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* TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask: Mariesa has her moments.
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* AngryBlackMan: Azim Thomas and gang-banging company. A first-rate education helmed by an African teacher helps his case, though his best friend Zipper does his level best to snap him out of the RaceTraitor route he's taking. [[spoiler: "Do his level best" here means "make Azim part of a robbery/murder against his will". The kid's a sociopath.]]

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* CanonWelding: ''Lodestar'' suddenly includes several characters from Flynn's [[Literature/{{Foundation}} psychohistoric]] conspiracy thriller ''In the Country of the Blind''. The implication is that the societal trends in the series have been encouraged by the most decent secret society and their longtime rival society is still fighting them.
** It actually begins in ''Firestar''. Mariesa has hired the Detweiler group and repeatedly mentions their economic forecasts. Later she has a meeting with Gloria Bennett and Jimmy Caldero who present themselves as potential investors. Then later Jimmy Poole considers using the code from "the old Beaumont Worm" for a project.

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* CanonWelding: ''Lodestar'' suddenly includes several Beginning in ''Firestar'', Mariesa has hired the Detweiler group and repeatedly mentions their economic forecasts. They're characters from Flynn's [[Literature/{{Foundation}} [[{{Franchise/Foundation}} psychohistoric]] conspiracy thriller ''In the Country of the Blind''. The implication is that the societal trends in the series have been encouraged by the most decent secret society and their longtime rival society is still fighting them.
** It actually begins in ''Firestar''.
them. Later, Mariesa has hired the Detweiler group and repeatedly mentions their economic forecasts. Later she has a meeting with Gloria Bennett and Jimmy Caldero who present themselves as potential investors. Then later Jimmy Poole considers using the code from "the old Beaumont Worm" for a project.
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* ToughActToFollow: Tani Pandya's semiautobiographical novel ''Taj Mahal'' not only becomes this, but also makes people expect her to write about nothing but The Indian Experience for the rest of her career.

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* ToughActToFollow: InUniverse, Tani Pandya's semiautobiographical novel ''Taj Mahal'' not only becomes this, but also makes people expect her to write about nothing but The Indian Experience for the rest of her career.
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* SheCleansUpNicely: Male example in Jimmy Poole, after Roberta helps prep him for their class reunion.
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* YouShallNotPass: Azim, Jo-Jo, and Zipper stand in front of a rusted playground gate to ward off the members of a rival gang. Bonus points for them quoting "Horatius at the Bridge" as they do so.
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* TheRunaway: [[spoiler:Jenny Ribbon.]] Under constant pressure from her family to excel, she leaves home and disappears a month before graduation. [[spoiler: She later re-emerges in the series as "Mother Smythe," a respected and benevolent figure who helps troubled children find a second chance in life.)

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* TheRunaway: [[spoiler:Jenny Ribbon.]] Under constant pressure from her family to excel, she leaves home and disappears a month before graduation. [[spoiler: She later re-emerges in the series as "Mother Smythe," a respected and benevolent figure who helps troubled children find a second chance in life.)]]
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* TheRunaway: [[spoiler:Jenny Ribbon.]] Under constant pressure from her family to excel, she leaves home and disappears a month before graduation. [[spoiler: She later re-emerges in the series as "Mother Smythe," a respected and benevolent figure who helps troubled children find a second chance in life.)
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The ''Firestar Series'' is a set of four ScienceFiction novels by [[MichaelFlynn Michael F. Flynn]], consisting of ''Firestar'', ''Rogue Star'', ''Lodestar'', and ''Falling Stars''.

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The ''Firestar Series'' is a set of four ScienceFiction novels by [[MichaelFlynn [[Creator/MichaelFlynn Michael F. Flynn]], consisting of ''Firestar'', ''Rogue Star'', ''Lodestar'', and ''Falling Stars''.
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* [[ChekhovsVolcano Chekhov's Asteroid]]: Averted-''ish.'' Since Mariesa has dedicated her life to preventing the next major Earth-impacting asteroid, the GenreSavvy reader would expect one to come along. WordOfGod said that Flynn hadn't decided at the beginning whether that would happen. [[spoiler: In the end, there's a somewhat different threat.]]

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* [[ChekhovsVolcano Chekhov's Asteroid]]: Averted-''ish.'' Since Mariesa has dedicated her life to preventing the next major Earth-impacting asteroid, the GenreSavvy reader would expect one to come along. WordOfGod said that Flynn hadn't decided at the beginning whether that would happen. [[spoiler: In the end, there's a somewhat different threat.]]
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* CanonWelding: ''Lodestar'' suddenly includes several characters from Flynn's [[{{Foundation}} psychohistoric]] conspiracy thriller ''In the Country of the Blind''. The implication is that the societal trends in the series have been encouraged by the most decent secret society and their longtime rival society is still fighting them.

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* CanonWelding: ''Lodestar'' suddenly includes several characters from Flynn's [[{{Foundation}} [[Literature/{{Foundation}} psychohistoric]] conspiracy thriller ''In the Country of the Blind''. The implication is that the societal trends in the series have been encouraged by the most decent secret society and their longtime rival society is still fighting them.
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* TheCharmer: Ned DuBois translates this into a fruitful run of serial adultery. He assuages his guilty conscience about it by telling himself he's just a ChickMagnet [[ImAManICantHelpIt who can't help himself.]]

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* TheCharmer: Ned DuBois [=DuBois=] translates this into a fruitful run of serial adultery. He assuages his guilty conscience about it by telling himself he's just a ChickMagnet [[ImAManICantHelpIt who can't help himself.]]

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* AsteroidMiners: A lucrative and untapped industry, and thus a convenient excuse for Mariesa to work on her secret anti-asteroid mission.



* BrainComputerInterface: Known as the EIEI/O, or "Macdonald" for short. People who use them are stigmatized as "cheeseheads", but the technology isn't nearly as dystopian or groundbreaking as its detractors make it out to be. (Pretty sweet for severe physical handicaps, though.)



* ColonyDrop: Mariesa's lifelong terror. [[spoiler: Thanks to the efforts of some Abusive Precursors, her efforts to prevent it ironically make the threat much more immediate.]]



* DoubleAgent: Jimmy Poole runs Poole Securities, putting out the best security software money can commission. He is also the notorious illicit hacker Crackman. Sometimes, the personae... conflict.



* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: At times it seems like the Witherspoon Class of 2001 is doing ''all'' the work.

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* EmotionsVsStoicism: Positive character development usually means gravitating toward a happy medium, more on the "stoic" side of the line but much warmer than the extreme stoicism of the Van Huytens.
* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: At times it seems like the The Witherspoon Class of 2001 is doing ''all'' so in the work.thick of every major event that the conspiracy theorists must be going off the hook. (Okay, so there definitely ''is'' a conspiracy centered on Witherspoon, but you couldn't blame people for positing a much more sinister and further-reaching one.)
* FutureSlang: So much of it, it comes in ''generations''. When not tied to the new technologies, these convey concepts not on the slang radar of real-life youth culture: for instance "herbie", meaning "sophomoric and also kind of dorky", or "bone charlie", meaning "deep-down reliable dude."



* KillSat: Mariesa intentionally develops this technology with the hopes of vaporizing asteroids. [[spoiler: Then the U.S. government catches wind of it and tries exploiting the military applications...]]



* [[spoiler:NoMereWindmill]]: In an ironic sort of way.



* SheIsNotMyGirlfriend: Ned spends so much time thinking about how he doesn't miss his estranged wife, it's clear he's fooling himself.



* TakeAThirdOption: Barry enacts a courageous one against Cyrus Attwood, but it doesn't work out too well for him personally.

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* TakeAThirdOption: Barry enacts a courageous one against Cyrus Attwood, but though it doesn't work out too well for him personally.personally.
* TeethClenchedTeamwork: Crops up a fair bit; the most dramatic example is between [[TheBully Chase Coughlin]] and [[InsufferableGenius Jimmy Poole]].
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* ArtificialLimbs: By ''Lodestar'', they're quite good. Take some intensive mental conditioning to adjust to and are in the UncannyValley of semblance to a real arm, but still.

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* ArtificialLimbs: By ''Lodestar'', they're quite good. Take some intensive mental neural=path conditioning to adjust to and are in the UncannyValley of semblance to a real arm, but still.
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* AngryBlackMan: Azim Thomas and gang-banging company. A first-rate education helmed by an African teacher helps his case, though his best friend Zipper does his level best to snap him out of the RaceTraitor route he's taking. [[spoiler: "Do his level best" here means "make Azim part of a robbery/murder against his will". The kid's a sociopath.]]


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* ArtificialLimbs: By ''Lodestar'', they're quite good. Take some intensive mental conditioning to adjust to and are in the UncannyValley of semblance to a real arm, but still.


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* ToughActToFollow: Tani Pandya's semiautobiographical novel ''Taj Mahal'' not only becomes this, but also makes people expect her to write about nothing but The Indian Experience for the rest of her career.
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* TheCharmer: Ned DuBois translates this into a fruitful run of serial adultery. He assuages his guilty conscience about it by telling himself he's just a ChickMagnet [[ImAManICantHelpIt who can't help himself.]]


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* TheConscience: Belinda Karr, Keith Richardson. Mariesa's being underhanded indeed when she knows that one of them would disapprove and presses ahead anyway.


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* ShockValueRelationship: Mariesa first asks Barry on a date primarily to shock her stuffy old-money mother.


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* TakeAThirdOption: Barry enacts a courageous one against Cyrus Attwood, but it doesn't work out too well for him personally.
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* AsianAndNerdy: Considered the default setting for nerds at the time of the Witherspoon takeover, Tani Pandya being the most prominent example.


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* DumbBlonde: Leilah Frazetti. She matures a lot over the course of the series, but that's more a matter of guts than brains.


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* GeekPhysique: Jimmy Poole is obese due to a faintly transhumanist disdain for his "hardware".


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* SexySecretary: Ned mistakes Mariesa for this.

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* TheChessmaster: ''Mariesa''.



* TheChessmaster: ''Mariesa''.

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* TheChessmaster: ''Mariesa''.JockDadNerdSon: Jimmy Poole has quite the complex about this.


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* {{Workaholic}}: Mariesa, to the point where she regards two months in intensive care [[spoiler: after a stillbirth that nearly kills her]] as quite enough rest already, thank you.

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Twenty-seven years later, the secret space program she has been developing with select members of scion companies prepares to begin test flight, as Mariesa selects students from her latest acquisition, Mentor Academies, to ensure the future of the space program - her only hope to fight asteroids, and the highest dreams of her inner circle.

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Twenty-seven years later, the secret space program she has been developing with select members of scion companies prepares to begin test flight, as Mariesa selects students from her latest acquisition, Mentor Academies, to ensure the future of the space program - -- her only hope to fight asteroids, and the highest dreams of her inner circle.



* [[ChekhovsVolcano Chekhov's Asteroid]]: Averted-''ish.'' Since Mariesa has dedicated her life to preventing the next major Earth-impacting asteroid, the GenreSavvy reader would expect one to come along. WordOfGod said that Flynn hadn't decided at the beginning whether that would happen. [[spoiler: In the end, there's a somewhat different threat.]]



* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: The Witherspoon Class of 2001 seems like it's doing ''all'' the work at times.

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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: The At times it seems like the Witherspoon Class of 2001 seems like it's is doing ''all'' the work at times.work.



* {{Goth}}: Styx - Mariesa wonders if she defies stereotypes or if it's simply a stereotype she's not familiar with.

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* {{Goth}}: Styx - -- Mariesa wonders if she defies stereotypes or if it's simply a stereotype she's not familiar with.



* InsufferableGenius: Jimmy Poole. As such, he's rather low on scruples - and given his computer skills, things get interesting.
* InterclassRomance: Barry and Mariesa. Justified because he's a schoolteacher and she's practically on the Fiction500.

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* InsufferableGenius: Jimmy Poole. As such, he's rather low on scruples - -- and given his computer skills, things get interesting.
* InterclassRomance: Barry and Mariesa. Justified because he's a schoolteacher and she's practically on the Fiction500.[[{{Fiction500}} Fiction 500]].



* SaveOurStudents: You can scarcely turn around in this universe without hitting some ambitious program to educate the disadvantaged - Witherspoon not least. "Mother Smythe" with her chaste sisterhoods is probably the most drastic example.

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* SaveOurStudents: You can scarcely turn around in this universe without hitting some ambitious program to educate the disadvantaged - -- Witherspoon not least. "Mother Smythe" with her chaste sisterhoods is probably the most drastic example.



* StrawmanPolitical: Surprisingly thin on the ground - all political sides from paleocons to progressives are shown to have their points - but Dottie in the People's Crusades is a StrawFeminist if ever there was one.

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* StrawmanPolitical: Surprisingly thin on the ground - -- all political sides from paleocons to progressives are shown to have their points - -- but Dottie in the People's Crusades is a StrawFeminist if ever there was one.
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The ''Firestar Series'' is a set of four ScienceFiction novels by Michael F. Flynn, consisting of ''Firestar'', ''Rogue Star'', ''Lodestar'', and ''Falling Stars''.

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The ''Firestar Series'' is a set of four ScienceFiction novels by [[MichaelFlynn Michael F. Flynn, Flynn]], consisting of ''Firestar'', ''Rogue Star'', ''Lodestar'', and ''Falling Stars''.
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* TimeSkip: There's a pretty significant time skip between ''Rogue Star'' and ''Lodestar'', with a couple significant events that happened in the interim mentioned only in passing at the start of the book.
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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: "Believe everything, and you had to hold Bullock responsible for the slave trade, the Spanish Inquisition, and the birth of disco."
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** It actually begins in ''Firestar''. Mariesa has hired the Detweiler group and repeatedly mentions their economic forecasts. Later she has a meeting with Gloria Bennett and Jimmy Caldero who present themselves as potential investors. Then later Jimmy Poole considers using the code from "the old Beaumont Worm" for a project.
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The ''Firestar Series'' is a set of four novels by Michael F. Flynn.

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The ''Firestar Series'' is a set of four ScienceFiction novels by Michael F. Flynn.
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->''If we can send a man to the moon, why can't we send a man to the moon?''

The ''Firestar Series'' is a set of four novels by Michael F. Flynn.

In 1972, Mariesa van Huyten, heir apparent to her grandfather's corporate empire, witnesses a shooting star in the daylight over the Grand Tetons. The slightest change in the trajectory, she knows, could have been catastrophic. It marks her for life.

Twenty-seven years later, the secret space program she has been developing with select members of scion companies prepares to begin test flight, as Mariesa selects students from her latest acquisition, Mentor Academies, to ensure the future of the space program - her only hope to fight asteroids, and the highest dreams of her inner circle.

But the road is beset with enemies: political opposition, competitors, saboteurs, and not least, their own vaunting ambition.

Humanity, though, for all its flaws, is a race built to vaunt.

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* BlackAndNerdy: Hobie ends up as the frontrunner for the Nobel Prize. He's actually a jock in high school; his former classmates never quite get over this.
* BrokenPedestal: [[spoiler: Roberta]] does ''not'' appreciate being manipulated.
* CanonWelding: ''Lodestar'' suddenly includes several characters from Flynn's [[{{Foundation}} psychohistoric]] conspiracy thriller ''In the Country of the Blind''. The implication is that the societal trends in the series have been encouraged by the most decent secret society and their longtime rival society is still fighting them.
* ChasteHero: Jacinta Rosario is part of an inner-city female-empowerment sort of chastity movement.
* ClassReunion: This is where Roberta closes her revenge deal with Jimmy Poole.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Klondike-American is fond of these, though only Cyrus Attwood is hard-core evil.
* CoversAlwaysLie: The cover of ''Lodestar'' depicts a two-page dream sequence, and not a mining operation on an asteroid as the observer would assume.
* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: The Witherspoon Class of 2001 seems like it's doing ''all'' the work at times.
* GoGetterGirl: Jenny Ribbon, thanks to her stage mom.
* {{Goth}}: Styx - Mariesa wonders if she defies stereotypes or if it's simply a stereotype she's not familiar with.
* InnerCitySchool: Witherspoon, before Belinda Karr gets to it.
* InsufferableGenius: Jimmy Poole. As such, he's rather low on scruples - and given his computer skills, things get interesting.
* InterclassRomance: Barry and Mariesa. Justified because he's a schoolteacher and she's practically on the Fiction500.
* IronLady: Mariesa. Less so after [[spoiler: she resigns the chairship]], but her dialogue is still formal to the point of iciness, especially when she gets defensive.
* TheChessmaster: ''Mariesa''.
* NerdsAreVirgins: Jimmy Poole goes to astounding lengths in ''Rogue Star'' to get laid.
* SaveOurStudents: You can scarcely turn around in this universe without hitting some ambitious program to educate the disadvantaged - Witherspoon not least. "Mother Smythe" with her chaste sisterhoods is probably the most drastic example.
* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: A very practical sort of idealistic.
* SmugSnake: Cyrus Attwood.
* StrawmanPolitical: Surprisingly thin on the ground - all political sides from paleocons to progressives are shown to have their points - but Dottie in the People's Crusades is a StrawFeminist if ever there was one.
* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: The first book was written in 1997 and set in 1999. It still feels like near-future.
* TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask: Mariesa has her moments.
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