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* {{Hypocrite}}: Richard somewhat grifts Dr. Roland. He asks for an advance on his work-study payment -- not exactly asking for a hand-out -- but upon being handed the check, his first thought is, "Maybe he would even forget he had given it to me." When Bunny pulls his "forgotten wallet" shtick with Richard, Richard judges him.

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* AbusiveParents: All over the place. Richard's father used to beat both him and his mother. Francis's mother is a neglectful alcoholic who dates men almost his own age and propositions his friends for threesomes. Bunny's parents abandon him at schools they can barely afford the fees for and don't give him a penny to live on while he's there. Tartt also hints at this with Henry, who is mostly estranged from his father for no reason that we ever learn. Henry suffered a serious injury that gave him permanent facial scarring as a child, and Bunny gets very uncomfortable talking about it.

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* AbusiveParents: All over the place. place.
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Richard's father used to beat both him and his mother. mother.
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Francis's mother is a neglectful an alcoholic who dates men almost his own age and propositions his friends for threesomes. threesomes.
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Bunny's parents abandon him at schools they can barely afford the fees for and don't give him a penny to live on while he's there. Tartt also hints at this there.
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with Henry, who is mostly estranged from his father for no reason that we ever learn. Henry suffered a serious injury that gave him permanent facial scarring as a child, and Bunny gets very uncomfortable talking about it.
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''The Secret History'' was Creator/DonnaTartt's immensely successful first novel, released in 1992.

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''The Secret History'' was Creator/DonnaTartt's immensely successful first novel, released in 1992.
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--->'''''The Secret History'':''' ''On the way to Francis's, a pregnant dog ran across the road in front of us. "That," said Henry, "is a very bad omen."''\\
'''''Odes'' by {{Creator/Horace}}''': ''Let the wicked be led by omens of screeching from owls, by pregnant dogs, or a grey-she wolf, hurrying down from Lanuvian meadows, or a fox with young."''

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--->'''''The --->'''The Secret History'':''' ''On History:''' On the way to Francis's, a pregnant dog ran across the road in front of us. "That," said Henry, "is a very bad omen."''\\
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by {{Creator/Horace}}''': ''Let Let the wicked be led by omens of screeching from owls, by pregnant dogs, or a grey-she wolf, hurrying down from Lanuvian meadows, or a fox with young."''"

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** Julian Morrow is said to have been acquainted with literary figures including Creator/TSEliot and Creator/GeorgeOrwell

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** Julian Morrow is said to have been acquainted with literary figures including Creator/TSEliot and Creator/GeorgeOrwellCreator/GeorgeOrwell.
** The omen of a pregnant dog:
--->'''''The Secret History'':''' ''On the way to Francis's, a pregnant dog ran across the road in front of us. "That," said Henry, "is a very bad omen."''\\
'''''Odes'' by {{Creator/Horace}}''': ''Let the wicked be led by omens of screeching from owls, by pregnant dogs, or a grey-she wolf, hurrying down from Lanuvian meadows, or a fox with young."''

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** A few details leak through at other moments, though. When Bunny is bullying Camilla and their conviction to do this building, Richard thinks about how dramatically, how SlowMotionFall, Bunny's fall looked. At Bunny's funeral, Richard thinks about how Henry went down to check Bunny's neck really was broken.

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** A few details leak through at other moments, though. When Bunny is bullying Camilla and their conviction to do this building, Richard thinks about how dramatically, how SlowMotionFall, Bunny's fall looked. At Bunny's funeral, funeral when Henry is a pallbearer, Richard thinks about how Henry went down to check Bunny's neck really was broken.broken. At the funeral when Camilla is fighting with her umbrella, he thinks about how she'd climbed down with Henry to check.


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-->''This was a tale that told itself simply and well: the loose rocks, the body at the bottom of the ravine with a clean break in the neck, and the muddy skidmarks of dug-in heels pointing the way down; a hiking accident, no more, no less,''
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* ThereAreNoTherapists: The clique think there's nothing wrong with them, and, culturally, would have no interest in therapy even if they did. Still, in his very first session of Greek class, though, Richard remarks that an average contemporary person would quickly conclude that these people all need therapy. He does not interpret this as a red flag.
-->''To modern tastes they were somewhat chilling. I imagine any other teacher would've been on the phone to Psychological Counseling in about five minutes had he heard what Henry said about arming the Greek class and marching into Hampden town.''
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-->'''Julian:''' I think we're much more hypocritical about illness, and poverty, than were people in former ages. In America, the rich man tries to pretend that the poor man is his equal in every respect but money, which is simply not true.

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-->'''Julian:''' I think we're much more hypocritical about illness, and poverty, than were people in former ages. In America, the rich man tries to pretend that the poor man is his equal in every respect but money, which is simply not true. Does anyone remember Plato's definition of Justice in Literature/TheRepublic? Justice, in a society, is when each level of a hierarchy works within its place and is content with it. A poor man who wishes to rise above his station is only making himself needlessly miserable. And the wise poor have always known this, the same as do the wise rich.

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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: The Classics clique cultivate around them an aura of TheForties or TheFifties. It generally seems like the novel is set in TheEighties because Donna Tartt attended Bennington College between 1982 and 1986 and that's very overtly the inspiration behind the story -- particularly the setting. That said, there's also a couple throwaway references suggesting it's set the late 80s or early TheNineties. The book was published in 1992.
** Dr Roland drives a "98 Regency Brougham, ten years old." This is a NonIndicativeName, and the 98 Regency Brougham was introduced for 1982. 10 years old would bring us to 1992.
** The Dean of Studies refers to [[Literature/TheSatanicVerses the Rushdie Affair]] (1988), saying "I can't for the life of me imagine what the Isramis would want with Julian. Hampden's own Creator/SalmanRushdie."
** There's a TV show, ''Tonight in Vermont'', which is described as "in imitation of Oprah and Phil." ''Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow'' began in 1986.
** An offhanded mention of UsefulNotes/SaddamHussein.

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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: The Classics clique cultivate around them an aura themselves a microcosm reminiscent of TheForties or TheFifties. It TheForties. Outside of their claustrophobic little world, it generally seems like the novel is set in TheEighties because the TheEighties. Donna Tartt attended Bennington College between 1982 and 1986 and that's very overtly the inspiration behind the story -- and particularly the setting. That said, there's also a couple throwaway references suggesting it's set the late 80s or early TheNineties. The She began writing the book in 1983 and it was published in 1992.
** Dr Roland drives a "98 Regency Brougham, ten years old." This is a NonIndicativeName,
1992, and the 98 Regency Brougham was introduced for 1982. 10 years old would bring us it seems to 1992.
have picked up things from that whole span.
** The Dean of Studies refers to [[Literature/TheSatanicVerses the Rushdie Affair]] (1988), saying "I can't for the life of me imagine what the Isramis would want with Julian. Hampden's References from after Donna's own Creator/SalmanRushdie."
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There's a TV show, ''Tonight in Vermont'', which is described as "in imitation of Oprah and Phil." ''Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow'' began in 1986.
** *** The Dean of Studies says: "I can't for the life of me imagine what the Isramis would want with Julian. Hampden's own Creator/SalmanRushdie." The fatwa calling for Rushdie's assassination was issued in February 1989.
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An offhanded mention of UsefulNotes/SaddamHussein.UsefulNotes/SaddamHussein.
*** Dr Roland (admittedly an UnreliableExpositor) drives a "98 Regency Brougham, ten years old." The [[NonIndicativeName Non-Indicatively Named]] 98 Regency Brougham was introduced for 1982, so (unless there's ExactlyExtyYearsAgo rounding going on) a 10-year-old car would bring us to 1992.
** There's also a handful of references (always in the mouths of an UnreliableExpositor) which are incorrect:
*** US President UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter's first term began in 1977. He was not president in 1975.
*** Egyptian President Anwar Sadat was assassinated in 1981, not 1982.
*** [[{{Music/Carpenters}} Karen Carpenter]] had anorexia, not bulimia.

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* TheEighties: It generally seems like the novel (except the epilogue) is set in the 80s. Richard is 19 when he starts Hampton and turns 20 in February. He's 28 in the pro/epilogue (time of year unknown), creating a 9 or 8 year gap. The book was published in 1992 so--if you equate that to the story and subtract the gap--then it's set in 1983 or 1984. More importantly, Donna Tartt attended Bennington College between 1982 and 1986, and that's very overtly the inspiration behind the story. A couple references that might date it are:
** On April 24 (the day of Bunny's murder) Judy refers to "an eating disorder, not anorexia, but that [[{{Music/Carpenters}} Karen Carpenter]] thing where you make yourself puke." Karan Carpenter died in February 1983 (although of anorexia, not bulimia). So it's set in the school year of 1982-1983 at the very earliest.
** A throwaway reference to UsefulNotes/SaddamHussein suggests it may be set in the early part of TheNineties.


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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: The Classics clique cultivate around them an aura of TheForties or TheFifties. It generally seems like the novel is set in TheEighties because Donna Tartt attended Bennington College between 1982 and 1986 and that's very overtly the inspiration behind the story -- particularly the setting. That said, there's also a couple throwaway references suggesting it's set the late 80s or early TheNineties. The book was published in 1992.
** Dr Roland drives a "98 Regency Brougham, ten years old." This is a NonIndicativeName, and the 98 Regency Brougham was introduced for 1982. 10 years old would bring us to 1992.
** The Dean of Studies refers to [[Literature/TheSatanicVerses the Rushdie Affair]] (1988), saying "I can't for the life of me imagine what the Isramis would want with Julian. Hampden's own Creator/SalmanRushdie."
** There's a TV show, ''Tonight in Vermont'', which is described as "in imitation of Oprah and Phil." ''Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow'' began in 1986.
** An offhanded mention of UsefulNotes/SaddamHussein.

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* HidingBehindTheLanguageBarrier: In the aftermath of Bunny's death, Richard takes to hanging out with Judy, and her friends Tracy and Beth. Francis comes by during that time and tries to gossip about the investigaron and the Corcoran family in front of them in Ancient Greek. Since it's a dead language, Ancient Greek class is mostly concerned with formal literature. (In contrast, a Spanish class is much more interested in teaching you how to converse casually about day-to-day things.) Constrained by the Ancient Green vocabulary they know, their everyday conversation has an odd, poetic slant.
-->'''Francis:''' ''[in Ancient Greek]'' There has been much rumor. The mother grieves. Not for her son, for she is a wicked woman. Rather she grieves for the shame which has fallen on her house. […] There is talk among the citizens. It is shameful for a young man to die while drunk.

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* HidingBehindTheLanguageBarrier: In a thematic sense, learning a living language is ''expansive'', it allows you to talk to ''more'' people, while learning a dead language allows you to be insular with a small group of people.
** The whole clique has studied Latin with Julian, except for Richard, who only knows Greek. When Richard looks back at the time when his friends were planning the bacchanal and excluding him from it, he remembers them sometimes making "asides in Greek or even Latin which I was well aware were meant to go over my head."
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In the aftermath of Bunny's death, Richard takes to hanging out with Judy, Judy and her friends Tracy and Beth. friends. Francis comes by during that time and tries to gossip with Richard about the investigaron investigation and the Corcoran family in front of them in Ancient Greek. Since it's a dead language, Ancient Greek class is mostly concerned with formal literature. (In contrast, a Spanish class is much more interested in teaching you how to converse casually about day-to-day things.) Constrained by the Ancient Green Greek vocabulary they know, their everyday conversation has an odd, odd poetic slant.
-->'''Francis:''' --->'''Francis:''' ''[in Ancient Greek]'' There has been much rumor. The mother grieves. Not for her son, for she is a wicked woman. Rather she grieves for the shame which has fallen on her house. […] There […]\\
'''Richard:''' And why, pray tell, does she care?\\
'''Francis:''' Because there
is talk among the citizens. It is shameful for a young man to die while drunk.
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--->'''Mr Corcoran:''' You kids, better hope you've got friends like this one. [...] Just goes to show, ''never judge a book by its cover.'' Old Henry here may look like he's got a stick up his butt but there never breathed a finer fella.

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* IfOnlyYouKnew: Julian has a poor opinion of young people taking drugs. It's a good thing he's so good at selective perception, or he'd like his students rather less well.
-->'''Julian:''' [The detectives] said that Edmund was on drugs. Do you think that odd? I think it very odd. I said certainly not. I may be flattering myself, but I do think I know Edmund rather well. He's really quite timid, puritanical, almost... I can't imagine him doing anything of the sort and besides, young people who take drugs are always so bovine and prosaic. But do you know what this man said to me? He said that with young people, ''you can never tell''. I don't think that's right, do you?

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[The detectives] said that Edmund was on drugs. Do you think that odd? I think it very odd. I said certainly not. I may be flattering myself, but I do think I know Edmund rather well. He's really quite timid, puritanical, almost... I can't imagine him doing anything of the sort and besides, young people who take drugs are always so bovine and prosaic. But do you know what this man said to me? He said that with young people, ''you can never tell''. I don't think that's right, do you?you?
** Bunny's dad gives a speech about how Henry was Bunny's best friend, and how everyone should have a friend like that.

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