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* Is there no one who values courage over life?
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** It wasn't just that Joe believed something was wrong with the city. It was that he wanted to find what it was that was wrong and tear it down. There may have been others who shared Joe's line of thinking, they just weren't vocal in their dissent.
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* WordOfGod is he lived.
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In the letter, she expresses knowledge of Wiley's plans years before they come to fruition, not to mention the fact that she mentions her then-impending demise. Sure, she might have been able to figure out Wiley's plans after she walked in on him in Light's apartment, but she had the letter in-hand when she got there.
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In the letter, she expresses knowledge of Wiley's Wily's plans years before they come to fruition, not to mention the fact that she mentions her then-impending demise. Sure, she might have been able to figure out Wiley's Wily's plans after she walked in on him in Light's apartment, but she had the letter in-hand when she got there.there.
* The Intermission has her reading the letter Light sent to her, mentioning that he would weep if something terrible happens to her. She went with the wost-case scenario.
* The Intermission has her reading the letter Light sent to her, mentioning that he would weep if something terrible happens to her. She went with the wost-case scenario.
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The last we see of him is looking away from the battle. Was he killed by the robot horde or did he hide and escape?
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The last we see of him is looking away from the battle. Was he killed by the robot horde or did he hide and escape?escape?
!! How did Emily manage to write that letter?
In the letter, she expresses knowledge of Wiley's plans years before they come to fruition, not to mention the fact that she mentions her then-impending demise. Sure, she might have been able to figure out Wiley's plans after she walked in on him in Light's apartment, but she had the letter in-hand when she got there.
!! How did Emily manage to write that letter?
In the letter, she expresses knowledge of Wiley's plans years before they come to fruition, not to mention the fact that she mentions her then-impending demise. Sure, she might have been able to figure out Wiley's plans after she walked in on him in Light's apartment, but she had the letter in-hand when she got there.
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** It's debatable if that was his actual goal or not. It could easily have been Light ensuring Megaman really ''wants'' to fight and a bit reverse psychology.
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** It's debatable if that was his actual goal or not. It could easily have been Light ensuring Megaman really ''wants'' to fight and a bit reverse psychology.
psychology.
* Isn't Dr. Light in the crowd at the climax of Act I? He's given the same chance to stand with Mega Man and Protoman as everyone else, and he can't even look Mega Man in the eye.
* Isn't Dr. Light in the crowd at the climax of Act I? He's given the same chance to stand with Mega Man and Protoman as everyone else, and he can't even look Mega Man in the eye.
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* They put Wily in charge, selling their liberties by inches for his technomiracles. Then they hoped someone like Protoman and Megaman would save them from the terrifying results of their mistake. They willingly sacrificed every freedom they had and then expected someone else to swoop in and save them, without any effort on their own part, taking no responsibility for their actions. They aren't considered bad because they're afraid, they're considered bad because they repeatedly push the responsibility for their lives on other people. The only decision they ever make is to let someone else deal with their problem. When it turned out the first "someone else" that offered took advantage of them, they didn't remove him. They waited for a new "someone else" they could hoist the responsibility on. That's all they do, is find someone else they can point at and go "You fix it," that why they're not sympathetic. That's why they're the dead.
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* Joe says it best in ''Breaking Out.'' "We're given only what we need, only the chance to survive. Even then, it's a coin toss, or a roll of the dice." It's something that shows up in a lot of dystopias; everything on the surface is beautiful and perfect, and plenty of the citizens are content to not question things, but looking a little deeper reveals how bad things really are. Sure, plenty of things are taken care of for the people of The City, but it's still a dictatorship where a state-sanctioned Sniper will chase a young man all the way to the outskirts of the city to murder him for saying "there's something wrong here."
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* Joe says it best in ''Breaking Out.'' "We're given only what we need, only the chance to survive. Even then, it's a coin toss, or a roll of the dice." It's something that shows up in a lot of dystopias; everything on the surface is beautiful and perfect, and plenty of the citizens are content to not question things, but looking a little deeper reveals how bad things really are. Sure, plenty of things are taken care of for the people of The City, but it's still a dictatorship where a state-sanctioned Sniper will chase a young man all the way to the outskirts of the city to murder him for saying "there's something wrong here.""
!! Did Light die at the end of Act I?
The last we see of him is looking away from the battle. Was he killed by the robot horde or did he hide and escape?
!! Did Light die at the end of Act I?
The last we see of him is looking away from the battle. Was he killed by the robot horde or did he hide and escape?
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** I submit the case of Joe, who was not shown as anything other than an average citizen in Wily's society. Through sheer grit and a pointy object, he was able to beat a Sniper Robot. Other could do the same with whatever they had around. Each one wouldn't be able to do much, but collectively, and with a little help from Mega Man, the humans could defeat Wily. But no one fights.
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*** You are the dead. This is the exact mentality that Protoman despised. He doesn't expect everyone to fight, but NOT ONE PERSON rose to meet the challenge. In the Stand he asks if there is ONE among the crowd that will try to resist. If there was one shred of hope left in humanity it might redeem them in Protoman's eyes. And in the end they only begin to clamor for help when they are being slaughtered by Wily's robots anyway...
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*** You are the dead. This is the exact mentality that Protoman despised. He doesn't expect everyone to fight, but NOT ONE PERSON rose to meet the challenge. In the Stand he asks if there is ONE among the crowd that will try to resist. He wants to see the human spirit rise up and choose to die free than to survive under tyranny. If there was one shred of hope left in humanity it might redeem them in Protoman's eyes. And in the end they only begin to clamor for help when they are being slaughtered by Wily's robots anyway...
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*** You are the dead. This is the exact mentality that Protoman despised. He doesn't expect everyone to fight, but NOT ONE PERSON rose to meet the challenge. In the Stand he asks if there is ONE among the crowd that will try to resist. If there was one shred of hope left in humanity it might redeem them in Protoman's eyes. And in the end they only begin to clamor for help when they are being slaughtered by Wily's robots anyway...
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* Because apathy is what led them to subjugation in the first place. They hid behind Wily because he was powerful, Protoman (and MegaMan as well) do not want them to make the same mistake by simply hiding behind a powerful figure to be led by what that individual sees as right. The true test is whether they are willing to fight for what they know in their hearts to be right or if they will just follow whoever has the power.
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* My interpretation has always been that it meant that the true hope for humanity- the true solution- would be shunned, because it isnt convenient. Protoman knew that for humanity to have any hope of winning, they would have to be willing to fight.
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* My interpretation has always been that it meant that the true hope for humanity- the true solution- would be shunned, because it isnt convenient. Protoman knew that for humanity to have any hope of winning, they would have to be willing to fight.
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* If hope rides in the company of many, what is the point of hope? Hope must ride alone in order to be significant because it is the last reason to fight. When all other reasons fall into darkness, hope remains. Alone.
* If hope rides in the company of many, what is the point of hope? Hope must ride alone in order to be significant because it is the last reason to fight. When all other reasons fall into darkness, hope remains. Alone.
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** They're not willing to do anything because they're scared! Humanity is pathetic and weak and doesn't want to take a stand against the evil dictator running their lives, but they have self-preservation skills. Is that so terrible?
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** They're not willing to do anything because they're scared! terrified! Humanity is pathetic and weak under Wiley and doesn't want to take a stand against the evil dictator running their lives, but lives because they have self-preservation skills. Is that so terrible?
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** They're not willing to do anything because they're scared! Humanity is pathetic and weak and doesn't want to take a stand against the evil dictator running their lives, but they have self-preservation skills. Is that so terrible?
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* Humanity is portrayed as bad because they're not even trying to make a stand. They have someone who could help them, they have a hero, but they're not willing to do ANYTHING to try to save themselves. When Protoman first fights and calls for help, they don't even lift a finger. Yes, they're saving their own lives, but they're not supporting the one person who is doing everything to try and free them. Basically humanity is portrayed as bad for wanting a hero, but not being willing to do anything themselves.
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!! So, wait, humanity's the badguys?
Look, maybe I'm just staring at this from an odd angle, but I don't understand why we're supposed humanity in general is a terrible thing. They're scared as fuck of Wiley and his machines for good reasons. They are so damned crushed that there is no hope in their lives. Can you imagine? When Protoman first fights and he calls for help, they do the obvious thing and don't RUN TO THEIR CERTAIN DEATH IN A BATTLE THAT WILL CHANGE NOTHING TO FIGHT TERRIBLE ROBOTIC MONSTERS. During Megaman's fight with Protoman, they thought Protoman turned to the side of monstery, something that had been stalking them and forcing them to live this terrible life. His speech to them, calling them to rise up might as well been flipping them off. Why wouldn't they cheer at his death and wonder why their hero was mourning the death of who they saw as a monster?
Look, maybe I'm just staring at this from an odd angle, but I don't understand why we're supposed humanity in general is a terrible thing. They're scared as fuck of Wiley and his machines for good reasons. They are so damned crushed that there is no hope in their lives. Can you imagine? When Protoman first fights and he calls for help, they do the obvious thing and don't RUN TO THEIR CERTAIN DEATH IN A BATTLE THAT WILL CHANGE NOTHING TO FIGHT TERRIBLE ROBOTIC MONSTERS. During Megaman's fight with Protoman, they thought Protoman turned to the side of monstery, something that had been stalking them and forcing them to live this terrible life. His speech to them, calling them to rise up might as well been flipping them off. Why wouldn't they cheer at his death and wonder why their hero was mourning the death of who they saw as a monster?
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* Well, for one, the Sniper killed any dissidents. And they didn't have to work, so they grew lazy, apathetic, forgetting ''how'' to build and work.
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* Well, for one, the Sniper killed any dissidents. And they didn't have to work, so they grew lazy, apathetic, forgetting ''how'' to build and work.work.
* Joe says it best in ''Breaking Out.'' "We're given only what we need, only the chance to survive. Even then, it's a coin toss, or a roll of the dice." It's something that shows up in a lot of dystopias; everything on the surface is beautiful and perfect, and plenty of the citizens are content to not question things, but looking a little deeper reveals how bad things really are. Sure, plenty of things are taken care of for the people of The City, but it's still a dictatorship where a state-sanctioned Sniper will chase a young man all the way to the outskirts of the city to murder him for saying "there's something wrong here."
* Joe says it best in ''Breaking Out.'' "We're given only what we need, only the chance to survive. Even then, it's a coin toss, or a roll of the dice." It's something that shows up in a lot of dystopias; everything on the surface is beautiful and perfect, and plenty of the citizens are content to not question things, but looking a little deeper reveals how bad things really are. Sure, plenty of things are taken care of for the people of The City, but it's still a dictatorship where a state-sanctioned Sniper will chase a young man all the way to the outskirts of the city to murder him for saying "there's something wrong here."
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* Read the liner notes, people. It's Wily; Panther doesn't usually use his higher vocal registry when they're both there because it sounds similar to Turbo Lover.
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* Read the liner notes, people. It's Wily; Panther doesn't usually use his higher vocal registry when they're both there because it sounds similar to Turbo Lover.
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read the liner note,s people.
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* Read the liner notes, people. It's Wily; Panther doesn't usually use his higher vocal registry when they're both there because it sounds similar to Turbo Lover.
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From what it sounds like, the people in the city are enjoying a life of leisure.
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From what it sounds like, the people in the city are enjoying a life of leisure.leisure.
* Well, for one, the Sniper killed any dissidents. And they didn't have to work, so they grew lazy, apathetic, forgetting ''how'' to build and work.
* Well, for one, the Sniper killed any dissidents. And they didn't have to work, so they grew lazy, apathetic, forgetting ''how'' to build and work.
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** I always thought it was more of an implication that they didn't ''need'' to be heroes now that they could just build something else to do the heroics for them.
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** I always thought it was more of an implication that they didn't ''need'' to be heroes now that they could just build something else to do the heroics for them.them.
!! What's so bad about Wily's city before the end of Act II?
From what it sounds like, the people in the city are enjoying a life of leisure.
!! What's so bad about Wily's city before the end of Act II?
From what it sounds like, the people in the city are enjoying a life of leisure.
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* It's Wily singing. He's basically implying that men ''can't'' be heroes.
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* It's Wily singing. He's basically implying that men ''can't'' be heroes.heroes.
** I always thought it was more of an implication that they didn't ''need'' to be heroes now that they could just build something else to do the heroics for them.
** I always thought it was more of an implication that they didn't ''need'' to be heroes now that they could just build something else to do the heroics for them.
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*It's Wily singing. He's basically implying that men ''can't'' be heroes.
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*** Well, the weaponry part, you can think about it as a nice reference to the original games, in which Rock was originally just a lab assistant robot, but he asked to be modified as a fighting robot to defeat Wily, thus becoming Megaman. Maybe the Megaman of the Protomen story asked Dr. Light to modify him, and the Dr. had to do it when he wasn't able to convince him not to fight.
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*** Well, the weaponry part, you can think about it as a nice reference to the original games, in which Rock was originally just a lab assistant robot, but he asked to be modified as a fighting robot to defeat Wily, thus becoming Megaman. Maybe the Megaman of the Protomen story asked Dr. Light to modify him, and the Dr. had to do it when he wasn't able to convince him not to fight.fight.
!!Who is singing which part exactly?
on the main page, one of the main quotes is
"We will build cities in a day! (Men would cower at the sight!)
We will build towers to the heavens! (Man was not built for such a height!)
We will be heroes! (We will BUILD heroes!)
Dr. Light (Dr. Wily) The Good Doctor"
Now this always confused me a bit, because it says Wily is singing the parenthetical lines, yet the line "We Will Build Heroes" seems like something Dr. Light said, considering he does so later on at least twice. can someone clarify this for me?
!!Who is singing which part exactly?
on the main page, one of the main quotes is
"We will build cities in a day! (Men would cower at the sight!)
We will build towers to the heavens! (Man was not built for such a height!)
We will be heroes! (We will BUILD heroes!)
Dr. Light (Dr. Wily) The Good Doctor"
Now this always confused me a bit, because it says Wily is singing the parenthetical lines, yet the line "We Will Build Heroes" seems like something Dr. Light said, considering he does so later on at least twice. can someone clarify this for me?
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** They know, no suits were filed. In fact, if i remember rightly, they invited them to play comic con a couple of years back.
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** They know, no suits were filed. In fact, if i remember rightly, Indeed, they invited them to play comic con a couple of years back.
performed at Capcom's booth at ComicCon 2007.
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** Why then did he give Mega Man weaponry? and does it say anywhere how long it took Light to build MM? More and more questions.
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** Why then did he give Mega Man weaponry? and does it say anywhere how long it took Light to build MM? More and more questions.questions.
*** For one thing, the City is ''dangerous''. He didn't want to lose Mega like he did Proto. There's also a theory that Megaman designed the arm cannon himself, hiding it from him.
*** For one thing, the City is ''dangerous''. He didn't want to lose Mega like he did Proto. There's also a theory that Megaman designed the arm cannon himself, hiding it from him.
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* It took him ''12 years'' to build Protoman, with Megaman taking years, too. He doesn't have the time, resources, or will to mass-produce him. He wanted a son, not a solider. :<
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* It took him ''12 years'' to build Protoman, with Megaman taking years, too. He doesn't have the time, resources, or will to mass-produce him. He wanted a son, not a solider. :<:<
**Why then did he give Mega Man weaponry? and does it say anywhere how long it took Light to build MM? More and more questions.
**Why then did he give Mega Man weaponry? and does it say anywhere how long it took Light to build MM? More and more questions.
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Unless Dr. Light subscribed to the Protoman 'they must stand for themselves' school of thought, why didn't he just build 100, or at least 10 Mega Men? The singular has almost no problem fighting off almost all of Wily's army.
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Unless Dr. Light subscribed to the Protoman 'they must stand for themselves' school of thought, why didn't he just build 100, or at least 10 Mega Men? The singular has almost no problem fighting off almost all of Wily's army.army.
* It took him ''12 years'' to build Protoman, with Megaman taking years, too. He doesn't have the time, resources, or will to mass-produce him. He wanted a son, not a solider. :<
* It took him ''12 years'' to build Protoman, with Megaman taking years, too. He doesn't have the time, resources, or will to mass-produce him. He wanted a son, not a solider. :<
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** They know, no suits were filed. In fact, if i remember rightly, they invited them to play comic con a couple of years back.
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** They know, no suits were filed. In fact, if i remember rightly, they invited them to play comic con a couple of years back.back.
!!Why didn't Dr. Light just mass produce Mega Men?
Unless Dr. Light subscribed to the Protoman 'they must stand for themselves' school of thought, why didn't he just build 100, or at least 10 Mega Men? The singular has almost no problem fighting off almost all of Wily's army.
!!Why didn't Dr. Light just mass produce Mega Men?
Unless Dr. Light subscribed to the Protoman 'they must stand for themselves' school of thought, why didn't he just build 100, or at least 10 Mega Men? The singular has almost no problem fighting off almost all of Wily's army.
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**Capcom knows very well about TheMegas, who cover MM songs, have lyrics that use character names, etc. They most likely have also heard of (and knowing the [[OneOfUs Capcom Blog]], enjoyed) TheProtomen.
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**Capcom knows very well about TheMegas, who cover MM songs, have lyrics that use character names, etc. They most likely have also heard of (and knowing the [[OneOfUs Capcom Blog]], enjoyed) TheProtomen.TheProtomen.
** They know, no suits were filed. In fact, if i remember rightly, they invited them to play comic con a couple of years back.
** They know, no suits were filed. In fact, if i remember rightly, they invited them to play comic con a couple of years back.
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