: ''Val'' of South ''Arren''. The ''Eyrie''. ''"A flyer who cannot fly is no flyer at all."
'' Maris even reminisces about having met Proto-Tyrion Lannister.
* DecemberDecemberRomance: Maris and Evan.
* DespairEventHorizon: Maris treads rather close to one in ''The Fall''.
* Didn'tSeeThatComing: Everyone was stunned when Val challenged Ari, and equally stunned when he challenges [[spoiler: Corm]].
* DontYouDarePityMe: Val takes perceived pity pretty poorly.
* EpiphanyTherapy: Maris thinks she has Val's FreudianExcuse after her meeting with Arak, and promptly hunts him down for a go at this trope. In a nice Subverion of this trope, he shoots her down.
--> "What did you expect me to say, flyer? Did you think I'd embrace you, bed you, sing a song in praise of your understanding? What?"
** He goes on, more calmly, to explain that he's perfectly aware that Arak is coarser and more loutish than most flyers, yet Arak only expresses beliefs commonly held.
* [[FatherIDontWantToFight Father, I Don't Want To Fly]]: And, I suck at it! Father doesn't care. Interestingly, though he comes around to Maris having the wings, it's never shown whether or not he and Coll reconciled.
* FlorenceNightengaleEffect: Maris, crippled and depressed, falls in love with her healer. Evan has had relationships with his patients several times, but this isn't seen as immoral within the story, and Evan never acts abusively.
* {{Foil}}: Nice Traditionalist Dorrel to Jerk Traditionalist Corm, and Nice Reformers S'Rella and Maris to Jerk Reformer Val.
* IShallTauntYou: Corm tells Maris that Russ would be ashamed of her, just before the final competition. His position is so desperate that Maris isn't taken in by it.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Maris eventually takes this view of herself at the first council, and of herself refusing to preside over the second council.
* JerkAss: Val and Corm.
* KlingonPromotion: The [[spoiler: new landsman of Thayos]] worries that this is how she'll be seen by posterity.
* {{Misblamed}}: How Sena sees Val. He never tried to befriend flyers, true, but the flyers never gave him a chance, and that second competition was a sham. And as far as the first competition goes, he was only fifteen and it's not like he ''made'' Ari kill herself.
* ObviousRulePatch: They changed the rule about multiple challenges after Val lost his wings.
* NiceGirl: Several, but especially S'Rella. Girl has two defining characteristics: Total Sweetheart, and Cries At The Drop Of A Hat.
* PrintTheLegend: One of the themes of the story is that the singers, though not rich or able to command troops or fly, have the power to decide what becomes historical truth, as Windhaven has no system of writing. Highlighted in the epilogue where [[spoiler: Maris relates Coll's last song to a young singer to spread. It's strongly implied that, thanks to him, Windhaven will forever remember her as romantically flying one last time into the sunset and vanishing, instead of the accurate portrayal of her dying as a sickly old cripple in a bed.]]
** This has limits, however. In the short run, Coll's singing has the effect of getting him and a dozen other singers arrested and almost hanged. Val listens to Coll's boasting and bemusedly calls it the most arrogant thing he's ever heard.
* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Flyer Caste Guy]]: Corm.
* RealityEnsues: The first story ends on an optimistic note, with flying academies being opened for anyone to join. The second story takes place seven years later. The academies have only the wings of the teachers, and the few bequeathed the school. Students necessarily have to take turns with them, while flyer-born children go up every day. Every school but one has shut down.
* ShootTheMessenger: One particularly mad landsman, known as the Mad Landsman, murdered a flyer for delivering bad news. The flyers boycotted the island until it shriveled up.
* SlidingScaleOfSciFiHardness: Almost as light as can be. The inhabitants got to Windhaven via crashed starship, and the wings were made from said starship. That's it.
* StartMyOwn: Val and his followers storm out of the second council and declare their own sanction. Eventually, he admits that this perhaps wasn't the best move.
* TactfulTranslation: A One-Wing flyer is hanged for altering messages. The landsman who hanged her was mentally unwell, and later removed from his position, but no-one, not even the insular Flyers, approves of her actions.
* TournamentArc: The second story revolves around one.
* WhiteAndGreyMorality: Windhaven is not Westeros.
* WanderingMinstrel: Coll and Barrion. Though they get none of the glory that Flyer's do, singers brave quite a bit of danger to get from island to island and, in a world without writing, have a certain power all their own.
Windhaven is a world of seas and storms and islands.
Because the constant storms make boat travel dangerous, the various islands communicate with each other via The Flyers: individuals who ride the air currents using gliding rigs, salvaged from the starship that crashlanded long ago. The passing of the centuries caused The Flyers to become an aristocratic messenger class, governed by strict tradition. The novel, a collection of three novella cowritten by GeorgeRRMartin and Lisa Tuttle, follow the adventures of Maris of Lesser Amberly, a flyer who, as a young girl, bravely fought to change an unjust system only to realize, as an older woman, that the consequences of doing so reached further and wider than she ever imagined.
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!!Tropes Present:
* AbusiveParents: Arak was an abusive father-surrogate to Val. It doesn't seem like Val's ''actual'' father would have been much warmer, had he not been hanged.
* AerithAndBob: Maris, S'Rella, Coll, Corm... and ''Evan?''
* AintNoRule: Ain't No Rule saying you can't challenge a depressed flyer, and there Ain't No Rule saying a dozen flyers can't challenge you in revenge (though they changed that second one).
* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Young!Maris had something of a crush on a moody daredevil flyer nicknamed Raven.
* AppropriatedAppellation: The Nouveau-Flyers are called "One-Wings" by themselves and everyone else. Even before that, one of the early academies was named Wood-Wings, after a mocking folk-tale/song about a wannabe who died testing a wooden glider.
* CoolOldLady: Sena [[spoiler: and, eventually, Maris]].
* CreatorThumbprint: ''Val'' of South ''Arren''. The ''Eyrie''. ''"A flyer who cannot fly is no flyer at all."
'' Maris even reminisces about having met Proto-Tyrion Lannister.
* DecemberDecemberRomance: Maris and Evan.
* DespairEventHorizon: Maris treads rather close to one in ''The Fall''.
* Didn'tSeeThatComing: Everyone was stunned when Val challenged Ari, and equally stunned when he challenges [[spoiler: Corm]].
* DontYouDarePityMe: Val takes perceived pity pretty poorly.
* EpiphanyTherapy: Maris thinks she has Val's FreudianExcuse after her meeting with Arak, and promptly hunts him down for a go at this trope. In a nice Subverion of this trope, he shoots her down.
--> "What did you expect me to say, flyer? Did you think I'd embrace you, bed you, sing a song in praise of your understanding? What?"
** He goes on, more calmly, to explain that he's perfectly aware that Arak is coarser and more loutish than most flyers, yet Arak only expresses beliefs commonly held.
* [[FatherIDontWantToFight Father, I Don't Want To Fly]]: And, I suck at it! Father doesn't care. Interestingly, though he comes around to Maris having the wings, it's never shown whether or not he and Coll reconciled.
* FlorenceNightengaleEffect: Maris, crippled and depressed, falls in love with her healer. Evan has had relationships with his patients several times, but this isn't seen as immoral within the story, and Evan never acts abusively.
* {{Foil}}: Nice Traditionalist Dorrel to Jerk Traditionalist Corm, and Nice Reformers S'Rella and Maris to Jerk Reformer Val.
* IShallTauntYou: Corm tells Maris that Russ would be ashamed of her, just before the final competition. His position is so desperate that Maris isn't taken in by it.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Maris eventually takes this view of herself at the first council, and of herself refusing to preside over the second council.
* JerkAss: Val and Corm.
* KlingonPromotion: The [[spoiler: new landsman of Thayos]] worries that this is how she'll be seen by posterity.
* {{Misblamed}}: How Sena sees Val. He never tried to befriend flyers, true, but the flyers never gave him a chance, and that second competition was a sham. And as far as the first competition goes, he was only fifteen and it's not like he ''made'' Ari kill herself.
* ObviousRulePatch: They changed the rule about multiple challenges after Val lost his wings.
* NiceGirl: Several, but especially S'Rella. Girl has two defining characteristics: Total Sweetheart, and Cries At The Drop Of A Hat.
* PrintTheLegend: One of the themes of the story is that the singers, though not rich or able to command troops or fly, have the power to decide what becomes historical truth, as Windhaven has no system of writing. Highlighted in the epilogue where [[spoiler: Maris relates Coll's last song to a young singer to spread. It's strongly implied that, thanks to him, Windhaven will forever remember her as romantically flying one last time into the sunset and vanishing, instead of the accurate portrayal of her dying as a sickly old cripple in a bed.]]
** This has limits, however. In the short run, Coll's singing has the effect of getting him and a dozen other singers arrested and almost hanged. Val listens to Coll's boasting and bemusedly calls it the most arrogant thing he's ever heard.
* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Flyer Caste Guy]]: Corm.
* RealityEnsues: The first story ends on an optimistic note, with flying academies being opened for anyone to join. The second story takes place seven years later. The academies have only the wings of the teachers, and the few bequeathed the school. Students necessarily have to take turns with them, while flyer-born children go up every day. Every school but one has shut down.
* ShootTheMessenger: One particularly mad landsman, known as the Mad Landsman, murdered a flyer for delivering bad news. The flyers boycotted the island until it shriveled up.
* SlidingScaleOfSciFiHardness: Almost as light as can be. The inhabitants got to Windhaven via crashed starship, and the wings were made from said starship. That's it.
* StartMyOwn: Val and his followers storm out of the second council and declare their own sanction. Eventually, he admits that this perhaps wasn't the best move.
* TactfulTranslation: A One-Wing flyer is hanged for altering messages. The landsman who hanged her was mentally unwell, and later removed from his position, but no-one, not even the insular Flyers, approves of her actions.
* TournamentArc: The second story revolves around one.
* WhiteAndGreyMorality: Windhaven is not Westeros.
* WanderingMinstrel: Coll and Barrion. Though they get none of the glory that Flyer's do, singers brave quite a bit of danger to get from island to island and, in a world without writing, have a certain power all their own.