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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: UsefulNotes/AlCapone betrays the Five Points Gang to the IWW. He later appears leading a commando unit called "The Outfit".

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* DeadlyGas: Among some of the more questionable actions committed by the Reds during the Second American Revolution involves poisonous gas being used on at least two occasions to weaken/decimate the White forces and swing battles in their favour.



** [[TruthInTelevision Similar to OTL]] in how he handled the Spanish Flu, President Wilson refused to act in any way to halt the spread of the [[ThePlague American Flu]] on the grounds that the military situation was 'too perilous', and even opined that it was 'divine punishment' upon the Reds. Unfortunately for the Whites, this left them much less prepared to deal with the American Flu than the Reds and leaving them decimated by it when it inevitably spread to them.



* ThePlague: The Spanish Flu appears in this timeline as well, only it is called the ''American'' Flu, owing to its appearance in Kansas[[note:While the precise origin of the 1918 flu pandemic remains disputed, the first confirmed case was diagnosed at an Army camp in Kansas]].

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* ThePlague: The Spanish Flu appears in this timeline as well, only it is called the ''American'' Flu, owing to its appearance in Kansas[[note:While the precise origin of the 1918 flu pandemic remains disputed, the first confirmed case was diagnosed at an Army camp in Kansas]]. Leon Bronstein almost became a victim of it, but recovered just in time to coordinate the Delmarva Offensive. It was noted that while it indiscriminately infected and decimated both the Reds and Whites, it ultimately hurted the Whites more as the Reds have better access to medical care, while the Whites failed to do proper preparations due to both lacking the industries to produce them (most of them fell to the Reds' control) and mistakes by the Whites leadership which caused delays and problems to combat the disease.
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** Douglas MacArthur is killed at the Battle of Mine Ridge.

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** Douglas MacArthur [=MacArthur=] is killed at the Battle of Mine Ridge.

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* DeathByAdaptation: Several historic figures die earlier than in our history.
** Theodore Roosevelt does not survive his assassination attempt in 1912.
** Douglas MacArthur is killed at the Battle of Mine Ridge.
** Senator Robert [=LaFollete=] is executed after the exposure of the Chandler Scheme.



* HopeSpot:
** Theodore Roosevelt's presidential election in 1912 could potentially allow for progressive and labour reforms in America which could avert a potential socialist revolution. Unfortunately unlike in OTL, his assassin managed to kill him.
** During the Second American Revolution, Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler devised a 'Hail Mary' plan which may allow for a peaceful settlement with the Reds and end the CivilWar with the United States of America intact and no further bloodshed. Unfortunately he and his fellow conspirators were caught by J. Edgar Hoover and the Bureau of Investigation’s General Intelligence Division before they could contact the Reds with it, ending even the slimmest possibility of peace.


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* HopeSpot:
** Theodore Roosevelt's presidential election in 1912 could potentially allow for progressive and labour reforms in America which could avert a potential socialist revolution. Unfortunately unlike in OTL, his assassin managed to kill him.
** During the Second American Revolution, Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler devised a 'Hail Mary' plan which may allow for a peaceful settlement with the Reds and end the CivilWar with the United States of America intact and no further bloodshed. Unfortunately he and his fellow conspirators were caught by J. Edgar Hoover and the Bureau of Investigation’s General Intelligence Division before they could contact the Reds with it, ending even the slimmest possibility of peace.


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* SparedByTheAdaptation: Daniel DeLeon, a highly influential American socialist thinker, survives the illness that killed him IOTL thanks to his newspaper, the ''Daily Worker'', being more successful, which in turn improves his living situation and access to medical care.

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* ThePlague: The Spanish Flu appears in this timeline as well, only it is called the ''American'' Flu, owing to its appearance in Kansas[[note:While the precise origin of the 1918 flu pandemic remains disputed, the first confirmed case was diagnosed at an Army camp in Kansas]].



** Creator/TomClancy, Condoleeza Rice, Creator/AaronSorkin, and [[Creator/GamesWorkshop Matt Ward]] are the authors of some of the in-universe historical texts.

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** Creator/TomClancy, Rand Paul, Dennis Prager, Condoleeza Rice, Creator/AaronSorkin, and [[Creator/GamesWorkshop Matt Ward]] are the authors of some of the in-universe historical texts.


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** UsefulNotes/GeorgePatton becomes a director after the war.


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* ThemeNaming:
** As with the Civil War, the Whites name their armies after geographic features (e.g. Army of the Chesapeake, Army of the Plains). The Reds name theirs after cities (e.g. Army of Manhattan, Army of Denver). The exception is Bill Haywood's Army of Cascades, which follows the White theme despite being a Red army.
** Industrial cooperatives (worker-owned companies) are named for their place of origin, usually their home city.
*** Following the Soviet model, Red military aircraft are named after their manufacturer, such as the Buf-1 bomber from the Buffalo Air and Motor Cooperative.


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** Played straight by the Russian revolutionaries. Following the Minsk Agreement, which effectively cedes much of Eastern Europe to German control, Lenin's Bolsheviks and Kropotkin's Anarchists turn on each other.
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* RedScare: Starting even as the Second American Revolution is still ongoing, Red America is already causing terror across the world over the potential spread of Communism. This would have wide-ranging effects across the world, including the rise of Falangism as the TFND-verse's equivalent of Fascism.

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* RedScare: Starting even as the Second American Revolution is still ongoing, Red America is already causing terror across the world over the potential spread of Communism. This would have wide-ranging effects across down the world, timeline, including causing the rise of Falangism as the TFND-verse's equivalent of Fascism.
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* RedScare: Starting even as the Second American Revolution is still ongoing, Red America is already causing terror across the world over the potential spread of Communism. This would have wide-ranging effects across the world, including the rise of Falangism as the TFND-verse's equivalent of Fascism.
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The Bolsheviks had been featured as junior partners of an alliance with the anarchists


** As a result of changes from the points of divergence, the events of the Russian Revolution happened differently, such that the Bolsheviks were suppressed during the July Days and it was the Anarchists under Peter Kropotkin who led an uprising at St Petersburg in August to seize control of Russia, which is implied to be doomed to fail between the lack of legitimacy and Kerensky managing to escape to Moscow to order General Kornilov to bring his army to crush them and other revolts.

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** As a result of changes from the points of divergence, the events of the Russian Revolution happened differently, such that the Bolsheviks were suppressed during the July Days and it was the Anarchists under Peter Kropotkin who led an uprising at St Petersburg in August to seize control of Russia, which is implied to be doomed to fail between the lack of legitimacy and Kerensky managing to escape to Moscow to order General Kornilov to bring his army to crush them and other revolts.
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* MuggingTheMonster: The Carl Johnson incident is an unusual example. On his own, one black sailor was no threat to three deputized Klansmen. However, they did not reckon with his CO, one [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_J._King Ernest J. King]], who was infamous (both IOTL and ITTL) for his temper, as well as being AFatherToHisMen.

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* ForWantOfANail:

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* ForWantOfANail: TheFamine: Almost occurred in the UK as a result of the Second American Revolution cutting off grain supplies, though it was averted by a timely deal made with the Reds who controlled much of the agricultural regions of the US.
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** As a result of changes from the points of divergence, the events of the Russian Revolution happened differently, such that the Bolsheviks were suppressed during the July Days and it was the Anarchists under Peter Kropotkin who led an uprising at St Petersburg in August to seize control of Russia, which is implied to be doomed to fail between the lack of legitimacy and Kerensky managing to escape to Moscow to order General Kornilov to bring his army to crush them and other revolts.
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** The Wilson Administration's decision to discharge all African Americans from all United States Armed Forces during the Second American Revolution was meant to secure their armed forces from a supposed pro-socialist fifth column they poised. Not only did it have a negligible effect for the army (as they were already not trusted in command), but it triggered the Great Mutiny in the United States Navy which costed them the Atlantic Fleet, since the ships and their sailors would rather defect to the Reds then turn own their fellow sailors, especially knowing that this would put them at the mercy of the Klansmen whom Wilson had allied to fight the Reds with.

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** The Wilson Administration's decision to discharge all African Americans from all the United States Armed Forces during the Second American Revolution was meant to secure their armed forces from a the supposed pro-socialist fifth column they poised. Not only did it have a negligible effect for the army (as they were already not trusted in command), but it triggered the Great Mutiny in the United States Navy which costed cost them the Atlantic Fleet, since the ships and their sailors would rather defect to the Reds then turn own on their fellow sailors, especially knowing that this would put them at the mercy of the Klansmen whom Wilson had allied with to fight the Reds with.Reds.



** The Wilson Administration's decision to crack down hard on the socialists and labour unions when they protested and striked America's entry to the First World War would backfire horribly, as the American Left was much more unified and coordinated than in OTL. Rather than being fragmented and hammered down, they rose up and launched the Second American Revolution.
** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all African-American servicemen from the US military during the Second American Revolution (Following an incident involving an African-American sailor and Klansmen) triggered the Great Mutiny which saw more than half ''the entire Atlantic Fleet'' defecting to the Reds.

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** The Wilson Administration's decision to crack down hard on the socialists and labour unions when they protested and striked America's entry to the First World War would backfire horribly, as the American Left was much more unified and coordinated than in OTL. Rather than being fragmented and hammered down, they rose up and launched the Second American Revolution.
** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all African-American servicemen from the US military during the Second American Revolution (Following (following an incident involving an African-American sailor and Klansmen) triggered the Great Mutiny which saw more ''more than half ''the of the entire Atlantic Fleet'' defecting to the Reds.



* TheKlan: The KKK is (re)formed as IOTL, but becomes prominent much earlier when the Wilson Administration turn to them for recruitment, internal security and other roles and purposes following the outbreak of the Second American Revolution, a decision which would ultimately backfire on the Whites faction in more ways than one.

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* TheKlan: The KKK is (re)formed as IOTL, but becomes prominent much earlier when the Wilson Administration turn turns to them for recruitment, internal security and other roles and purposes following the outbreak of the Second American Revolution, a decision which would ultimately backfire on the Whites faction in more ways than one.



** Creator/NewtGingrich never goes into politics and is instead a highly successful author of AlternateHistory.

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** Creator/NewtGingrich never goes into politics and is instead a highly successful remains an author of AlternateHistory.AlternateHistory, becoming highly successful.
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* AttackOnOneIsAnAttackOnAll: The Great Mutiny of the Atlantic Fleet during the Second American Revolution was caused by their collective outrage over the Wilson Administration's disproportionate (and undoubtedly racist) decision to remove all African-American sailors from service following an incident involving one sailor and Klansmen. Many ships and their sailors and even commanders would rather defect to the Reds than throw their fellow African-American sailors overboard.

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* AttackOnOneIsAnAttackOnAll: The Great Mutiny of the Atlantic Fleet during the Second American Revolution was caused by their collective outrage over the Wilson Administration's disproportionate (and undoubtedly racist) decision to remove all African-American sailors men from military service following an incident involving one a black sailor and Klansmen. Many ships and their sailors and even commanders would rather defect to the Reds than throw their fellow African-American sailors overboard.



** An incident between an African-American sailor and Ku Klux Klansmen during the Second American CivilWar caused the Wilson Administration to remove all African-Americans servicemen from the US Navy effective immediately. This backfired HORRIBLY for the White faction as it led to the Great Mutiny, with much of the Atlantic Fleet defecting to the Reds.

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** An incident between an African-American sailor and Ku Klux Klansmen during the Second American CivilWar caused the Wilson Administration to remove all African-Americans servicemen from the US Navy military effective immediately. This backfired HORRIBLY for the White faction as it led to the Great Mutiny, with causing much of the Atlantic Fleet defecting to defect to the Reds.



** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all African-American servicemen from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution (Following an incident involving an African-American sailor and Klansmen) triggered a chain of events that led to almost ''the entire Atlantic Fleet'' defecting to the Reds.

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** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all African-American servicemen from service of the Navy US military during the Second American Revolution (Following an incident involving an African-American sailor and Klansmen) triggered a chain of events that led to almost the Great Mutiny which saw more than half ''the entire Atlantic Fleet'' defecting to the Reds.
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** The Wilson Administration's decision to discharge all African Americans from all United States Armed Forces during the Second American Revolution was meant to secure their armed forces from a supposed pro-socialist fifth column they poised. Not only did it have a negligible effect for the army (as they were already not trusted in command), but it triggered the Great Mutiny in the United States Navy which costed them the Atlantic Fleet, since the ships and their sailors would rather defect to the Reds then turn own their fellow sailors, especially knowing that this would put them at the mercy of the Klansmen whom Wilson had allied to fight the Reds with.

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* AttackOnOneIsAnAttackOnAll: The Great Mutiny of the Atlantic Fleet during the Second American Revolution was caused by their collective outrage over the Wilson Administration's disproportionate (and undoubtedly racist) decision to remove all African-American sailors from service following an incident involving one sailor and Klansmen. Many ships and their sailors and even commanders would rather defect to the Reds than throw their fellow African-American sailors overboard.



* DisproportionateRetribution: Senator Robert [=LaFollete=] ended up being executed by the Whites faction for being associated with the Chandler Scheme (a desperate plan for a settled peace with the Reds by Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler which involve the moderate socialist [=LaFollete=] become vice-president and then replacing Woodrow Wilson upon his resignation and impeachment), despite the fact that [=LaFollete=] didn't even know Chandler had such a scheme, let alone being a willing participant for it.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: DisproportionateRetribution:
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Senator Robert [=LaFollete=] ended up being executed by the Whites faction for being associated with the Chandler Scheme (a desperate plan for a settled peace with the Reds by Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler which involve the moderate socialist [=LaFollete=] become vice-president and then replacing Woodrow Wilson upon his resignation and impeachment), despite the fact that [=LaFollete=] didn't even know Chandler had such a scheme, let alone being a willing participant for it.
** An incident between an African-American sailor and Ku Klux Klansmen during the Second American CivilWar caused the Wilson Administration to remove all African-Americans servicemen from the US Navy effective immediately. This backfired HORRIBLY for the White faction as it led to the Great Mutiny, with much of the Atlantic Fleet defecting to the Reds.



** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all African-American servicemen from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution (over a confrontation involving a African-American sailor and Klansmen) triggered a chain of events that led to almost the ''entire Atlantic Fleet'' to defect to the Reds.

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** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all African-American servicemen from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution (over a confrontation (Following an incident involving a an African-American sailor and Klansmen) triggered a chain of events that led to almost the ''entire ''the entire Atlantic Fleet'' to defect defecting to the Reds.



* TheMutiny: The Great Mutiny during the Second American Revolution saw more than half the US Atlantic Fleet defecting to the Reds.



* StrikeEpisode: Several. So far, they're largely OTL strikes, but with generally better outcomes.
** The Great Longshoremen's Strike, on the other hand, leads to the outbreak of the Second American Revolution.

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* StrikeEpisode: Several. So far, they're largely OTL strikes, but with generally better outcomes.
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** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all black sailors from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution (over a confrontation involving a Black sailor and Klansmen) triggered a chain of events that led to almost the ''entire Atlantic Fleet'' to defect to the Reds.

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** The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate decision to remove all black sailors African-American servicemen from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution (over a confrontation involving a Black African-American sailor and Klansmen) triggered a chain of events that led to almost the ''entire Atlantic Fleet'' to defect to the Reds.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: Senator Robert LaFollete ended up being executed by the Whites faction for being associated with the Chandler Scheme (a desperate plan for a settled peace with the Reds by Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler which involve the moderate socialist LaFollete become vice-president and then replacing Woodrow Wilson upon his resignation and impeachment), despite the fact that LaFollete didn't even know Chandler had such a scheme, let alone being a willing participant for it.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: Senator Robert LaFollete [=LaFollete=] ended up being executed by the Whites faction for being associated with the Chandler Scheme (a desperate plan for a settled peace with the Reds by Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler which involve the moderate socialist LaFollete [=LaFollete=] become vice-president and then replacing Woodrow Wilson upon his resignation and impeachment), despite the fact that LaFollete [=LaFollete=] didn't even know Chandler had such a scheme, let alone being a willing participant for it.



* HoistByHisOwnPetard: The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate policy to remove all black sailors from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution over a confrontation involving a Black sailor and Klansmen triggered a chain of events that led to almost the ''entire Atlantic Fleet'' to defect to the Reds.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: HoistByHisOwnPetard:
** The Wilson Administration's decision to crack down hard on the socialists and labour unions when they protested and striked America's entry to the First World War would backfire horribly, as the American Left was much more unified and coordinated than in OTL. Rather than being fragmented and hammered down, they rose up and launched the Second American Revolution.
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The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate policy decision to remove all black sailors from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution over (over a confrontation involving a Black sailor and Klansmen Klansmen) triggered a chain of events that led to almost the ''entire Atlantic Fleet'' to defect to the Reds.



* TheKlan: The KKK is (re)formed as IOTL, but becomes prominent much earlier.

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* TheKlan: The KKK is (re)formed as IOTL, but becomes prominent much earlier.earlier when the Wilson Administration turn to them for recruitment, internal security and other roles and purposes following the outbreak of the Second American Revolution, a decision which would ultimately backfire on the Whites faction in more ways than one.
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* DisproportionateRetribution: Senator Robert LaFollete ended up being executed by the Whites faction for being associated with the Chandler Scheme (a desperate plan for a settled peace with the Reds by Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler which involve the moderate socialist LaFollete become vice-president and then replacing Woodrow Wilson upon his resignation and impeachment), despite the fact that LaFollete didn't even know Chandler had such a scheme, let alone being a willing participant for it.


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* HopeSpot:
** Theodore Roosevelt's presidential election in 1912 could potentially allow for progressive and labour reforms in America which could avert a potential socialist revolution. Unfortunately unlike in OTL, his assassin managed to kill him.
** During the Second American Revolution, Republican Congressman Walter M. Chandler devised a 'Hail Mary' plan which may allow for a peaceful settlement with the Reds and end the CivilWar with the United States of America intact and no further bloodshed. Unfortunately he and his fellow conspirators were caught by J. Edgar Hoover and the Bureau of Investigation’s General Intelligence Division before they could contact the Reds with it, ending even the slimmest possibility of peace.


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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: The Wilson Administration's racist and disproportionate policy to remove all black sailors from service of the Navy during the Second American Revolution over a confrontation involving a Black sailor and Klansmen triggered a chain of events that led to almost the ''entire Atlantic Fleet'' to defect to the Reds.
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** Creator/NewtGingrich never goes into politics and is instead a highly successful author of AlternateHistory.
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* HeelFaceTurn: The Great Mutiny, which sees most of the Atlantic Fleet switch sides.


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* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: The Great Mutiny is triggered by an order banning blacks from serving in the US military.
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* VillainousValor: When Governor Albert Sleeper concludes that he cannot hold Michigan against the revolutionaries, he orders the Michigan National Guard to retreat to Indiana but stays behind in Lansing, hoping that the Reds will prioritize his own capture over cutting off the National Guard's retreat.
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'''''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-labors-star-ascendant.525137/ The Fire Never Dies]]''''' is an AlternateHistory timeline on Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom by Troper/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended.

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'''''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-labors-star-ascendant.525137/ The Fire Never Dies]]''''' is an AlternateHistory timeline on Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom by Troper/{{Meshakhad}}, Tropers/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended.

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* CapitalismIsBad: The story is definitely pro-socialism.



** Subverted by the resumption of unrestricted submarine warfare, which was meant to stem the tide of American arms being exported to the Entente. The sinking of the cargo ship ''Arabia'' at first seemed like a case of GoneHorriblyWrong, as it triggers the US entering the war, but that in turn sparks the Second American Revolution, bringing a complete halt to American arms exports.



* ThePurge:
** Following the passing of the Anti-Socialist Act, the KKK begins arresting (or just murdering) anyone they think is a threat to their vision of America.
** A (somewhat) heroic example: Governor Bill Haywood purges the Washington National Guard of White supporters at the start of the war.



** Creator/TomClancy, Condoleeza Rice, Creator/AaronSorkin, and Matt Ward are the authors of some of the in-universe historical texts.

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** Creator/TomClancy, Condoleeza Rice, Creator/AaronSorkin, and [[Creator/GamesWorkshop Matt Ward Ward]] are the authors of some of the in-universe historical texts.texts.
** UsefulNotes/HueyLong is arrested at the start of the Second American Revolution in 1917 as a suspected socialist sympathizer (on account of him being [[TruthInTelevision an attorney who specializes in worker's compensation cases]]). He and his fellow detainees are soon broken out of jail and join a Red partisan group.
** Many notable labor activists, such as Bill "Big Bill" Haywood, Vincent St. John, and William Trautmann, successfully run for political office. Others (also including Haywood) become military commanders in the Second American Revolution.



* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Averted. Unlike our timeline, the American socialist movement remains unified behind the IWW and the Socialist Labor Party.

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** The Great Longshoremen's Strike, on the other hand, leads to the outbreak of the Second American Revolution.
* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Averted. Unlike our timeline, the American socialist movement remains unified behind the IWW and the Socialist Labor Party.Party.
* WorkingClassHero: The Red Army is made of these. Most of their generals are not veteran soldiers, but experienced organizers.
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Likely to be the case for Woodrow Wilson, as he will be the last American President and the antagonist of the revolution.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Likely to be the case for Woodrow Wilson, as he will be who responds to the last American President and the antagonist of the revolution.civil unrest with increasingly harsh measures.



** Leon Trotsky (known ITTL by his birth name of Leon Bronstein) moves to the United States and joins the IWW, becoming the leader of the New York Committee of Public Safety [[spoiler:and eventually a general in the American Red Army]].

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** Leon Trotsky (known ITTL by his birth name of Leon Bronstein) moves to the United States and joins the IWW, becoming the leader of the New York Committee of Public Safety [[spoiler:and and eventually a general in the American Red Army]].Army.



* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Imminent. It's referred to as the Revolution, but we also know it will take years to resolve.

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* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Imminent. It's referred to as the Revolution, but we also know it will take years to resolve.The Second American Revolution.

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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Leon Trotsky (known ITTL by his birth name of Leon Bronstein) moves to the United States and joins the IWW, becoming the leader of the New York Committee of Public Safety [[spoiler:and eventually a general in the American Red Army]].

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** Creator/TomClancy, Condoleeza Rice, Creator/AaronSorkin, and Matt Ward are the authors of some of the in-universe historical texts.
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* CallARabbitASmeerp: A downplayed version: the common term for far-right authoritarian ideologies in this timeline is not fascism, but [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falangism falangism]].


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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Germany abandons the scheme that led to the OTL Zimmerman Telegram, instead scheming to bring about a Carlist coup in Spain and bring them into the war on the side of the Central Powers. The plot is exposed, the Carlists are purged, and Spain instead joins the Entente.


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* TheKlan: The KKK is (re)formed as IOTL, but becomes prominent much earlier.
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'''''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-labors-star-ascendant.525137/ The Fire Never Dies''''' is an AlternateHistory timeline on [[Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom AlternateHistory.com]] by Troper/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended.

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'''''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-labors-star-ascendant.525137/ The Fire Never Dies''''' Dies]]''''' is an AlternateHistory timeline on [[Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom AlternateHistory.com]] Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom by Troper/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended.

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''The Fire Never Dies'' is an AlternateHistory timeline on [[Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom AlternateHistory.com]] by Troper/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended.

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''The '''''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-labors-star-ascendant.525137/ The Fire Never Dies'' Dies''''' is an AlternateHistory timeline on [[Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom AlternateHistory.com]] by Troper/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended.



* ForWantOfANail: The point of divergence is that former Idaho governor Frank Steunenberg is not assassinated by Harry Orchard, as the latter blows himself up while preparing the bomb.

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The point of divergence is that former Idaho governor Frank Steunenberg is not assassinated by Harry Orchard, as the latter blows himself up while preparing the bomb.



* ForegoneConclusion: Several excerpts and WordOfGod make it clear that there will be a successful socialist revolution in the late 1910s.

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* ForegoneConclusion: Several excerpts and WordOfGod [[invoked]]WordOfGod make it clear that there will be a successful socialist revolution in the late 1910s.



* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman:
** Leon Trotsky (known ITTL by his birth name of Leon Bronstein) moves to the United States and joins the IWW, becoming the leader of the New York Committee of Public Safety [[spoiler:and eventually a general in the American Red Army]].

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''The Fire Never Dies'' is an AlternateHistory timeline on [[Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom AlternateHistory.com]] by Troper/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended.

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!!This work provides examples of:
* AlternateHistoryWank: For the Industrial Workers of the World.
* ChummyCommies: We haven't yet seen exactly what the future socialist America will look like, but it definitely won't be an authoritarian Soviet-style regime. That said, they aren't averse to getting their hands dirty.
* ForWantOfANail: The point of divergence is that former Idaho governor Frank Steunenberg is not assassinated by Harry Orchard, as the latter blows himself up while preparing the bomb.
** Theodore Roosevelt [[spoiler:does not survive his assassination attempt, simply because the bullet strikes him on the other side of his chest]].
* ForegoneConclusion: Several excerpts and WordOfGod make it clear that there will be a successful socialist revolution in the late 1910s.
* FramingDevice: Most chapters consist of excerpts from in-universe historical texts, with one (so far) post from the alternate AH.com.
* GoodIsNotSoft: The Committees of Public Safety exist to promote safe working conditions. Their preferred tactic is to intimidate bosses and managers into adopting safer practices.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Likely to be the case for Woodrow Wilson, as he will be the last American President and the antagonist of the revolution.
* InSpiteOfANail: The death of [[spoiler:Theodore Roosevelt]] less than a month before the 1912 election doesn't change the outcome. Wilson still wins, albeit not in the landslide he had IOTL, while Debs and the SLP win several states.
* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman:
** Leon Trotsky (known ITTL by his birth name of Leon Bronstein) moves to the United States and joins the IWW, becoming the leader of the New York Committee of Public Safety [[spoiler:and eventually a general in the American Red Army]].
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Imminent. It's referred to as the Revolution, but we also know it will take years to resolve.
* StrikeEpisode: Several. So far, they're largely OTL strikes, but with generally better outcomes.
* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Averted. Unlike our timeline, the American socialist movement remains unified behind the IWW and the Socialist Labor Party.

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