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*** Watch that scene again,Stefan(despite what he tells Elena) totally was going to drive Elena off that bridge if Klaus hadn't given in first. Also season 1 Damon may not have cared about Elena's family and friends,but now? He does,infact,seem to care in his own Damony way considering that he does go help/rescue the others without being asked or prompted(or THANKED for that matter). In seasons 1 and 2 this behavior could certainly be interperted as him trying to please Elena but now he seems more genuine in his interactions with Jeremy/Caroline/Bonnie and helps because he himself wants to(although he will never,admittedly,be bffs with any of them). He's also only took Elena's free will once(when he forced her to drink his blood before the sacrifice)and though he states that he would've saved Elena over Matt,we'll never actually know the truth of that because he wasn't there. For the record Damon has done terrible things but who on this show hasn't by now? I personally don't belive that either brother is "better" or "all wrong" for Elena,in fact I think both make good partners for her for diffent reasons. Stefan was good for her in the beginning when she actually needed someone to play white knight and sheild her from the big bad vampires,but now? Now she's strong enough to walk on her own and doesn't need Stefan or anyone else coddling her,not that Stefan realizes this. He assumes that she'll never survive being vampire,never survive killing someone,and never survive turning her switch off and yet she does survive all of that(Sure,the road was really bumpy at first but what vampire/wrewolf/hybrid DIDN'T experiance a few hiccups at first?) but Stefan can't seem to understand this. Further more when he discovered that Elena was sired and that a cure for vampirism existed he imidiately set about trying to "fix" her,out right saying that he didn't like her as a vampire because she'd changed too much(despite the fact that Elena and everyone else has continued to grow and change since the freaking pilot). Damon on the other hand states that he likes Elena either way and never tried to change her. Is Damon selfish with her? Yes,sometimes but he has also been very unselish with her and proved that he is worthy of her affections(Remember how he actually backed down to let her be happy with Stefan?),not to mention he helps her be a whole lot freer with her emotions than she was with Stefan. So there for at this point Damon is better for her than Stefan.

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*** Watch that scene again,Stefan(despite what he tells Elena) totally was going to drive Elena off that bridge if Klaus hadn't given in first. Also season 1 Damon may not have cared about Elena's family and friends,but now? He does,infact,seem to care in his own Damony way considering that he does go help/rescue the others without being asked or prompted(or THANKED for that matter). In seasons 1 and 2 this behavior could certainly be interperted as him trying to please Elena but now he seems more genuine in his interactions with Jeremy/Caroline/Bonnie and helps because he himself wants to(although he will never,admittedly,be bffs with any of them). He's also only took Elena's free will once(when he forced her to drink his blood before the sacrifice)and though he states that he would've saved Elena over Matt,we'll never actually know the truth of that because he wasn't there. For the record Damon has done terrible things but who on this show hasn't by now? I personally don't belive that either brother is "better" or "all wrong" for Elena,in fact I think both make good partners for her for diffent reasons. Stefan was good for her in the beginning when she actually needed someone to play white knight and sheild her from the big bad vampires,but now? Now she's strong enough to walk on her own and doesn't need Stefan or anyone else coddling her,not that Stefan realizes this. He assumes that she'll never survive being vampire,never survive killing someone,and never survive turning her switch off and yet she does survive all of that(Sure,the road was really bumpy at first but what vampire/wrewolf/hybrid DIDN'T experiance a few hiccups at first?) but Stefan can't seem to understand this. Further more when he discovered that Elena was sired and that a cure for vampirism existed he imidiately set about trying to "fix" her,out right saying that he didn't like her as a vampire because she'd changed too much(despite the fact that Elena and everyone else has continued to grow and change since the freaking pilot). Damon on the other hand states that he likes Elena either way and never tried to change her. Is Damon selfish with her? Yes,sometimes but he has also been very unselish with her and proved that he is worthy of her affections(Remember how he actually backed down to let her be happy with Stefan?),not to mention he helps her be a whole lot freer with her emotions than she was with Stefan. So there for at this point Damon is better for her than Stefan.
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** I think Damon has been embraced by the fanbase for the same sorts of reasons as Literature/ThePhantomOfTheOpera and Rochester from Literature/JaneEyre. EvilIsSexy aside, he is one of the most complicated, well-developed and ''entertaining'' characters in the show. Yes, Stefan may be a nice guy and probably a good friend in real life but he honestly seems like a cardboard cut out compared to his older brother (and it doesn't help that Ian Somerhalder is a vastly superior actor). Plus, he's constantly the RomanticRunnerUp, with both Elena AND Katherine. That's something most people will be able to relate to, far easier than Stefan who has girls running round after him. To be fair, lots of the other characters are killers too. Plus, he's never going to get Elena. ''Ever.''

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** I think Damon has been embraced by the fanbase for the same sorts of reasons as Literature/ThePhantomOfTheOpera and Rochester from Literature/JaneEyre. EvilIsSexy Sex appeal aside, he is one of the most complicated, well-developed and ''entertaining'' characters in the show. Yes, Stefan may be a nice guy and probably a good friend in real life but he honestly seems like a cardboard cut out compared to his older brother (and it doesn't help that Ian Somerhalder is a vastly superior actor). Plus, he's constantly the RomanticRunnerUp, with both Elena AND Katherine. That's something most people will be able to relate to, far easier than Stefan who has girls running round after him. To be fair, lots of the other characters are killers too. Plus, he's never going to get Elena. ''Ever.''
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** With Elena rejected the vampire blood and blood bag, I get the sense that she would have had trouble surviving off either of those things with or without the sire bond. Human blood from the vein ''is'' what's most natural to a vampire. It's just that without the sire bond in play, Elena would have adapted to sustaining herself on either of those much more easily. But because Damon was already biased towards getting her to feed on people, he jumps to conclusions when she doesn't take well to it and that's what draws out the issue.
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**** Tatia's husband seemed to have died before she got close to Elijah and Klaus. It's possible they simply didn't know him before his death, or if they did, they might have forgotten his face by the time they met Stefan. Hundreds of years is a long time and they had no real reason to remember him like they did Tatia. It also wouldn't be the first time they forgot something potentially relevant: Elijah didn't recognize his mother's necklace when he ripped it off Elena's neck.
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** The doppelgangers exist to die so that their immortal counterparts don't have to. In other words, Stefan exists ''because'' Silas wasn't dead. Likewise Katherine already "died" once (before transitioning into a vampire) and thus served her purpose as a doppelganger, being one of many clones who died while Amara got to stay alive. We don't know what would have happened if Katherine had found a way to extend her lifespan without dying - maybe Elena would still have been born or maybe there would have been no need for further doppelgangers. [[spoiler:Regardless, it doesn't matter anymore for obvious reasons.]]
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** She didn't kill Tatia. Elijah did.

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*** I think Klaus's hybrids would require a Petrova doppelganger as that is what was used to make Klaus. Hypothetically if Esther had used Stefan's ancestors' blood in the ritual, they would be looking for Salvatore doppelgangers instead.
** The Originals don't have their own doppelgangers because they don't need them. Doppelgangers live and die to compensate for Silas and Amara's inability to die. The Mikaelsons essentially piggybacked onto the "true" immortals to attain partial immortality, so in a way they're already connected to Amara's doppelgangers. And, their version of immortality they do have is already balanced by Nature in other ways - the Sun and the trees used in Esther's spell - which covers why they keep their power after the doppelganger cycle ends.
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** Because it would be against their interests. Rebekah preferred Elena without her humanity. Elena's emotional state was irrelevant to Klaus, since he would still need to actually make her human, and anyway, he had given up on using her to create more hybrids long before Jeremy's death. And by the time they knew Elijah was available, as far as they knew he was working with Katherine.
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** What this troper finds irritating is how Damon is EasilyForgiven within that fandom or his actions are justified because he's an vampire and vampires are ''suppose'' to act this way yet an certain [[Literature/{{Twilight}} vampire]] gets condemned daily even though he's an far better person than Damon is.

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** What this troper finds irritating is how Damon is EasilyForgiven within that fandom or his actions are justified because he's an vampire and vampires are ''suppose'' to act this way yet an certain [[Literature/{{Twilight}} [[Literature/TheTwilightSaga vampire]] gets condemned daily even though he's an far better person than Damon is.
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*** Having just finished a Vampire Diaries Marathon,I can state with certainity that Damon NEVER uses compulsion to get sex(he doesn't need to anyway)so that throws the whole he's a rapist thing out the window.
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* Why is Julian treated like he's so powerful, and such a huge threat? In fact, why is he so powerful and such a huge threat, on the personal level? Yeah, he's decently old, but the Salvatore brothers briefly killed Elijah, an ''original'' at one point. And have fought other powerful, ancient, vampires on even terms besides. The Heretics were certainly a threat, especially as a group, but Julian specifically shouldn't be nearly as dangerous as he was, when compared to the other opponents they've gone up against.

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* Why is Julian treated like he's so powerful, and such a huge threat? In fact, why is he so powerful and such a huge threat, on the personal level? Yeah, he's decently old, but the Salvatore brothers briefly killed Elijah, an ''original'' at one point. And have fought other powerful, ancient, vampires on even terms besides. The Heretics were certainly a threat, especially as a group, but Julian specifically shouldn't be nearly as dangerous as he was, when compared to the other opponents they've gone up against.against.
* What ever happened to Jeffrey Lockwood-Hamilton and Gracie Lockwood (presumed cousins of Tyler). The two are listed as deceased on the wiki due to Alaric's claim that the Lockwood bloodline was extinguished when Tyler died, but nothing about this is ever mentioned in the show and the deaths of Founding Family members often makes a blip on the radar. While the most likely explanation is a simple retcon due to writer carelessness (one of those characters never actually appeared in person and the other was barely an extra) were they really KilledOffscreen? Simply forgotten by Alaric when he said that? Not counted due to possibly marrying out of the family (Gracie) or not being a technical Lockwood in the first place (Jeffrey, given his hyphenated name)? Or was Alaric only referring to the main line of the family with that statement?
* Julie Plec describes the Heretics as having killed thousands of people, yet from the sound of it they were trapped in the prison world shortly after becoming vampires when they went after the Gemini Coven and were defeated. Assuming that wasn't a retcon, where did they get the opportunity to kill those thousands?
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* Why is it in this show they treat 13 hour drives like they're one hour. For example, Elena driving with Damon to Georgia would be at minimum an eight hour drive and yet is treated like two to three hours. I get Damon is a vampire and if he gets pulled over, he could just compel the cop to pardon him, but he would have to stop eventually, for gas and likely rest, which would add on another few hours.

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* Why is it in this show they treat 13 hour drives like they're one hour. For example, Elena driving with Damon to Georgia would be at minimum an eight hour drive and yet is treated like two to three hours. I get Damon is a vampire and if he gets pulled over, he could just compel the cop to pardon him, but he would have to stop eventually, for gas and likely rest, which would add on another few hours.hours.
* Why is Julian treated like he's so powerful, and such a huge threat? In fact, why is he so powerful and such a huge threat, on the personal level? Yeah, he's decently old, but the Salvatore brothers briefly killed Elijah, an ''original'' at one point. And have fought other powerful, ancient, vampires on even terms besides. The Heretics were certainly a threat, especially as a group, but Julian specifically shouldn't be nearly as dangerous as he was, when compared to the other opponents they've gone up against.
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**They didn't get the memo, vampires in this story clearly need oxygen or something in the air to function. Stefan spent months I believe it was drowning and then reviving. A vampire shouldn't be able to drown in the first place in most works. It should more be he spends maybe a couple of hours and then he remember "oh yeah, I don't actually need oxygen to live, I should work on getting out now. But really all the vampires, up to and including the Originals have a habit of tragically and hilariously under utilizing their powers.
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** He probably stole blood bags from the hospital
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*** The vampire in question was part of a very old, implied to be rather rich family before he died. The house could have been part of the family holdings.
** In season 2, Elena says that she can't let Stefan into her family lake house because it was left to her uncle in her parents' will. She's joking, but both she and Stefan seem to be working under the impression that if a person dies, the person who is bequeathed their home becomes the new owner. It's likely that vamp had a will that left his home to someone else in the event of his death.

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