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* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?
** [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
** A note in ''Black Plague'' describes [[spoiler:suicide under the influence of the Tuurngait]] as being "against the rules" in those exact works.
** [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
** A note in ''Black Plague'' describes [[spoiler:suicide under the influence of the Tuurngait]] as being "against the rules" in those exact works.
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* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] die so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] suicide 'against the rules'?
**[[spoiler:Because Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
** A note in ''Black Plague'' describes[[spoiler:suicide suicide under the influence of the Tuurngait]] Tuurngait as being "against the rules" in those exact works.
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** A note in ''Black Plague'' describes
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* If the [[spoiler:Amabel]] monster is just a hallucination, then why is [[spoiler:she]] trying to kill you? Shouldn't it have just stood there or something?
** The attack was hallucination, too, obviously. [[spoiler:She was rushing to give you the cure or a hug, or something.]]
** Alternatively, [[spoiler:Amabel had been turned by the Tuurngait virus and Clarence only made it look like you had murdered her to mess with you.]]
*** This is false. Penumbra writer Tom Jubert has stated that Amabel is [[spoiler:"the same person the moment she dies as she is when she meets the player."]]
** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him and she only looked like a monster due to a hallucination. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious throughout the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
** The attack was hallucination, too, obviously. [[spoiler:She was rushing to give you the cure or a hug, or something.]]
** Alternatively, [[spoiler:Amabel had been turned by the Tuurngait virus and Clarence only made it look like you had murdered her to mess with you.]]
*** This is false. Penumbra writer Tom Jubert has stated that Amabel is [[spoiler:"the same person the moment she dies as she is when she meets the player."]]
** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him and she only looked like a monster due to a hallucination. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious throughout the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
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* If the [[spoiler:Amabel]] Amabel monster is just a hallucination, then why is [[spoiler:she]] she trying to kill you? Shouldn't it have just stood there or something?
** The attack was hallucination, too, obviously.[[spoiler:She She was rushing to give you the cure or a hug, or something.]]
something.
** Alternatively,[[spoiler:Amabel Amabel had been turned by the Tuurngait virus and Clarence only made it look like you had murdered her to mess with you.]]
you.
*** This is false. Penumbra writer Tom Jubert has stated that Amabel is[[spoiler:"the "the same person the moment she dies as she is when she meets the player."]]
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** It's also possible that[[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him and she only looked like a monster due to a hallucination. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious throughout the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
** The attack was hallucination, too, obviously.
** Alternatively,
*** This is false. Penumbra writer Tom Jubert has stated that Amabel is
** It's also possible that
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*** This is false. Penumbra writer Tom Jubert has stated that Amabel is [[spoiler:"the same person the moment she dies as she is when she meets the player."
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*** This is false. Penumbra writer Tom Jubert has stated that Amabel is [[spoiler:"the same person the moment she dies as she is when she meets the player.""]]
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** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him and she only looked like a monster due to a hallucination. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious through out the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
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** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him and she only looked like a monster due to a hallucination. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious through out throughout the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
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** Could be caused by the madness of being reinfected...
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** Could be caused by the madness of being reinfected...reinfected...
** I think it's the afterlife, as characters who died during the previous games are apparently also there.
** I think it's the afterlife, as characters who died during the previous games are apparently also there.
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** A note in ''Black Plague'' describes [[spoiler:suicide under the influence of the Tuurngait]] as being "against the rules" in those exact works.
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** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious through out the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
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** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him.him and she only looked like a monster due to a hallucination. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious through out the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
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** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Amabel used Philip to clear a way out of the facility and once he did that she saw him as hinderence and tried to kill him. This would explain why she comes across as so innocent yet mildly flirtatious through out the game despite working in a morally bankrupt science facility. Her sweet personality was just her trying to manipulate Phillip into helping her.]]
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** Eat people most likely. No survivors allowed or word may get to the surface.
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* What's going on in ''Requiem''? If it is in Phillip's imagination, why is he imagining all of that? If it is real, why does the Archaic have all these facilities?
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* What's going on in ''Requiem''? If it is in Phillip's imagination, why is he imagining all of that? If it is real, why does the Archaic have all these facilities?facilities?
** Could be caused by the madness of being reinfected...
** Could be caused by the madness of being reinfected...
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*** The ice could be melted by lighting a fire under the frozen hatch, and this has been done once or twice in real-life mines in winter. The one-way trap door, though, would require either some serious McGyvering or brute force.
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** One of the [[spoiler:Tuurngait zombies.]]
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** Alternatively, [[spoiler:Amabel had been turned by the Tuurngait virus and Clarence only made it look like you had murdered her to mess with you.]]
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** Do you remember how Phillip opened that hatch in the first place? He had to bash the ice off of it with a rock, anyone trapped below that hatch wouldn't be able to break the ice like Phillip did. That's not even mentioning the trap door below that which could only be opened using a mechanism from above it...
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* What was the deal with the giant worms? Were they mutated by the Tuurngait? Why?
* Why did any of the people trapped in the mine area just stack a bunch of boxes and reach that hatch that Phillip entered through?
* Why did any of the people trapped in the mine area just stack a bunch of boxes and reach that hatch that Phillip entered through?
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* Why
* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?
** [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
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* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?
** [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?
** [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
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* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?
** [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
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* What was the deal with the giant worms? Were they mutated by the Tuurngait? Why?
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* What was the deal with the giant worms? Were they mutated by the Tuurngait? Why?
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** The attack was hallucination, too, obviously. [[spoiler:She was rushing to give you the cure or a hug, or something.
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* If the [[spoiler:Amabel]] monster is just a hallucination, then why is [[spoiler:she]] trying to kill you? Shouldn't it have just stood there or something?
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* If the [[spoiler:Amabel]] monster is just a hallucination, then why is [[spoiler:she]] trying to kill you? Shouldn't it have just stood there or something?something?
** The attack was hallucination, too, obviously. [[spoiler:She was rushing to give you the cure or a hug, or something.
** The attack was hallucination, too, obviously. [[spoiler:She was rushing to give you the cure or a hug, or something.
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* [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
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* [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.did.
* If the [[spoiler:Amabel]] monster is just a hallucination, then why is [[spoiler:she]] trying to kill you? Shouldn't it have just stood there or something?
* If the [[spoiler:Amabel]] monster is just a hallucination, then why is [[spoiler:she]] trying to kill you? Shouldn't it have just stood there or something?
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* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?
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* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?rules'?
* [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
* [[spoiler:Because Red was infected with the Tuurngait, a virus that is sentient, and thus probably wouldn't allow its host to commit suicide. And by the time you find Red, he has been trapped for around 30 years.]] So that might explain what he did.
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* Why did Red wish to [[spoiler:die]] so much in ''Overture''? Why was [[spoiler:suicide]] 'against the rules'?
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* What was the deal with the giant worms? Were they mutated by the Tuurngait? Why?
* Why did any of the people trapped in the mine area just stack a bunch of boxes and reach that hatch that Phillip entered through?
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* What's going on in ''Requiem''? If it is in Phillip's imagination, why is he imagining all of that? If it is real, why does the Archaic have all these facilities?
* Why did any of the people trapped in the mine area just stack a bunch of boxes and reach that hatch that Phillip entered through?
* Who knocked out Phillip at the end of ''Overture''?
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* Why did any of the people trapped in the mine area just stack a bunch of boxes and reach that hatch that Phillip entered through?
* Who knocked out Phillip at the end of ''Overture''?
* What's going on in ''Requiem''? If it is in Phillip's imagination, why is he imagining all of that? If it is real, why does the Archaic have all these facilities?
* Why did any of the people trapped in the mine area just stack a bunch of boxes and reach that hatch that Phillip entered through?
* Who knocked out Phillip at the end of ''Overture''?
* What's going on in ''Requiem''? If it is in Phillip's imagination, why is he imagining all of that? If it is real, why does the Archaic have all these facilities?
