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* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.
* Subverted in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'', where it turns out that despite accusations of ignorant peasants, beastmen are mutated by Chaos and not born of a beast and a human (in fact, the beastmen view the idea with as much disgust as humans do).

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Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, Fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir Fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.
* ** Subverted in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'', with the Beastmen, where it turns out that despite accusations of ignorant peasants, beastmen Beastmen are mutated by Chaos and not born of a beast and a human (in fact, the beastmen Beastmen view the idea with as much disgust as humans do).do).
** There's a surprisingly large amount of this going on between elves and humans, especially considering [[SmugSuper elves generally look down upon other races]] and that cohabitation between the two species is limited to Laurelorn Forest, some Bretonnia-Loren border communities, and a handful of major cities with mixed species districts (mostly traders). Some examples:
*** The Roleplay book ''Sold Down The River'' has a side story about the High Elf Immarana and Imperial human Adalbart Hensch-mann, who are lovers with particularly bigoted parents. How their story ends is up to the DM.
** In the same book, the Wood Elf Trancas co-owns a business with the human ex-sergeant Morgaine Bauersdottir, and it is noted offhand that they are both best friends and lovers. Trancas's description also notes that interested human women occasionally proposition him [[IncompatibleOrientation to no avail]]; implying that such a thing isn't unthinkable in the first place.
*** The Roleplay 2e Character Compendium has a character named Hugo Dorshield. He was one of the few humans the Wood Elves trusted, which made him their go-between for trade with Quenelles. At some time in that position he and a Wood Elf woman became lovers. A xenophobic baron then forbade "consorting" between elves and humans (implying that happened often enough that he had to make a law against it, even among the xenophobic peoples of Athel Loren and Bretonnia), which led to the death of Dorshield's lover, after which he took up a vengeance crusade against the baron alongside some Wood Elf friends.
*** One of the lead characters in "Gilead's Blood" is a half-elf; his mother was an unnamed human, and his father was the High Elf Nithrom.
*** The WFB 2e book "Blood Bath at Orc's Drift" has a description of the event "F'yar's Revenge" where a prince named Laeron leads a mixed-species coalition to defeat various goblin armies and becomes the King of the Grand League of Ramalia. Said prince is referred to as half human and half elf, and his high position implies his parents were of similarly high status.
*** In the Roleplay 4e book "Power Behind the Throne", Middenheim's elven bard Rallane has occasional dalliances with human women, was in a serious relationship with one, and is "hopelessly infatuated" with the elector-count's daughter, though he knows such a relationship would never be allowed by the count and she doesn't seem to regard him the same way.
* ''TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar'': the most numerous "good guys" in the series, those of the Free Cities of Sigmar, are composed of multiple species that have been cohabiting for thousands of years since before the Age of Myth. Thus it's expected that such relationships have happened as they did in ''Fantasy'', particularly among aelves and humans.
** Human Freeguild corporal Armand Callis and aelven AdventureArchaeologist Shevanya Arclis spend many months living together as lovers in the aftermath of "Callis and Toll: The Silver Shard."
** In his titular series, the aelven "Autumn Prince" takes a human woman as his wife, only to fall into despair when [[WeAreAsMayflies he inevitably outlives her.]] He still carries around her skull in his travels, while looking for a way to revive her.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'':
** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "[=---=] This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die". (Direct quote.))
** The game has rules for various types of "God-Blooded," beings with one normal mortal parent and one Exalted or non-human parent. That parent may be an Exalt, a faerie, demon, a god, an elemental, or even a ghost. Sex, let alone breeding with, anything besides a Dragon-Blood is taboo in Realm culture, and interspecies pairings are frowned upon by the Celestial Bureaucracy and many other cultures. But plenty of gods give the finger to their superiors and plenty of cultists like to summon demons for disturbing uses. For ghosts, reproduction requires an obscure and hard-to-learn power. Gods, Lunars, faeries, demon-worshippers, and Deathlords all value God-Blooded as useful minions (or slaves) with a measure of their parents' abilities but not nearly enough power to pose any threat to their creator or owner. They may also lack their non-human parents' frailties, such as Fae-blooded and Half-demons who can live in Creation indefinitely without problems. Lunars also like to spawn whole armies of Beastmen, since their own numbers are so limited.
** Interestingly, some God-Blooded are born to parents who subvert this trope; some gods have ways of reproducing that don't involve anything remotely resembling sex, especially those with totally non-human anatomy. If you get pregnant from inhaling magic pollen, does it really count as romance?
* ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' only hints at the possibility of interspecies romances in the main book. However the main character of the novel ''Scars'' is the daughter of a grey fox noble and a red fox servant, and a raccoon has an unrequited crush on her. And the Book of Jade supplement has a legend of an ill-fated romance between a dragon prince and a peasant vixen; the dragon was killed by his jealous brother and the vixen turned herself into a dragon through force of will to avenge him, then she laid nine eggs and her sons developed dragon magic that gradually makes the user more draconic.
* In one of the story arcs of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[http://magiccards.info/10e/en/279.html Mirri]] (a [[CatGirl cat warrior]]) had an unrequited crush on her (human) childhood friend [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Gerrard%20Capashen Gerrard]].
** Among the crop of post-Mending walkers, there seems to be a bit of ShipTease going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]]. Meanwhile, a [[HoYay same-sex version]] is hinted at between [[PlayingWithFire pyromancer Chandra Nalaar]] and [[OurElvesAreDifferent elvish druid Nissa Revane]].
* ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' has the human Thomas Moore and Martian Princess Fayiltha of Polintal. Since Moore was such a hero to Polintal the city's Kastari declared him a Silthuri soul in a human body and allowed them to marry.
* Almost completely absent in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' (everyone is either an AbsoluteXenophobe, asexual, or rigidly enforces breeding), but it pops up from time to time:
** Both the Dark Eldar and [[ReligionOfEvil the followers]] of the [[MadGod Chaos God]] [[SenseFreak Slaanesh]] indulge in gratuitous interspecies rape on occasion, but that's primarily because their MO runs on {{Squick}}.
** [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Back when 40K was a parody]], the Ultramarines had Iliyan Nastase, a human/Eldar hybrid psyker who was both their Chief Librarian and an Astropath. This is somewhat undermined by that same fluff also stating that Eldar have, [[ArtisticLicenseBiology among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and ''[[BizarreAlienBiology triple-helix DNA]]''. As 40K got more serious, this quickly became yet another piece of weird early lore that fell into CanonDiscontinuity territory.
** The ''Wrath and Glory'' RPG implies that this happens at the fringes of the galaxy where the Imperium has little to no control and interspecies mixing is common among both their border worlds and the large number of independent states and states-within-states. Namely, the [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/bpcogs/can_love_bloom_on_the_battlefield_from_the_wrath/ "Flame of The Heart"]] [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/97ua09/official_campaign_card_from_wrath_glory_cant_wait/ card]] depicts a human man and an Eldar woman; for context, that's the card for starting an "amorous relationship" between your character and an NPC.
** Genestealers combine this trope with FaceFullOfAlienWingWong, a sub-species of [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Tyranid]] that focus on infiltrating target populations. They do this by changing a target's DNA slightly, making the target absolutely devoted to the Genestealer and Tyranids in general, and horny. Any child of the targeted creature (known as a Brood Brother) is less of the parent race and more Tyranid, until by the fourth generation Brood Brothers (or Sisters) give birth to purestrain Genestealers.
* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.
* Subverted in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'', where it turns out that despite accusations of ignorant peasants, beastmen are mutated by Chaos and not born of a beast and a human (in fact, the beastmen view the idea with as much disgust as humans do).



* Almost completely absent in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' (everyone is either an AbsoluteXenophobe, asexual, or rigidly enforces breeding), but it pops up from time to time:
** Both the Dark Eldar and [[ReligionOfEvil the followers]] of the [[MadGod Chaos God]] [[SenseFreak Slaanesh]] indulge in gratuitous interspecies rape on occasion, but that's primarily because their MO runs on {{Squick}}.
** [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Back when 40K was a parody]], the Ultramarines had Iliyan Nastase, a human/Eldar hybrid psyker who was both their Chief Librarian and an Astropath. This is somewhat undermined by that same fluff also stating that Eldar have, [[ArtisticLicenseBiology among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and ''[[BizarreAlienBiology triple-helix DNA]]''. As 40K got more serious, this quickly became yet another piece of weird early lore that fell into CanonDiscontinuity territory.
** The ''Wrath and Glory'' RPG implies that this happens at the fringes of the galaxy where the Imperium has little to no control and interspecies mixing is common among both their border worlds and the large number of independent states and states-within-states. Namely, the [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/bpcogs/can_love_bloom_on_the_battlefield_from_the_wrath/ "Flame of The Heart"]] [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/97ua09/official_campaign_card_from_wrath_glory_cant_wait/ card]] depicts a human man and an Eldar woman; for context, that's the card for starting an "amorous relationship" between your character and an NPC.
** Genestealers combine this trope with FaceFullOfAlienWingWong, a sub-species of [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Tyranid]] that focus on infiltrating target populations. They do this by changing a target's DNA slightly, making the target absolutely devoted to the Genestealer and Tyranids in general, and horny. Any child of the targeted creature (known as a Brood Brother) is less of the parent race and more Tyranid, until by the fourth generation Brood Brothers (or Sisters) give birth to purestrain Genestealers.
* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.
* Subverted in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'', where it turns out that despite accusations of ignorant peasants, beastmen are mutated by Chaos and not born of a beast and a human (in fact, the beastmen view the idea with as much disgust as humans do).
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'':
** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "[=---=] This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die". (Direct quote.))
** The game has rules for various types of "God-Blooded," beings with one normal mortal parent and one Exalted or non-human parent. That parent may be an Exalt, a faerie, demon, a god, an elemental, or even a ghost. Sex, let alone breeding with, anything besides a Dragon-Blood is taboo in Realm culture, and interspecies pairings are frowned upon by the Celestial Bureaucracy and many other cultures. But plenty of gods give the finger to their superiors and plenty of cultists like to summon demons for disturbing uses. For ghosts, reproduction requires an obscure and hard-to-learn power. Gods, Lunars, faeries, demon-worshippers, and Deathlords all value God-Blooded as useful minions (or slaves) with a measure of their parents' abilities but not nearly enough power to pose any threat to their creator or owner. They may also lack their non-human parents' frailties, such as Fae-blooded and Half-demons who can live in Creation indefinitely without problems. Lunars also like to spawn whole armies of Beastmen, since their own numbers are so limited.
** Interestingly, some God-Blooded are born to parents who subvert this trope; some gods have ways of reproducing that don't involve anything remotely resembling sex, especially those with totally non-human anatomy. If you get pregnant from inhaling magic pollen, does it really count as romance?
* In one of the story arcs of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[http://magiccards.info/10e/en/279.html Mirri]] (a [[CatGirl cat warrior]]) had an unrequited crush on her (human) childhood friend [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Gerrard%20Capashen Gerrard]].
** Among the crop of post-Mending walkers, there seems to be a bit of ShipTease going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]]. Meanwhile, a [[HoYay same-sex version]] is hinted at between [[PlayingWithFire pyromancer Chandra Nalaar]] and [[OurElvesAreDifferent elvish druid Nissa Revane]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' only hints at the possibility of interspecies romances in the main book. However the main character of the novel ''Scars'' is the daughter of a grey fox noble and a red fox servant, and a raccoon has an unrequited crush on her. And the Book of Jade supplement has a legend of an ill-fated romance between a dragon prince and a peasant vixen; the dragon was killed by his jealous brother and the vixen turned herself into a dragon through force of will to avenge him, then she laid nine eggs and her sons developed dragon magic that gradually makes the user more draconic.
* ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' has the human Thomas Moore and Martian Princess Fayiltha of Polintal. Since Moore was such a hero to Polintal the city's Kastari declared him a Silthuri soul in a human body and allowed them to marry.

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* Almost completely absent in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' (everyone is either an AbsoluteXenophobe, asexual, or rigidly enforces breeding), but it pops up from time to time:
** Both the Dark Eldar and [[ReligionOfEvil the followers]] of the [[MadGod Chaos God]] [[SenseFreak Slaanesh]] indulge in gratuitous interspecies rape on occasion, but that's primarily because their MO runs on {{Squick}}.
** [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Back when 40K was a parody]], the Ultramarines had Iliyan Nastase, a human/Eldar hybrid psyker who was both their Chief Librarian and an Astropath. This is somewhat undermined by that same fluff also stating that Eldar have, [[ArtisticLicenseBiology among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and ''[[BizarreAlienBiology triple-helix DNA]]''. As 40K got more serious, this quickly became yet another piece of weird early lore that fell into CanonDiscontinuity territory.
** The ''Wrath and Glory'' RPG implies that this happens at the fringes of the galaxy where the Imperium has little to no control and interspecies mixing is common among both their border worlds and the large number of independent states and states-within-states. Namely, the [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/bpcogs/can_love_bloom_on_the_battlefield_from_the_wrath/ "Flame of The Heart"]] [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/97ua09/official_campaign_card_from_wrath_glory_cant_wait/ card]] depicts a human man and an Eldar woman; for context, that's the card for starting an "amorous relationship" between your character and an NPC.
** Genestealers combine this trope with FaceFullOfAlienWingWong, a sub-species of [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Tyranid]] that focus on infiltrating target populations. They do this by changing a target's DNA slightly, making the target absolutely devoted to the Genestealer and Tyranids in general, and horny. Any child of the targeted creature (known as a Brood Brother) is less of the parent race and more Tyranid, until by the fourth generation Brood Brothers (or Sisters) give birth to purestrain Genestealers.
* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.
* Subverted in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'', where it turns out that despite accusations of ignorant peasants, beastmen are mutated by Chaos and not born of a beast and a human (in fact, the beastmen view the idea with as much disgust as humans do).
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'':
** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "[=---=] This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die". (Direct quote.))
** The game has rules for various types of "God-Blooded," beings with one normal mortal parent and one Exalted or non-human parent. That parent may be an Exalt, a faerie, demon, a god, an elemental, or even a ghost. Sex, let alone breeding with, anything besides a Dragon-Blood is taboo in Realm culture, and interspecies pairings are frowned upon by the Celestial Bureaucracy and many other cultures. But plenty of gods give the finger to their superiors and plenty of cultists like to summon demons for disturbing uses. For ghosts, reproduction requires an obscure and hard-to-learn power. Gods, Lunars, faeries, demon-worshippers, and Deathlords all value God-Blooded as useful minions (or slaves) with a measure of their parents' abilities but not nearly enough power to pose any threat to their creator or owner. They may also lack their non-human parents' frailties, such as Fae-blooded and Half-demons who can live in Creation indefinitely without problems. Lunars also like to spawn whole armies of Beastmen, since their own numbers are so limited.
** Interestingly, some God-Blooded are born to parents who subvert this trope; some gods have ways of reproducing that don't involve anything remotely resembling sex, especially those with totally non-human anatomy. If you get pregnant from inhaling magic pollen, does it really count as romance?
* In one of the story arcs of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[http://magiccards.info/10e/en/279.html Mirri]] (a [[CatGirl cat warrior]]) had an unrequited crush on her (human) childhood friend [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Gerrard%20Capashen Gerrard]].
** Among the crop of post-Mending walkers, there seems to be a bit of ShipTease going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]]. Meanwhile, a [[HoYay same-sex version]] is hinted at between [[PlayingWithFire pyromancer Chandra Nalaar]] and [[OurElvesAreDifferent elvish druid Nissa Revane]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' only hints at the possibility of interspecies romances in the main book. However the main character of the novel ''Scars'' is the daughter of a grey fox noble and a red fox servant, and a raccoon has an unrequited crush on her. And the Book of Jade supplement has a legend of an ill-fated romance between a dragon prince and a peasant vixen; the dragon was killed by his jealous brother and the vixen turned herself into a dragon through force of will to avenge him, then she laid nine eggs and her sons developed dragon magic that gradually makes the user more draconic.
* ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' has the human Thomas Moore and Martian Princess Fayiltha of Polintal. Since Moore was such a hero to Polintal the city's Kastari declared him a Silthuri soul in a human body and allowed them to marry.
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** Among the crop of post-Mending walkers, there seems to be a bit of ShipTease going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]]. Meanwhile, a [[HoYay same-sex version]] is hinted at between [[PlayingWithFire pyromancer Chandra Nalaar]] and [[OurElvesAreBetter elvish druid Nissa Revane]].

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** Among the crop of post-Mending walkers, there seems to be a bit of ShipTease going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]]. Meanwhile, a [[HoYay same-sex version]] is hinted at between [[PlayingWithFire pyromancer Chandra Nalaar]] and [[OurElvesAreBetter [[OurElvesAreDifferent elvish druid Nissa Revane]].
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** The ''Wrath and Glory'' RPG implies that this happens at the fringes of the galaxy where the Imperium has little to no control and interspecies mixing is common among both their border worlds and the large number of independent states and states-within-states. Namely, the [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/bpcogs/can_love_bloom_on_the_battlefield_from_the_wrath/ "Flame of The Heart"]] [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/97ua09/official_campaign_card_from_wrath_glory_cant_wait/ card]] depicts a human man and an Eldar woman; for context, that's the card for starting an "amorous relationship" between your character and an NPC.

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* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves.
Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.

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* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. \n Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.

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* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.

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* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves.
Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.Library.
* Subverted in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'', where it turns out that despite accusations of ignorant peasants, beastmen are mutated by Chaos and not born of a beast and a human (in fact, the beastmen view the idea with as much disgust as humans do).
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* In one of the story arcs of ''MagicTheGathering'' [[http://magiccards.info/10e/en/279.html Mirri]] (a [[CatGirl cat warrior]]) had an unrequited crush on her (human) childhood friend [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Gerrard%20Capashen Gerrard]].

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* In one of the story arcs of ''MagicTheGathering'' ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[http://magiccards.info/10e/en/279.html Mirri]] (a [[CatGirl cat warrior]]) had an unrequited crush on her (human) childhood friend [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Gerrard%20Capashen Gerrard]].
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** Very early fluff hinted the [[CanonSue Ultramarines]] have an human/Eldar hybrid among their number ([[MarySue and was both their Chief Librarian and an Astropath]]), though this is somewhat undermined by that same fluff also stating that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA]]. Like most things from the early fluff, this has been stricken from the collective fandom consciousness.
** Genestealers combine this trope with FaceFullOfAlienWingWong, a sub-species of [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Tyranid]] that focus on infiltrating target populations. They do this by changing a target's DNA slightly, making the target absolutely devoted to the Genestealer and Tyranids in general, and horny. Any child of the targeted creature (known as a Brood Brother) is less of the parent race and more Tyranid, until by the fourth generation Brood Brothers (well, Sisters) give birth to purestrain Genestealers.

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** Very early fluff hinted [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Back when 40K was a parody]], the [[CanonSue Ultramarines]] have an Ultramarines had Iliyan Nastase, a human/Eldar hybrid among their number ([[MarySue and psyker who was both their Chief Librarian and an Astropath]]), though this Astropath. This is somewhat undermined by that same fluff also stating that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA]]. Like most things from the ''[[BizarreAlienBiology triple-helix DNA]]''. As 40K got more serious, this quickly became yet another piece of weird early fluff, this has been stricken from the collective fandom consciousness.
lore that fell into CanonDiscontinuity territory.
** Genestealers combine this trope with FaceFullOfAlienWingWong, a sub-species of [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Tyranid]] that focus on infiltrating target populations. They do this by changing a target's DNA slightly, making the target absolutely devoted to the Genestealer and Tyranids in general, and horny. Any child of the targeted creature (known as a Brood Brother) is less of the parent race and more Tyranid, until by the fourth generation Brood Brothers (well, (or Sisters) give birth to purestrain Genestealers.



** Currently, there seems to be a [[ShipTease ship tease]] going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]].

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** Currently, Among the crop of post-Mending walkers, there seems to be a [[ShipTease ship tease]] bit of ShipTease going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]]. Meanwhile, a [[HoYay same-sex version]] is hinted at between [[PlayingWithFire pyromancer Chandra Nalaar]] and [[OurElvesAreBetter elvish druid Nissa Revane]].
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** Currently, there seems to be a [[ShipTease ship tease]] going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. The audience doesn’t seem to mind.

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** Currently, there seems to be a [[ShipTease ship tease]] going on between the human Planeswalker Jace and the Gorgon Planeswalker Vraska. The audience doesn’t seem to mind.Jace’s previous romance involved the immortal necromancer [[TheNecromancer Liliana Vess]].
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** One straight example however is the fanfic ''Love Can Bloom'' which deals with the Eldar Farseer Taldeer of Ultwhe and her lover, a Vindicare Assasin designated LIIVI who spared her life and then got involved with her. Later they have a child named Lofn. The story is given a ShoutOut in ''TabletopGame/DarkHeresy''.
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* ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' has the human Thomas Moore and Martian Princess Fayiltha of Polintal. Since Moore was such a hero to Polintal the city's Kastari declared him a Silthuri soul in a human body and allowed them to marry.
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** Very early fluff hinted the [[CanonSue Ultramarines]] have an human/Eldar hybrid among their number, though this is somewhat undermined by that same fluff also stating that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA]]. Like most things from the early fluff, this has been stricken from the collective fandom consciousness.

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** Very early fluff hinted the [[CanonSue Ultramarines]] have an human/Eldar hybrid among their number, number ([[MarySue and was both their Chief Librarian and an Astropath]]), though this is somewhat undermined by that same fluff also stating that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA]]. Like most things from the early fluff, this has been stricken from the collective fandom consciousness.



** One straight example however is the fanfic ''Love Can Bloom'' which deals with the Eldar Farseer Taldeer of Ultwhe and her lover, a Vindicare Assasin designated LIIVI who spared her life and then got involved with her. Later they have a child named Lofn. As of ''TabletopGame/DarkHeresy'', the story is canon.

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** One straight example however is the fanfic ''Love Can Bloom'' which deals with the Eldar Farseer Taldeer of Ultwhe and her lover, a Vindicare Assasin designated LIIVI who spared her life and then got involved with her. Later they have a child named Lofn. As of ''TabletopGame/DarkHeresy'', the The story is canon.given a ShoutOut in ''TabletopGame/DarkHeresy''.
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** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "--- This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die". (Direct quote.))

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** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "--- "[=---=] This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die". (Direct quote.))
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** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "F--k This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die". (Direct quote.))

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** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "F--k "--- This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die". (Direct quote.))
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''[[TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem Night Horrors: Wicked Dead]]'' introduces the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness nWoD]] take on the {{Dhampyr}}, which is born when a human and a vampire engage in carnal relationships backed by magic or a massive amount of emotional focus -- [[ThePowerOfLove a deep sincere love]] is mentioned as the most common, and most tragic, cause of their creation. And because the laws of nature are already being broken by their creation, ''any'' combination of a vampire/human pairing can produce them. [[HomosexualReproduction Even two men or two women]]. And when a heterosexual couple are the parents, [[MisterSeahorse the male can end up carrying the baby instead of the female]] -- this is (fortunately) usually only caused by magic and tends to occur when it's a male vampire/female human couple. Male humans can carry the dhampyr safely... but [[DeathByChildbirth delivery is another matter]].\\

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''[[TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem Night Horrors: The Wicked Dead]]'' introduces the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness nWoD]] take on the {{Dhampyr}}, which is born when a human and a vampire engage in carnal relationships backed by magic or a massive amount of emotional focus -- [[ThePowerOfLove a deep sincere love]] is mentioned as the most common, and most tragic, cause of their creation. And because the laws of nature are already being broken by their creation, ''any'' combination of a vampire/human pairing can produce them. [[HomosexualReproduction Even two men or two women]]. And when a heterosexual couple are the parents, [[MisterSeahorse the male can end up carrying the baby instead of the female]] -- this is (fortunately) usually only caused by magic and tends to occur when it's a male vampire/female human couple. Male humans can carry the dhampyr safely... but [[DeathByChildbirth delivery is another matter]].\\



** Werewolves only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (though no one would ever consider trying to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast). In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' all the shapeshifters have families, including animal and in most cases also human Kinfolk who are, in almost all ways, entirely normal. Most shapeshifter-shapeshifter pairings inevitably produce either a sterile and deformed Metis or no child at all, and even the Changing Breeds with fertile "Metis" can never produce enough to maintain their population without breeding with humans and their animal species. (Some Garou have speculated that Gaia designed them that way deliberately, to prevent them from ignoring the people they should be protecting.)\\

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** Werewolves only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (though no one would ever consider trying to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast). In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' all the shapeshifters have families, including animal and in most cases also human Kinfolk who are, in almost all ways, entirely normal. Most shapeshifter-shapeshifter same-shapeshifter pairings inevitably produce either a sterile and deformed Metis or no child at all, and even the Changing Breeds with fertile "Metis" can never produce enough to maintain their population without breeding with humans and their animal species. (Some Garou have speculated that Gaia designed them that way deliberately, to prevent them from ignoring the people they should be protecting.)\\



** In ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' Changelings, while usually sterile due to Arcadia's nature, don't pass on any magic touches to any half-human offspring they do have. These offspring are called Kinain.
** [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen Demons]] [[DemonicPossession possess]] humans, and thus can mate and procreate as normal for a human.

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** In ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' Changelings, while changelings are perfectly capable of having children; some are changelings themselves, some are ordinary humans, and some, the Kinain, inherit a touch of fae magic. In ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'', however, changelings are usually sterile due sterile, thanks to Arcadia's nature, don't pass on any magic touches to any half-human offspring they do have. These offspring are called Kinain.
their transformation, but the occasional child has been known.
** [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen Demons]] The Fallen]] [[DemonicPossession possess]] humans, and thus can mate and procreate as normal for a human.human. [[TabletopGame/DemonTheDescent The Unchained]], meanwhile, have human disguises so comprehensive they're able to reproduce in the same way, with the child inheriting their parent's connection to the workings of the universe.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' only hints at the possibility of interspecies romances in the main book. However the main character of the novel ''Scars'' is the daughter of a grey fox noble and a red fox servant, and a raccoon has an unrequited crush on her. And the Book of Jade supplement has a legend of an ill-fated romance between a dragon prince and a peasant vixen, the dragon was killed by his jealous brother and the vixen turned herself into a dragon through force of will to avenge him, then she laid nine eggs and her sons developed dragon magic that gradually makes the user more draconic.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' only hints at the possibility of interspecies romances in the main book. However the main character of the novel ''Scars'' is the daughter of a grey fox noble and a red fox servant, and a raccoon has an unrequited crush on her. And the Book of Jade supplement has a legend of an ill-fated romance between a dragon prince and a peasant vixen, vixen; the dragon was killed by his jealous brother and the vixen turned herself into a dragon through force of will to avenge him, then she laid nine eggs and her sons developed dragon magic that gradually makes the user more draconic.
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' only hints at the possibility of interspecies romances in the main book. However the main character of the novel ''Scars'' is the daughter of a grey fox noble and a red fox servant, and a raccoon has an unrequited crush on her. And the Book of Jade supplement has a legend of an ill-fated romance between a dragon prince and a peasant vixen, the dragon was killed by his jealous brother and the vixen turned herself into a dragon through force of will to avenge him, then she laid nine eggs and her sons developed dragon magic that gradually makes the user more draconic.

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** One straight example however is the fanfic ''Love Can Bloom'' which deals with the Eldar Farseer Taldeer of Ultwhe and her lover, a Vindicare Assasin designated LIIVI who spared her life and then got involved with her. Later they have a child named Lofn. As of ''Dark Heresy'', the story is canon.

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** One straight example however is the fanfic ''Love Can Bloom'' which deals with the Eldar Farseer Taldeer of Ultwhe and her lover, a Vindicare Assasin designated LIIVI who spared her life and then got involved with her. Later they have a child named Lofn. As of ''Dark Heresy'', ''TabletopGame/DarkHeresy'', the story is canon.canon.
* Although "romance" wasn't involved, the earliest edition of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' had half-orcs in it, as well as a race called the fimir, who consisted of sterile spellcasting females and fertile males, and thusly kidnapped human women to propagate themselves. Strangely, though most elements of that time (like half-orcs and gnomes) have been consigned to the dustbin of RetCon, fimir get an oblique mention in the Sigmar trilogy from Black Library.
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* Averted in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} as all species in 40k are [[FantasticRacism exceedingly xenophobic]] and view all others as lower than animals, thus making even the idea of interspecies romance horrifying and [[KillItWithFire purge-worthy]]. However, both the Dark Eldar and the followers of the [[ReligionOfEvil Chaos God]] [[CosmicHorror Slaanesh]] do induldge in gratuitous interspecies rape, but that's primarily because their MO involves raping anything that moves.
** Or anything that ''doesn't'' move. And if it was moving and then it stopped.
** Fans of the Imperium of Man respond to this trope with "Fucking Xenos?!? Those fucking Xenos!"
** It is hinted in some of the older fluff, however, that the [[MarySue Ultramarines]] do have a human/Eldar hybrid among their number, though this is somewhat undermined by the fact that the same fluff also states that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA.]]
** Most, if not all, of the older fluff is generally disregarded by the producers themselves (though fans, naturally, have a tendency to latch onto elements they like)... understandably, seeing as how the oldest fluff includes such disasters as Squats (drunken space dwarves who drove around on motorized tricycles), the Sensei (immortal, sterile children of the God-Emperor, who he didn't even know existed) and the Illuminati (a conspiracy of humans who were possessed by daemons, then managed to force them out and become untouchable super-psykers as a result).
*** The Illuminati were the human version of the eldar Harlequins, which are still around. Eldar are much more powerful psykers compared to humans, but the idea is not far-fetched.
*** Actually, there is a monster (or race of monsters) in 40K devoted to this trope. Genestealers are a sub-species of Tyranids that focus on infilitrating target populations. They do this by changing a target's DNA slightly; this makes the target absolutly devoted to the Genestealer and Tyranids in general, and horny. Any child of the targeted creature (known as a Brood Brother) is less of the parent race and more Tyranid, until by the fourth generation Brood Brothers (well, Sisters) give birth to purestrain Genestealers.

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* Averted Almost completely absent in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} as all species in 40k are [[FantasticRacism exceedingly xenophobic]] and view all others as lower than animals, thus making even the idea of interspecies romance horrifying and [[KillItWithFire purge-worthy]]. However, both ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' (everyone is either an AbsoluteXenophobe, asexual, or rigidly enforces breeding), but it pops up from time to time:
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the Dark Eldar and the followers of the [[ReligionOfEvil the followers]] of the [[MadGod Chaos God]] [[CosmicHorror [[SenseFreak Slaanesh]] do induldge indulge in gratuitous interspecies rape, rape on occasion, but that's primarily because their MO involves raping anything that moves.
runs on {{Squick}}.
** Or anything that ''doesn't'' move. And if it was moving and then it stopped.
** Fans of the Imperium of Man respond to this trope with "Fucking Xenos?!? Those fucking Xenos!"
** It is
Very early fluff hinted in some of the older fluff, however, that the [[MarySue [[CanonSue Ultramarines]] do have a an human/Eldar hybrid among their number, though this is somewhat undermined by the fact that the same fluff also states stating that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have rather prominent breasts) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA.]]
** Most, if not all, of
DNA]]. Like most things from the older fluff is generally disregarded by the producers themselves (though fans, naturally, have a tendency to latch onto elements they like)... understandably, seeing as how the oldest fluff includes such disasters as Squats (drunken space dwarves who drove around on motorized tricycles), the Sensei (immortal, sterile children of the God-Emperor, who he didn't even know existed) and the Illuminati (a conspiracy of humans who were possessed by daemons, then managed to force them out and become untouchable super-psykers as a result).
*** The Illuminati were the human version of the eldar Harlequins, which are still around. Eldar are much more powerful psykers compared to humans, but the idea is not far-fetched.
*** Actually, there is a monster (or race of monsters) in 40K devoted to
early fluff, this trope. has been stricken from the collective fandom consciousness.
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Genestealers are combine this trope with FaceFullOfAlienWingWong, a sub-species of Tyranids [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Tyranid]] that focus on infilitrating infiltrating target populations. They do this by changing a target's DNA slightly; this makes slightly, making the target absolutly absolutely devoted to the Genestealer and Tyranids in general, and horny. Any child of the targeted creature (known as a Brood Brother) is less of the parent race and more Tyranid, until by the fourth generation Brood Brothers (well, Sisters) give birth to purestrain Genestealers.
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* Averted in {{Warhammer 40000}} as all species in 40k are [[FantasticRacism exceedingly xenophobic]] and view all others as lower than animals, thus making even the idea of interspecies romance horrifying and [[KillItWithFire purge-worthy]]. However, both the Dark Eldar and the followers of the [[ReligionOfEvil Chaos God]] [[CosmicHorror Slaanesh]] do induldge in gratuitous interspecies rape, but that's primarily because their MO involves raping anything that moves.

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** Vampires are living corpses -- although they can have sex if they choose, their sex drive is mostly so dead they're hardly ever in the mood -- as are [[TabletopGame/MummyTheResurrection Mummies]] and [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]], so they're sterile to begin with. Bizarrely, in the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' there were very unusual circumstances in which [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade vampires]] and [[TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast kuei-jin]] could actually father half-human offspring on human mothers, but this was far from the norm.\\

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** Vampires are living corpses -- although they can have sex if they choose, their sex drive is mostly so dead they're hardly ever in the mood -- as are [[TabletopGame/MummyTheResurrection Mummies]] and [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]], so they're sterile to begin with. Bizarrely, in the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' there were very unusual circumstances in which [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade vampires]] and [[TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast kuei-jin]] could actually father have half-human offspring on human mothers, offspring, but this was far from the norm.\\



''Night Horrors: Wicked Dead'' introduces the [=nWoD=] take on the {{Dhampyr}}, which is born when a human and a vampire engage in carnal relationships backed by magic or a massive amount of emotional focus -- [[ThePowerOfLove a deep sincere love]] is mentioned as the most common, and most tragic, cause of their creation. And because the laws of nature are already being broken by their creation, ''any'' combination of a vampire/human pairing can produce them. [[HomosexualReproduction Even two men or two women]]. And when a heterosexual couple are the parents, [[MisterSeahorse the male can end up carrying the baby instead of the female]] -- this is (fortunately) usually only caused by magic and tends to occur when it's a male vampire/female human couple. Male humans can carry the dhampyr safely... but [[DeathByChildbirth delivery is another matter]].
** Werwolves are born human (or wolf) and only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (though no one would ever consider trying to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast). In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' all the shapeshifters have families, including animal and in most cases also human Kinfolk who are, in almost all ways, entirely normal. Most shapeshifter-shapeshifter pairings inevitably produce either a sterile and deformed Metis or no child at all, and even the Changing-Breeds with fertile "Metis" can never produce enough to maintain their population without breeding with humans and their animal species. (Some Garou have speculated that Gaia designed them that way deliberately, to prevent them from ignoring the people they should be protecting.)\\

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''Night ''[[TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem Night Horrors: Wicked Dead'' Dead]]'' introduces the [=nWoD=] [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness nWoD]] take on the {{Dhampyr}}, which is born when a human and a vampire engage in carnal relationships backed by magic or a massive amount of emotional focus -- [[ThePowerOfLove a deep sincere love]] is mentioned as the most common, and most tragic, cause of their creation. And because the laws of nature are already being broken by their creation, ''any'' combination of a vampire/human pairing can produce them. [[HomosexualReproduction Even two men or two women]]. And when a heterosexual couple are the parents, [[MisterSeahorse the male can end up carrying the baby instead of the female]] -- this is (fortunately) usually only caused by magic and tends to occur when it's a male vampire/female human couple. Male humans can carry the dhampyr safely... but [[DeathByChildbirth delivery is another matter]]. \n** Werwolves are born human (or wolf) and only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (though no one would ever consider trying to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast). In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' all the shapeshifters have families, including animal and in most cases also human Kinfolk who are, in almost all ways, entirely normal. Most shapeshifter-shapeshifter pairings inevitably produce either a sterile and deformed Metis or no child at all, and even the Changing-Breeds with fertile "Metis" can never produce enough to maintain their population without breeding with humans and their animal species. (Some Garou have speculated that Gaia designed them that way deliberately, to prevent them from ignoring the people they should be protecting.)\\\\



In the '' TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'', this changed for werewolves. Because of the {{Squick}} implications, werewolves no longer have sex with actual wolves, and view the idea the exact same way that humans do (although this hasn't stopped certain perverts). Werewolves cannot reproduce with other werewolves, as the result is a [[FetusTerrible spiritual abomination]] that grows up to hunt werewolves. Humans with werewolf blood are known as "wolf-blooded" and are always marked by this blood. The ''Blood of the Wolf'' sourcebook states that werewolves are sterile in their wolf-shape, but ''also'' states that men can fraternize with wolves and sire normal wolf offspring ([[MuggleBornOfMages that are not and never will be werewolves]]). Now think about [[FridgeHorror how those two statements are reconciled]], [[BrainBleach or do not think about it]]. ''Night Horrors: Wolfsbane'' has a Werewolf AntiChrist DarkMessiah who is the child of a werewolf and a wolf. [[DeathByChildbirth He was born 100% human.]]
** In '' TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' Changelings, while usually sterile due to Arcadia's nature, don't pass on any magic touches to any half-human offspring they do have. These offspring are called Kinain.

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Even though Prometheans are sterile, it may happen occasionally that one finds themselves a parent. These children are known as Scions, and they're both able to sense when a Promethean draws near and unaffected by Disquiet.
** Werewolves only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (though no one would ever consider trying to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast).
In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' all the '' TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'', shapeshifters have families, including animal and in most cases also human Kinfolk who are, in almost all ways, entirely normal. Most shapeshifter-shapeshifter pairings inevitably produce either a sterile and deformed Metis or no child at all, and even the Changing Breeds with fertile "Metis" can never produce enough to maintain their population without breeding with humans and their animal species. (Some Garou have speculated that Gaia designed them that way deliberately, to prevent them from ignoring the people they should be protecting.)\\
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In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'',
this changed for werewolves. Because of the {{Squick}} implications, werewolves no longer have sex with actual wolves, and view the idea the exact same way that humans do (although this hasn't stopped certain perverts). Werewolves cannot reproduce with other werewolves, as the result is a [[FetusTerrible spiritual abomination]] that grows up to hunt werewolves. Humans with werewolf blood are known as "wolf-blooded" and are always marked by this blood. The ''Blood of the Wolf'' sourcebook states that werewolves are sterile in their wolf-shape, but ''also'' states that men can fraternize with wolves and sire normal wolf offspring ([[MuggleBornOfMages that are not and never will be werewolves]]). Now think about [[FridgeHorror how those two statements are reconciled]], [[BrainBleach or do not think about it]]. ''Night Horrors: Wolfsbane'' has a Werewolf AntiChrist DarkMessiah who is the child of a werewolf and a wolf. [[DeathByChildbirth He was born 100% human.]]
** In '' TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' Changelings, while usually sterile due to Arcadia's nature, don't pass on any magic touches to any half-human offspring they do have. These offspring are called Kinain.



* Averted in {{Warhammer40000}} as all species in 40k are [[FantasticRacism exceedingly xenophobic]] and view all other as lower than animals, thus making even the idea of interspecies romance horrifying and [[KillItWithFire purge-worthy]]. However, both the Dark Eldar and the followers of the [[ReligionOfEvil Chaos God]] [[CosmicHorror Slaanesh]] do induldge in gratuitous interspecies rape, but that's primarily because their MO involves raping anything that moves.

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** There was a flaw in the original Spell of Life which meant that the mummies it created were sterile. The [[TabletopGame/MummyTheResurrection improved version]] allows mummies to have human children.
* Averted in {{Warhammer40000}} {{Warhammer 40000}} as all species in 40k are [[FantasticRacism exceedingly xenophobic]] and view all other others as lower than animals, thus making even the idea of interspecies romance horrifying and [[KillItWithFire purge-worthy]]. However, both the Dark Eldar and the followers of the [[ReligionOfEvil Chaos God]] [[CosmicHorror Slaanesh]] do induldge in gratuitous interspecies rape, but that's primarily because their MO involves raping anything that moves.



** Fans of Imperium of Man respond to this trope with : "Fucking Xenos?!? Those fucking Xenos!"

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** Fans of the Imperium of Man respond to this trope with : "Fucking Xenos?!? Those fucking Xenos!"
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* In one of the story arcs of ''MagicTheGathering'' [[http://magiccards.info/10e/en/279.html Mirri]] (a [[CatGirl cat warrior]]) had an unrequited crush on her (human) childhood friend [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Gerrard%20Capashen Gerrard]].
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** Vampires are living corpses -- although they can have sex if they choose, their sex drive is mostly so dead they're hardly ever in the mood -- as are [[TabletopGame/MummyTheResurrection Mummies]] and [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]], so they're sterile to begin with. Bizarrely, in the '' TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' there were very unusual circumstances in which [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade vampires]] and [[TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast kuei-jin]] could actually father half-human offspring on human mothers, but this was far from the norm.\\

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** Vampires are living corpses -- although they can have sex if they choose, their sex drive is mostly so dead they're hardly ever in the mood -- as are [[TabletopGame/MummyTheResurrection Mummies]] and [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]], so they're sterile to begin with. Bizarrely, in the '' TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' there were very unusual circumstances in which [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade vampires]] and [[TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast kuei-jin]] could actually father half-human offspring on human mothers, but this was far from the norm.\\



** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to their other great (WorldOfDarkness) game, [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse "F--k This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die".]] (Direct quote.))

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** If it exists and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to their other great (WorldOfDarkness) game, [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' with the words "F--k This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die".]] Die". (Direct quote.))

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* All sorts of human/non-human goings-on in the ''WorldOfDarkness'', including vampires and werewolves (though no one would ever consider trying to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast). On the other hand, Vampires are living corpses (although they can have sex if they choose, their sex drive is mostly so dead they're hardly ever in the mood), as are Mummies and Prometheans, so they're sterile to begin with; werewolves are born human (or wolf) and only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (in the old World of Darkness, they mate with both humans and wolves but are forbidden from mating with other werewolves); and changelings, while usually sterile due to Arcadia's nature, don't pass on any magic touches to their offspring.) Hunters are pure humans, as are Mages, and Demons ''possess'' humans so can procreate as normal for a human.
** In the new World of Darkness, this changed for werewolves. Because of the {{Squick}} implications, werewolves no longer have sex with actual wolves, and view the idea the exact same way that humans do (although this hasn't stopped certain perverts). Werewolves cannot reproduce with other werewolves, as the result is a [[FetusTerrible spiritual abomination]] that grows up to hunt werewolves. Humans with werewolf blood are known as "wolf-blooded" and are always marked by this blood.
*** The ''Blood of the Wolf'' sourcebook states that werewolves are sterile in their wolf-shape, but ''also'' states that men can fraternize with wolves and sire normal wolf offspring ([[MuggleBornOfMages that are not and never will be werewolves]]). Now think about [[FridgeHorror how those two statements are reconciled]], [[BrainBleach or do not think about it]].
*** ''Night Horrors: Wolfsbane'' has a Werewolf AntiChrist DarkMessiah who is the child of a werewolf and a wolf. [[DeathByChildbirth He was born 100% human.]]
*** ''Night Horrors: Wicked Dead'' introduces the [=NWoD=] take on the {{Dhampyr}}, which is born when a human and a vampire engage in carnal relationships backed by magic or a massive amount of emotional focus -- [[ThePowerOfLove a deep sincere love]] is mentioned as the most common, and most tragic, cause of their creation. And because the laws of nature are already being broken by their creation, ''any'' combination of a vampire/human pairing can produce them. [[HomosexualReproduction Even two men or two women]]. And when a heterosexual couple are the parents, [[MisterSeahorse the male can end up carrying the baby instead of the female]] -- this is (fortunately) usually only caused by magic and tends to occur when it's a male vampire/female human couple. Male humans can carry the dhampyr safely... but [[DeathByChildbirth delivery is another matter]].
* In the OldWorldOfDarkness both Werewolves and Changelings had families, sometimes entire races of mostly-human offspring resulting from this sort of thing. They were called Kinfolk and Kinain respectively and had important roles within the society of said supernatural. Indeed just about every supernatural engaged in romance with humans, even the vampires though less so due to the deadness (see above).

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* All ''TabletopGame/TheWorldOfDarkness'': There are all sorts of of human/non-human goings-on in the ''WorldOfDarkness'', both settings, including vampires and werewolves werewolves. Most splats are non-human in some way, except Hunters and Mages, and most of them can mate and even reproduce with humans under at least some circumstances. The only ones truly unable to do so are Wraiths, being wholly immaterial. Indeed just about every supernatural engaged in romance with humans, even the vampires (though no one would ever consider trying less so due to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast). On their deadness). Generally the other hand, likelihood of said romances are similar between the two versions of a given splat:
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Vampires are living corpses (although -- although they can have sex if they choose, their sex drive is mostly so dead they're hardly ever in the mood), mood -- as are Mummies [[TabletopGame/MummyTheResurrection Mummies]] and Prometheans, [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]], so they're sterile to begin with; werewolves are born human (or wolf) with. Bizarrely, in the '' TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' there were very unusual circumstances in which [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade vampires]] and only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (in the old World of Darkness, they mate with both humans and wolves but are forbidden from mating with other werewolves); and changelings, while usually sterile due to Arcadia's nature, don't pass on any magic touches to their offspring.) Hunters are pure humans, as are Mages, and Demons ''possess'' humans so can procreate as normal for a human.
** In the new World of Darkness, this changed for werewolves. Because of the {{Squick}} implications, werewolves no longer have sex with actual wolves, and view the idea the exact same way that humans do (although this hasn't stopped certain perverts). Werewolves cannot reproduce with other werewolves, as the result is a [[FetusTerrible spiritual abomination]] that grows up to hunt werewolves. Humans with werewolf blood are known as "wolf-blooded" and are always marked by this blood.
*** The ''Blood of the Wolf'' sourcebook states that werewolves are sterile in their wolf-shape, but ''also'' states that men can fraternize with wolves and sire normal wolf
[[TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast kuei-jin]] could actually father half-human offspring ([[MuggleBornOfMages that are not and never will be werewolves]]). Now think about [[FridgeHorror how those two statements are reconciled]], [[BrainBleach or do not think about it]].
*** ''Night Horrors: Wolfsbane'' has a Werewolf AntiChrist DarkMessiah who is
on human mothers, but this was far from the child of a werewolf and a wolf. [[DeathByChildbirth He was born 100% human.]]
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norm.\\
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''Night Horrors: Wicked Dead'' introduces the [=NWoD=] [=nWoD=] take on the {{Dhampyr}}, which is born when a human and a vampire engage in carnal relationships backed by magic or a massive amount of emotional focus -- [[ThePowerOfLove a deep sincere love]] is mentioned as the most common, and most tragic, cause of their creation. And because the laws of nature are already being broken by their creation, ''any'' combination of a vampire/human pairing can produce them. [[HomosexualReproduction Even two men or two women]]. And when a heterosexual couple are the parents, [[MisterSeahorse the male can end up carrying the baby instead of the female]] -- this is (fortunately) usually only caused by magic and tends to occur when it's a male vampire/female human couple. Male humans can carry the dhampyr safely... but [[DeathByChildbirth delivery is another matter]].
* ** Werwolves are born human (or wolf) and only hit lycanthrope status at puberty (though no one would ever consider trying to have sex with a werewolf in its [[UnstoppableRage War-Form]]...unless they were pretty much invincible or into self-snuff and that got creepy really fast). In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' all the shapeshifters have families, including animal and in most cases also human Kinfolk who are, in almost all ways, entirely normal. Most shapeshifter-shapeshifter pairings inevitably produce either a sterile and deformed Metis or no child at all, and even the Changing-Breeds with fertile "Metis" can never produce enough to maintain their population without breeding with humans and their animal species. (Some Garou have speculated that Gaia designed them that way deliberately, to prevent them from ignoring the people they should be protecting.)\\
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In the OldWorldOfDarkness both '' TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'', this changed for werewolves. Because of the {{Squick}} implications, werewolves no longer have sex with actual wolves, and view the idea the exact same way that humans do (although this hasn't stopped certain perverts). Werewolves cannot reproduce with other werewolves, as the result is a [[FetusTerrible spiritual abomination]] that grows up to hunt werewolves. Humans with werewolf blood are known as "wolf-blooded" and Changelings had families, sometimes entire races are always marked by this blood. The ''Blood of mostly-human the Wolf'' sourcebook states that werewolves are sterile in their wolf-shape, but ''also'' states that men can fraternize with wolves and sire normal wolf offspring resulting from this sort ([[MuggleBornOfMages that are not and never will be werewolves]]). Now think about [[FridgeHorror how those two statements are reconciled]], [[BrainBleach or do not think about it]]. ''Night Horrors: Wolfsbane'' has a Werewolf AntiChrist DarkMessiah who is the child of thing. They were a werewolf and a wolf. [[DeathByChildbirth He was born 100% human.]]
** In '' TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' Changelings, while usually sterile due to Arcadia's nature, don't pass on any magic touches to any half-human offspring they do have. These offspring are
called Kinfolk and Kinain respectively and had important roles within the society of said supernatural. Indeed just about every supernatural engaged in romance with Kinain.
** [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen Demons]] [[DemonicPossession possess]]
humans, even the vampires though less so due to the deadness (see above).and thus can mate and procreate as normal for a human.



* If it exists in {{Exalted}} and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species.
** Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to their other great (WorldOfDarkness) game, [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse "F--k This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die".]] (Direct quote.)

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'':
**
If it exists in {{Exalted}} and can have sex, then some Exalted has had sex with it. The Lunars above all, that's how Beastmen came to be. If it makes a difference, the Lunars have the ability and usually the inclination to ask animals first, and shapeshift into the same species.
** Geoff
species. Beastmen, for the record, are usually conceived when a Lunar and a human ''or'' a Lunar and an animal mate in a [[RealityIsOutToLunch Wyld bordermarch]]... with [[{{Squick}} the Lunar in a form different from their mate]]. (Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to their other great (WorldOfDarkness) game, [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse "F--k This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die".]] (Direct quote.)))
** The game has rules for various types of "God-Blooded," beings with one normal mortal parent and one Exalted or non-human parent. That parent may be an Exalt, a faerie, demon, a god, an elemental, or even a ghost. Sex, let alone breeding with, anything besides a Dragon-Blood is taboo in Realm culture, and interspecies pairings are frowned upon by the Celestial Bureaucracy and many other cultures. But plenty of gods give the finger to their superiors and plenty of cultists like to summon demons for disturbing uses. For ghosts, reproduction requires an obscure and hard-to-learn power. Gods, Lunars, faeries, demon-worshippers, and Deathlords all value God-Blooded as useful minions (or slaves) with a measure of their parents' abilities but not nearly enough power to pose any threat to their creator or owner. They may also lack their non-human parents' frailties, such as Fae-blooded and Half-demons who can live in Creation indefinitely without problems. Lunars also like to spawn whole armies of Beastmen, since their own numbers are so limited.
** Interestingly, some God-Blooded are born to parents who subvert this trope; some gods have ways of reproducing that don't involve anything remotely resembling sex, especially those with totally non-human anatomy. If you get pregnant from inhaling magic pollen, does it really count as romance?

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** Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to their other great (WorldOfDarkness) game, [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse "Fuck This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die".]]

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** Geoff C. Grabowski once defended the Lunars' predilections by pointing them to their other great (WorldOfDarkness) game, [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse "Fuck "F--k This Wolf Or The Earth Will Die".]]]] (Direct quote.)
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** It is hinted in some of the older fluff, however, that the [[MarySue Ultramarines]] do have a human/Eldar hybrid among their number, though this is somewhat undermined by the fact that the same fluff also states that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have [[MostCommonSuperpower rather prominent breasts]]) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA.]]

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** It is hinted in some of the older fluff, however, that the [[MarySue Ultramarines]] do have a human/Eldar hybrid among their number, though this is somewhat undermined by the fact that the same fluff also states that Eldar have, [[YouFailBiologyForever among other horrendous biological impossibilities]], zero body fat (but for some reason the females still have [[MostCommonSuperpower rather prominent breasts]]) breasts) and [[BizarreAlienBiology TRIPLE HELIX DNA.]]
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*** ''Night Horrors: Wicked Dead'' introduces the [=NWoD=] take on the {{Dhampyr}}, which is born when a human and a vampire engage in carnal relationships backed by magic or a massive amount of emotional focus -- [[ThePowerOfLove a deep sincere love]] is mentioned as the most common, and most tragic, cause of their creation. And because the laws of nature are already being broken by their creation, ''any'' combination of a vampire/human pairing can produce them. [[HomosexualReproduction Even two men or two women]]. And when a heterosexual couple are the parents, [[MisterSeahorse the male can end up carrying the baby instead of the female]] -- this is (fortunately) usually only caused by magic and tends to occur when it's a male vampire/female human couple. Male humans can carry the dhampyr safely... but [[DeathByChildbirth delivery is another matter]].
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*** The ''Blood of the Wolf'' sourcebook states that werewolves are sterile in their wolf-shape, but ''also'' states that men can [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean fraternize]] with wolves and sire normal wolf offspring ([[MuggleBornOfMages that are not and never will be werewolves]]). Now think about [[FridgeHorror how those two statements are reconciled]], [[BrainBleach or do not think about it]].

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*** The ''Blood of the Wolf'' sourcebook states that werewolves are sterile in their wolf-shape, but ''also'' states that men can [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean fraternize]] fraternize with wolves and sire normal wolf offspring ([[MuggleBornOfMages that are not and never will be werewolves]]). Now think about [[FridgeHorror how those two statements are reconciled]], [[BrainBleach or do not think about it]].

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