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**** Sadly, upon close inspection and the help of [[http://tea-kitten.tumblr.com/post/31489705669/view-in-hi-res-this-is-for-the-people-who This post]].]], this is not the case. Loki's eyes remain the same shade of blue throughout the entirety of both Thor and the Avengers. Any change is likely the result of lighting differences and nothing more.
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*** There is a slight problem with that thinking: The Avengesrs movie didn't cover the tech humanity actually has. For example [[http://youtu.be/UBTbhSFfuNM this]], and [[http://youtu.be/K2yRhVXKEXU this]], and [[http://youtu.be/IrY_E2S54jo this]], and [[http://youtu.be/wa_vuX5_oAk]]. Then there are also things like [[http://youtu.be/JPdfWeXMMk0 this]] and [[http://youtu.be/1fCZvOHd5dg this.]] I think humanity could handle the Chitari.
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** My read on that scene was not that of a rape fear (which seems to me to only be a fear of women on the internet (see Jezebel's website), and past survivors. The women I've encountered have never even mentioned that as a fear until it was brought up (and sometimes not even then. Being that Natasha is a trained spy with "red in her ledger," my guess is that she's killed someone slowly before, and that she might fear being killed that way. It may not have even had to do with her being a woman. I think his remark about killing her "in every way you fear," would have worked on Cap, or any of the others just as well.
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* While I don't entirely disagree with you(I personally dislike Pym but find the hate he gets to be undeserved), I think the main point here isn't that he's trying to recruit a villain, but that he's trying to recruit ''Loki''. I have to think even Cap would get some side ways looks for trying to recruit Loki, and if Tony did it, everyone would ask if he's back off the wagon.
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***The mainstream, non fan-girl perspective jab is completely unnecessary (and untrue, since there's clear support of Iron Man going on in the "arguments"). And the movie makes the parallels between Stark and Loki so blatant that, at the end, Stark figures out where Loki is by realizing that Loki would do what he (Stark) did in the first place (that is, a gigantic monument to himself).
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*** The WSC guy never makes any mention of the weapon being used, Fury is the one to say "Nuclear Strike". The missile that Tony puts up on the Heilcarrier screen is a ICBM of some sort not a air launched weapon like we saw (specifically a JSOW albeit one without wings and with a engine). So I have to say that it being a Phase 2 nuke is pretty unlikely. Given that the JSOW is not actually a nuclear weapon this is only speculation but the usual warhead for American cruse missiles is the W80 with a maximum yield of 150kt and a minimum of 5kt. One would hope the WSC would dial the yield down to the lower levels. So while many people would be killed the destruction would not be on a regional scale.
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**** Also, there are other trickster gods in other mythologies, and many of them aren't cruel or evil. Hermes is one such example, and by the standards of the Greek Gods, Hermes is downright ''benevolent''.
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These are questions that can\' be answered until said sequels are released.
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* So... what precisely is Thanos going to be doing that somehow makes him NOT the villain of the Avengers sequel? I know that there are characters who will have some sort of relation to Thanos in the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy movie (speaking of which, since I've heard nothing to say that any characters from GotG will appear in TA2, will there be any real point to their characters in the grand scheme of the movies creating the build up to the Avengers movies?) but other than this there seems to be absolutely nothing to indicate any role Thanos has within TA2. So what was the point of introducing Thanos at the end of TA when he's not going to be the main villain in Age of Ultron, if he even appears in that movie?
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***more likely he wanted to give Tony some time to think about why he was going to die.
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**This troper saw it as "making THESE weapons were bad", not weapons in general. Tesseract-based weapons would end up bringing more trouble than they would solve. Other weapons, or a more careful progression, would be fine. If Fury had his way, the Avengers Inititive wouldn't have been a snarky rag-tag of a couple of supers, but a more numerous better-trained force of supers backed by supernormals and SHIELD Agents weilding awesome Stark tech.
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No, it isn\'t. Don\'t start this up again. We went through a huge thread last time, when there is nothing at all at any point ever coming anywhere close to remotely suggesting this. Please. Leave it alone.
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** Tony's chest reactor is based off of his father's arc reactor which in turn is based of of the Tessaract. Perhaps it's pseudo-tessaract properties are what stopped the mind control.
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** If the portal was one-way, Iron Man and the nuke wouldn't have gone through. Asgardian magic science seems the best answer.
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** Tony's chest reactor is based off of his father's arc reactor which in turn is based of of the Tessaract. Perhaps it's pseudo-tessaract properties are what stopped the mind control.
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*** Not sure that's what Thor/Tony meant. Thor could easily have been referring to the senseless destruction the Chitauri were causing at the behest of [[spoiler: Thanos]] and Tony even admits the Chitauri might overwhelm the Avengers. If it gets to that point, the Avengers kill Loki, not "the normal humans of this world will beat you down Loki." I've covered above why specifically in New York the Chitauri flyers are deadly. The Leviathans may not carry weapons but what do we have that can handle one flying into us? They're only vulnerable to explosives on the inside and their armor shrugs off everything Tony Stark has got from the outside (a guy who has a suit of armor which can and has wiped the floor with tanks and fighter jets 3 upgrades ago), and he is badly pressed by the Chitauri on multiple occasions.
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And, again, I get confused about what\'s being talked about, and address the wrong point. Sorry.
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*** You're remembering the sequence of events out of order. The explosion of the first leviathan does jack squat to him. He doesn't wind up on the ground until after he'd done a Jonah on that other leviathan. After Hulk punches the first leviathan, it flops over backward in dramatic slow motion. Bending at such an extreme angle causes its armor to buckle and break. Tony then fires a missile into a large, obvious bare spot on its back. There is one minor nitpick about that scene, and that was that Tony fired before the hole became visible, but that's more SpecialEffectsFailure than anything.
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*** You're remembering the sequence of events out of order. The explosion of the first leviathan does jack squat to him. He doesn't wind up on the ground until after he'd done a Jonah on that other leviathan. After Hulk punches the first leviathan, it flops over backward in dramatic slow motion. Bending at such an extreme angle causes its armor to buckle and break. Tony then fires a missile into a large, obvious bare spot on its back. There is one minor nitpick about that scene, and that was that Tony fired before the hole became visible, but that's more SpecialEffectsFailure than anything.
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** Original poster here. I took a search for it myself during my rewatch of the movie, and it seems it's hard to see because Banner's hair is grey and as the Hulk's chest his chest has stretched so much. Couldn't spot any except for one shot, right before the Hulk smashes Loki.
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** Original poster here. I took a search for it myself during my rewatch of the movie, and it seems it's hard to see because Banner's hair is grey and as the Hulk's chest Hulk his chest has stretched so much. Couldn't spot any except for one shot, right before the Hulk smashes Loki.
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So, everyone flips out at Pym for offering Loki to join the Avengers, despite the Avengers recruiting ex-supervillains since the 60's with Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch? If it were Cap or Iron Man asking Loki to join, they all would have loved the idea. But since everyone hates Pym's guts for doing [[TheUnfairSex the exact same thing every female love interest of every superhero ever]] has done, suddenly they all hate the idea. I re-enterate: WhatTheHellHero!?
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So, everyone flips out at Pym for offering Loki to join the Avengers, despite the Avengers recruiting ex-supervillains since the 60's with Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch? If it were Cap or Iron Man asking Loki to join, they all would have loved the idea. But since everyone hates Pym's guts for doing [[TheUnfairSex the exact same thing every female love interest of every superhero ever]] has done, suddenly they all hate the idea. I re-enterate: WhatTheHellHero!?
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Misuse of the trope. It\'s for when the characters call each other out, not when you do.
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So, everyone flips out at Pym for offering Loki to join the Avengers, despite the Avengers recruiting ex-supervillains since the 60's with Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch? WhatTheHellHero indeed. If it were Cap or Iron Man asking Loki to join, they all would have loved the idea. But since everyone hates Pym's guts for doing [[TheUnfairSex the exact same thing every female love interest of every superhero ever]] has done, suddenly they all hate the idea. I re-enterate: WhatTheHellHero!?
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So, everyone flips out at Pym for offering Loki to join the Avengers, despite the Avengers recruiting ex-supervillains since the 60's with Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch? WhatTheHellHero indeed. If it were Cap or Iron Man asking Loki to join, they all would have loved the idea. But since everyone hates Pym's guts for doing [[TheUnfairSex the exact same thing every female love interest of every superhero ever]] has done, suddenly they all hate the idea. I re-enterate: WhatTheHellHero!?
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*** Definitely multi-national. In ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' they are shown to have jurisdiction and agents operating in China.
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*** Can't possibly be connected to the UN. They actually succeeded in fulfilling their goals (I'm only half joking). It could be multi-national due to the World Security Council or a domestic US agency due to what S.H.I.E.L.D. stands for. I still highly doubt it would have anything to do with the UN, though. Too many countries involved for things to go well in that case.
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** The order was not to Hurt the Hulk but to Get His Attention. Imagine what would happen if said pilot was shooting from a mile away? The Hulk would feel something hitting it's skin, would look around and wouldn't find anything he could punch in the face. So pissed off by the bullets he'd start tearing the place up. With the plane so close Hulk had a target to focus on, target which got him Out of the Hellicarrier so he wouldn't be able to destroy anything more.
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** The order was not to Hurt the Hulk but to Get His Attention. Imagine what would happen if said pilot was shooting from a mile away? The Hulk would feel something hitting it's skin, would look around and wouldn't find anything he could punch in the face. So pissed off by the bullets he'd start tearing the place up. With the plane so close Hulk had a target to focus on, target which got him Out of the Hellicarrier so he wouldn't be able to destroy anything more. Remember that hurting or killing the Hulk is never an option because he is just too damn tough. The best you can hope for is to get him somewhere remote where he won't have anything to destroy, will calm down and revert into Banner.
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** The order was not to Hurt the Hulk but to Get His Attention. Imagine what would happen if said pilot was shooting from a mile away? The Hulk would feel something hitting it's skin, would look around and wouldn't find anything he could punch in the face. So pissed off by the bullets he'd start tearing the place up. With the plane so close Hulk had a target to focus on, target which got him Out of the Hellicarrier so he wouldn't be able to destroy anything more.
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** The shadowy people are the World Security Council. Despite them being shadowy, their names and which countries they represent are clear on the screen, so they've got some kind of official sanction.
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** If the Pentagon couldn't figure it out, then likely neither can we.
