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Removing this as well since, as the example already noted, Torterra actually got in the way of Staravia's attacks.


** When Ash praises Staravia during the Tag Team Tournament after Paul's Torterra defeats Brock and Holly, Paul sarcastically asks Ash if they even did anything. While rude to say, it's not inaccurate as Torterra single handedly defeated both of their opponents. Downplayed though, given that it was Torterra's attacks blocking Staravia that prevented it from even landing a hit.
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Since Grotle played an active role in winning Ash the Gym battle, this is definitely not an example.


** In one episode, he criticized Ash for using his Grotle, a Grass-type Pokémon against an Ice-type in his Gym battle against Candice. Considering the type advantage and the fact that it doesn't have any moves that are Super Effective against Ice-types, Paul's complaint wasn't without merit.
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Deleting this per character sheet of the rivals.


* In her first appearance, Georgia even called out Iris for not having a lot of Dragon type Pokémon in her party. Considering how Iris wants to be a dragon master, Georgia’s comment wasn’t without merit.
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This isn't necessary. It goes on the hypocrite subpage.


** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togepi were both lackluster under her handling regarding her training, yet she would lambast Ash for his poor training regime).

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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togepi were both lackluster under her handling regarding her training, yet she would lambast Ash for his poor training regime).be.
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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togepi were both lackluster under her handling regarding her training).

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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togepi were both lackluster under her handling regarding her training).training, yet she would lambast Ash for his poor training regime).
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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togepi were both lackluster under her handling).

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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togepi were both lackluster under her handling).handling regarding her training).
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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togekiss were both lackluster under her handling).

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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be (that and Psyduck and Togekiss Togepi were both lackluster under her handling).
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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be.

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** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be. be (that and Psyduck and Togekiss were both lackluster under her handling).
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I feel Paul was just not taking responsibility for the fact that despite the type advantage, he underestimated Roarkk


** He justifies giving away his Azumarill claiming it was dead weight. Seeing as his Azumarill lost to a Geodude despite not only having a type advantage, but hitting it with ''Hydro Pump'', his analysis might've been fair.
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** While he wasn't being nice to Misty, he pointed out that he was attempting to be nice--she was the one refusing to let the fact he accidentally fried her bike go and being mean to him for something he promised to rectify.
** Likewise, when he lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be.

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** While he wasn't being nice to Misty, he pointed out that he was attempting to be nice--she was the one refusing to let the fact he accidentally fried her bike (expensive or not) go and being mean to him for something he promised to rectify.
** Likewise, when he mortifyingly lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be.

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** When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through. This contributes to some major CharacterDevelopment for Ash, as he starts taking his training much more seriously and places higher in future league tournaments. [[spoiler:He even eventually becomes the Alola League Champion]].

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** When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through. This contributes to some major CharacterDevelopment for Ash, as he starts taking his training much more seriously and places higher in future league tournaments. [[spoiler:He even eventually becomes the Alola League Champion]].Champion, and later the World Champion]].
* Ash, during his more immature phase, also gets his share of these:
** While he wasn't being nice to Misty, he pointed out that he was attempting to be nice--she was the one refusing to let the fact he accidentally fried her bike go and being mean to him for something he promised to rectify.
** Likewise, when he lost the Indigo League, he calls Misty a {{Hypocrite}} for chewing him out for his poor performance, as she could be just as haughty, lazy, and vain as he could be.
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** He rudely insults Maylene after [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] her in battle, calling her the weakest Gym Leader he'd ever fought. Cruel as it was, though, Maylene herself admitted he was right -- she and her Pokémon were completely out of sync.

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** He justifies giving away his Azumarill claiming it was dead weight. Seeing as his Azumarill lost to a Geodude despite not only having a type advantage, but hitting it with ''Hydro Pump'', his analysis might've been fair.
** When Ash praises Staravia during the Tag Team Tournament after Paul's Torterra defeats Brock and Holly, Paul sarcastically asks Ash if they even did anything. While rude to say, it's not inaccurate as Torterra single handedly defeated both of their opponents. Downplayed though, given that it was Torterra's attacks blocking Staravia that prevented it from even landing a hit.
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** When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through. This contributes to some major CharacterDevelopment for Ash, as he starts taking his training much more seriously and places higher in future league tournaments.

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** When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through. This contributes to some major CharacterDevelopment for Ash, as he starts taking his training much more seriously and places higher in future league tournaments. [[spoiler:He even eventually becomes the Alola League Champion]].

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** When he meets Ash at the Sinnoh League, Ash claims he'll be giving it all he's got in their battle. Paul states that ''everyone'' participating has gotten all 8 badges too, so going all out against him and the other trainers Ash is battling amounts next to nothing. Even Ash admitted that Paul was right.

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** When he meets Ash at the Sinnoh League, Ash claims he'll be giving it all he's got in their battle. Paul states that ''everyone'' participating has gotten all 8 badges too, so going all out against him and the other trainers Ash is battling amounts next to nothing. Even Ash admitted The thing that Paul was right.most often gets on Ash's case about is his blind reliance on ThePowerOfFriendship, to the point where he actively chooses it ''over'' strategy or rational thought (far too often does Ash persist against blatantly outmatched odds solely because he believes in himself). A large part of Ash's development in Sinnoh is learning to balance his beliefs with Paul's.
** Paul also eggs Ash on about training Chimchar to master its Blaze ability, which Ash refuses to do knowing the [[DarkAndTroubledPast trauma]] associated with it. While Ash is just looking out for Chimchar's health, [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Paul's comments about Blaze aren't exactly unfounded either]]: as Chimchar goes [[UnstoppableRage completely berserk]] when the ability is activated, there's no way Ash will reach its full potential without getting that power under control. By the end of the series, Ash does essentially validate this belief by using a now-mastered Blaze to defeat Paul, albeit mastering it through ThePowerOfFriendship rather than Paul's TrainingFromHell.



** During the Sinnoh League episodes, he also tells Barry that overestimating his abilities will only backfire on him. [[spoiler:Paul is proven right when Barry gets curb-stomped HARD by Paul]].
* In ''Best Wishes 2'', in the eliminatories of the Junior World Cup, FieryRedhead Georgia and her Beartic suffer a CurbStompBattle at the hands of [[TheLancer Iris]] and her exceptionally powerful Dragonite, which had decided to join Iris' team on his own accord just in the previous episode. The former tells her that she didn't win by her own merits, but because of her Pokemon's strength (especially since Dragonite wasn't obeying her at all). While she's often a SoreLoser, her argument makes perfect sense - that instead of relying on Pokémon that she trained and fought alongside, she's just using a last-minute super-weapon she just found. It also helps that a battle should demonstrate a bond between trainer and Pokémon. It comes to a head when she battles Ash; she and Dragonite seem to finally be working together until Ash's Krokorok evolves into Krookodile and gains the upper-hand. Dragonite starts disobeying again and goes on a bit of a rampage which leads into an embarrassing loss for Iris, which makes Georgia extremely pleased to have been proven right. Iris acknowledges this at the end of the tournament and promises Georgia that she'll have Dragonite under control by the next time they meet, so that Georgia can have the battle she wants.

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** When he meets Ash at the Sinnoh League, Ash claims he'll be giving it all he's got in their battle. Paul states that ''everyone'' participating has gotten all 8 badges too, so going all out against him and the other trainers Ash is battling amounts next to nothing. Even Ash admitted that Paul was right.
** During the Sinnoh League episodes, he also tells Barry that overestimating his abilities will only backfire on him. [[spoiler:Paul Paul is proven right when Barry gets curb-stomped HARD by Paul]].
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* In ''Best Wishes 2'', Wishes'', in the eliminatories first round of the Junior World Cup, Cup tournament, FieryRedhead Georgia and her Beartic suffer a CurbStompBattle at the hands of [[TheLancer Iris]] and her exceptionally powerful Dragonite, which had decided to join Iris' team on of his own accord just in the previous episode. The former Georgia tells her Iris that she didn't actually win by her own merits, the battle, but because of her Pokemon's strength (especially since that ''Dragonite'' had won all on his own, as Dragonite wasn't obeying her at all). all. While she's Georgia's often a SoreLoser, her argument makes perfect sense - -- that instead of relying on Pokémon that she trained and fought alongside, she's just using a last-minute super-weapon she just found. It also helps that a battle should demonstrate a bond between trainer and Pokémon. It comes to a head when she battles Ash; she and Dragonite seem to finally be working together until Ash's Krokorok evolves into Krookodile and gains the upper-hand.upper hand. Dragonite starts disobeying again and goes on a bit of a rampage which leads into an embarrassing loss for Iris, which makes Georgia extremely pleased to have been proven right. Iris acknowledges this at the end of the tournament and promises Georgia that she'll have Dragonite under control by the next time they meet, so that Georgia can have the battle she wants.
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** In one episode, he criticized Ash for using his Grotle, a Grass-type Pokémon against an Ice-type in his Gym battle against Candice. Considering the type advantage, Paul's complaint wasn't without merit.

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** In one episode, he criticized Ash for using his Grotle, a Grass-type Pokémon against an Ice-type in his Gym battle against Candice. Considering the type advantage, advantage and the fact that it doesn't have any moves that are Super Effective against Ice-types, Paul's complaint wasn't without merit.

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* Misty is right to get angry with Ash some of the time, especially since he did destroy her bike which probably costs a lot of money in the Pokémon world. Also, Ash can be a jerk to her too.
* When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through. This contributes to some major CharacterDevelopment for Ash, as he starts taking his training much more seriously and places higher in future league tournaments.

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* Misty has two cases:
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Misty is right to get angry with Ash some of the time, especially since he did destroy her bike which probably costs a lot of money in the Pokémon world. Also, Ash can be a jerk to her too.
* ** When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through. This contributes to some major CharacterDevelopment for Ash, as he starts taking his training much more seriously and places higher in future league tournaments.



** In the episode "Evolution With Fire," she criticizes Ash's Tepig for being too nice regarding its former {{jerkass}} of a trainer. Iris is proven right when Snivy tries to verbally talk some sense into Tepig [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan and also by using Vine Whip on it]].

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** In the episode "Evolution With Fire," she criticizes Ash's Tepig for being too nice regarding its former {{jerkass}} of a trainer. Iris is proven right when Snivy tries to verbally talk some sense into Tepig [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan and also by using Vine Whip on it]].it]].
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That’s not Paul making a good point. That’s just him being a braggart and Ash getting called out on his hypocrisy.


** Paul gets into an argument with Ash, pointing out that Ash once criticized Paul for entering a competition for the sole purpose of gaining experience for gym battles, yet Ash did the same thing when he entered Buizel into the Wallace Cup. Ash tries to retort that, when he and Paul were partners in the tag-team competition, Paul only cared about himself while Ash was trying to win. But Paul shoots back that, despite his selfish motivations, he still won, while Ash failed to win the Wallace Cup.
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* When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through.

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* When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through. This contributes to some major CharacterDevelopment for Ash, as he starts taking his training much more seriously and places higher in future league tournaments.
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**Paul gets into an argument with Ash, pointing out that Ash once criticized Paul for entering a competition for the sole purpose of gaining experience for gym battles, yet Ash did the same thing when he entered Buizel into the Wallace Cup. Ash tries to retort that, when he and Paul were partners in the tag-team competition, Paul only cared about himself while Ash was trying to win. But Paul shoots back that, despite his selfish motivations, he still won, while Ash failed to win the Wallace Cup.
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* In the very first season [[CharacterOfTheDay Giselle]] acts as a bully and a jerk during her whole episode, but [[LovableAlphaBitch all her bullying consists in supplying very useful advice in a very harsh and backhanded way]]. Advice that Ash ''actually follows'' (she had criticized his Pikachu for having electric attacks only and not taking advantage of his speed. Five episode later, Pikachu uses Quick Attack to win Ash a badge).
* Misty is right to get angry with Ash some of the time, especially since he did destroy her bike which probably costs a lot of money in the Pokémon world. Also, Ash can be a jerk to her too.
* When she and Ash get into an argument when the latter mopes about his loss at the Indigo League, Misty makes a good argument that Ash should have been lucky to have even made it far in the Indigo League with the way he was training. She’s right, considering how lazy Ash became and only relied on luck to make it through.
* Paul:
** When he meets Ash at the Sinnoh League, Ash claims he'll be giving it all he's got in their battle. Paul states that ''everyone'' participating has gotten all 8 badges too, so going all out against him and the other trainers Ash is battling amounts next to nothing. Even Ash admitted that Paul was right.
** In one episode, he criticized Ash for using his Grotle, a Grass-type Pokémon against an Ice-type in his Gym battle against Candice. Considering the type advantage, Paul's complaint wasn't without merit.
** Barry keeps praising the Sunyshore Gym as one of the best which Paul criticizes as undeserving. It's later revealed the Sunyshore Gym Leader gave badges without a challenge of any sort. Ash effectively agrees with Paul by demanding a proper battle.
** During the Sinnoh League episodes, he also tells Barry that overestimating his abilities will only backfire on him. [[spoiler:Paul is proven right when Barry gets curb-stomped HARD by Paul]].
* In ''Best Wishes 2'', in the eliminatories of the Junior World Cup, FieryRedhead Georgia and her Beartic suffer a CurbStompBattle at the hands of [[TheLancer Iris]] and her exceptionally powerful Dragonite, which had decided to join Iris' team on his own accord just in the previous episode. The former tells her that she didn't win by her own merits, but because of her Pokemon's strength (especially since Dragonite wasn't obeying her at all). While she's often a SoreLoser, her argument makes perfect sense - that instead of relying on Pokémon that she trained and fought alongside, she's just using a last-minute super-weapon she just found. It also helps that a battle should demonstrate a bond between trainer and Pokémon. It comes to a head when she battles Ash; she and Dragonite seem to finally be working together until Ash's Krokorok evolves into Krookodile and gains the upper-hand. Dragonite starts disobeying again and goes on a bit of a rampage which leads into an embarrassing loss for Iris, which makes Georgia extremely pleased to have been proven right. Iris acknowledges this at the end of the tournament and promises Georgia that she'll have Dragonite under control by the next time they meet, so that Georgia can have the battle she wants.
* In her first appearance, Georgia even called out Iris for not having a lot of Dragon type Pokémon in her party. Considering how Iris wants to be a dragon master, Georgia’s comment wasn’t without merit.
* Despite being condescending, Iris has a few points:
** Iris gets flak for calling Ash a kid, but she's right to criticize him sometimes when he acts very childish (for example, Ash purposely using a Pokemon against another Pokemon that has a type advantage over his ...it helps that other characters such as Paul and Brock have called Ash out on this habit too). Even Cilan took her side one time.
** In the episode "Evolution With Fire," she criticizes Ash's Tepig for being too nice regarding its former {{jerkass}} of a trainer. Iris is proven right when Snivy tries to verbally talk some sense into Tepig [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan and also by using Vine Whip on it]].

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