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Up To Eleven is being dewicked.
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* UpToEleven: Many character traits would have been exaggerated for the RuleOfDrama, for the RuleOfCool, and because it is a Disney adaptation.
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* RepriseSong: "Let us go to Paris", sung by Oswald and Regina.
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* VillainSong: Engstrand hams it up, explaining how a common man with a lot of resentment can gain power over the priest, and thus over the whole community.
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* VillainSong: Engstrand hams it up, explaining how a common man with a lot of resentment can gain power over the priest, and thus over the whole community.
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* NonHumanSidekick: A number of possibilities, to be sure. A cat residing in the Alving home? A parrot brought home from Paris?
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* NonHumanSidekick: A number of possibilities, to be sure. A cat residing in the Alving home? A parrot brought home from Paris? A talkative parrot with a french accent and a SilentSnarker cat would actually be quite funny.
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* ChildhoodSweethearts: Oswald and Regina, of course.
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* ChildhoodSweethearts: ChildhoodFriendRomance: Oswald and Regina, of course.
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* ChildhoodSweethearts: Oswald and Regina, of course.
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* GayParee: Where Regina wants to go.
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* CrowdSong: At the start of the play, when everyone in the town prepares for the great initiation of the Alving memorial home. Also a song about how splendid Alving was, in the view of the townspeople. A reprise is to be expected towards the end, when it all wraps up.
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* CrowdSong: At the start of the play, when everyone in the town prepares for the great initiation of the Alving memorial home. Also a song about how splendid Alving was, in the view of the townspeople. A reprise is to be expected towards the end, when it all wraps up.
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* TheReveal: It turns out Oswald is the son of Manders, and Regina is the daughter of Alving, and [[RagsToRiches thus entitled to a fortune]].
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* TheReveal: It turns out Oswald is the son of Manders, and Regina is the daughter of Alving, and [[RagsToRiches thus entitled to a fortune]]. Helen Alving just waited for the right moment to tell them.
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* DeadpanSnarker: Regina has her moments. Also Helen Alving.
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* NonHumanSidekick: A number of possibilities, to be sure. A cat residing in the Alving home? A parrot brought home from Paris?
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* SilentSnarker: The cat residing in the Alving home.
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* BidBad: Engstrand, of course. Also TheManBehindTheMan.
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* BidBad: BigBad: Engstrand, of course. Also TheManBehindTheMan.
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* BidBad: Engstrand, of course. Also TheManBehindTheMan.
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* HeelFaceTurn: Manders, who actually believed in both Alving`s reputation and Engstrand`s Schemes, comes clear after the fire, has a HeroicBSOD moment and a little musical number to boot, before he gets around to the LukeIAmYourFather talk with Oswald, and then proposes til Helen.
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* HeelFaceTurn: Manders, who actually believed in both Alving`s reputation and Engstrand`s Schemes, comes clear after the fire, has a HeroicBSOD moment and a little musical number to boot, before he gets around to the LukeIAmYourFather talk with Oswald, and then proposes til Helen.to Helen. She gives in, of course.
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* EvilLaugh: Engstrand when his schemes are revealed. [[ItAmusedMe He actually doesn`t care]].
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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: Manders, until Helen sets him straight.
* IdiotBall: Manders is the one character who ''doesn`t'' need much improval from the Disney side, except for his HeelFaceTurn towards the end of the movie.
* IdiotBall: Manders is the one character who ''doesn`t'' need much improval from the Disney side, except for his HeelFaceTurn towards the end of the movie.
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* UpToEleven: Many character traits would have been exaggerated for the RuleOfDrama, for the RuleOfCool, and because it is a Disney adaptation.
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* ByronicHero: Oswald, but getting lighter and happier because of Regina.
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* ManicPixieDreamGirl: Regina, of course. She is Belle and Rapunzel combined.
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* {{Reprise}}: "Let us go to Paris", sung by Oswald and Regina.
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* {{Reprise}}: RepriseSong: "Let us go to Paris", sung by Oswald and Regina.
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* RepriseNumber: "Let us go to Paris", sung by Oswald and Regina.
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* RepriseNumber: "Let us go to Paris", sung by Oswald and Regina.
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* LighterAndSofter: Compared to the original play, and given this is a (possible) Disney take on it - what else would you expect?
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* CrowdSong: At the start of the play, when everyone in the town prepares for the great initiation of the Alving memorial home. Also a song about how splendid Alving was, in the view of the townspeople.
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* CrowdSong: At the start of the play, when everyone in the town prepares for the great initiation of the Alving memorial home. Also a song about how splendid Alving was, in the view of the townspeople. A reprise is to be expected towards the end, when it all wraps up.
* DisneyVillainDeath: Engstrand, riding in triumphant glory over a burning building, falls from the tower and into the flames.
* HeelFaceTurn: Manders, who actually believed in both Alving`s reputation and Engstrand`s Schemes, comes clear after the fire, has a HeroicBSOD moment and a little musical number to boot, before he gets around to the LukeIAmYourFather talk with Oswald, and then proposes til Helen.
* HeroicSacrifice: Oswald runs head on into a burning building to save Engstrand, because he believes Regina is his daughter.
* DisneyVillainDeath: Engstrand, riding in triumphant glory over a burning building, falls from the tower and into the flames.
* HeelFaceTurn: Manders, who actually believed in both Alving`s reputation and Engstrand`s Schemes, comes clear after the fire, has a HeroicBSOD moment and a little musical number to boot, before he gets around to the LukeIAmYourFather talk with Oswald, and then proposes til Helen.
* HeroicSacrifice: Oswald runs head on into a burning building to save Engstrand, because he believes Regina is his daughter.
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* LukeIAmYourFather: Manders gets around to take that talk with Oswald, after a lot of angsting.
* TheResenter: Engstrand, because of his social status, and because of his wounded leg.
* TheReveal: It turns out Oswald is the son of Manders, and Regina is the daughter of Alving, and [[RagsToRiches thus entitled to a fortune]].
* SwissArmyTears: When Regina gets Oswald back to life with an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove.
* TeamMom: Helen Alving, of course.
* VillainSong: Engstrand hams it up, explaining how a common man with a lot of resentment can gain power over the priest, and thus over the whole community.
* TheResenter: Engstrand, because of his social status, and because of his wounded leg.
* TheReveal: It turns out Oswald is the son of Manders, and Regina is the daughter of Alving, and [[RagsToRiches thus entitled to a fortune]].
* SwissArmyTears: When Regina gets Oswald back to life with an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove.
* TeamMom: Helen Alving, of course.
* VillainSong: Engstrand hams it up, explaining how a common man with a lot of resentment can gain power over the priest, and thus over the whole community.
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* CrowdSong: At the start of the play, when everyone in the town prepares for the great initiation of the Alving memorial home. Also a song about how splendid Alving was, in the view of the townspeople.
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Disney´s ''Ghosts''. Think about it. What if Walt Disney Company used the plot of a Creator/HenrikIbsen play, more or less? This is a possible take on the play Theatre/{{Ghosts}}. And Disney would have turned it around to a HappyEnding, with Regina Engstrand and Oswald Alving as the AlphaCouple, and Manders and Helen Alving as the BetaCouple. The movie would have casted Engstrand the Carpenter as the actual villain, with a complete DisneyVillainDeath in the fire between the second and the third act of the original play. His villainy would have been played far more visible than in the play. Other twists would include a lot of songs, and a plot twist (hinted upon, but not stated by Ibsen), making Manders the actual father of Oswald, and thus avoiding the whole Syphilis thing. Regina, on the other hand, is, of course, the daughter of the late captain Alving, avoiding {{Squick}}, but making a possible pairing up at the very end. A HeelFaceTurn from Manders is to be expected, as he gallantly proposes to Helen, overcoming his internal demons. ''And they all live happily ever after''.
!! This movie would have contained examples of these tropes:
* CrowdSong: At the start of the play, when everyone in the town prepares for the great initiation of the Alving memorial home. Also a song about how splendid Alving was, in the view of the townspeople.
* IWantSong: Prominently from Regina ("I want to go to Paris"). Sung after her encounter with Engstrand, whom she believes to be her father.
!! This movie would have contained examples of these tropes:
* CrowdSong: At the start of the play, when everyone in the town prepares for the great initiation of the Alving memorial home. Also a song about how splendid Alving was, in the view of the townspeople.
* IWantSong: Prominently from Regina ("I want to go to Paris"). Sung after her encounter with Engstrand, whom she believes to be her father.
