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* AlwaysIdenticalTwins : Maela and Rachel
* ArcWords : Liam's visions cause there to be a few. Pauwel is 'a river an army cannot cross'.
* BadassFamily : The Dragon Queen was a badass in her own right, and choose her husbands to be badasses as well. All of her sons are extremely formidable, though some in unexpected ways.
* BatmanGambit : Lammert is very good at ensuring things go according to his plan
* BigBrotherMentor : Rien notes that Jurgen was his father figure, and clearly holds the man in high regard. Jurgen is also the one who taught Lammert to fight. It's also clear Lammert was one to Rien as well, though more of a TricksterMentor as Rien doesn't seem to realize just how much Lammert influenced him.
* BewareTheSillyOnes : Rien is a fairly jovial individual. He's also a OneManArmy. He gets it from his father and older brother.
* TheBigGuy : All of the Draaks, including Thirza, stand over six feet in height.
* BornUnderTheSail : The Ilael are a seagoing culture, sometimes even raising their children on the ships. They also serve as a ProudMerchantRace
* ChekhovsGun : Due to Liam's power, there are a lot of these. A couple are inadvertent. Liam plays a prank on Jurgen, using his power to make Jurgen believe Liam can fight while blind. Jurgen then spends the next twenty years developing a technique for blindfighting, since he now believes it possible. He teaches it to Rien, who uses it to fight trolls when recovering the dragon sword.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of cultural gulfs between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees. Wilders are considered adults at a mere 12, and have a much more egalitarian view of women and laid back attitude toward sex.
* DeusExMachina : Some of the events in the story appear to come out of nowhere, ensuring the characters have exactly what they need to escape a hopeless situation. [[spoiler: Since Lammert can see the future, he simply set things up ahead of time and waited]]
* DumbBlonde : Averted. Both of the twins are intelligent and well-educated
* EasilyForgiven : The other characters are pragmatic enough to work with Rien, though there are still definitely some grudges over his past behavior.
* EveryoneIsBi : At least in the Wildlands. The Wilders apparently have no stigma toward bisexuality or extramarital relations, and their culture doesn't seem to include the concept of bastard children.
* TheEvilPrince : Rutger and Phillip
* FamilyMan : The male main characters of Stone and Fire are all loving and dedicated fathers
* GuysSmashGirlsShoot : Played straight with the four main characters of Dragonlord. Maela can use a sword for dueling purposes, but neither she or Rachel are combat trained while both the male characters have trained for battle their entire lives. Several other female characters avert this, such as Diantha.
* GoGoEnslavement : Rien has Maela dress Bastien so Rien can better ogle him.
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachel are thrilled at finding themselves with Master Rien. Bastien not so much.
* HappilyAdopted : Liam is far happier with his adopted family than he ever was with his birth family
* HonorBeforeReason : Bastien's life would be a lot easier if he had just slit Rien's throat the first time he had the opportunity, but he keeps his oath of fealty anyway.
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long being completely oblivious to what was going on around him. [[spoiler: In his defense, it later becomes clear that Liam actively took steps to keep Rien from realizing part of what was going on in an effort to protect his youngest brother.]]
* IGaveMyWord : If Bastien gives his word, he will keep it. Interestingly enough, Rien seems to share this trait, and Bastien notes that the fact Rien does trust him is a good indication that Rien himself can be trusted.
* KingmakerScenario : [[spoiler: Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rien means that whoever 'wields' him is the ruler of the Wildlands.]]
* ArcWords : Liam's visions cause there to be a few. Pauwel is 'a river an army cannot cross'.
* BadassFamily : The Dragon Queen was a badass in her own right, and choose her husbands to be badasses as well. All of her sons are extremely formidable, though some in unexpected ways.
* BatmanGambit : Lammert is very good at ensuring things go according to his plan
* BigBrotherMentor : Rien notes that Jurgen was his father figure, and clearly holds the man in high regard. Jurgen is also the one who taught Lammert to fight. It's also clear Lammert was one to Rien as well, though more of a TricksterMentor as Rien doesn't seem to realize just how much Lammert influenced him.
* BewareTheSillyOnes : Rien is a fairly jovial individual. He's also a OneManArmy. He gets it from his father and older brother.
* TheBigGuy : All of the Draaks, including Thirza, stand over six feet in height.
* BornUnderTheSail : The Ilael are a seagoing culture, sometimes even raising their children on the ships. They also serve as a ProudMerchantRace
* ChekhovsGun : Due to Liam's power, there are a lot of these. A couple are inadvertent. Liam plays a prank on Jurgen, using his power to make Jurgen believe Liam can fight while blind. Jurgen then spends the next twenty years developing a technique for blindfighting, since he now believes it possible. He teaches it to Rien, who uses it to fight trolls when recovering the dragon sword.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of cultural gulfs between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees. Wilders are considered adults at a mere 12, and have a much more egalitarian view of women and laid back attitude toward sex.
* DeusExMachina : Some of the events in the story appear to come out of nowhere, ensuring the characters have exactly what they need to escape a hopeless situation. [[spoiler: Since Lammert can see the future, he simply set things up ahead of time and waited]]
* DumbBlonde : Averted. Both of the twins are intelligent and well-educated
* EasilyForgiven : The other characters are pragmatic enough to work with Rien, though there are still definitely some grudges over his past behavior.
* EveryoneIsBi : At least in the Wildlands. The Wilders apparently have no stigma toward bisexuality or extramarital relations, and their culture doesn't seem to include the concept of bastard children.
* TheEvilPrince : Rutger and Phillip
* FamilyMan : The male main characters of Stone and Fire are all loving and dedicated fathers
* GuysSmashGirlsShoot : Played straight with the four main characters of Dragonlord. Maela can use a sword for dueling purposes, but neither she or Rachel are combat trained while both the male characters have trained for battle their entire lives. Several other female characters avert this, such as Diantha.
* GoGoEnslavement : Rien has Maela dress Bastien so Rien can better ogle him.
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachel are thrilled at finding themselves with Master Rien. Bastien not so much.
* HappilyAdopted : Liam is far happier with his adopted family than he ever was with his birth family
* HonorBeforeReason : Bastien's life would be a lot easier if he had just slit Rien's throat the first time he had the opportunity, but he keeps his oath of fealty anyway.
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long being completely oblivious to what was going on around him. [[spoiler: In his defense, it later becomes clear that Liam actively took steps to keep Rien from realizing part of what was going on in an effort to protect his youngest brother.]]
* IGaveMyWord : If Bastien gives his word, he will keep it. Interestingly enough, Rien seems to share this trait, and Bastien notes that the fact Rien does trust him is a good indication that Rien himself can be trusted.
* KingmakerScenario : [[spoiler: Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rien means that whoever 'wields' him is the ruler of the Wildlands.]]
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* LovableSexManiac : Both played straight and averted with Rien. He's very focused on his physical pleasure and does make sure his partner gets off as well, but [[spoiler: Bastien calls him on the fact that Rien is technically raping him]]
* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal : The mistreatment results from a misunderstanding, but in Stone and Fire you can almost pinpoint the exact second Rutger became willing to kill his older brothers. [[spoiler: Liam promised he'd never share Rutger's secret, but unfortunately, Jurgen figured out part of it on his own due to knowing of Liam's ability, and unknowingly let that slip during a conversation.]]
* MyMasterRightOrWrong : Despite being clearly unhappy with the situation and arguing with Rien often, if Rien gives Bastien an order, Bastien will follow it.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast : The Stone and River Dragons.
* ObfuscatingStupidity : It's hard to tell when Rien is indulging in this and when he really is that stupid.
* OldFriend : Everyone is concerned about what will happen when Rien meets the king of Solsthriem. [[spoiler: Turns out Wendel and Liam have apparently been friends for years and adventured together.]]
* OldSchoolChivalry : Bastien and Aurel are strong believers in the code of knighthood, though Rien's behavior tends to cause Bastien to have to set it aside.
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert knows everything. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirza definitely plays favorites. Jurgen is her firstborn and gets some privilege from that, but it's clear Rutger is MommasBoy. That may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
* {{Polyamory}} : Open relationships seem to be normal in the Wildlands, with bed slaves being common. One of the things that proves Liam is culturally Ilael rather than Wilder is that he is strictly monogamous.
* PrincelingRivalry : A major factor in both stories.
* PropheticNames : Though Rien wasn't 'the River Dragon', he was 'the River's Dragon', with 'the River' being a reference to Pauwel.
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy : Played with. The Wilders have BloodKnight tendencies, but they aren't disciplined or cooperative enough to actually pose much of a threat. The one time they were, they took over the world.
* RedBaron : The Stone and River Dragons, as well as the Phoenix, are known only by their nicknames in various places.
* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal : The mistreatment results from a misunderstanding, but in Stone and Fire you can almost pinpoint the exact second Rutger became willing to kill his older brothers. [[spoiler: Liam promised he'd never share Rutger's secret, but unfortunately, Jurgen figured out part of it on his own due to knowing of Liam's ability, and unknowingly let that slip during a conversation.]]
* MyMasterRightOrWrong : Despite being clearly unhappy with the situation and arguing with Rien often, if Rien gives Bastien an order, Bastien will follow it.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast : The Stone and River Dragons.
* ObfuscatingStupidity : It's hard to tell when Rien is indulging in this and when he really is that stupid.
* OldFriend : Everyone is concerned about what will happen when Rien meets the king of Solsthriem. [[spoiler: Turns out Wendel and Liam have apparently been friends for years and adventured together.]]
* OldSchoolChivalry : Bastien and Aurel are strong believers in the code of knighthood, though Rien's behavior tends to cause Bastien to have to set it aside.
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert knows everything. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirza definitely plays favorites. Jurgen is her firstborn and gets some privilege from that, but it's clear Rutger is MommasBoy. That may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
* {{Polyamory}} : Open relationships seem to be normal in the Wildlands, with bed slaves being common. One of the things that proves Liam is culturally Ilael rather than Wilder is that he is strictly monogamous.
* PrincelingRivalry : A major factor in both stories.
* PropheticNames : Though Rien wasn't 'the River Dragon', he was 'the River's Dragon', with 'the River' being a reference to Pauwel.
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy : Played with. The Wilders have BloodKnight tendencies, but they aren't disciplined or cooperative enough to actually pose much of a threat. The one time they were, they took over the world.
* RedBaron : The Stone and River Dragons, as well as the Phoenix, are known only by their nicknames in various places.
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* LovableSexManiac : LovableSexManiac: Both played straight and averted with Rien. He's very focused on his physical pleasure and does make sure his partner gets off as well, but [[spoiler: Bastien calls him on the fact that Rien is technically raping him]]
*MistreatmentInducedBetrayal : MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: The mistreatment results from a misunderstanding, but in Stone and Fire you can almost pinpoint the exact second Rutger became willing to kill his older brothers. [[spoiler: Liam promised he'd never share Rutger's secret, but unfortunately, Jurgen figured out part of it on his own due to knowing of Liam's ability, and unknowingly let that slip during a conversation.]]
*MyMasterRightOrWrong : MyMasterRightOrWrong: Despite being clearly unhappy with the situation and arguing with Rien often, if Rien gives Bastien an order, Bastien will follow it.
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*ObfuscatingStupidity : ObfuscatingStupidity: It's hard to tell when Rien is indulging in this and when he really is that stupid.
*OldFriend : OldFriend: Everyone is concerned about what will happen when Rien meets the king of Solsthriem. [[spoiler: Turns out Wendel and Liam have apparently been friends for years and adventured together.]]
*OldSchoolChivalry : OldSchoolChivalry: Bastien and Aurel are strong believers in the code of knighthood, though Rien's behavior tends to cause Bastien to have to set it aside.
*OmniscientHero : OmniscientHero: Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert knows everything. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
*ParentalFavoritism : ParentalFavoritism: Thirza definitely plays favorites. Jurgen is her firstborn and gets some privilege from that, but it's clear Rutger is MommasBoy. That may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
*{{Polyamory}} : {{Polyamory}}: Open relationships seem to be normal in the Wildlands, with bed slaves being common. One of the things that proves Liam is culturally Ilael rather than Wilder is that he is strictly monogamous.
*PrincelingRivalry : PrincelingRivalry: A major factor in both stories.
*PropheticNames : PropheticNames: Though Rien wasn't 'the River Dragon', he was 'the River's Dragon', with 'the River' being a reference to Pauwel.
*ProudWarriorRaceGuy : ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Played with. The Wilders have BloodKnight tendencies, but they aren't disciplined or cooperative enough to actually pose much of a threat. The one time they were, they took over the world.
*RedBaron : RedBaron: The Stone and River Dragons, as well as the Phoenix, are known only by their nicknames in various places.
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* SecretIdentity : Lammert vs Liam
* SixthRanger : Lammert organizes the escape from Darodelf
* SirSwearsalot : Rien really brings this trait out in Bastien
* SixthRanger : Lammert organizes the escape from Darodelf
* SirSwearsalot : Rien really brings this trait out in Bastien
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* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien start as enemies, have some RivalsTeamUp moments, move through FireForgedFriends, and seem to have settled on this. Bastien and Maela also engage in the occasional insult slinging contest, though this appears to be more affectionate than vitriolic.
* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild and attack those that have not taken up arms.
* ZeroApprovalGambit : Liam deliberately distances himself from Rien, causing Rien to end up actively disliking him for most of Dragonlord. [[spoiler: This was to avoid giving Rutger any sort of reason to deliberately target Rien when Rutger started moving against his elder brothers]]
* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild and attack those that have not taken up arms.
* ZeroApprovalGambit : Liam deliberately distances himself from Rien, causing Rien to end up actively disliking him for most of Dragonlord. [[spoiler: This was to avoid giving Rutger any sort of reason to deliberately target Rien when Rutger started moving against his elder brothers]]
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* VitriolicBestBuds : VitriolicBestBuds: Rien and Bastien start as enemies, have some RivalsTeamUp moments, move through FireForgedFriends, and seem to have settled on this. Bastien and Maela also engage in the occasional insult slinging contest, though this appears to be more affectionate than vitriolic.
*WouldNotShootACivilian : WouldNotShootACivilian: For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild and attack those that have not taken up arms.
*ZeroApprovalGambit : ZeroApprovalGambit: Liam deliberately distances himself from Rien, causing Rien to end up actively disliking him for most of Dragonlord. [[spoiler: This was to avoid [[spoiler:avoid giving Rutger any sort of reason to deliberately target Rien when Rutger started moving against his elder brothers]]brothers]].
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* ChekovsGun : Due to Liam's power, there are a lot of these. A couple are inadvertent. Liam plays a prank on Jurgen, using his power to make Jurgen believe Liam can fight while blind. Jurgen then spends the next twenty years developing a technique for blindfighting, since he now believes it possible. He teaches it to Rien, who uses it to fight trolls when recovering the dragon sword.
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* ChekovsGun ChekhovsGun : Due to Liam's power, there are a lot of these. A couple are inadvertent. Liam plays a prank on Jurgen, using his power to make Jurgen believe Liam can fight while blind. Jurgen then spends the next twenty years developing a technique for blindfighting, since he now believes it possible. He teaches it to Rien, who uses it to fight trolls when recovering the dragon sword.
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* BewareTheSillyOnes : Rien is a fairly jovial individual. He's also a OneManArmy
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* BewareTheSillyOnes : Rien is a fairly jovial individual. He's also a OneManArmyOneManArmy. He gets it from his father and older brother.
* ChekovsGun : Due to Liam's power, there are a lot of these. A couple are inadvertent. Liam plays a prank on Jurgen, using his power to make Jurgen believe Liam can fight while blind. Jurgen then spends the next twenty years developing a technique for blindfighting, since he now believes it possible. He teaches it to Rien, who uses it to fight trolls when recovering the dragon sword.
* {{Polyamory}} : Open relationships seem to be normal in the Wildlands, with bed slaves being common. One of the things that proves Liam is culturally Ilael rather than Wilder is that he is strictly monogamous.
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* ZeroApprovalGambit : Liam deliberately distances himself from Rien, causing Rien to end up actively disliking him for most of DragonLord. [[spoiler: This was to avoid giving Rutger any sort of reason to deliberately target Rien when Rutger started moving against his elder brothers]]
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* ZeroApprovalGambit : Liam deliberately distances himself from Rien, causing Rien to end up actively disliking him for most of DragonLord.Dragonlord. [[spoiler: This was to avoid giving Rutger any sort of reason to deliberately target Rien when Rutger started moving against his elder brothers]]
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* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long being completely oblivious to what was going on around him
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* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long being completely oblivious to what was going on around himhim. [[spoiler: In his defense, it later becomes clear that Liam actively took steps to keep Rien from realizing part of what was going on in an effort to protect his youngest brother.]]
* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal : The mistreatment results from a misunderstanding, but in Stone and Fire you can almost pinpoint the exact second Rutger became willing to kill his older brothers. [[spoiler: Liam promised he'd never share Rutger's secret, but unfortunately, Jurgen figured out part of it on his own due to knowing of Liam's ability, and unknowingly let that slip during a conversation.]]
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* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild and attack those that have not taken up arms.
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* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild and attack those that have not taken up arms.arms.
* ZeroApprovalGambit : Liam deliberately distances himself from Rien, causing Rien to end up actively disliking him for most of DragonLord. [[spoiler: This was to avoid giving Rutger any sort of reason to deliberately target Rien when Rutger started moving against his elder brothers]]
* ZeroApprovalGambit : Liam deliberately distances himself from Rien, causing Rien to end up actively disliking him for most of DragonLord. [[spoiler: This was to avoid giving Rutger any sort of reason to deliberately target Rien when Rutger started moving against his elder brothers]]
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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Jurgen and Rien are both princes, as technically is Liam. Wendel also grabs as sword a few times. [[spoiler: And the reason Liam doesn't mind being stripped of all his Wildlands titles and lands? He's the king of the Ilael.]]
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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Jurgen and Rien are both princes, as technically is Liam. Lammert. Wendel also grabs as a sword a few times. when needed. [[spoiler: And the reason Liam doesn't mind being stripped of all his Wildlands titles and lands? lands? He's the king of the Ilael.]]
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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Jurgen and Rien are both princes, as technically is Liam. Wendel also grabs as sword a few times. [[spoiler: And the reason Liam doesn't mind being stripped of all his Wildlands titles and lands? He's the king of the Ilael.]]
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* ActionGirl: Though most of the action is done by the male main characters, there are quite a few women in the story that are handy on the battlefield. The Unitafels that try to attack the children of Thirza and Diantha learn the hard way why you shouldn't provoke MamaBear.
* FamilyMan : The male main characters of Stone and Fire are all loving and dedicated fathers
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* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild
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* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChildWouldHurtAChild and attack those that have not taken up arms.
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* BigBrotherMentor : Rien notes that Jurgen was his father figure, and clearly holds the man in high regard. Jurgen is also the one who taught Lammert to fight.
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* BigBrotherMentor : Rien notes that Jurgen was his father figure, and clearly holds the man in high regard. Jurgen is also the one who taught Lammert to fight. It's also clear Lammert was one to Rien as well, though more of a TricksterMentor as Rien doesn't seem to realize just how much Lammert influenced him.
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast : The Stone and River Dragons
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast : The Stone and River DragonsDragons.
* PrincelingRivalry : A major factor in both stories.
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy : Played with. The Wilders have BloodKnight tendencies, but they aren't disciplined or cooperative enough to actually pose much of a threat. The one time they were, they took over the world.
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* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien start as enemies, have some RivalsTeamUp moments, move through FireForgedFriends, and seem to have settled on this. Bastien and Maela also engage in the occasional insult slinging contest, though this appears to be more affectionate than vitriolic.
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* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien start as enemies, have some RivalsTeamUp moments, move through FireForgedFriends, and seem to have settled on this. Bastien and Maela also engage in the occasional insult slinging contest, though this appears to be more affectionate than vitriolic.vitriolic.
* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild
* WouldNotShootACivilian : For all their BloodKnight tendencies, the Wilders are openly appalled by the fact that the Unitafels WouldHurtAChild
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* ArcWords : Liam's visions cause there to be a few. Pauwel is 'a river an army cannot cross'.
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* OldFriend : Everyone is concerned about what will happen when Rien meets the king of Solsthriem. [[spoiler: Turns out Wendel and Lammert have apparently been friends for years and adventured together.]]
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* OldFriend : Everyone is concerned about what will happen when Rien meets the king of Solsthriem. [[spoiler: Turns out Wendel and Lammert Liam have apparently been friends for years and adventured together.]]
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* PropheticNames : Though Rien wasn't 'the River Dragon', he was 'the River's Dragon', with 'the River' being a reference to Pauwel.
* RedBaron : The Stone and River Dragons, as well as the Phoenix, are known only by their nicknames in various places.
* RedBaron : The Stone and River Dragons, as well as the Phoenix, are known only by their nicknames in various places.
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* BornUnderTheSail : The Ilael are a seagoing culture, sometimes even raising their children on the ships. They also serve as a ProudMerchantRace
* EveryoneIsBi : At least in the Wildlands. The Wilders apparently have no stigma toward bisexuality or extramarital relations, and their culture doesn't seem to include the concept of bastard children.
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* GuysSmashGirlsShoot
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* GuysSmashGirlsShootGuysSmashGirlsShoot : Played straight with the four main characters of Dragonlord. Maela can use a sword for dueling purposes, but neither she or Rachel are combat trained while both the male characters have trained for battle their entire lives. Several other female characters avert this, such as Diantha.
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* OldFriend : Everyone is concerned about what will happen when Rien meets the king of Solsthriem. [[spoiler: Turns out Wendel and Lammert have apparently been friends for years and adventured together.]]
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* BadassFamily : The Dragon Queen and her sons appear to be this
* BatmanGambit : Most of these are courtesy of Lammert
* BigBrotherMentor : Jurgen was this to Rien, though Lammert has taken over
* BatmanGambit : Most of these are courtesy of Lammert
* BigBrotherMentor : Jurgen was this to Rien, though Lammert has taken over
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* BadassFamily : The Dragon Queen was a badass in her own right, and choose her husbands to be badasses as well. All of her sons appear to be this
are extremely formidable, though some in unexpected ways.
* BatmanGambit :Most of these are courtesy of Lammert
Lammert is very good at ensuring things go according to his plan
* BigBrotherMentor : Rien notes that Jurgen wasthis to Rien, though his father figure, and clearly holds the man in high regard. Jurgen is also the one who taught Lammert has taken overto fight.
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* TheBigGuy : A family trait for the Draaks
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of this between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees. Wilders are considered adults at a mere 12, and have a much more egalitarian view of women and laid back attitude toward sex.
* DeusExMachina : Several events seem to be this, until Lammert's reveal.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of this between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees. Wilders are considered adults at a mere 12, and have a much more egalitarian view of women and laid back attitude toward sex.
* DeusExMachina : Several events seem to be this, until Lammert's reveal.
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* TheBigGuy : A family trait for All of the Draaks
Draaks, including Thirza, stand over six feet in height.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot ofthis cultural gulfs between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees. Wilders are considered adults at a mere 12, and have a much more egalitarian view of women and laid back attitude toward sex.
* DeusExMachina :Several Some of the events seem in the story appear to be this, until Lammert's reveal.come out of nowhere, ensuring the characters have exactly what they need to escape a hopeless situation. [[spoiler: Since Lammert can see the future, he simply set things up ahead of time and waited]]
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of
* DeusExMachina :
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* GoGoEnslavement : Rien pulls this on Bastien.
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachel appear to be this with Rien. Bastien is not.
* HonorBeforeReason : Bastien has this trait, which is the only reason Rien is still alive
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long juggling these
* IGaveMyWord : Bastien's defining characteristic. Interestingly enough, Rien seems to share it.
* KingmakerScenario : Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rien set up one of these
* TheLancer: Bastien is this to Rien. It's hinted Lammert used to be this to Jurgen.
* LovableSexManiac : Both played straight and averted with Rien. Bastien will call Rien on the fact that part of what Rien had done qualifies as rape
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachel appear to be this with Rien. Bastien is not.
* HonorBeforeReason : Bastien has this trait, which is the only reason Rien is still alive
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long juggling these
* IGaveMyWord : Bastien's defining characteristic. Interestingly enough, Rien seems to share it.
* KingmakerScenario : Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rien set up one of these
* TheLancer: Bastien is this to Rien. It's hinted Lammert used to be this to Jurgen.
* LovableSexManiac : Both played straight and averted with Rien. Bastien will call Rien on the fact that part of what Rien had done qualifies as rape
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* GoGoEnslavement : Rien pulls this on Bastien.
has Maela dress Bastien so Rien can better ogle him.
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachelappear to be this are thrilled at finding themselves with Rien. Master Rien. Bastien is not.
not so much.
* HonorBeforeReason :Bastien has this trait, which is Bastien's life would be a lot easier if he had just slit Rien's throat the only reason Rien is still alive
first time he had the opportunity, but he keeps his oath of fealty anyway.
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too longjuggling these
being completely oblivious to what was going on around him
* IGaveMyWord :Bastien's defining characteristic. If Bastien gives his word, he will keep it. Interestingly enough, Rien seems to share it.
this trait, and Bastien notes that the fact Rien does trust him is a good indication that Rien himself can be trusted.
* KingmakerScenario : [[spoiler: Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rienset up one means that whoever 'wields' him is the ruler of these
the Wildlands.]]
* TheLancer: Bastienis this serves as the second and foil to Rien. It's Rien, and its hinted Lammert used to be this to the same for Jurgen.
* LovableSexManiac : Both played straight and averted with Rien. He's very focused on his physical pleasure and does make sure his partner gets off as well, but [[spoiler: Bastienwill call Rien calls him on the fact that part of what Rien had done qualifies as rapeis technically raping him]]
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachel
* HonorBeforeReason :
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long
* IGaveMyWord :
* KingmakerScenario : [[spoiler: Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rien
* TheLancer: Bastien
* LovableSexManiac : Both played straight and averted with Rien. He's very focused on his physical pleasure and does make sure his partner gets off as well, but [[spoiler: Bastien
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* OldSchoolChivalry : Bastien and Aurel have traits of this, though Rien's behavior tends to cause Bastien to have to set it aside.
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert is this. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirza shows this to Rutger. It may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
* SixthRanger : Lammert is this during the escape from Darodelf
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert is this. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirza shows this to Rutger. It may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
* SixthRanger : Lammert is this during the escape from Darodelf
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* OldSchoolChivalry : Bastien and Aurel have traits are strong believers in the code of this, knighthood, though Rien's behavior tends to cause Bastien to have to set it aside.
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammertis this.knows everything. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirzashows this to Rutger. It definitely plays favorites. Jurgen is her firstborn and gets some privilege from that, but it's clear Rutger is MommasBoy. That may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
* SixthRanger : Lammertis this during organizes the escape from Darodelf
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirza
* SixthRanger : Lammert
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* UnderestimatingBadassery : Rutger seriously did this where Lammert is concerned
* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien border on this. Bastien and Maela also engage in the occasional insult slinging contest, though this appears to be more affectionate than vitriolic.
* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien border on this. Bastien and Maela also engage in the occasional insult slinging contest, though this appears to be more affectionate than vitriolic.
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* UnderestimatingBadassery : Rutger seriously did this where made a serious mistake when he decided he was going to take Lammert is concerned
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* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastienborder start as enemies, have some RivalsTeamUp moments, move through FireForgedFriends, and seem to have settled on this. this. Bastien and Maela also engage in the occasional insult slinging contest, though this appears to be more affectionate than vitriolic.
* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien
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In ''DragonLord'', Marinus Draak aka Rien aka The River Dragon takes Sir Bastien Kohler prisoner after raiding a castle. Bastien spends the next few chapters proving his own HeroicResolve before the situation changes and he agrees to swear fealty to Rien in exchange for Rien letting him save his people from an army of trolls.
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The main question of the story seems to be will Rien and Bastien manage to save the world before they kill each other.
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* BatmanGambit : Lammert is very good at these
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* BenevolentBoss : Rien tends to be one.
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* CanNotTellALie : Lammert. Manages to be a dishonest trickster despite this
* CombatPragmatist : Lammert doesn't seem to worry too much about fighting fair
* CrazyPrepared: Lammert [[spoiler: turns out there is a reason he is so good at this]]
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of this between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees.
* Determinator : Bastien does not surrender.
* CombatPragmatist : Lammert doesn't seem to worry too much about fighting fair
* CrazyPrepared: Lammert [[spoiler: turns out there is a reason he is so good at this]]
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of this between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees.
* Determinator : Bastien does not surrender.
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* CombatPragmatist : Lammert doesn't seem to worry too much about fighting fair
* CrazyPrepared: Lammert [[spoiler: turns out there is a reason he is so good at this]]
* Determinator : Bastien does not surrender.
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* KilledOffForReal : Jurgen was apparently this
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* KnightInShiningArmor : Bastien and his father
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* LordErrorProne : Rien. He's trying to get better.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero : Rien does this a few times
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* ThatManIsDead : Lammert claims this of his former identity
* TricksterMentor : Lammert could be considered one
* TricksterMentor : Lammert could be considered one
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* TheUnFavourite : Lammert is this to the Draaks.
* VitriolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien border on this
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* TheLancer: Bastien is this to Rien. It's hinted Lammert used to be this to Jurgen.
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* SirSwearsalot : Rien really brings this trait out in Bastien
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!!Provides Examples Of:
* AlwaysIdenticalTwins : Maela and Rachel
* BadassFamily : The Dragon Queen and her sons appear to be this
* BatmanGambit : Lammert is very good at these
* BigBrotherMentor : Jurgen was this to Rien, though Lammert has taken over
* BewareTheSillyOnes : Rien is a fairly jovial individual. He's also a OneManArmy
* BenevolentBoss : Rien tends to be one.
* TheBigGuy : A family trait for the Draaks
* CombatPragmatist : Lammert doesn't seem to worry too much about fighting fair
* CrazyPrepared: Lammert [[spoiler: turns out there is a reason he is so good at this]]
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of this between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees.
* [[Main/Determinator Determinator]] : Bastien does not surrender.
* DeusExMachina : Several events seem to be this, until Lammert's reveal.
* DistractedByTheSexy : Rien
* DumbBlonde : Averted. Both of the twins are intelligent and well-educated
* EasilyForgiven : Rien isn't quite this, but the other characters are pragmatists.
* TheEvilPrince : Rutger and Phillip
* GoGoEnslavement : Rien pulls this on Bastien.
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachel appear to be this with Rien. Bastien is not.
* HonorBeforeReason : Bastien has this trait, which is the only reason Rien is still alive
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long juggling these
* IGaveMyWord : Bastien's defining characteristic. Interestingly enough, Rien seems to share it.
* KilledOffForReal : Jurgen was apparently this
* KingmakerScenario : Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rien set up one of these
* KnightInShiningArmor : Bastien and his father
* LordErrorProne : Rien. He's trying to get better.
* LovableSexManiac : Both played straight and averted with Rien. Bastien will call Rien on the fact that part of what Rien had done qualifies as rape
* MyMasterRightOrWrong : Despite being clearly unhappy with the situation and arguing with Rien often, if Rien gives Bastien an order, Bastien will follow it.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast : The Stone and River Dragons
* NiceJobBreakingItHero : Rien does this a few times
* ObfuscatingStupidity : It's hard to tell when Rien is indulging in this and when he really is that stupid.
* OldSchoolChivalry : Bastien and Aurel have traits of this, though Rien's behavior tends to cause Bastien to have to set it aside.
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert is this. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirza shows this to Rutger. It may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
* SixthRanger : Lammert is this during the escape from Darodelf
* ThatManIsDead : Lammert claims this of his former identity
* TricksterMentor : Lammert could be considered one
* UnderestimatingBadassery : Rutger seriously did this where Lammert is concerned
* TheUnFavourite : Lammert is this to the Draaks.
* VitrolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien border on this
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!!Provides Examples Of:
* AlwaysIdenticalTwins : Maela and Rachel
* BadassFamily : The Dragon Queen and her sons appear to be this
* BatmanGambit : Lammert is very good at these
* BigBrotherMentor : Jurgen was this to Rien, though Lammert has taken over
* BewareTheSillyOnes : Rien is a fairly jovial individual. He's also a OneManArmy
* BenevolentBoss : Rien tends to be one.
* TheBigGuy : A family trait for the Draaks
* CombatPragmatist : Lammert doesn't seem to worry too much about fighting fair
* CrazyPrepared: Lammert [[spoiler: turns out there is a reason he is so good at this]]
* DeliberateValuesDissonance : There is a lot of this between the Wilders and the people of Solsthriem. Rien doesn't feel he was wrong to take Bastien as a slave. Bastien disagrees.
* [[Main/Determinator Determinator]] : Bastien does not surrender.
* DeusExMachina : Several events seem to be this, until Lammert's reveal.
* DistractedByTheSexy : Rien
* DumbBlonde : Averted. Both of the twins are intelligent and well-educated
* EasilyForgiven : Rien isn't quite this, but the other characters are pragmatists.
* TheEvilPrince : Rutger and Phillip
* GoGoEnslavement : Rien pulls this on Bastien.
* HappinessInSlavery : Maela and Rachel appear to be this with Rien. Bastien is not.
* HonorBeforeReason : Bastien has this trait, which is the only reason Rien is still alive
* IdiotBall : Most of Rien's character development comes from realizing he spent entirely too long juggling these
* IGaveMyWord : Bastien's defining characteristic. Interestingly enough, Rien seems to share it.
* KilledOffForReal : Jurgen was apparently this
* KingmakerScenario : Bastien killing the dragon instead of Rien set up one of these
* KnightInShiningArmor : Bastien and his father
* LordErrorProne : Rien. He's trying to get better.
* LovableSexManiac : Both played straight and averted with Rien. Bastien will call Rien on the fact that part of what Rien had done qualifies as rape
* MyMasterRightOrWrong : Despite being clearly unhappy with the situation and arguing with Rien often, if Rien gives Bastien an order, Bastien will follow it.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast : The Stone and River Dragons
* NiceJobBreakingItHero : Rien does this a few times
* ObfuscatingStupidity : It's hard to tell when Rien is indulging in this and when he really is that stupid.
* OldSchoolChivalry : Bastien and Aurel have traits of this, though Rien's behavior tends to cause Bastien to have to set it aside.
* OmniscientHero : Rien is starting to wonder if Lammert is this. Lammert maintains that he is NotSoOmniscientAfterAll
* ParentalFavoritism : Thirza shows this to Rutger. It may have been why Jurgen raised Rien
* SixthRanger : Lammert is this during the escape from Darodelf
* ThatManIsDead : Lammert claims this of his former identity
* TricksterMentor : Lammert could be considered one
* UnderestimatingBadassery : Rutger seriously did this where Lammert is concerned
* TheUnFavourite : Lammert is this to the Draaks.
* VitrolicBestBuds : Rien and Bastien border on this
