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** Put simply, the base on Venus wasn’t important at the time. While it is a well-defended stronghold, the fact that Hitler is there at all indicates that it’s more of a castle - a luxurious but well-defended place reserved only for the higher-ups. Deathshead only stayed on Earth in the last game, and the only reason the resistance travels to the moon is to get the firing codes for the nuclear cannon, which would have to be kept closer than Venus in the event they needed to be used in a hurry. After “Terror-Billy” was declared dead, the Nazi regime probably felt okay loosening some restrictions, and revealed the Venus base to the public for the first time just for bragging rights.
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* There was a huge Nazi base on Venus the entire time. A massive, fully-functioning one too. That's so far above everything else technologically. Why does everything on Earth look like 1960s dieselpunk when that kind of technology is possible? When B.J. and Anya and their parents were resting in their 19th cottage did anyone ever tell B.J. "Oh by the way the Nazis made it to Venus and it's easy to travel there now"? Why even care about conquering America when that kind of space travel is possible? Did Deathshead build the Venus base? How come he never brought it up? There's so much attention to the Nazis building a base on the moon when they've dwarfed that accomplishment several times over.
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*** If you've ever served in the military, you'd know the answer to "Why would they make the soldiers dangerously uncomfortable" is just as likely as not that they just didn't give a shit. This would probably go triply so when the top brass is literal Nazi's.

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*** If you've ever served in the military, you'd know the answer to "Why would they make the soldiers dangerously uncomfortable" is just as likely as not that they just didn't give a shit. This would probably go triply so when the top brass is literal Nazi's.Nazis.
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*** If you've ever served in the military, you'd know the answer to "Why would they make the soldiers dangerously uncomfortable" is just as likely as not that they just didn't give a shit. This would probably go triply so when the top brass is literal Nazi's.
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** Who's to say Set didn't perform the procedure on the body beforehand?
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** It should be noted that while Gruber loves milkshakes, he also peruses the rest of the diner's menu and "suggests" that it needs to be more German.
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** Historically speaking there's also the uncomfortable fact that Hitler idolized the United States until they began actively opposing him and at the time the United States and Nazi Germany actually had a fair amount in common. Culturally and historically as well as in terms of recent behavior they were more likely to get along with the Nazi's then a lot of the European, African, or Asian powers.
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** In addition to possible bisexuality, the game also clearly demonstrates that Sigrud has an attraction to black men, which would also likely be put down in her diary, and which her fanatical Nazi mother would also likely have a wee bit of a problem with. Frau Engel, for all her obvious perversions, almost certainly does not engage in miscegenation.

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** In addition to Even if we discount possible bisexuality, the game also clearly demonstrates that Sigrud has an attraction to black men, which would also likely be put down in her diary, and which her fanatical Nazi mother would also likely have a wee bit of a problem with. Frau Engel, for all her obvious perversions, almost certainly does not engage in miscegenation.or approve of miscegenation. But yes, the answer of "Engel's a cruel bullying hypocrite" also works nicely.
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** In addition to possible bisexuality, the game also clearly demonstrates that Sigrud has an attraction to black men, which would also likely be put down in her diary, and which her fanatical Nazi mother would also likely have a wee bit of a problem with. Frau Engel, for all her obvious perversions, almost certainly does not engage in miscegenation.
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** Section F also isn't **that** big compared to the Hammer itself. Even if someone saw a blueprint, it'd probably look like just an empty space for ballast or something.
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** For one, she simply delights in cruelty toward those she sees as beneath her. She considers her daughter a disgraceful, weak-willed failure, so thinks it's her right to insult and embarrass her. For another, it's implied that Sigrun is attracted to women as well as men, something the Nazis did not approve of and would have branded deviant or perverted. Remember she later taunts Sigrun by simulating kissing and oral sex on her with Caroline's severed head, her twisted way of humiliating her for fantasizing about such things.
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* Considering she's a 17 year old girl I would think it would be more abnormal if she ''didn't'' have a lot of sexual thoughts. Or is the whole point of it to show what a hypocrite Frau Engel is in addition to all her other detestable qualities (considering she comes across as a deranged pervert herself?)
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** We do know that he can read Hebrew (he dictates the words "Da'at Yichud"). Normally, this would indicate that he's studied for his Bar Mitzvah, at the very least. Secretly?
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** Let's face it; the Resistance isn't exactly in a position to offer maternity leave here. They pretty much need anyone who can point a weapon and shoot to be in a combat position if needed. In this situation, Anya was needed. They probably don't ''want'' to put Anya in a position where she has to risk losing the pregnancy, but they don't exactly have an fuckton of choice in the situation either.

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** Set implanted some sort of internal machine above his kidneys that would keep them functioning as best they could. That would allow him to move around once he finally woke up.

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** Set implanted some sort a smaller more efficient version in the space where most of internal machine above his kidneys that intestines would keep them functioning as best they could. be after B.J.'s immediate condition stabilized. It wouldn't be that hard given how often he's shown using his knowledge of both advanced engineering and medicine together. That would allow him B.J. to move around once he finally woke up.up, given he was dying regardless this would be a quality of life measure meant to keep him relatively comfortable.



**** Like much of their work in this timeline it was a rush job and, not unlike The Last of Us, the Nazis didn't bother sorting out what power went where. All they did was turn off sections that made the system short out to deal with later.



** Eva's Hammer is based on stolen Jewish Space Wizard technology. It doesn't every begin to follow the normal rules for submersible craft so I so no reason not to assume a more efficient form of transmission that can cut through the water on an encrypted frequency.



** The brain stay active for a few seconds so he could still see himself being beheaded.

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** The human brain can stay active for a few seconds after beheading before brain death would set in, so he could still see himself being beheaded.
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** It's also worth noting that on the blueprints they examined Section F only appeared as a small room but with a printed reference to another document. Meaning that if say Anya was going over it in a rush she might not have translated the german text immediately and thus not realized it had instructions to pull up another document for the full layout of that section. After all do you want to go through every single page translating all the text immediately when most of it is going to be descriptions of circuit layouts? No after commandeering a major piece of military hardware capable of stealth you'd rush to learn how it works well enough to keep control and go through the rooms as shown on the blueprint to eliminate any remaining resistance.
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** [[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/well/family/cutting-out-the-bris.html Not all Jews practice circumcision.]]
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** He likely never got circumcised given his father would probably not have let his boy practice Judaism
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** B.J. is half-Jewish, and he's never shown to be religious. Religious Jews don't have sex before marriage, and certainly not with non-Jews, for one thing. Also, he doesn't wear the yamakuh like Set Roth does.
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** They likely waited for the submarine to reemerge ,or non stopped sent communication for five months if they couldn't find out when they were reemerging. Also remember that those five months were Anya finding out she had twins and her boyfriend might not wake up, she didn't expect deep cover nazi transmitting info from their own submarine was a thing to check. The others probably didn't have it better as they needed to prepare a new DoEverythingSoldier for their fight.

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** They likely waited for the submarine to reemerge ,or non stopped sent communication for five months if they couldn't find out when they were reemerging. Also remember that those five months were Anya finding out she had twins and her boyfriend might not wake up, she didn't expect deep cover nazi transmitting info from their own submarine was a thing to check. The others probably didn't have it better as they needed to prepare a new DoEverythingSoldier DoAnythingSoldier for their fight.
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* This is a bit of a silly one, but if B.J. has been confirmed to be Jewish, and with his new body obviously not having undergone the Jewish... "procedure", does that mean he's going to need to find a rabbi once the war is over and do that thing down below all over again?
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** And for the audition, BJ ''does'' disguise his face with a fake mustache.
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*** Well, in the case of the audition, they weren't expecting him, because he was, as Horton said, supposed to be dead.
** This is actually a case of RealityIsUnrealistic - wearing unusual clothes, like a uniform, does make them stand out, but people are more likely to pay attention to the clothing, than the person in the clothing.


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**Grace's tactics are very similar to the ones drill instructors use - she doesn't care if you hate her for what she says, so long as the end result is changing you, and the group as a whole, by proxy, for the better. For example, her treatment of Sigrun not only caused the girl to prove that she wasn't a Nazi, but also caused her to take a level in self assertiveness. Something she was extremely lacking in.
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*** It's either that or let the Nazis win because no one can crack code and shoot in the resistance apparently. They aren't really in a moment to choose.
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** The brain stay active for a few seconds so he could still see himself being beheaded.
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*** Competent or not, she's ''pregnant''. She has two fetuses growing in her body that could easily die. Even if Anya can take some a few hits, the babies sure can't. One stray bullet, piece of shrapnel, or even an excessive amount of g-forces (caused from explosions, shockwaves, jumping, falling, etc.) should be enough to cause a miscarriage. Therefore, putting herself on the frontlines at the expense of her own unborn children is a completely irrational--even moronic--thing to do.
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* How is [[spoiler:B.J.]] is still able to see anything right after he gets beheaded by Frau Engel?

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* How is come [[spoiler:B.J.]] is still able to see anything right after he gets beheaded by Frau Engel?Engel, but before his head goes in the jar?

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