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** [[spoiler: Godot/Diego Armando]] is one. Yes, he is quite a jerk to Phoenix and his plan of dealing with [[spoiler: Morgan's plan to kill Maya was self-centered but he was poisoned by Dahlia, had his lover be killed while he was in a coma, and had to go through many medical treatments just to stay alive. He's pretty much a huge StepfordSmiler who hides so much despair and guilt that it's astounding he can even show up to court.]]

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** [[spoiler: Godot/Diego Armando]] is one. Yes, he is quite a jerk to Phoenix and his plan of dealing with [[spoiler: Morgan's plan to kill Maya was self-centered but he was poisoned by Dahlia, Dahlia and had his lover be killed while he was in a coma, and had to go through many medical treatments just to stay alive.coma. He's pretty much a huge StepfordSmiler who hides so much despair and guilt that it's astounding he can even show up to court.]]
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* In VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony, we have Miu Iruma, who is crude, obnoxious and is TheFriendNobodyLikes. However, Kaede notes that while Miu has NoSocialSkills, she isn't actively malicious and merely blurts out whatever she's thinking without filtering herself. This personality drives people away from her, but because Miu has a FriendlessBackground, she has no idea how grating people find her. On top of that, beneath her LargeHam behaviour, she's actually a ShrinkingViolet who adopted her personality to protect herself from bullies, but it doesn't take much to make her panic and revert back to her timid ways. [[spoiler: Her death is a result of trying to kill Kokichi in the Virtual World, only for him to find out and counter it by having Gonta kill her. However, Miu's goals were actually noble as she wanted to get to the outside world to help people she believed were suffering and her paranoid tendencies had led her to become increasingly mistrustful of her fellow students. Had she more friends outside of Ki-bo, she may not have gone through with her attempt at all.]] Her Love Suite Event also shows some sad characteristics about her, like how she is secretly very lonely and has major abandonment issues; her ideal is a childhood friend, someone who continues to care for her since they were kids and can see through her act and knows the real her. She then begs her childhood friend to make a baby with her because she does not want him to abandon her too.

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* In VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony, we have Miu Iruma, who is crude, obnoxious and is TheFriendNobodyLikes. However, Kaede notes that while Miu has NoSocialSkills, she isn't actively malicious and merely blurts out whatever she's thinking without filtering herself. This personality drives people away from her, but because Miu has a FriendlessBackground, she has no idea how grating people find her. On top of that, beneath her LargeHam behaviour, she's actually a ShrinkingViolet who adopted her personality to protect herself from bullies, cover up her insecurities, but it doesn't take much to make her panic and revert back to her timid ways. [[spoiler: Her death is a result of trying to kill Kokichi in the Virtual World, only for him to find out and counter it by having Gonta kill her. However, Miu's goals were actually noble as she wanted to get to the outside world to help people she believed were suffering and her paranoid tendencies had led her to become increasingly mistrustful of her fellow students. Had she more friends outside of Ki-bo, she may not have gone through with her attempt at all.]] Her Love Suite Event also shows some sad characteristics about her, like how she is secretly very lonely and has major abandonment issues; her ideal is a childhood friend, someone who continues to care for her since they were kids and can see through her act and knows the real her. She then begs her childhood friend to make a baby with her because she does not want him to abandon her too.
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* In VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony, we have Miu Iruma, who is crude, obnoxious and is TheFriendNobodyLikes. However, Kaede notes that while Miu has NoSocialSkills, she isn't actively malicious and merely blurts out whatever she's thinking without filtering herself. This personality drives people away from her, but because Miu has a FriendlessBackground, she has no idea how grating people find her. On top of that, beneath her LargeHam behaviour, she's actually a ShrinkingViolet who adopted her personality to protect herself from bullies, but it doesn't take much to make her panic and revert back to her timid ways. [[spoiler: Her death is a result of trying to kill Kokichi in the Virtual World, only for him to find out and counter it by having Gonta kill her. However, Miu's goals were actually noble as she wanted to get to the outside world to help people she believed were suffering and her paranoid tendencies had lead her to become increasingly mistrustful of her fellow students. Had she more friends outside of Ki-bo, she may not have gone through with her attempt at all.]]

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* In VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony, we have Miu Iruma, who is crude, obnoxious and is TheFriendNobodyLikes. However, Kaede notes that while Miu has NoSocialSkills, she isn't actively malicious and merely blurts out whatever she's thinking without filtering herself. This personality drives people away from her, but because Miu has a FriendlessBackground, she has no idea how grating people find her. On top of that, beneath her LargeHam behaviour, she's actually a ShrinkingViolet who adopted her personality to protect herself from bullies, but it doesn't take much to make her panic and revert back to her timid ways. [[spoiler: Her death is a result of trying to kill Kokichi in the Virtual World, only for him to find out and counter it by having Gonta kill her. However, Miu's goals were actually noble as she wanted to get to the outside world to help people she believed were suffering and her paranoid tendencies had lead led her to become increasingly mistrustful of her fellow students. Had she more friends outside of Ki-bo, she may not have gone through with her attempt at all.]]]] Her Love Suite Event also shows some sad characteristics about her, like how she is secretly very lonely and has major abandonment issues; her ideal is a childhood friend, someone who continues to care for her since they were kids and can see through her act and knows the real her. She then begs her childhood friend to make a baby with her because she does not want him to abandon her too.
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** [[RichBitch Eva Ushiromiya]]. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, her younger sister and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with her niece Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies by stress-induced illness with Ange and the rest of the world thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]]. Of course, as tragic as her life has been in the last 12 years of her life, it doesn't change the fact that she was an old stupid and spoiled bitch who dumped her childhood frustrations [[FemaleMisogynist on other women]] who had nothing to do with her sexist injustice inflicted from her father, who married with Hideyoshi and conceived and raised her son [[EducationMama severely]] only for the purpose of snatching the succession and position of the inheritance of her brother's daughter to the point of even wanting to [[MyBelovedSmother plan George's future]] [[ArrangedMarriage married life]] with her bigoted ideas about marriage.

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** [[RichBitch Eva Ushiromiya]]. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, her younger sister Rosa and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with her niece Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies by stress-induced illness with Ange and the rest of the world thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]]. Of course, as tragic as her life has been in the last 12 years of her life, it doesn't change the fact that she was an old stupid and spoiled bitch who dumped her childhood frustrations [[FemaleMisogynist on other women]] who had nothing to do with her sexist injustice inflicted from her father, who married with Hideyoshi and conceived and raised her son [[EducationMama severely]] only for the purpose of snatching the succession and position of the inheritance of her brother's daughter to the point of even wanting to [[MyBelovedSmother plan George's future]] [[ArrangedMarriage married life]] with her bigoted ideas about marriage.
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** [[RichBitch Eva Ushiromiya]]. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, her younger sister and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]]. Of course, as tragic as her life has been in the last 12 years of her life, it doesn't change the fact that she was an old stupid and spoiled bitch who dumped her childhood frustrations [[FemaleMisogynist on other women]] who had nothing to do with her sexist injustice inflicted from her father, who married with Hideyoshi and conceived and raised her son [[EducationMama severely]] only for the purpose of snatching the succession and position of the inheritance of her brother's daughter to the point of even wanting to [[MyBelovedSmother plan George's future]] [[ArrangedMarriage married life]].

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** [[RichBitch Eva Ushiromiya]]. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, her younger sister and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with her niece Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies by stress-induced illness with Ange and the rest of the world thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]]. Of course, as tragic as her life has been in the last 12 years of her life, it doesn't change the fact that she was an old stupid and spoiled bitch who dumped her childhood frustrations [[FemaleMisogynist on other women]] who had nothing to do with her sexist injustice inflicted from her father, who married with Hideyoshi and conceived and raised her son [[EducationMama severely]] only for the purpose of snatching the succession and position of the inheritance of her brother's daughter to the point of even wanting to [[MyBelovedSmother plan George's future]] [[ArrangedMarriage married life]].life]] with her bigoted ideas about marriage.
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** Eva Ushiromiya. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, her younger sister and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]].
** A good portion of the characters in Umineko qualify as this actually, as most are abused and broken down by life while still remaining in some way awful. Rosa, Natsuhi, Eva, Krauss, even [[spoiler:Lambda, Erika,]] and especially [[spoiler:Beatrice/Yasu/Shannon]] are perhaps the best examples.

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** [[RichBitch Eva Ushiromiya.Ushiromiya]]. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, her younger sister and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]].
psychopath]]. Of course, as tragic as her life has been in the last 12 years of her life, it doesn't change the fact that she was an old stupid and spoiled bitch who dumped her childhood frustrations [[FemaleMisogynist on other women]] who had nothing to do with her sexist injustice inflicted from her father, who married with Hideyoshi and conceived and raised her son [[EducationMama severely]] only for the purpose of snatching the succession and position of the inheritance of her brother's daughter to the point of even wanting to [[MyBelovedSmother plan George's future]] [[ArrangedMarriage married life]].
** A good portion of the characters in Umineko qualify as this actually, as most are abused and broken down by life while still remaining in some way awful. Rosa, Natsuhi, Eva, Krauss, even [[spoiler:Lambda, [[spoiler:Bernkastel, Erika,]] and especially [[spoiler:Beatrice/Yasu/Shannon]] are perhaps the best examples.
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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]] to the point of being happy when she regularly fell victim to CruelAndInusualDeath and TheManyDeathsOfYou, seeing it as a highly deserved karmic form of KickTheSonOfABitch. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuse to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]] to the point of being happy when she regularly fell victim to CruelAndInusualDeath CruelAndUnusualDeath and TheManyDeathsOfYou, seeing it as a highly deserved karmic form of KickTheSonOfABitch. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuse to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuse to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]].her]] to the point of being happy when she regularly fell victim to CruelAndInusualDeath and TheManyDeathsOfYou, seeing it as a highly deserved karmic form of KickTheSonOfABitch. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuse to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuse to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuse to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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* ''VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls'':
The Warriors of Hope are a group of 5 children that indiscriminately murder defenseless adults and teenagers as a game. Each one has also suffered prolonged, harsh parental abuse and/or neglect to the point where [[spoiler:they had to be saved from ''attempting mutual suicide''.]]

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* ''VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls'':
''VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls'': The Warriors of Hope are a group of 5 children that indiscriminately murder defenseless adults and teenagers as a game. Each one has also suffered prolonged, harsh parental abuse and/or neglect to the point where [[spoiler:they had to be saved from ''attempting mutual suicide''.]]



* ''VisualNovel/YourTurnToDie'': Sou Hiyori is the gloomy loner in the group. Through the bulk of the first two rounds, he's nothing but antagonistic to the other players, especially Sara. He uses Kanna for his own gain and lies constantly, not to mention how he's the one who [[spoiler:gave Joe the Sacrifice card in the first Main Game]]. But like all of the other participants, Sou was kidnapped and placed into a deadly game and is just trying to survive. He's just as crushed as anyone when [[spoiler:his attempt to help them all escape ends in failure.]] It's also revealed that [[spoiler:during his first trial, he learned the victory rates of the other candidates and that his was 0% -- from the very beginning, he knew that the group was going to inevitably vote him out and kill him. His distrust of the main group and especially Sara, who has the highest victory rate, is at least understandable.]]

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* ''VisualNovel/YourTurnToDie'': Sou Hiyori is the gloomy loner in the group. Through the bulk of the first two rounds, he's nothing but antagonistic to the other players, especially Sara. He uses Kanna for his own gain and lies constantly, not to mention how he's the one who [[spoiler:gave Joe the Sacrifice card in the first Main Game]]. But like all of the other participants, Sou was kidnapped and placed into a deadly game and is just trying to survive. He's just as crushed as anyone when [[spoiler:his attempt to help them all escape ends in failure.]] It's also revealed that [[spoiler:during his first trial, he learned the victory rates of the other candidates and that his was 0% -- from the very beginning, he knew that the group was going to inevitably vote him out and kill him. His distrust of the main group and especially Sara, who has the highest victory rate, is at least understandable.]]]]
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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuses to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from the others in any way for their qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuses [[FreudianExcuse to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them the others in any way for their qualities]], qualities if these qualities did not conform to ideal canons]], resulting as a consequence [[FreudianExcuses to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter daughter]] not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
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** Rosa Ushiromiya. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her regardless (of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** [[TroubledAbuser Rosa Ushiromiya. Ushiromiya]]. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her regardless (of (regardless of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
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** Rosa Ushiromiya. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMother who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her regardless (of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** Rosa Ushiromiya. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMother AbusiveMom who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her regardless (of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
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** Rosa Ushiromiya. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMother who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her regardless (of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSon siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].

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** Rosa Ushiromiya. Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMother who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her regardless (of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSon [[WellDoneSonGuy siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this legendary witch who lived in the forest of the island that would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
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** Rosa Ushiromiya. It's pretty hard to deny just how screwed up her life is, and, at least as far as we know at this point, how relatively little of it is her fault. Of course, it doesn't change the fact that [[AbusiveParents she treats her daughter, Maria, miserably]].
** Eva Ushiromiya. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]].

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** Rosa Ushiromiya. It's pretty Presented from the beginning and constantly as an AbusiveMother who [[ParentalNeglect neglects her 9 year old daughter]] half the time while in the other she does not hesitate to fill her with slaps and blows the other when Maria disobeys her regardless (of whether she does it on purpose or less). So it didn't take long for [[HateSink many readers to hate her]]. However, as the story goes on, as her personality deepens, interesting backstories about her are revealed; starting first of all by saying that she is a StrugglingSingleMother who became such after Maria's father deceived her into signing a loan to finance his business trip and leave her alone while she was still pregnant without ever returning, consequently forcing her to work very hard in the over the next few years in an attempt to deny just how screwed raise the money needed to pay off all debts. As if that weren't enough, she was born under the black star of all those children who grew up in families with numerous [[WellDoneSon siblings who were extremely talented and dedicated to pleasing the exaggerated expectations of their icy parents]], [[SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome without being able to distinguish themselves from them in any way for their qualities]], resulting as a consequence to being abused in the same way as nowadays she abuses her life is, and, at least daughter not only by her father Kinzo and [[EducationMama her mother]], but also by [[BigBrotherBully her older siblings Krauss, Eva and Rudolf to the point that even now that they are all 4 adults who they contend for the inheritance of the family, Rosa is seen and treated as far as we know at the outsider and constantly belittled and derided]]. Not to mention that the reason why she is a FantasyForbiddingMother and she reacts particularly badly when Maria talks about witches and Beatrice is because Kinzo raised her by traumatizing her with the legend of this point, how relatively little of it is her fault. Of course, it doesn't change legendary witch who lived in the fact forest of the island that [[AbusiveParents would have punished her if Rosa went and looked for her [[spoiler:and also because when she treats actually met and befriended Beatrice as an adolescent, she then innocently induced her daughter, Maria, miserably]].
to climb down a cliff during their escape from their sadly lives which ended with the tragic death of the witch girl]].
** Eva Ushiromiya. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, her younger sister and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]].
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Eva-Beatrice is not really a literal split personality but a conglomerate of all the theories on which Tohya's first fanfiction book is based, which is then used by Beatrice to create the third game with Battler. In addition to embodying Ange's fantasy view of her belief that her aunt is indeed a murderous psychopath. As for the illustration, to be honest whoever created it is VERY biased as it tends to sanctify the character of Eve too much at the expense of Natsuhi for example. Eva did not have an easy life but there are those who have suffered by far as much or more than her such as Natsuhi and especially her sister Rosa (whom Eva herself has greatly contributed to actively take part in harming her) to whom I see that she has nothing more than 2 lines compared to this bitch.
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Eva-Beatrice is not really a literal split personality but a conglomerate of all the theories on which Tohya's first fanfiction book is based, which is then used by Beatrice to create the third game with Battler. In addition to embodying Ange's fantasy view of her belief that her aunt is indeed a murderous psychopath.


** Eva Ushiromiya. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]]. Not to mention that she has a power-hungry LiteralSplitPersonality who loves to make her suffer. Eva's life [[BreakTheHaughty SUCKS]]. Perfectly illustrated [[http://shroedinger.deviantart.com/#/d2z8f75 here]].

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** Eva Ushiromiya. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath]]. Not to mention that she has a power-hungry LiteralSplitPersonality who loves to make her suffer. Eva's life [[BreakTheHaughty SUCKS]]. Perfectly illustrated [[http://shroedinger.deviantart.com/#/d2z8f75 here]].
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I feel like Kiritsugu is like a bizarre inverted version, if anything, where we get his sympathetic traits first and then see how he took them too far into jerkass territory.


** From LightNovel/FateZero: Kiritsugu Emiya.
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** Shock also qualifies as he [[spoiler: lost not only Klace but Rocker as well.]]

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** Shock also qualifies as he [[spoiler: lost not only Klace but Rocker as well.]]
* ''VisualNovel/YourTurnToDie'': Sou Hiyori is the gloomy loner in the group. Through the bulk of the first two rounds, he's nothing but antagonistic to the other players, especially Sara. He uses Kanna for his own gain and lies constantly, not to mention how he's the one who [[spoiler:gave Joe the Sacrifice card in the first Main Game]]. But like all of the other participants, Sou was kidnapped and placed into a deadly game and is just trying to survive. He's just as crushed as anyone when [[spoiler:his attempt to help them all escape ends in failure.]] It's also revealed that [[spoiler:during his first trial, he learned the victory rates of the other candidates and that his was 0% -- from the very beginning, he knew that the group was going to inevitably vote him out and kill him. His distrust of the main group and especially Sara, who has the highest victory rate, is at least understandable.
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** Shock also qualifies as he [[spoiler: lost not only Klace but Rocker as well.]]
* The ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae'' side story ''Interview with Kaziklu Bey'' managed to turn [[AxCrazy Wilhelm]] [[BloodKnight Ehrenburg]] into one of these. He ends up meeting with a girl named Claudia who is an albino just like him and who houses an incredibly powerful soul. Due to this he decides to go against his usual routine killing what annoys him and instead keeps her around so that he can kill her when her soul becomes the most radiant. Over the course of the story however he ends up developing genuine feelings for her and even starts to show some hidden sides of himself to her. [[spoiler:This all ends in tragedy in a truly devilish case of BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor as Claudia is granted her wish of light and her soul is the most radiant, resulting in an out of control Creation Figment that threatens to kill both of them. It ends with Claudia committing a HeroicSacrifice in order to save Wilhelm from herself, and in turn, robbing him of his one love and the soul he so craved. In the aftermath as he lies on the ground bloodied and broken, he can't help but curse his fate and engage in bitter laughter over how it all turned out]].

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** Shock also qualifies as he [[spoiler: lost not only Klace but Rocker as well.]]
* The ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae'' side story ''Interview with Kaziklu Bey'' managed to turn [[AxCrazy Wilhelm]] [[BloodKnight Ehrenburg]] into one of these. He ends up meeting with a girl named Claudia who is an albino just like him and who houses an incredibly powerful soul. Due to this he decides to go against his usual routine killing what annoys him and instead keeps her around so that he can kill her when her soul becomes the most radiant. Over the course of the story however he ends up developing genuine feelings for her and even starts to show some hidden sides of himself to her. [[spoiler:This all ends in tragedy in a truly devilish case of BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor as Claudia is granted her wish of light and her soul is the most radiant, resulting in an out of control Creation Figment that threatens to kill both of them. It ends with Claudia committing a HeroicSacrifice in order to save Wilhelm from herself, and in turn, robbing him of his one love and the soul he so craved. In the aftermath as he lies on the ground bloodied and broken, he can't help but curse his fate and engage in bitter laughter over how it all turned out]].
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** Shock also qualifies as he [[spoiler: lost not only Klace but Rocker as well.]]

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* The ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae'' side story ''Interview with Kaziklu Bey'' managed to turn [[AxCrazy Wilhelm]] [[BloodKnight Ehrenburg]] into one of these. He ends up meeting with a girl named Claudia who is an albino just like him and who houses an incredibly powerful soul. Due to this he decides to go against his usual routine killing what annoys him and instead keeps her around so that he can kill her when her soul becomes the most radiant. Over the course of the story however he ends up developing genuine feelings for her and even starts to show some hidden sides of himself to her. [[spoiler:This all ends in tragedy in a truly devilish case of BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor as Claudia is granted her wish of light and her soul is the most radiant, resulting in an out of control Creation Figment that threatens to kill both of them. It ends with Claudia committing a HeroicSacrifice in order to save Wilhelm from herself, and in turn, robbing him of his one love and the soul he so craved. In the aftermath as he lies on the ground bloodied and broken, he can't help but curse his fate and engage in bitter laughter over how it all turned out]].

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* ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'' has the Warriors of Hope. They're a group of 5 children that indiscriminately murder defenseless adults and teenagers as a game. Each one has also suffered prolonged, harsh parental abuse and/or neglect to the point where [[spoiler:they had to be saved from ''attempting mutual suicide''.]]

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* ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'' has the ''VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls'':
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Warriors of Hope. They're Hope are a group of 5 children that indiscriminately murder defenseless adults and teenagers as a game. Each one has also suffered prolonged, harsh parental abuse and/or neglect to the point where [[spoiler:they had to be saved from ''attempting mutual suicide''.]]



* After the second chapter ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'', Fuyuhiko becomes this after [[spoiler: he finds out that his sister was dead and his best friend [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Peko]] gets executed for murdering his sister's killer's accomplice on what she believed to be [[JustFollowingOrders his orders]].]]
* In VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3, we have Miu Iruma, who is crude, obnoxious and is TheFriendNobodyLikes. However, Kaede notes that while Miu has NoSocialSkills, she isn't actively malicious and merely blurts out whatever she's thinking without filtering herself. This personality drives people away from her, but because Miu has a FriendlessBackground, she has no idea how grating people find her. On top of that, beneath her LargeHam behaviour, she's actually a ShrinkingViolet who adopted her personality to protect herself from bullies, but it doesn't take much to make her panic and revert back to her timid ways. [[spoiler: Her death is a result of trying to kill Kokichi in the Virtual World, only for him to find out and counter it by having Gonta kill her. However, Miu's goals were actually noble as she wanted to get to the outside world to help people she believed were suffering and her paranoid tendencies had lead her to become increasingly mistrustful of her fellow students. Had she more friends outside of Ki-bo, she may not have gone through with her attempt at all.]]

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* After the second chapter ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'', ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'', Fuyuhiko becomes this after [[spoiler: he finds out that his sister was dead and his best friend [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Peko]] gets executed for murdering his sister's killer's accomplice on what she believed to be [[JustFollowingOrders his orders]].]]
* In VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3, VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony, we have Miu Iruma, who is crude, obnoxious and is TheFriendNobodyLikes. However, Kaede notes that while Miu has NoSocialSkills, she isn't actively malicious and merely blurts out whatever she's thinking without filtering herself. This personality drives people away from her, but because Miu has a FriendlessBackground, she has no idea how grating people find her. On top of that, beneath her LargeHam behaviour, she's actually a ShrinkingViolet who adopted her personality to protect herself from bullies, but it doesn't take much to make her panic and revert back to her timid ways. [[spoiler: Her death is a result of trying to kill Kokichi in the Virtual World, only for him to find out and counter it by having Gonta kill her. However, Miu's goals were actually noble as she wanted to get to the outside world to help people she believed were suffering and her paranoid tendencies had lead her to become increasingly mistrustful of her fellow students. Had she more friends outside of Ki-bo, she may not have gone through with her attempt at all.]]
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** A good portion of the characters in Umineko qualify as this actually, as most are abused and broken down by life while still remaining in some way awful. Rosa, Natsuhi, Eva, Krauss, even [[spoiler:Bern, Lambda, Erika,]] and especially [[spoiler:Beatrice/Yasu/Shannon]] are perhaps the best examples.

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** A good portion of the characters in Umineko qualify as this actually, as most are abused and broken down by life while still remaining in some way awful. Rosa, Natsuhi, Eva, Krauss, even [[spoiler:Bern, Lambda, [[spoiler:Lambda, Erika,]] and especially [[spoiler:Beatrice/Yasu/Shannon]] are perhaps the best examples.
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** [[spoiler:Beatrice]] has turned into this, starting out as [[spoiler:the CardCarryingVillain of the series, gloating over new ways to sadistically kill Battler's family and screw with his head]] before gradually losing her dignity and becoming one of the biggest [[TheWoobie Woobies]] in the series apart from [[spoiler: Natsuhi.]] For starters, at the end of [=Ep4=], [[spoiler: she is impaled with several blue wedges but cannot die because Lambdadelta has shackled her to the game for all eternity.]] As a result, in the beginning of [=Ep5=], [[spoiler: she becomes an {{empty shell}} who can't do ''anything'' by herself -- she can't eat or speak, hell, she can't even ''lift up a cup of tea.'']] And to make matters worse, [[spoiler: when Battler tries to come up with an explanation to the mysteries that denies the involvement of magic, she suffers. Bernkastel, being the [[SarcasmMode charming]] person that she is, makes a point of saying so.]] And to top it all off, [[spoiler: after having her former title stripped, she is sentenced to a rather [[CruelAndUnusualDeath horrible death]] by Lambdadelta and Bernkastel, and tries to go down laughing but ends up sounding like a human denying agony (which, sadly enough, she is), and even when Battler steps in to save her, he loses, and she begs him to not leave her alive.]] And who could forget [[spoiler: her touching death scene?]] And then, in [=Ep6=], after [[spoiler: being revived with no memories of her former self or her game with Battler, she gets treated like dirt by Battler all because she doesn't act like the Beatrice he knew.]] It's all you can do to not want to give her a hug. Not to mention, she was [[spoiler:actually helping Battler all along, and just wanted him to figure out the mystery and remember his promise to her.]] Episode 7 puts all of the above in the perspective and only ups her {{Woobie}}-ness aspect UpToEleven.
** Rosa Ushiromiya. It's pretty hard to deny just how screwed up her life is, and, at least as far as we know at this point, how relatively little of it is her fault. Of course, it doesn't change the fact that she treats her daughter, Maria, miserably.
** Eva Ushiromiya. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler: Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath.]] Not to mention that she has a power-hungry LiteralSplitPersonality who loves to make her suffer. Eva's life [[BreakTheHaughty SUCKS]]. Perfectly illustrated [[http://shroedinger.deviantart.com/#/d2z8f75 here]].
** A good portion of the characters in Umineko qualify as this actually, as most are abused and broken down by life while still remaining in some way awful. Lambda, Erika, Rosa, Natsuhi, Eva, Krauss, and especially Beatrice[[spoiler: /Yasu/Shannon]] are perhaps the best examples.

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** [[spoiler:Beatrice]] [[spoiler:[[DiscOneFinalBoss Beatrice]]]] has turned into this, starting out as [[spoiler:the CardCarryingVillain BigBad of the series, gloating over new ways to sadistically kill Battler's [[TheHero Battler]]’s family and screw with his head]] before gradually losing her dignity and becoming one of the biggest [[TheWoobie Woobies]] in the series apart from [[spoiler: Natsuhi.]] Natsuhi]]. For starters, at the end of [=Ep4=], [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she is impaled with several blue wedges but cannot die because Lambdadelta [[ManBehindTheMan Lambdadelta]] has shackled her to the game for all eternity.]] As a result, in the beginning of [=Ep5=], [[spoiler: she becomes an {{empty shell}} EmptyShell who can't do ''anything'' by herself -- she can't eat or speak, hell, she can't even ''lift up a cup of tea.'']] tea'']]. And to make matters worse, [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when Battler tries to come up with an explanation to the mysteries that denies the involvement of magic, she suffers. Bernkastel, [[{{Sadist}} Bernkastel]], being the [[SarcasmMode charming]] person that she is, makes a point of saying so.]] so]]. [[FromBadToWorse And to top it all off, [[spoiler: after off]], [[spoiler:after having her former title stripped, she is sentenced to a rather [[CruelAndUnusualDeath horrible death]] by [[BigBadDuumvirate Lambdadelta and Bernkastel, Bernkastel]], and tries to go down laughing but ends up sounding like a human denying agony (which, sadly enough, she is), and even when Battler steps in to save her, he loses, and she begs him to not leave her alive.]] alive]]. And who could forget [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her touching death scene?]] scene]]? And then, in [=Ep6=], after [[spoiler: being revived with no memories of her former self or her game with Battler, she gets treated like dirt by Battler all because she doesn't act like the Beatrice he knew.]] knew]]. It's all you can do to not want to give her the poor creature a hug. Not to mention, she [[spoiler:she was [[spoiler:actually actually helping Battler all along, and just wanted him to figure out the mystery and remember his promise to her.]] her]]. Episode 7 puts all of the above in the perspective and only ups her the {{Woobie}}-ness aspect UpToEleven.
** Rosa Ushiromiya. It's pretty hard to deny just how screwed up her life is, and, at least as far as we know at this point, how relatively little of it is her fault. Of course, it doesn't change the fact that [[AbusiveParents she treats her daughter, Maria, miserably.
miserably]].
** Eva Ushiromiya. She treats Natsuhi, her long-suffering sister-in-law, and Shannon, the object of her son's affections, like crap...and then we get flashbacked to her youth and find out that she pretty much got the ''exact same'' treatment from [[AbusiveParents Kinzo]], right down to the [[HarsherInHindsight "borrowed womb"]] speech she gave to Natsuhi. She's one of the few siblings who is HappilyMarried and adores her son, but in half of the murders, she loses one or both of them and utterly snaps. In the BadFuture of 1998, not only is she suspected of murdering her family (being the sole survivor of Rokkenjima), but [[spoiler: Bernkastel [[spoiler:Bernkastel manipulates her relationship with Ange; Eva treats Ange like crap to hide the truth about her parents, and dies with Ange thinking that she's a selfish psychopath.]] psychopath]]. Not to mention that she has a power-hungry LiteralSplitPersonality who loves to make her suffer. Eva's life [[BreakTheHaughty SUCKS]]. Perfectly illustrated [[http://shroedinger.deviantart.com/#/d2z8f75 here]].
** A good portion of the characters in Umineko qualify as this actually, as most are abused and broken down by life while still remaining in some way awful. Lambda, Erika, Rosa, Natsuhi, Eva, Krauss, even [[spoiler:Bern, Lambda, Erika,]] and especially Beatrice[[spoiler: /Yasu/Shannon]] [[spoiler:Beatrice/Yasu/Shannon]] are perhaps the best examples.
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** From the same game, Hugh O' Connor. He starts out as your typical {{Jerkass}} insufferable TeenGenius, only to reveal later [[spoiler: he's not a Teen or a genius. In fact, he's really 25 and failed so badly he had to repeat his final year of school for ''seven'' whole years, until his parents got fed up with him failing and started bribing the teacher who at first we think is Constance Courte, the victim, but is later revealed to be [[AmoralAttorney Aristotle]] [[SadistTeacher Means]]. And having a teacher like that would screw ''anyone'' up.]]
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* In VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3, we have Miu Iruma, who is crude, obnoxious and is TheFriendNobodyLikes. However, Kaede notes that while Miu has NoSocialSkills, she isn't actively malicious and merely blurts out whatever she's thinking without filtering herself. This personality drives people away from her, but because Miu has a FriendlessBackground, she has no idea how grating people find her. On top of that, beneath her LargeHam behaviour, she's actually a ShrinkingViolet who adopted her personality to protect herself from bullies, but it doesn't take much to make her panic and revert back to her timid ways. [[spoiler: Her death is a result of trying to kill Kokichi in the Virtual World, only for him to find out and counter it by having Gonta kill her. However, Miu's goals were actually noble as she wanted to get to the outside world to help people she believed were suffering and her paranoid tendencies had lead her to become increasingly mistrustful of her fellow students. Had she more friends outside of Ki-bo, she may not have gone through with her attempt at all.]]

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