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** Olaf had to ask to be sure what a wolf looks like when he first saw the Nattmara, even though he easily identified wolves in Once Upon a Snowman. Though that short came out after the book was written Olaf did know what a wolf was in the comic story “wolf at the door.”
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** In the novel "A Frozen Heart" Anna’s horse is named Kjekk. However, here the horse is named Havski.

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* DarkAndTroubledPast: The isolated upbringing and other traumas of Elsa and Anna have left them socially stunted and socially anxious.
** After spending so much time worrying about making one wrong move that would expose her powers, Elsa's quietness during meetings is due to fear, not stoicism. [[BrokenAce She also feels trapped by the pressure of living up to everyone's admiration and expectations of her.]]
** After being suddenly cut off from her sister and spending so much time facing constant apparent rejection, as well as [[IWasOnlyPretendingToLikeYou her fiancé revealing he was faking his feelings and implying that no one loved her]], Anna herself is constantly afraid that her loved ones, especially Elsa, secretly don't want her around. She also worries about whether she's valuable enough and is hurt by the knowledge that her family often keeps big secrets from her.



* SolarAndLunar: The REVOLUTE blade is said to have been a gift to Aren from the sun and the moon. REVOLUTE is actually an almagram of TRUE LOVE, likewise the moon and the sun are both symbolic of Elsa and Anna respectively. And it is their true sisterly love for each other that defeats the Nattmara.

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* SolarAndLunar: The REVOLUTE blade is said to have been a gift to Aren from the sun and the moon. REVOLUTE is actually an almagram anagram of TRUE LOVE, likewise the moon and the sun are both symbolic of Elsa and Anna respectively. And it is their true sisterly love for each other that defeats the Nattmara.Nattmara.
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The isolated upbringing and other traumas Elsa and Anna have endured over 13 years have left them socially stunted and socially anxious.
** After spending so much time worrying about making one wrong move that would expose her powers, Elsa's quietness during meetings is due to fear, not stoicism. [[BrokenAce She also feels trapped by the pressure of living up to everyone's admiration and expectations of her.]]
** After being suddenly cut off from her sister and spending so much time facing constant apparent rejection, as well as [[IWasOnlyPretendingToLikeYou her fiancé revealing he was faking his feelings and implying that no one loved her]], Anna herself is constantly afraid that her loved ones, especially Elsa, secretly don't want her around. She also worries about whether she's valuable enough and is hurt by the knowledge that her family often keeps big secrets from her.



** After receiving this boost, Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear, she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. And with that, the Nattmara is finally defeated.

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** After receiving this boost, Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear, she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. And with that, the Nattmara is queen; this finally defeated.defeats the evil spirit.

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* DarkAndTroubledPast: The isolated upbringing and other traumas of Elsa and Anna have left them socially stunted and socially anxious.
** After spending so much time worrying about making one wrong move that would expose her powers, Elsa's quietness during meetings is due to fear, not stoicism. [[BrokenAce She also feels trapped by the pressure of living up to everyone's admiration and expectations of her.]]
** After being suddenly cut off from her sister and spending so much time facing constant apparent rejection, as well as [[IWasOnlyPretendingToLikeYou her fiancé revealing he was faking his feelings and implying that no one loved her]], Anna herself is constantly afraid that her loved ones, especially Elsa, secretly don't want her around. She also worries about whether she's valuable enough and is hurt by the knowledge that her family often keeps big secrets from her.



* RealityEnsues: The isolated upbringing and other traumas of Elsa and Anna have left them socially stunted and socially anxious.
** After spending so much time worrying about making one wrong move that would expose her powers, Elsa's quietness during meetings is due to fear, not stoicism. [[BrokenAce She also feels trapped by the pressure of living up to everyone's admiration and expectations of her.]]
** After being suddenly cut off from her sister and spending so much time facing constant apparent rejection, as well as [[IWasOnlyPretendingToLikeYou her fiancé revealing he was faking his feelings and implying that no one loved her]], Anna herself is constantly afraid that her loved ones, especially Elsa, secretly don't want her around. She also worries about whether she's valuable enough and is hurt by the knowledge that her family often keeps big secrets from her.
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** The final chapter and the epilogue also doesn’t line up with Frozen 2. The final chapter says that the harvest festival is in a few days, the epilogue is the spirits awakening scene and is said to be a month later. In Frozen two both events happened on the same day.

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** %%Needs more context. Is it specified anywhere how long the harvest festival lasts?** The final chapter and the epilogue also doesn’t line up with Frozen 2.''Frozen II''. The final chapter says that the harvest festival is in a few days, the epilogue is the spirits awakening scene and is said to be a month later. In Frozen two ''Frozen II'' both events happened on the same day.
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** The final chapter and the epilogue also doesn’t line up with Frozen 2. The final chapter says that the harvest festival is in a few days, the epilogue is the spirits awakening scene and is said to be a month later. In Frozen two both events happened on the same day.
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** After receiving this boost, Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear, she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. With that, the Nattmara is finally defeated.

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** After receiving this boost, Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear, she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. With And with that, the Nattmara is finally defeated.
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* AnxietyDreams: Anna has dreams dealing with her abandonment and self-esteem issues. Her dreams include one about being replaced by another version of her with white hair whom her family prefers, and one about her former fiance, who tried to murder her and her family, trying again to marry her again for her title and telling her that her sister doesn't want her because she's not useful. These dreams also include reliving [[AndIMustScream the time she spent frozen as a statue of ice, physically frozen in both senses of the term and how helpless she felt while unable to comfort her sister]].

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* AnxietyDreams: Anna has dreams dealing with her abandonment and self-esteem issues. Her dreams include one about being replaced by another version of her with white hair whom her family prefers, and one about her former fiance, fiancé, who tried to murder her and her family, trying again to marry her again for her title and telling her that her sister doesn't want her because she's not useful. These dreams also include reliving [[AndIMustScream the time she spent frozen as a statue of ice, physically frozen in both senses of the term and how helpless she felt while unable to comfort her sister]].



** Aren is the legendary founder of Arendelle who was said to wield a magic sword that carved the fjord and went on many adventures with mermaids and dragons. While it's ambiguous that he was even a real person, he certainly wasn't as magical as the stories tell.

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** Aren is the legendary founder of Arendelle who was said to wield have wielded a magic sword that carved the fjord and went on many adventures with mermaids and dragons. While it's ambiguous that he was even a real person, he certainly wasn't as magical as the stories tell.



** After being suddenly cut off from her sister and spending so much time facing constant apparent rejection, as well as [[IWasOnlyPretendingToLikeYou her fiance revealing he was faking his feelings and implying that no one loved her]], Anna herself is constantly afraid that her loved ones, especially Elsa, secretly don't want her around. She also worries about whether she's valuable enough and is hurt by the knowledge that her family often keeps big secrets from her.

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** After being suddenly cut off from her sister and spending so much time facing constant apparent rejection, as well as [[IWasOnlyPretendingToLikeYou her fiance fiancé revealing he was faking his feelings and implying that no one loved her]], Anna herself is constantly afraid that her loved ones, especially Elsa, secretly don't want her around. She also worries about whether she's valuable enough and is hurt by the knowledge that her family often keeps big secrets from her.



** After receiving this boost, Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear, she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. As a result, the Nattmara is finally defeated.

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** After receiving this boost, Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear, she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. As a result, With that, the Nattmara is finally defeated.
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** Anna spent the entire time thinking that her sister didnt trust her and was leaving her while she went on her grand tour because of this. But she gets a major boost after reading a decree from Elsa saying that the was leaving Anna behind to watch Arendelle in her place because she trusts her, calling her thoughtful and considerate.
** After receiving this boost Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. As a result, the Nattmara is finally defeated.

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** Anna spent worries over the entire time thinking course of the book that her sister didnt doesn't trust her and was is leaving her while she went goes on her grand tour because of this. But she gets a major boost after reading a decree from Elsa saying that the was she is leaving Anna behind to watch Arendelle in her place because she trusts her, calling her thoughtful and considerate.
** After receiving this boost boost, Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear fear, she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. As a result, the Nattmara is finally defeated.
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** [[spoiler: Its also possible that Elsa wouldn't have been stressed enough to actually allow the Nattmara to manifest had Anna not impulsively told the people that Elsa would solve the blight in three days so that she could still make her grand tour. However the blight was a result of the Nattmara beginning to manifest Elsa could have worked out a way to solve it easier without Anna putting on extra stress.]]

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** [[spoiler: Its also possible that Anna tries to help Elsa wouldn't have been placate agitated Arendellians stressed enough to actually allow the Nattmara to manifest had Anna not impulsively told the people that Elsa would solve about the blight plaguing the kingdom by promising that Elsa will have it solved in three days so that she could still make her grand tour. However the blight was a result of the Nattmara beginning to manifest Elsa could have worked out a way to solve it easier without Anna putting on extra stress.days. However, this makes Elsa, already stressed, feel more pressure.]]
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Anna thinks that she accidentally unleashed the Nattmara after reading a spell from a book designed to "Make Dreams Come True" as she had been having nightnmares about being chased and devoured by a wolf for quite some time. [[spoiler: However, it turns out that the "spell" was just a poem without any actual power. The Nattmara actually manifested from Elsa suppressing her fears of not being a good enough queen by imagining that she is "feeding" them to a wolf constellation named Url.]]
** [[spoiler: Guess who taught Elsa that trick, her father.]]

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: NiceJobBreakingItHero:
** Played with. When the kingdom suffers from a terrible blight,
Anna thinks that she accidentally unleashed the Nattmara after tries to save her homeland by reading a spell from a book designed to "Make Dreams Come True" as True." This does not save the day, and next thing she knows, a wolf-like creature called the "Nattmara" is terrorizing the land -- a creature apparently from the nightmares she had been having nightnmares about being chased and devoured by a wolf for quite some time. [[spoiler: However, it turns out that the "spell" was just a poem without any actual power. The Nattmara actually manifested from Elsa suppressing her fears of not being a good enough queen by imagining that she is "feeding" them to a wolf constellation named Url.]]
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Guess who taught Elsa that trick, trick: her well-meaning father.]]
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** One scene also involves her having nightmares about Earth Giants destroying the village; a shipwreck in a storm[[note]]her parents were lost in one[[/note]]; being replaced by another version of her with white hair whom her family prefers; and her former fiance, who tried to murder her and her family, trying again to marry her again for her title and telling her that her sister "has no use" for her; and [[AndIMustScream the time she spent frozen as a statue of ice, physically frozen in both senses of the term and unable to comfort her sister]].

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** One scene also involves her having nightmares about Earth Giants destroying the village; a shipwreck in a storm[[note]]her parents were lost in one[[/note]]; being replaced by another version of her with white hair whom her family prefers; and her former fiance, who tried to murder her and her family, trying again to marry her again for her title and telling her that her sister "has no use" for her; and [[AndIMustScream the time she spent frozen as a statue of ice, physically frozen in both senses of the term and unable to comfort her sister]].
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* ChekhovsGun: [[spoiler: Subverted with the Revolute Blade. Anna and Elsa are lead to believe that it's the only thing that can defeat the Nattmara. When Elsa faces the Nattmara, however, the blade shatters. According to myth, it was an all powerful sword gifted to Arendells founder Aren to carve out the fjord and slay dragons. However, while Aren MAY have existed, there is certainly a lot of myth around the truth and the sword is just a regular blade.]]

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* ChekhovsGun: [[spoiler: Subverted with the Revolute Blade. Anna and Elsa are lead led to believe that it's the only thing that can defeat the Nattmara. When Elsa faces the Nattmara, however, the blade shatters. According to myth, it was an all powerful sword gifted to Arendells founder Aren to carve out the fjord and slay dragons. However, while Aren MAY have existed, there is certainly a lot of myth around the truth and the sword is just a regular blade.]]
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** [[spoiler: Its also possible that Elsa wouldnt have been stressed enough to actually allow the Nattmara to manifest had Anna not impulsively told the people that Elsa would solve the blight in three days so that she could still make her grand tour. However the blight was a result of the Nattmara beginning to manifest Elsa could have worked out a way to solve it easier without Anna putting on extra stress.]]

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** [[spoiler: Its also possible that Elsa wouldnt wouldn't have been stressed enough to actually allow the Nattmara to manifest had Anna not impulsively told the people that Elsa would solve the blight in three days so that she could still make her grand tour. However the blight was a result of the Nattmara beginning to manifest Elsa could have worked out a way to solve it easier without Anna putting on extra stress.]]



** After receiving this boost Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. Which defeats the Nattmara.

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** After receiving this boost Anna goes to save her sister from the Nattmara. After realizing that the Nattmara is a manifestation of Elsa's fear she gives her sister an emotional boost saying she's the person she looks up to and is a great queen. Which defeats As a result, the Nattmara.Nattmara is finally defeated.
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Her hair in the films is more brown than blonde, but to keep things simple, it might just be better to talk about the "strawberry" part.


* AdaptationalDyeJob: Here Anna is said to have chestnut brown hair instead of strawberry blonde/light red.

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* AdaptationalDyeJob: Here Anna is said to have chestnut brown hair instead of the more strawberry blonde/light red.color in the movie.
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* AdaptationalDyeJob: Here Anna is said to have chestnut brown hair instead of strawberry brown.

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* AdaptationalDyeJob: Here Anna is said to have chestnut brown hair instead of strawberry brown.blonde/light red.
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Her hair in the films is more brown than blonde.


* AdaptationalDyeJob: Here Anna is said to have chestnut brown hair instead of Strawberry Blonde.

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* AdaptationalDyeJob: Here Anna is said to have chestnut brown hair instead of Strawberry Blonde.strawberry brown.
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** King Runeard and the Northundra are mentioned.

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** King Runeard and the Northundra Northuldra are mentioned.
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This book doesn't override the film, so the trope doesn't apply.


* CanonDiscontinuity: See SchrodingersCanon, specifically the last point.

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Is it specified anywhere how long the harvest festival lasts?


* CanonDiscontinuity: See SchrodingersCanon, specifically the last two points.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: See SchrodingersCanon, specifically the last two points.point.



** likewise, the epilogue doesn’t match up with the sequel. In the final chapter it is said that the harvest festival will be the next day and the epilogue(which is a week later) is the scene from the movie where Anna wakes up after “into the unknown”. In the sequel, these events all happen on the same day.
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* CanonDiscontinuity: See SchrodingersCanon, specifically the last two points.


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** likewise, the epilogue doesn’t match up with the sequel. In the final chapter it is said that the harvest festival will be the next day and the epilogue(which is a week later) is the scene from the movie where Anna wakes up after “into the unknown”. In the sequel, these events all happen on the same day.
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not a valid trope


* DarkFanfic: The novel is almost a horror novel. The novel's antagonist is a giant wolf literally ripped straight from nightmares and many characters through the novel are struck with a nightmare sickness,[[spoiler: including Elsa and Sven.]]
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** The prologue has a version of Anna waking up after her accident which is completely different from in A Frozen Heart. She encounters a gigantic wolf. Seeing blood on its paws, she's terrified it's gotten Elsa.

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** The prologue has a version of Anna waking up after her accident which is completely different from in A Frozen Heart. She where she has a nightmare that she encounters a gigantic wolf. Seeing blood on its paws, she's terrified it's gotten Elsa.
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** The book opens up with Anna having one in which she encounters a gigantic wolf. Seeing blood on its paws, she's terrified it's gotten Elsa.

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** The book opens up with prologue has a version of Anna having one in waking up after her accident which she is completely different from in A Frozen Heart. She encounters a gigantic wolf. Seeing blood on its paws, she's terrified it's gotten Elsa.

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* AdaptationalDyeJob: Here Anna is said to have chestnut brown hair instead of Strawberry Blonde.



* DarkerAndEdgier: The novel is this compared to the movies, to the point that it's almost a horror novel. The novel's antagonist is a giant wolf literally ripped straight from nightmares and many characters through the novel are struck with a nightmare sickness,[[spoiler: including Elsa and Sven.]]

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* DarkerAndEdgier: DarkFanfic: The novel is this compared to the movies, to the point that it's almost a horror novel. The novel's antagonist is a giant wolf literally ripped straight from nightmares and many characters through the novel are struck with a nightmare sickness,[[spoiler: including Elsa and Sven.]]
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Not contradictory, unless the other two books are established to take place before Fo S.


** In two other books, ''Anna in Charge'' and ''Anna Takes Charge'', Elsa leaves Anna in charge of Arendelle with Anna understanding that Elsa trusts her while in FOS she takes Elsa leaving without her as Elsa not wanting her around.
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** As stated above, when Anna wakes up after the accident it seems as though Elsa and Anna were already living in separate rooms while in Frozen Heart (which has a different depiction of her waking up all together) and the actual movie shows that Elsa was moved out of Anna's room after her accident.

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** As stated above, when Anna wakes up after the accident it seems as though It's implied Elsa and Anna were already living in had separate rooms at the time of the accident that led to their estrangement, while in ''A Frozen Heart Heart'' (which has a different depiction of her waking up all together) and the actual movie shows that movie, Elsa was moved moves out of Anna's room their shared nursery after her the accident.
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** In a comic from the official Frozen Magazine "Restless Week" it has Elsa having nightmares for a whole week while the conflict of this story is due to Elsa using a trick to suppress her nightmares.
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"A Frozen Heart'' is retelling, not a canonical installment (and this book's own canoncity is dubious).


* CanonDiscontinuity: In the prologue it has Anna waking up after her accident in a way that is very different from when she awakens in Frozen Heart. Though Frozen Heart is itself dubiously canon, the Forest of Shadows version states that Elsa and Anna were already living in separate rooms by the time the accident took place while the canon movie shows that Elsa's belongings were moved to a separate room after the accident.

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