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* SquishyWizard: There's some degree of mage-fighter specialization. Most fighters with the magical Gift only have a limited amount of it. Many mages may be in shape and know how to break a hold etc but few characters are really good at both.
** ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness'' has Duke Roger, primarily a sorceror but still a knight and a skilled swordsman as well. In the first book, Roger returns from Carthak and starts teaching Gifted pages magic, including Jon, who also breaks more towards mage eventually, and Alanna herself. Alanna spends the quartet overcoming her fear of magic and becoming a true MagicKnight. Thom, on the other hand, is squishy and uncomfortable with exertion to the point of just never adventuring.
** In ''[[Literature/TortallUniverse Protector of the Small]]'' Neal left magic school to become a page. He gets ''some'' continued education in the Gift, but nothing like enough to keep him caught up to what he would have learned at university. Conversely he doesn't enjoy exertion and is a good enough fighter but not on the level of many of his yearmates. Neal ends up as Alanna's squire, though, and she takes him through a crash course trying to keep both sides sharp. The end villain of the quartet, Blayce, is more completely squishy, a scrawny little "nothing" of a man who relies on his seven-foot bodyguard for protection.
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* VillainByDefault:
** Used and then deconstructed in ''Literature/TheImmortals'' with [[HarpingOnAboutHarpies Stormwings]]. They desecrate bodies on the battlefield and feed on human fear, so they are universally hated by nearly all humans, and most other creatures. In ''Wild Magic'' they simply seem to be evil, helping Tortall's enemies and attacking Daine. She goes into ''Wolf-Speaker'' expecting that they're AlwaysChaoticEvil but several characters argue that she shouldn't. When she meets Rikash, who's taken on an older brother role for a neglected young girl, Daine is forced to grasp that Stormwings are individuals and some are outright decent people.
*** In ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' she says that Stormwings' natures are opposite to that of humans but that doesn't make them all evil. In ''Protector of the Small'' a flock of Stormwings does nothing as a refugee camp is overrun and the children taken away, but during the ''Literature/TrickstersDuet'', some entirely different Stormwings swoop down and rescue children imperiled by a riot.
** It's played more straight with some of the other Immortals, who are simply monsters. Hurrocks, killer unicorns, and killer centaurs are clawed, predatory, bestial versions of winged horses, peaceful unicorns, and peaceful centaurs, though in ''A Spy's Guide'' 'peaceful' unicorns are quite fierce when crossed, and in ''Protector of the Small'' 'peaceful' centaurs are much like humans and some are quite repugnant. [[OurMinotaursAreDifferent Tauroses]] exist to attempt to rape women and kill or be killed. Spidrens, {{Giant Spider}}s with [[BeastWithAHumanFace human heads]], are intelligent enough to speak and use tools and weapons but only see humans as food and are quite sadistic. In the ''Spy's Guide'' Daine mentions hearing that they have to be taught to be cruel but she doubts this.
** Bandits are generally this, existing in ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness'' as little more than a faceless enemy. They're less so in ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' as Kel, fighting them, understands that most bandits are driven to prey on others by extreme poverty rather than inherent evil, and sees starving children among their dependents. This doesn't make her hold back and more of her sympathy is for their victims, but she doesn't celebrate their deaths either. A bandit she fought in ''Page'' reappears as a convict-soldier forced to fight for her in ''Lady Knight''. Kel, seeing that he's now serving his time and isn't trying to make a difficult situation any worse, holds no malice towards him and doesn't allow he and the other convicts to be whipped.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The series tends to bring this in with well-inclined RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething. Given the BlackAndWhiteMorality of the [[Literature/SongOfTheLioness first quartet]] you'd expect a good king/queen making good laws would simply dismantle oppression, but because they aren't absolute monarchs (and the writing becomes more complex) there are complications and progress is often slow.
** ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness'' has Alanna become the [[YouGoGirl first lady knight in living memory]] and absurdly, fantastically heroic and acclaimed. Her friend Prince Jon becomes TheGoodKing, marries the RebelliousPrincess she rescued, and together they enact reforms including abolishing the law that women can't seek knighthood. Little girls are shown being inspired by Alanna. Having [[BreakingTheGlassCeiling broken the glass ceiling]] she expects to not be the only lady knight for long and fantasizes about helping the next one. However, Tortall's misogyny is too entrenched to be so easily dismissed. Alanna, being god-touched and a mage, is seen as an exception, not a demonstration that women are as capable as men. When Kel, [[Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall the next prospective female knight]], enrolls over a decade later, she starts under probation and has a difficult road to walk. Alanna is also barred from contact with her for years, to prevent rumors that she's helping an unworthy person to succeed.
** In ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' Kel's maid is kidnapped at the behest of a noble in order to hurt Kel. When he's caught and brought to trial she expects justice. The readers have heard nothing about the courts being unfair, the previous quartet went to great pains to depict Tortall as being quite enlightened for a feudal culture, and Kel knows that if he'd kidnapped ''her'', he would be in for dire penalties. However the noble, having "only" harmed a servant, is merely made to pay a fine that he shrugs off, and most of that fine doesn't even go to the maid but to Kel. As a feudal society Tortall still holds nobles as more important than commoners. An outraged Kel goes to King Jon about this, and he agrees that the law is unfair and agrees to change it, but also explains why it can't be an instantaneous change. He has to build coalitions and get enough people on his side.
** In ''Literature/BekaCooper'', King Roger is moved by the trials his young son went through after being kidnapped and [[MadeASlave treated as a slave]], and abolishes slavery in Tortall. His son is ecstatic and convinces an uncertain Beka that this is a triumphant moment, a fantastic thing that does away with one of Tortall's great evils and makes it a better place. It does ''eventually'' but like his descendant Jon, Roger's not an absolute monarch and his unilateral action made a lot of his subjects angry - slavery was well-entrenched and there hadn't been a broad push for abolition in Tortall. ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' and ''Literature/TheNumairChronicles'' mention that a civil war resulted and nobles who'd benefited from slavery fought the crown for decades.
** Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds, nuzzled by horses etc [[NobodyPoops won't have the animals make messes]], unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs after which the animals in question are regarded as disgusting. Daine of ''Literature/TheImmortals'' is one such character. Her animal friends ''try'' to be clean for her but horses are always smearing her with grassy saliva and birds, especially if she's treating them for sickness, still [[BirdPoopGag streak her and her things with filth]] on a regular basis, something regarded quite neutrally in the narrative as gross and degrading to more pampered characters but just part of being around animals by everyone else. Similarly if less markedly, friendly sparrows in ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' and pigeons in ''Literature/BekaCooper'' leave droppings which are simply cleaned up and regarded in a manner of fact way.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** In ''Emperor Mage'' and ''Trickster's Queen'', two separate nations (Carthak and the Copper Isles respectively) that practice slavery are taken over by more moderate, reasonable leaders after overthrowing the previous tyrants. However, in both cases, slavery is not abolished by the new leaders, as it is quickly pointed out by everyone involved that the economic impact of suddenly freeing every slave in the country and being forced to provide them with wages instead of just room and board would be ''catastrophic''. Thus, while it's implied that the new rulers are slowly working to phase slavery out, the system itself remains in place for the time being.
** A single female hero, no matter how triumphant or legendary, does not undo centuries of misogyny and paternalistic attitudes towards women. It takes ten years for any noble girl to apply for knight training after Alanna opens the way; no family until the Mindelans would allow their daughter to undertake it. Kel struggles against sexist attitudes from her entry into training all the way through being appointed to command as a knight, including from other women.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Tortallan squires are depicted exclusively as knights-in-training. In the real medieval ages, many were lifelong professional squires. Granted, Tortall is not Earth history, but there was a reason not all squires became knights.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Tortallan squires are depicted exclusively as knights-in-training. knights-in-training, remaining squires for no more than four years. In the real medieval ages, there were many were lifelong professional squires. squires as knights strongly benefited from having support staff. Granted, Tortall is not Earth history, history. 'Squire' in Tortall has only partial relation to 'knight's assistant' as a squire's duties include helping their knight-master, but there was a reason not all squires became knights.primarily seems to mean 'knight cadet'.



* AscendedExtra: Kylaia al Jmaa, who was first mentioned offhand by Liam in ''Lioness Rampant'' as the Shang Unicorn and later became the protagonist of "Student of Ostriches", a short story. You'd be forgiven for thinking she was a new character.

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* AscendedExtra: Kylaia al Jmaa, who was first mentioned offhand by Liam in ''Lioness Rampant'' as the Shang Unicorn and later became the protagonist of "Student of Ostriches", a short story.story in ''Tortall And Other Lands''. You'd be forgiven for thinking she was a new character.



* BreakingTheGlassCeiling: In the first series, Alanna becomes the first female knight in a century, but this isn't publicly known until after she's done it, because she [[SweetPollyOliver disguised herself as a boy]]. As a result of Alanna's achievement, however, Kel (in the third series) is then able to become the first girl since Alanna was knighted to train ''openly'' (and she insists on wearing dresses at dinner to ensure people don't forget that she's a girl).

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* BreakingTheGlassCeiling: In the first series, Alanna becomes the first female knight in a century, but this isn't publicly known until after she's done it, because she [[SweetPollyOliver disguised herself as a boy]]. As a result of Alanna's achievement, however, Kel (in the third series) is then able to become the first girl since Alanna was knighted to train ''openly'' (and she insists on wearing dresses at dinner to ensure people don't forget that she's a girl). Alanna bringing Thayet and Buri to Tortall also leads to the formation of the Queen's Riders, small light semi-military forces which are co-ed and often support more conventional armies.
* CharacterOverlap: Main and supporting characters from one series usually appear, OlderAndWiser, in later ones. Less so in ''Beka Cooper'' as that takes place a few hundred years before the other stories (so there's the Cat, and otherwise a number of characters are the ancestors of characters in the later books), and in ''Tempests and Slaughter'' as that takes place at the same time as ''Song of the Lioness'' but a continent away.



* ContinuityNod: Every single new series is packed with references to the previous series, mostly through the reappearance of old characters. In ''First Test'', one moment concerning Numair from ''Wolf-Speaker'' is mentioned. One of the best things about this series is that characters age and change between books and series, and it's always good seeing what the heroes from previous books are up to. ''Beka Cooper'', while a prequel trilogy, has a great number of relatively subtler calls to books written earlier. Well, and [[spoiler:the Cat]].

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* ContinuityNod: Every single new series is packed with references to the previous series, mostly through the reappearance of old characters. In ''First Test'', one moment concerning Numair from ''Wolf-Speaker'' is mentioned. One of the best things about this series is that characters age and change between books and series, and it's always good seeing what the heroes from previous books are up to. ''Beka Cooper'', while a prequel trilogy, has a great number of relatively subtler calls to books written earlier. Well, and [[spoiler:the Cat]].the Cat.



* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: Alanna is a noble who pretends to be a boy to become a MagicKnight, Daine is a backwoods demigoddess orphan who becomes a NatureHero, Keladry is a normal (noble) girl with normal (noble) parents who becomes a BadassNormal lady knight, Aly is the daughter of Alanna and George and is a GuileHero spy, and Beka is a commoner who works as a police officer and has a connection to the Black God.

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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: Alanna is a noble who pretends to be a boy to become a MagicKnight, Daine is a backwoods demigoddess orphan who becomes a NatureHero, Keladry is a normal (noble) girl with normal (noble) parents who becomes a BadassNormal lady knight, Aly is the daughter of Alanna and George and is a GuileHero spy, and Beka is a commoner who works as a police officer and has a connection to the Black God.God, and Arram is a ''boy'' and a powerful mage in training who, at least in his first book, has a much easier time of things than the others.



* DeadGuyJunior: Multiple characters end up naming their children after deceased characters, not just limited to the royals. Among the more notable examples are Alanna's children Thom, Alianne and Alan, the latter two named after both her father and the name Alanna went by during her {{Masquerade}}.

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* DeadGuyJunior: Multiple characters end up naming their children after deceased characters, not just limited to the royals. royals, but it is fun to look at ''Song of the Lioness'' and ''Beka Cooper'' and see that Roger, Gareth, and Baird are names that have stayed in the line.
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Among the more notable examples are Alanna's children Thom, Alianne and Alan, the latter two named after both her father and the name Alanna went by during her {{Masquerade}}.
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** Finally, in the "speaking with the dead" sense, the titular ''Literature/BekaCooper'' has a minor magical affinity for spirits. Pigeons are (mostly) unwitting psychopomps that carry the dead until they slip into the Peaceful Realms. Beka can hear their passengers and later communicate with them and uses this to try to solve murders. The [[DontFearTheReaper Black God]] favors her for this. Farmer Cape, the mage she meets in the third book, has a spell that can let him listen in on Beka's conversations and another spell that allows him to speak to the dead who've passed entirely out of the mortal world, though he does note that they forget things quickly and so it's not always as useful as one might think.

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** Finally, in the "speaking with the dead" "DeadPersonConversation" sense, the titular ''Literature/BekaCooper'' has a minor magical affinity for spirits. Pigeons are (mostly) unwitting psychopomps that carry the dead until they slip into the Peaceful Realms. Beka can hear their passengers and later communicate with them and uses this to try to solve murders. The [[DontFearTheReaper Black God]] favors her for this. Farmer Cape, the mage she meets in the third book, has a spell that can let him listen in on Beka's conversations and another spell that allows him to speak to the dead who've passed entirely out of the mortal world, though he does note that they forget things quickly and so it's not always as useful as one might think.
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** At the end of the second book of ''In The Hands Of The Goddess' Alanna finally kills her archenemy Duke Roger and leaves court. [[spoiler: Thom stays behind and is swayed by Roger's followers, who alternately flatter him and put him down until he brings Roger back to life. Purportedly he was NotQuiteDead but in a "sorceror's sleep" that had him BuriedAlive for the eight months it took before Thom raised him - regardless, he CameBackWrong, having gone from wanting the throne to wanting to throw a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum. He was also able to draw on Thom's strength and magic, though he claimed to have left his own magic in the grave.]]

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* MindControlDevice: Numair and his eyes. Blayce and his thing. Numair explains that they need your attention but sufficiently powerful mages don't need an object. Often: AttentionDeficitOohShiny.

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* MindControlDevice: In ''Alanna the First Adventure'', Roger plays with a jeweled pendant while telling Prince Jonathan about the Black City and how it's very cool but he totally shouldn't go there, oh no. Jon, of course, sneaks out to go see it, which would have got him killed if Alanna hadn't followed. Later in ''Lady Knight'' Numair accidentally dazzles Kel with his eyes and his eyes. Blayce and his thing. Numair then explains that they mages need your someone's attention and something shiny in order to plant compulsions; he can do it through eye contact, but sufficiently powerful mages don't most others need an actual object. Often: AttentionDeficitOohShiny.Blayce tries to dazzle Kel with a jewel but, remembering the lesson, she manages to push past it.



* NarrativeProfanityFilter: Phrases like "Alanna swore colorfully" are used until the ''Beka Cooper'' books, where the actual curses are printed.
* NiceToTheWaiter: Everyone good is this, everyone bad is not. [[InformedAttribute We keep being told]] by the huge cast of nobles who care about commoners that it's atypical in Tortall for nobles to care about commoners. The only main cast member to do this is Kel's friend Merric, who, while certainly not cruel or miserly, tells her and Neal at one point that they're too concerned and generous. This is corrected in Beka's books, however, since she has to deal with loads of annoying nobles (and even upper middle-class commoners) who are offended at being questioned by a member of the unwashed masses.

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* NarrativeProfanityFilter: Phrases like "Alanna swore colorfully" are heavily used until in the early books. Midway through this filter is still used but gods are often called upon in profanity. In the ''Beka Cooper'' books, where books the actual curses are printed.
printed, though in archaic forms such as 'fusst'.
* {{Necromancy}}:
** The goddess known as the Graveyard Hag can briefly grant the ability to raise the dead to her [[CosmicPlaything pawns]], one of whom roused a graveyard's worth of humans at some unknown point in the past. The power works by touch but doesn't work for free - waking ''one'' corpse can leave the 'necromancer' lightheaded and dizzy but fine, waking several in succession will kill them, and they have to make their own arrangements for the power required to raise an army. The dead feel no pain or distress and seem to default to mildly following their necromancer's orders. In ''Emperor Mage'' [[spoiler: Daine, finding herself favored by the Hag, resists the idea of waking humans and accidentally rouses several preserved dead animals (such as a tiger skin rug) until her RageBreakingPoint at the climax of the book, which has her touching a whole lot of dinosaur bones]].
** The actual word 'necromancer' comes up once in ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' referring Blayce. [[spoiler: He's built steel-and-bone constructs only known as "killing devices", which are PoweredByAForsakenChild (literally; he kills children to use their souls to power the devices, and the uneasy heroes note that there's no reason why his victims have to ''be'' children, it's simply that he likes that). Blayce claims this is simply where his talents lie and he can't help being a necromancer.]]
** Finally, in the "speaking with the dead" sense, the titular ''Literature/BekaCooper'' has a minor magical affinity for spirits. Pigeons are (mostly) unwitting psychopomps that carry the dead until they slip into the Peaceful Realms. Beka can hear their passengers and later communicate with them and uses this to try to solve murders. The [[DontFearTheReaper Black God]] favors her for this. Farmer Cape, the mage she meets in the third book, has a spell that can let him listen in on Beka's conversations and another spell that allows him to speak to the dead who've passed entirely out of the mortal world, though he does note that they forget things quickly and so it's not always as useful as one might think.
* NiceToTheWaiter: Everyone In the early books everyone good is this, good to commoners, everyone bad is not. [[InformedAttribute We keep being told]] by the huge cast of nobles who care about commoners that it's atypical in Tortall for nobles to care about commoners. The only main cast member to do this is Kel's friend Merric, who, while certainly not cruel or miserly, tells her and Neal at one point that they're too concerned and generous. This is corrected
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in Beka's books, however, since she has to deal with loads of annoying nobles (and even upper middle-class commoners) who are offended at being questioned by a member of the unwashed masses.masses. She dislikes seeing a noble clear beggars from his path by having servants scatter copper coins like grain for the beggars to dive after. It works and is better than keeping them back with violence but it's also very dehumanizing.
** It's zigged and zagged in ''Tempests and Slaughter''. Arram is unfailingly good to commoners and deeply uncomfortable about the brand of EnlightenedSelfInterest displayed by healer-students working at a field hospital in a pandemic; they have no compassion for the poor and are only working for them to get their degrees. Ozorne and Varice, on the other hand, are kind, neutral, or cruel depending wildly on the circumstances. Arram, being the point of view character and very invested in his friends being good people, ignores or rationalizes away most of their harsh moments.
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* GodsNeedPrayerBadly: In ''Tempests and Slaughter'' a teacher tells Arram that mortal prayers, tribute, and respect strengthens the gods and helps them as they fight to subdue Uusoae.
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In 2019, it was [[https://www.cbr.com/tamora-pierce-tortall-universe-tv-series/ announced]] that Lionsgate and Playground Entertainment were working on a TV adaptation of the series.

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In 2019, it was [[https://www.cbr.com/tamora-pierce-tortall-universe-tv-series/ announced]] that Lionsgate and Playground Entertainment were working on a TV adaptation of the series.
series. Unfortunately, [[https://www.facebook.com/OfficialTamoraPierce/posts/pfbid0rBa75wBf6GcUA9wtt3MQAb5yBPYcSr64shccvo54Uba4SAXi8U5tGC3XEKVd2Yhl the deal fell through]] in 2022 as a result of the COVID-19 Pandemic.
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* BlackAndWhiteMorality: Initially the case, but as Pierce develops as a writer morality becomes less clear-cut. Her heroines are always good and face at least one truly evil enemy, but there's increasing nuance in the details. Nearly everyone who likes Alanna, and who she likes back, is outright good while those who are cruel to her are evil. She sees the gods, who favor her, as purely good. Daine comes to realize that some of the initially-antagonistic Stormwings and other Immortals have motives she understands and can ally with her, and that just because a man loves animals doesn't mean he's a good person. Kel is possibly the [[IncorruptiblePurePureness purest idealist]] of Pierce's heroines, but she has to navigate an unfair world and understand the value of compromise, and readily understands that just because someone's an UngratefulBastard doesn't mean they should be left to suffer. Aly is sketchier in many ways, as are plenty of her allies, some of whom duck the responsibilities placed upon them, and in her experience the gods are [[JerkassGods certainly not benign]]. Beka, as a commoner Dog, is the protagonist with the least societal power and sees the worst of Tortall. She is literally more corrupt than the others in that she takes bribes, while still being strictly principled.

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* BlackAndWhiteMorality: Initially the case, but as Pierce develops as a writer morality becomes less clear-cut. Her heroines are always good and face at least one truly evil enemy, but there's increasing nuance in the details. Nearly everyone who likes Alanna, and who whom she likes back, is outright good while those who are cruel to her are evil. She sees the gods, who favor her, as purely good. Daine comes to realize that some of the initially-antagonistic Stormwings and other Immortals have motives she understands and can ally with her, and that just because a man loves animals doesn't mean he's a good person. Kel is possibly the [[IncorruptiblePurePureness purest idealist]] of Pierce's heroines, but she has to navigate an unfair world and understand the value of compromise, and readily understands that just because someone's an UngratefulBastard doesn't mean they should be left to suffer. Aly is sketchier in many ways, as are plenty of her allies, some of whom duck the responsibilities placed upon them, and in her experience the gods are [[JerkassGods certainly not benign]]. Beka, as a commoner Dog, is the protagonist with the least societal power and sees the worst of Tortall. She is literally more corrupt than the others in that she takes bribes, while still being strictly principled.



** In Beka's time there was relative gender equality, though even at the time there was a spreading cultural influence telling women to StayInTheKitchen; by Alanna's time that's the norm. Her example and the allies she makes, other women warriors included, set a lot of changes in motion.

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** In Beka's time there was relative gender equality, though even at the time there was a spreading cultural influence telling women to StayInTheKitchen; by Alanna's time that's the norm. Her example and the allies she makes, other women woman warriors included, set a lot of changes in motion.



* NobodyPoops: Completely averted through small mentions of characters going to the bathroom in the middle or end of a scene, and latrines. In ''Lady Knight'' Kel volunteers to clean the lantrine in 'lead by example' humility. It's taken up to eleven in ''Mastiff''. Beka describes often and at great length the many times her scent hound Achoo finds a spot where their quarry relieved himself on the road. And then of course we had Saucebox demonstrating his opinion of Pounce's high opinion of himself.

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* NobodyPoops: Completely averted through small mentions of characters going to the bathroom in the middle or end of a scene, and latrines. In ''Lady Knight'' Kel volunteers to clean the lantrine latrine in 'lead by example' humility. It's taken up to eleven in ''Mastiff''. Beka describes often and at great length the many times her scent hound Achoo finds a spot where their quarry relieved himself on the road. And then of course we had Saucebox demonstrating his opinion of Pounce's high opinion of himself.



* SecretRelationship: That Alanna and Jonathan were romantically involved in their youth and even seriously considered marriage, to the point that [[BrosBeforeHoes Thayet initially angsted about accepting his advances for fear of endangering her friendship with Alanna]], is evidently far from common knowledge even decades after the fact, despite the fact that [[EveryoneCanSeeIt they weren't terribly discreet about it at the time.]] Well {{Justified}} in that four books into the series, they're both married, FamedInStory, and highly visible political figures whose reputations (particularly Alanna's) could be very heavily damaged if this information were to become public, because her position as King's Champion would seem like an obvious conflict of interest.

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* SecretRelationship: That Alanna and Jonathan were romantically involved in their youth and even seriously considered marriage, to the point that [[BrosBeforeHoes Thayet initially angsted about accepting his advances for fear of endangering her friendship with Alanna]], is evidently far from common knowledge even decades after the fact, despite the fact that [[EveryoneCanSeeIt they weren't terribly discreet about it at the time.]] time]]. Well {{Justified}} in that four books into the series, they're both married, FamedInStory, and highly visible political figures whose reputations (particularly Alanna's) could be very heavily damaged if this information were to become public, because her position as King's Champion would seem like an obvious conflict of interest.



* ShoutOut: Gainel, god of dreams, is one to Creator/NeilGaiman.

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* ShoutOut: Gainel, god of dreams, is one to Creator/NeilGaiman.Creator/NeilGaiman, author of ''[[ComicBook/TheSandman1989 The Sandman]]''.
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--> '''Weiryn''': "What makes you think our first duty is to be kind? Too much tenderness is bad for mortals. They improve themselves only by struggling. Everyone knows that."
--> Daine blinked. He sounded like those humans who claimed that poverty made the poor into nobler souls.

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--> ---> '''Weiryn''': "What makes you think our first duty is to be kind? Too much tenderness is bad for mortals. They improve themselves only by struggling. Everyone knows that."
--> ---> Daine blinked. He sounded like those humans who claimed that poverty made the poor into nobler souls.

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** Gainel, the god of dreams, is kindly to Daine but has little regard for human life and supports the return of the Immortals to the human realms because they support richer dreams and nightmares.
** Minor gods are often better. Several animal gods that Daine meets range from brusque but good and helpful to outright friendly and giving. Daine's mother was [[DeityOfHumanOrigin raised]] into a small goddess of midwives and helps intervene in difficult childbirths.

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** Gainel, the god of dreams, is kindly to Daine and Numair but has little regard for human life and supports the return of the Immortals to the human realms because they support richer dreams and nightmares.
** The God of the Hunt [[spoiler: Daine's father]] tells Daine that pain and suffering may trouble gods but don't hurt and burden them as they do to mortals. Daine says the gods would be kinder if they were hurt more, and the god scoffs at her.
--> '''Weiryn''': "What makes you think our first duty is to be kind? Too much tenderness is bad for mortals. They improve themselves only by struggling. Everyone knows that."
--> Daine blinked. He sounded like those humans who claimed that poverty made the poor into nobler souls.
** Minor gods are often better. Several animal gods that Daine meets range from brusque but good and helpful to outright friendly and giving. Daine's mother was [[DeityOfHumanOrigin raised]] into a small goddess of midwives and specific to a particular region, who helps intervene in difficult childbirths.with childbirth, illness, and troubles of the heart.

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