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* If the Wood Elves being behind the Lady of Lake is only a possibility that was proposed, why do so many fans take it as canon? In fact it looks more like it isn't canon given the fact that Wood Elves can't do the magic stuff we see Brettonian knights do and Prophetesses can use Lore of Heavens when Wood Elf mages can't.
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** No, but from what I've read the daemon prince used to be a lot stronger, now the current rules look like the developers just feel like turning the thing into an overpriced punching bag. In some ways it makes sense as to why daemon princes cost a lot more here than in 40k, the chaos worshipers actually want it more there.
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**[[GenreBlind You're actually SURPRISED that]] [[UltimateEvil the Gods of Chaos]] [[DealWithTheDevil screw over their worshipers?]]
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** For a classic spanish feel it would probably be a bit too similar to the Empire, but it could certainly be done, based on the pike-and-shot formula...
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** For a classic spanish feel it would probably be a bit too similar to the Empire, but it could certainly be done, based on the pike-and-shot formula...
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** A couple of units couldn't hurt though, maybe a special character and/or a Regiment of Renown. A Spanish Inquisition-style witch hunter squad perhaps. [[MontyPythonsFlyingCircus No-one would expect it...]]
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** A couple of units couldn't hurt though, maybe a special character and/or a Regiment of Renown. A Spanish Inquisition-style witch hunter squad perhaps. [[MontyPythonsFlyingCircus [[Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus No-one would expect it...]]
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** Much like real-world middle ages, the peasants are too oppressed (help, help!) to revolt. They're too downtrodden, too disorganised, and also earnestly believe that their lords have a god-given right to rule over them. Then when they do revolt (as happens reasonably frequently in the fluff) it ends up going the way you think it would when starving, mud-born, uneducated people with knowledge of farming and no available military equipment take on Brettonian knights.
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**** Unlike most of the other races (Holy Roman Empire - The Empire, Mayincatec - Lizardmen Egyptian - Tomb Kings Vikings - Chaos Marauders Russia - Kislev etc. etc.) the elves in Warhammer don't really have counterpart cultures. High elves don't have any lamellar armour, horned helmets, curved swords, cruelty and aren't ruled by a puppet-government propped up by a military junta. Their writing is functionally similar to chinese but looks more like typical mystical squiggles than any actual East Asian language. They do have naval power on Byzantine-style galleys, are led by a rather unusual dual-monarchy/oligarchy system, live predominantly in Greek-style city-states, have spear-armed citizen militias backed by nobles on horseback, zen warrior-monks in the Swordmasters, Varangian guard in the White Lions, old, lost colonies kinda like the remnants of a roman empire... So there's bits of everything in there. "Slowly dying empire" is more of their hat than any particular culture, as every bit of fluff about them makes some reference to how their glories are not as great as they were, their cities are mostly empty and so forth.
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** The Wood Elves make sure they only ever miss one meal at a time.
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* The Daemon Prince currently seems a lot weaker than it should be. I get that Chaos worshipers want daemonhood for the immortality, but this is supposed to be the peak of the power the Chaos gods give them, and yet a Chaos Lord is more powerful, and even has an overall better stateline if he gets two or more roles on the eye of the gods table.
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** Reikland is a province in the Empire, not the Empire itself.
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*** Valden the co-emperor comes from a village devastated by beastmen you'd think he would care enough to do something like this.
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** Not all the forests in the Empire are full of monsters. The ones in Reikland and in the entire south-west are pretty safe. And considering this is where it's leadership and the bulk of it's population live, it's possible that - as usual - the Imperial administration simply doesn't know/care enough about the problems up north to organize something on this scale.
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*** Its more like several thousand, its also worth noting that one of the grand provinces Hochland is almost entirely covered with forests.
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** The forest takes up a fairly major chunk of the Empire, and has plenty of Imperial citizens living within and immediately surrounding it. It's pretty unlikely that the Empire would set about 33% of its own territory on fire.
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* The official name of the empire is The Reikland why is it never called that?
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* How has Bretonia existed for so long despite the fact that the peasants always seem to be two missed meals away from bloody revolution?
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*** Yeah but the in Warhammer the High Elves hat isn't "slow decline" its more Imperial Japan Expies than anything else
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** Salvaged info can be seen [[http://argiletum.wikidot.com/obscuras here]]
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** Obscur''as''. He is mentioned alongside Alluminas, and has his own seperate information page (http://www.goblin-online.net/download/obscuras.txt). Unfortunately, whereas he is still canon or not very much depends.
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** Obscur''as''. He is mentioned alongside Alluminas, and has his own seperate information page (http://www.goblin-online.net/download/obscuras.txt). Unfortunately, whereas he is still canon or not very much depends.
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* Obscurus. It's as if his very name is some sort of cruel joke. I can't find fluff on him anywhere, not even on the Lexicanum! Is there anybody here who knows anything about him? From what's listed on the characters page, he's certainly as worthy of my attention as Malal/Malice is.
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** Not to mention the massive environmental damage involved in burning several million square miles of woodland.
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** Wood ElvesElves live in those forests too.
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** More importantly, the elf Hat is "slow decline." In just about any 'verse, particularly LOTR, Elves (and Dwarves) actually have a hard time even conceiving.
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** More importantly, the elf Hat is "slow decline." In just about any 'verse, particularly LOTR, Elves (and Dwarves) actually have a hard time even conceiving. Chances are they couldn't have a population boom if they wanted to.
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** More importantly, the elf Hat is "slow decline." In just about any 'verse, particularly LOTR, Elves (and Dwarves) actually have a hard time even conceiving.
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** A forest fire would more likely unite the beastmen against the empire then defeat them and without enough men to farm and use the lands the forests would quickly regrow. In addition to this wood is an important resource as they trade it with the dwarfs.
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** There are many nobles that would oppose such a suggestion and the Phoenix King can't decide over all the kingdoms in that way.
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**** NOBODY expects the Empire Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise... I'll come in again.
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**** NOBODY expects the Empire Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....Emperor..... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise... I'll come in again.
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