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* AncestorVeneration: Played with via the Pequeninos of Lusitania. The human xenobiologists THINK this is what the Piggies are doing when they talk about their fathers, even claiming to be able to talk to said fathers via the trees that bear their names. The reality is that the Fathertrees the sexually mature forms of the more mobile pequeninos and therefore are their fathers in a most literal sense. That a pequenino has to either do something exceptional for the tribe or be a certified badass to be allowed to take this form, rather than the sterile brothertrees, explains the veneration.

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* AncestorVeneration: Played with via the Pequeninos of Lusitania. The human xenobiologists THINK this is what the Piggies are doing when they talk about their fathers, even claiming to be able to talk to said fathers via the trees that bear their names. The reality is that the Fathertrees are the sexually mature forms of the more mobile pequeninos and therefore are their fathers in a most literal sense. That a pequenino has to either do something exceptional for the tribe or be a certified badass to be allowed to take this form, rather than the sterile brothertrees, explains the veneration.
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%% BabiesEverAfter: Subverted at the end: there's [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle still half a series to go]], plus Ender never actually ''has'' a child. Played straight otherwise.
* AncestorVeneration: Played with via the Pequeninos of Lusitania. The human xenobiologists THINK this is what the Piggies are doing when they talk about their fathers, even claiming to be able to talk to said fathers via the trees that bear their names. The reality is that the Fathertrees the sexually mature forms of the more mobile pequeninos and therefore are their fathers in a most literal sense. That a pequenino has to either do something exceptional for the tribe or be a certified badass to be allowed to take this form, rather than the sterile brothertrees, explains the generation.

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%% BabiesEverAfter: Subverted at the end: there's [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle still half a series to go]], plus Ender never actually ''has'' a child. Played straight otherwise.
* AncestorVeneration: Played with via the Pequeninos of Lusitania. The human xenobiologists THINK this is what the Piggies are doing when they talk about their fathers, even claiming to be able to talk to said fathers via the trees that bear their names. The reality is that the Fathertrees the sexually mature forms of the more mobile pequeninos and therefore are their fathers in a most literal sense. That a pequenino has to either do something exceptional for the tribe or be a certified badass to be allowed to take this form, rather than the sterile brothertrees, explains the generation.veneration.
* BabiesEverAfter: Subverted at the end: there's [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle still half a series to go]], plus Ender never actually ''has'' a child. Played straight otherwise.

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* BullyingADragon: As noted, some dumbass kids' reaction to being intimidated by Marcao's huge size was to bully him to the point where one of them got seriously hurt.



* DistantSequel: ''Speaker for the Dead'' is set about three thousand years after ''Ender's Game''. Ender is still alive after all this time (and not even particularly old) thanks to the time-dilation of many trips across the galaxy.
* DolledUpInstallment: Was intended to be a standalone novel but Card then decided to make the protagonist the same on from the ''Literature/EndersGame'' novella. He then rewrote ''Ender's Game'' as a full novel to explain how Ender came to another planet.

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* DistantSequel: ''Speaker for the Dead'' is set about three thousand years after ''Ender's Game''. Ender is still alive after all this time (and not even particularly old) thanks to the time-dilation time dilation of many trips across the galaxy.
* DolledUpInstallment: Was intended to be a standalone novel but Card then decided to make the protagonist the same on one from the ''Literature/EndersGame'' novella. He then rewrote ''Ender's Game'' as a full novel to explain how Ender came to another planet.



* GenreShift: ''Speaker for the Dead'' is an excellent book by any standards, and it's still science fiction, but it's very philosophical and revolves about stopping a war, not winning one.

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* GenreShift: ''Speaker for the Dead'' is an excellent book by any standards, and it's still science fiction, but it's very philosophical and revolves about around stopping a war, not winning one.



** Some of Novinha and Libo's decisions, and how the Xenologers act towards the pequenininos before Ender shows up.

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** Some of Novinha and Libo's decisions, and how the Xenologers act towards the pequenininos pequeninos before Ender shows up.
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* AncestorVeneration: Played with via the Pequeninos of Lusitania. The human xenobiologists THINK this is what the Piggies are doing when they talk about their fathers, even claiming to be able to talk to said fathers via the trees that bear their names. The reality is that the Fathertrees the sexually mature forms of the more mobile pequeninos and therefore are their fathers in a most literal sense. That a pequenino has to either do something exceptional for the tribe or be a certified badass to be allowed to take this form, rather than the sterile brothertrees, explains the generation.
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* DrivingQuestion: Why did the pequeninos kill Pipo?
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It does not take three-thousand years to travel to Lusitania. In that it took Ender to travel there, Novinha's children have grown into young adults.


* DistantSequel: ''Speaker for the Dead'' is set about three thousand years after ''Ender's Game'', as this is the amount of time needed to travel from Earth to the book's setting, the planet Lusitania, in a slower-than-light sleeper ship.

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* DistantSequel: ''Speaker for the Dead'' is set about three thousand years after ''Ender's Game'', as Game''. Ender is still alive after all this is the amount of time needed to travel from Earth (and not even particularly old) thanks to the book's setting, time-dilation of many trips across the planet Lusitania, in a slower-than-light sleeper ship.galaxy.
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** WordOfGod states that it took many rewrites to turn Novinha's children into anything but {{Flat Character}}s, so this might just be more of the same problem.
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler:Marcao's disease rendered him sterile. All of his children were fathered by Libo. He knew it, and had agreed to it, but he didn't actually like it.]]

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** WordOfGod states that it took many rewrites to turn Novinha's children into anything but {{Flat Character}}s, so this might just be more of the same problem.
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler:Marcao's disease rendered him sterile. All of his children were fathered by Libo. He knew it, and had agreed to it, but he didn't actually like it.]]
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* DolledUpInstallment: Was intended to be a standalone novel but Card then decided to make the protagonist the same on from the ''Literature/EndersGame'' novella. He then rewrote ''Ender's Game'' as a full novel to explain how Ender came to another planet.
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* OverlyLongSpanishName: well, Brazilian Portuguese, really, but the trope still stands. This is partially why "OnlyKnownByTheirNickname" is in effect.

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* OverlyLongSpanishName: OverlyLongName: well, Brazilian Portuguese, really, but the trope still stands. This is partially why "OnlyKnownByTheirNickname" is in effect.
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* SenselessSacrifice: [[spoiler:A tragic result of PoorCommunicationKills by Pipo and Libo.]]
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* IntelligentForest: Although each tree is intelligent, they are host to a more powerful entity collectively as the forest.
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* BabiesEverAfter: Subverted at the end: there's [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle still half a series to go]], plus Ender never actually ''has'' a child. Played straight otherwise.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: While a lack of understanding and proper communication between [[spoiler: formics and humans]] lead to xenocide in the first book, the Starways Congress decides that to prevent the same thing from ever happening again... they should be as conservative as possible and [[AesopAmnesia deliberately withhold as much knowledge]] as they can from another sapient species. This leads to two men being killed.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: While a lack of understanding and proper communication between [[spoiler: formics and humans]] lead to xenocide in the first book, the Starways Congress decides that to prevent the same thing from ever happening again... they should be as conservative as possible and [[AesopAmnesia deliberately withhold as much knowledge]] as they can from another sapient species. This leads to two men being killed. Conversely, the aliens who killed the men never explain ''why'' they did it, and thus don't understand why it was a big deal. It turns out to be a ''massive'' plot point about the nature of the descolada in the planet's ecosystem.

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* CommanderContrarian: Quara.

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* %%* CommanderContrarian: Quara.



* CyberneticsEatYourSoul: There's a considerable faction of Catholics who believe implants are a sacrilege, "trying to improve on a body that God had created perfect." As a result, users of prosthetics such as Olhado have it hard, even though he was ''blinded'' by a malfunctioning holographic projector. However, that prejudice even extends to gadgets such as the jewel Ender wears in his ear to communicate with Jane - and please note that said jewel is ''not'' a cybernetic interface, but simply a radio with a microphone capable of interpreting subvocal speech. Future Catholics consider ''wearables'' to be ungodly!
* DarkAndTroubledPast: Novinha.

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* CyberneticsEatYourSoul: There's a considerable faction of Catholics who believe implants are a sacrilege, "trying to improve on a body that God had created perfect." perfect". As a result, users of prosthetics such as Olhado have it hard, even though he was ''blinded'' by a malfunctioning holographic projector. However, that prejudice even extends to gadgets such as the jewel Ender wears in his ear to communicate with Jane - -- and please note that said jewel is ''not'' a cybernetic interface, but simply a radio with a microphone capable of interpreting subvocal speech. Future Catholics consider ''wearables'' to be ungodly!
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* DisappearedDad: Marcao. It takes Ender to point out the trauma that this really inflicted on the family.

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* DisappearedDad: DisappearedDad:
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Marcao. It takes Ender to point out the trauma that this really inflicted on the family.


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* DistantSequel: ''Speaker for the Dead'' is set about three thousand years after ''Ender's Game'', as this is the amount of time needed to travel from Earth to the book's setting, the planet Lusitania, in a slower-than-light sleeper ship.

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* AllForNothing: Novinha put herself through decades of hell to keep the piggies from killing Libo. It didn't work.



* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Novinha and Marcao, but for different reasons.



* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: Marcos was bullied as a child by other children who were intimidated by his huge size compared to theirs. Once, after being physically attacked, he struck back, badly hurting one of his attackers. When the adults arrived, his attackers blamed it all on Marcos, until Novinha spoke up and told the adults what really happened, letting Marcos off the hook. Marcos was completely dazzled by her helping him, even though everyone else easily saw that she wasn't speaking up ''for'' him, she was speaking ''against'' everyone else.



* CommanderContrarian: Quara

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* ChillyReception: Ender is not exactly welcomed to Lusitania with open arms. Instead, much of the deeply religious population considers him a heretic.
* CommanderContrarian: QuaraQuara.



* DarkAndTroubledPast: Novinha

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* DarkAndTroubledPast: NovinhaNovinha.



** Novinha and Libo are both devastated by Pipo's death. Worse, this is the second time Novinha lost a father, after her own parents died to the Descolada.
* EveryoneHasStandards: Nobody in Milagre really likes Novinha, but all of them loathe Marcos for beating his wife.



* FreudianExcuse: Novinha builds her entire life around trying not to get her lover killed. ([[DownerEnding She fails]].)

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* FreudianExcuse: Novinha builds her entire life around trying not to get her lover killed.killed, after losing her parents to a plague and her lover's father, who was also like a father to her. ([[DownerEnding She fails]].)



* InSeriesNickname: Marcos was known as 'Marcao' ('Big Marcos') and 'Cao' ('Dog'), the first for his sheer size, the second for his abuse of his wife.



* LoveMartyr: [[{{Deconstruction}} Deconstructed]] in the person of [[spoiler:Marcao]].
* MamaBear: Novinha
* MightyWhitey: downplayed. Ender's ability to solve all of Lusitania's problems is not presented as being a product of his hailing from Western culture (specifically, Greensboro, North Carolina), but he ''does'' solve their problems and he ''is'' the only white person there.

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* LoveMartyr: [[{{Deconstruction}} Deconstructed]] in the person of [[spoiler:Marcao]].
[[spoiler:Marcao. He married the one woman who had ever spoken up for him, and worshipped her. She not only did not reciprocate his feelings, she never felt any real affection for him, and married him so they'd both fit in better and so she'd have a cover for the children she would have. Marcos had a disease that rendered him sterile, so he knew fully well that all of his children were fathered by the man his wife actually loved. He became an alcoholic who repeatedly abused his wife and made his children's lives hell]].
* MamaBear: Novinha
Novinha.
* MightyWhitey: downplayed.Downplayed. Ender's ability to solve all of Lusitania's problems is not presented as being a product of his hailing from Western culture (specifically, Greensboro, North Carolina), but he ''does'' solve their problems and he ''is'' the only white person there.



* PreacherMan: Quim

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* PreacherMan: QuimQuim.



* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Ender gives one to the people of Milagre in the form of his Speaking Marcao's death. He tells them that Marcao, while an asshole, never deserved to be bullied by them as a child, and he definitely deserved to be treated better as an adult. If they had, maybe he wouldn't have become such a dick.



** WordOfGod states that it took many rewrites to turn Novinha's children into anything but {{Flat Character}}s, so this might just be more of the same problem.

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** WordOfGod states that it took many rewrites to turn Novinha's children into anything but {{Flat Character}}s, so this might just be more of the same problem.problem.
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler:Marcao's disease rendered him sterile. All of his children were fathered by Libo. He knew it, and had agreed to it, but he didn't actually like it.]]

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Olhado ("the guy with the eyes") is the big one, but it's true of ''everyone'' on Lusitania, mostly due to the {{Overly Long Name}}s that seem to be the vogue for the Brazilian colonists.

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: OnlyKnownByTheirNickname:
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Olhado ("the guy with the eyes") is the big one, but it's true of ''everyone'' on Lusitania, mostly due to the {{Overly Long Name}}s that seem to be the vogue for the Brazilian colonists.eyes"). Almost nobody even remembers his real name ("Lauro").



* {{Planimal}}: [[spoiler:A lot of species on the Pequenino's world, including them.]]

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* OverlyLongSpanishName: well, Brazilian Portuguese, really, but the trope still stands. This is partially why "OnlyKnownByTheirNickname" is in effect.
* {{Planimal}}: [[spoiler:A lot of [[spoiler:Every species on Lusitania, due to the Pequenino's world, including them.''descolada''.]]



** Revealed to be a deliberate plan by Graff, who grouped colonists by culture so that humanity would become more diverse and therefore stronger.

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** Revealed in the Shadow series to be a deliberate plan by Graff, who grouped colonists by culture so that humanity would become more diverse and therefore stronger.



* PoorCommunicationKills: While a lack of understanding and proper communication between [[spoiler: formics and humans]] lead to xenocide in the first book, the Starways Congress decides that to prevent the same thing from ever happening again... they should be as conservative as possible and [[AesopAmnesia deliberately withhold as much knowledge]] as they can from another sapient species. This leads to two men being killed in what is merely a gross misunderstanding of alien biology.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: While a lack of understanding and proper communication between [[spoiler: formics and humans]] lead to xenocide in the first book, the Starways Congress decides that to prevent the same thing from ever happening again... they should be as conservative as possible and [[AesopAmnesia deliberately withhold as much knowledge]] as they can from another sapient species. This leads to two men being killed in what is merely a gross misunderstanding of alien biology.killed.



* PromotionToParent: Ela, and to a lesser extent Miro, due to their parents' messy lives
* RobotsThinkFaster: Jane acts so quickly that her companions learn to simply ask her for something and then immediately get to work on the next steps requiring it. Her catchphrase is essentially is "Done." Because of this, it's a sign that something's terribly wrong in one instance where she ponders one dilemma for several minutes.

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* PromotionToParent: Ela, and to a lesser extent Miro, due to their parents' messy lives
lives.
* RobotsThinkFaster: Jane acts so quickly that her companions learn to simply ask her for something and then immediately get to work on the next steps requiring it. Her catchphrase is essentially is "Done." Because of this, it's a sign that something's terribly wrong in one instance where she ponders one dilemma for several minutes.



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: In an early chapter, Valentine's eldest daughter Syfte is set up as having a bit of a hero-worship for her uncle Ender, and planning to maybe follow him to Lusitania to help him. In the next book, Valentine's family ''does'' do that... But Syfte is barely mentioned.
** WordOfGod states that it took many rewrites to avert this for Novinha's children in ''Speaker for the Dead'' to begin with, so perhaps it is the ever-expanding cast size that is the root of the problem?

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: In an early chapter, Valentine's eldest daughter Syfte is set up as having a bit of a hero-worship for her uncle Ender, and planning to maybe follow him to Lusitania to help him. In the next book, Valentine's family ''does'' do that... But Syfte is barely mentioned.
mentioned. Of course, this is the same series that can't even remember how many other kids Valentine ''had'' (every time she counts her children, she comes up with a different number).
** WordOfGod states that it took many rewrites to avert this for turn Novinha's children in ''Speaker for the Dead'' to begin with, into anything but {{Flat Character}}s, so perhaps it is the ever-expanding cast size that is the root this might just be more of the problem?same problem.

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* AlienNonInterferenceClause: The colonists of Lusitania initially practice this towards the Pequenios. Turns out the Pequenios are less than happy with this arrangement. Turns out later that ''breaking'' the clause brings the threat that the human government will try to subject you to [[EarthShatteringKaboom rather extreme "decontamination" procedures]].

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* AlienNonInterferenceClause: The colonists of Lusitania initially practice this towards the Pequenios. Pequeninos, to incredibly extreme degrees, to the point that a xenologer's correspondence with an offworld colleague explains that he cannot comment on their reproduction because they have yet to perform it in front of him. Turns out the Pequenios Pequeninos are less than happy with this arrangement. Turns out later that ''breaking'' the clause brings the threat that the human government will try to subject you to [[EarthShatteringKaboom rather extreme "decontamination" procedures]].



* BrotherSisterIncest: SurpriseIncest is responsible for this one. [[spoiler:Ender discovers during his investigation that two characters who are boyfriend and girlfriend are in fact half-siblings due to an extramarital affair by Novinha.]]

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* BrotherSisterIncest: SurpriseIncest is responsible for this one. [[spoiler:Ender discovers during his investigation that two characters who are boyfriend and girlfriend are in fact half-siblings due to an extramarital affair by Novinha.between Novinha, the boy's mother, and Libo, the father of both of them.]]



* CommonTongue: Stark, an English-based language, derived from "[=STARways=] Kommon."

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* CommonTongue: Stark, an English-based language, derived from "[=STARways=] Kommon."'''Star'''ways '''K'''ommon."



** Some of Novinha and Libo's decisions, and how the Xenologers act towards the pequinos before Ender shows up.

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** Some of Novinha and Libo's decisions, and how the Xenologers act towards the pequinos pequenininos before Ender shows up.



* MightyWhitey: downplayed. Ender's ability to solve all of Lusitania's problems is not presented as being a product of his hailing from Western culture (specifically, Greensboro, North Carolina), but he ''does'' solve their problems and he ''is'' the only white person there.



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:The Pequeninos' reaction after being told that humans, unlike them, can't become Fathertrees upon death, meaning instead of honoring their most favored humans, they ritually murdered them. There is literal wailing and gnashing of teeth when they find out.]]

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:The Pequeninos' reaction after being told that humans, unlike them, can't become Fathertrees upon death, meaning instead of honoring their most favored humans, they ritually murdered them. There is literal genuine wailing and gnashing of teeth when they find out.]]
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*WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide: When the [[TheFederation Starways Congress]] decides to send an evacuation fleet to Lusitania ([[spoiler:in reality, they have orders to destroy the planet]]), Valentine (under the name Demosthenes) publishes articles attacking the Congress and revealing the true mission of the fleet, to the point of calling it [[spoiler:the Second Xenocide]]. The Congress immediately sends their StateSec to discover who is writing the articles to shut up Demosthenes, declaring whoever it is to be a traitor to the Hundred Worlds. Anyone using the term [[spoiler:the Second Xenocide]] is likewise considered to be speaking treason. So much for free speech.

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