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** He was going to take Lilo away because Nani wasn't able to find a job. He specifically said that he could forgive some of her shortcomings (and Lilo being home alone ''was'' one of them), but a job was the one thing she ''could not'' go without. Nani was just hoping that he would relent if she could show that she was employed.
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** He was going to take Lilo away because Nani wasn't able to find a job. He specifically said that he could forgive some of her shortcomings (and Lilo being home alone ''was'' one of them), but a job was the one thing she ''could not'' go without. Nani was just hoping that he would relent if she could show that she was employed.employed.
* So after the disaster while surfing, when Cobra tells Nani he'll have to take Lilo away, David tells Stitch "I really thought they had a chance, then you came along". While I understand that Stitch was responsible for several mishaps for Nani and Lilo, including Nani losing her job, I don't understand how things would have been better for them even if Stitch hadn't entered the picture. The first time Cobra visited was just one bad impression after another from Nani and Lilo, and Cobra even made a point on how his first meeting didn't bode well at all for them, so what made David think Stitch was solely responsible for their state of affairs?
* So after the disaster while surfing, when Cobra tells Nani he'll have to take Lilo away, David tells Stitch "I really thought they had a chance, then you came along". While I understand that Stitch was responsible for several mishaps for Nani and Lilo, including Nani losing her job, I don't understand how things would have been better for them even if Stitch hadn't entered the picture. The first time Cobra visited was just one bad impression after another from Nani and Lilo, and Cobra even made a point on how his first meeting didn't bode well at all for them, so what made David think Stitch was solely responsible for their state of affairs?
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* In the original film, Jumba lies to the Grand Councilwoman that he has created only one experiment in the hopes of getting a reduced sentence, and yet refers to the experiment as "Experiment 626" (which of course heavily implies that 625 others exist). This raises two questions: Why did Jumba contradict himself instead of calling Experiment 626 a different name (or not naming it at all), and why didn't the Ground Councilwoman question this extremely suspicious name?
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* In the original film, Jumba lies to the Grand Councilwoman that he has created only one experiment in the hopes of getting a reduced sentence, and yet refers to the experiment as "Experiment 626" (which of course heavily implies that 625 others exist). This raises two questions: Why did Jumba contradict himself instead of calling Experiment 626 a different name (or not naming it at all), and why didn't the Ground Grand Councilwoman question this extremely suspicious name?
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* In the original film, Jumba lies to the Grand Councilwoman that he has created only one experiment in the hopes of getting a reduced sentence, and yet refers to the experiment as "Experiment 626" (which of course strongly heavily implies that 625 others exist). This raises two questions: Why did Jumba contradict himself instead of calling Experiment 626 a different name (or not naming it at all), and why didn't the Ground Councilwoman question this extremely suspicious name?
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* In the original film, Jumba lies to the Grand Councilwoman that he has created only one experiment in the hopes of getting a reduced sentence, and yet refers to the experiment as "Experiment 626" (which of course heavily strongly implies that 625 others exist). This raises two questions: Why did Jumba contradict himself instead of calling Experiment 626 a different name (or not naming it at all), and why didn't the Ground Councilwoman question this extremely suspicious name?
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*** This would make some sense. When calculating where Stitch's pod will land, the person running the numbers actually mispronounces Earth's name as "Eee-arth," and she isn't corrected by anyone. Maybe the Councilwoman didn't realize based on that that it was the same planet.
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* Why does Nani go with David to the job interview he arranged for her at that store if Cobra Bubbles had already stated that he was going to take Lilo away that same morning? He wasn't going to change his mind, and it would not have been appropiate for Nani to be there when Cobra arrived for Lilo?
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* Why does Nani go with David to the job interview he arranged for her at that store if Cobra Bubbles had already stated that he was going to take Lilo away that same morning? He wasn't going to change his mind, and it would not have been appropiate appropriate for Nani to be there when Cobra arrived for Lilo?Lilo?
** He was going to take Lilo away because Nani wasn't able to find a job. He specifically said that he could forgive some of her shortcomings (and Lilo being home alone ''was'' one of them), but a job was the one thing she ''could not'' go without. Nani was just hoping that he would relent if she could show that she was employed.
** He was going to take Lilo away because Nani wasn't able to find a job. He specifically said that he could forgive some of her shortcomings (and Lilo being home alone ''was'' one of them), but a job was the one thing she ''could not'' go without. Nani was just hoping that he would relent if she could show that she was employed.
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* Stitch is supposed to be an organic creature, right? But when Jumba uses terms like "glitch and "circuits" on him, It's really hard to believe he's not a robot.
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* Stitch is supposed to be an organic creature, right? But when Jumba uses terms like "glitch and "circuits" on him, It's really hard to believe he's not a robot.robot.
* Shouldn't Lilo and Stitch have gotten into trouble for knocking Mertle Edmonds off of her tricycle and stealing it? Even if Mertle deserved it and Stitch did so to escape from Jumba, they still assaulted Mertle and she has two friends of hers as witnesses...
* Why does Nani bring Lilo and Stitch to her job interviews if all what they did was to cause problems? It was Stitch the one who got her fired from her previous job! Okay, maybe she didn't think that they would cause trouble, but after her first failed interview, why didn't she just tell them to go away for a while as she struggled to find employment? She could have gotten that job as lifeguard!
* If Cobra Bubbles was on the beach watching from afar the scene Stitch caused by nearly drowning Lilo when Jumba and Pleakley tried to arrest him, why didn't he see Jumba and Pleakley bouncing away? Nani and David understandably didn't spot them because their focus was on saving Lilo, but Cobra was there the whole time, so why didn't he assume that those two guys who came out from the sea had something to do with it? Besides, why didn't he run into the sea to rescue Lilo if his goal was to keep her safe?
* Why do the fire fighters hold Nani as she yells at Cobra Bubbles for trying to take Lilo away? It's not their job and they should keep their focus on putting out the fire.
* Why does Nani go with David to the job interview he arranged for her at that store if Cobra Bubbles had already stated that he was going to take Lilo away that same morning? He wasn't going to change his mind, and it would not have been appropiate for Nani to be there when Cobra arrived for Lilo?
* Shouldn't Lilo and Stitch have gotten into trouble for knocking Mertle Edmonds off of her tricycle and stealing it? Even if Mertle deserved it and Stitch did so to escape from Jumba, they still assaulted Mertle and she has two friends of hers as witnesses...
* Why does Nani bring Lilo and Stitch to her job interviews if all what they did was to cause problems? It was Stitch the one who got her fired from her previous job! Okay, maybe she didn't think that they would cause trouble, but after her first failed interview, why didn't she just tell them to go away for a while as she struggled to find employment? She could have gotten that job as lifeguard!
* If Cobra Bubbles was on the beach watching from afar the scene Stitch caused by nearly drowning Lilo when Jumba and Pleakley tried to arrest him, why didn't he see Jumba and Pleakley bouncing away? Nani and David understandably didn't spot them because their focus was on saving Lilo, but Cobra was there the whole time, so why didn't he assume that those two guys who came out from the sea had something to do with it? Besides, why didn't he run into the sea to rescue Lilo if his goal was to keep her safe?
* Why do the fire fighters hold Nani as she yells at Cobra Bubbles for trying to take Lilo away? It's not their job and they should keep their focus on putting out the fire.
* Why does Nani go with David to the job interview he arranged for her at that store if Cobra Bubbles had already stated that he was going to take Lilo away that same morning? He wasn't going to change his mind, and it would not have been appropiate for Nani to be there when Cobra arrived for Lilo?
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** Considering Cobra's unconvinced tone when Lilo tells him that Stitch is her dog, and his ties with the Galactic Federation, I think the movie implies that he knows that Stitch is an extraterrestrial of some kind, or at the very least not a dog as Lilo and Nani think. With this in mind, Cobra's order to make Stitch a model citizen may not have been his way to ensure that Nani is a responsible parent (note that he addresses Lilo when he gives this order) so much as it was to make sure Stitch is a good influence on Lilo and the people around her, and not a destructive conflict in an already severe situation.
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*** FridgeBrilliance: Technically, almost ''everything's'' molecular density is greater than water; i.e. things tend to sink more often than they float, so it's not that Stitch's molecular density particularly imperils him; it's that water is rare almost everywhere in the galaxy, as pointed out when the alien commander has to ask what all that blue stuff is as Stitch's ship falls toward Earth. Boiled down, [[ExplainingTheJoke the joke is]] that aliens are so unfamiliar with water that they've never heard of ''swimming''.
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*** FridgeBrilliance: Technically, almost ''everything's'' molecular density is greater than water; i.e. things tend to sink more often than they float, so it's not that Stitch's molecular density particularly imperils him; it's that water is rare almost everywhere in the galaxy, as pointed out when the alien commander has to ask what all that blue stuff is as Stitch's ship falls toward Earth. Boiled down, [[ExplainingTheJoke the joke is]] is that aliens are so unfamiliar with water that they've never heard of ''swimming''.
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* Stitch is supposed to be an organic creature, right? But when Jumba uses terms like "glitch and "circuits" on him, It's really hard to believe He's not a robot.
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* Stitch is supposed to be an organic creature, right? But when Jumba uses terms like "glitch and "circuits" on him, It's really hard to believe He's he's not a robot.
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* So Cobra Bubbles tells Nani that if she wants to keep Lilo, she has to find a job and turn Stitch into a model citizen. Finding a job makes perfect sense. But why does having what Cobra believes is a badly-behaved dog automatically mean that Nani is an unsuitable parent? And if it does, why doesn't he give a more reasonable ultimatum, such as "either train that dog properly or find it a new home?"
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* So Cobra Bubbles tells Nani that if she wants to keep Lilo, she has to find a job and turn Stitch into a model citizen. Finding a job makes perfect sense. But why does having what Cobra believes is a badly-behaved dog automatically mean that Nani is an unsuitable parent? And if it does, why doesn't he give a more reasonable ultimatum, such as "either train that dog properly or find it a new home?"home?"
* Stitch is supposed to be an organic creature, right? But when Jumba uses terms like "glitch and "circuits" on him, It's really hard to believe He's not a robot.
* Stitch is supposed to be an organic creature, right? But when Jumba uses terms like "glitch and "circuits" on him, It's really hard to believe He's not a robot.
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** The Grand Councilwoman probably never knew much about Jumba's 625 previous experiments, and probably just assumed that even if he DID have 625, they were not in the field of genetic engineering. Jumba probably does chemistry and robotics too.
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** Also, Lilo is probably only around 6 at the most and already clearly dealing very badly with her parents' deaths - which also seems to have been a fairly recent tragedy given that both she and Nani look to be roughly the same age in her photograph with their parents. Look at what occurs early in the film: her "friends" reject her so she barricades herself in the house with a hammer and nails and outright states that she wants to die. In that situation, no you do '''not''' want to tell that kid that they're about to be separated from their only living relative to be placed into the care of complete strangers. Cobra doesn't even tell her what's going on ''even as he's preparing to take her away''. It's clear that she really doesn't understand the full implication of Cobra's purpose as her social worker (she looks confused when Cobra puts her in the car after their house is destroyed and then positively horrified when she hears Nani yell that he can't take her); it's likely that she merely assumed Nani's comment about her being taken away was a threat made in the heat of an argument which is why ''she'' then shoots back with her comment about Nani selling her and buying a rabbit, rather than an actual and very real possibility. Lilo is established early on as a strange and troubled but fundamentally good and well-meaning child who doesn't really want to get into trouble and doesn't want to be separated from her sister: even if Nani had sat her down and explained the situation to her so that she absolutely understood, the issues Lilo was already dealing with plus her age would have likely meant that the information would only scare her.
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*** ^ Not to mention it would mean considerably more work for the animators, adding a bunch of chickens in half the shots and making them react to whatever's going on at the time.
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*** ^ Not to mention it would mean considerably more work for the animators, adding a bunch of chickens in half the shots and making them react to whatever's going on at the time.time.
* So Cobra Bubbles tells Nani that if she wants to keep Lilo, she has to find a job and turn Stitch into a model citizen. Finding a job makes perfect sense. But why does having what Cobra believes is a badly-behaved dog automatically mean that Nani is an unsuitable parent? And if it does, why doesn't he give a more reasonable ultimatum, such as "either train that dog properly or find it a new home?"
* So Cobra Bubbles tells Nani that if she wants to keep Lilo, she has to find a job and turn Stitch into a model citizen. Finding a job makes perfect sense. But why does having what Cobra believes is a badly-behaved dog automatically mean that Nani is an unsuitable parent? And if it does, why doesn't he give a more reasonable ultimatum, such as "either train that dog properly or find it a new home?"
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* What is it called when the viewer is wrenched by the helplessness of the character? The more minor example from the movie is when Jumba's ship is following Gantu's and he says "We stay close, hope for a miracle. That's all we can do."
** ...That feels less like a question about this movie and more like something you'd ask in the trope forums.
** ...That feels less like a question about this movie and more like something you'd ask in the trope forums.
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** No, Nani ''did'' tell Lilo that she could get taken away, and it worked. At the very start of the film she asks Lilo "do you want to get taken away?" after the disastrous meeting with Cobra Bubbles which Lilo resentfully contributed to. After that argument is resolved, Lilo tries to be good in her own eccentric way, and, per Cobra Bubbles' request, tries to reform Stitch into a "model citizen." Stitch was the problem. Stitch did not understand (until David unintentionally guilt-tripped him) that he was screwing Lilo and Nani over by constantly destroying things and getting Lilo in trouble, and Nani sure isn't going to try explaining Social Services to something she thinks is a dog (a dog she can't even get rid of after the Ohana speech, mind.) Nani then telling Lilo that it's going to be her fault she's being taken away in that context would have been ''cruel'', not productive.
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*** The fact that it is later revealed that they do exist doesn't make the above explaination that they are only theoretical experiments any less plausible though. In the context of the movie we have no reason to believe the other 625 experiments are living creatures either, it's not until the TV series that it's shown that they actually do exist.
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*** The fact that it is later revealed that they do exist doesn't make the above explaination explanation that they are only theoretical experiments any less plausible though. In the context of the movie we have no reason to believe the other 625 experiments are living creatures either, it's not until [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries the TV series series]] that it's shown that they actually do exist.exist.
*** '''''Except''''' that there were already ''two'' prequel works--[[ComicStrip/ComicZoneLiloAndStitch a number of comic strips]] and a [[VideoGame/StitchExperiment626 PlayStation 2 game]]--released before the original film came out that already showed that Jumba already made genetic experiments before Experiment 626. Both those works make it very clear, however, that 626 was Jumba's first experiment that he considers a ''real'' success; he even berated his earlier experiments within earshot of them in the comics and the game (the latter of which showed that his words had negative repercussions). Not only that, it has been clearly established throughout the franchise that Jumba tends to be a BadLiar, hence his lame attempt to get a reduced sentence; bad liars contradict themselves quite easily. As for the Grand Councilwoman, she was likely so appalled by 626's presence and so focused on the current situation at hand once she sees him that her mind couldn't be bothered to question almost anything else because this ''thing'' actually exists and it's such a threat to society that they need to get rid of it as soon as possible.
*** '''''Except''''' that there were already ''two'' prequel works--[[ComicStrip/ComicZoneLiloAndStitch a number of comic strips]] and a [[VideoGame/StitchExperiment626 PlayStation 2 game]]--released before the original film came out that already showed that Jumba already made genetic experiments before Experiment 626. Both those works make it very clear, however, that 626 was Jumba's first experiment that he considers a ''real'' success; he even berated his earlier experiments within earshot of them in the comics and the game (the latter of which showed that his words had negative repercussions). Not only that, it has been clearly established throughout the franchise that Jumba tends to be a BadLiar, hence his lame attempt to get a reduced sentence; bad liars contradict themselves quite easily. As for the Grand Councilwoman, she was likely so appalled by 626's presence and so focused on the current situation at hand once she sees him that her mind couldn't be bothered to question almost anything else because this ''thing'' actually exists and it's such a threat to society that they need to get rid of it as soon as possible.
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**** The fact that it is later revealed that they do exist doesn't make the above explaination that they are only theoretical experiments any less plausible though. In the context of the movie we have no reason to believe the other 625 experiments are living creatures either, it's not until the TV series that it's shown that they actually do exist.
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*** The whole thing doesn't really make a lot of sense, since they are talking about "gassing" an entire planet just to take out Stitch. Considering that ''everything'' on a non-spacefaring planet could only be found there, ''anything'' on that planet qualifies as an endangered species in that situation.
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*** Interesting. If I had to guess, I'd say they probably worried that having a bunch of chickens wandering around would seem random and out-of-place to general audiences who aren't familiar with this fact. They didn't want them to be distracted by something completely impertinent to any given scene, even if it ''is'' appropriate to the location in which the story is set.
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*** Interesting. If I had to guess, I'd say they probably worried that having a bunch of chickens wandering around would seem random and out-of-place to general audiences who aren't familiar with this fact. They didn't want them to be distracted by something completely impertinent to any given scene, even if it ''is'' appropriate to the location in which the story is set.set.
*** ^ Not to mention it would mean considerably more work for the animators, adding a bunch of chickens in half the shots and making them react to whatever's going on at the time.
*** ^ Not to mention it would mean considerably more work for the animators, adding a bunch of chickens in half the shots and making them react to whatever's going on at the time.
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*** Kaua'i is known for having a high amount of chickens that roam around its landscape, so it's unusual for this movie to not feature chickens roaming the island. (Oddly enough, ''Disney/LiloAndStitch2StitchHasAGlitch'' actually does feature one chicken that shows up in front of Lilo and Stitch in one scene.)
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*** Kaua'i is known for having a high amount of chickens that roam around its landscape, so it's unusual for this movie to not feature chickens roaming the island. (Oddly enough, ''Disney/LiloAndStitch2StitchHasAGlitch'' ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch2StitchHasAGlitch'' actually does feature one chicken that shows up in front of Lilo and Stitch in one scene.)
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*** The first 625 experiments are all actual creatures, though.
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** It's entirely plausible that 626 could be the 626th ''experiment'', but only the first one to advance to the stage of actually being engineered. Jumba argued his work was entirely theoretical, and that ''can'' be true for the first 625. This happens in RealLife quite frequently, particularly with experimental aircraft that never develop beyond the design phase, or at most static models.
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*** As for what he saved the planet ''from,'' the implication seems to be that the Area 51 incident (which Cobra was directly involved in) might have been another Stitch-like situation.
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** This is answered early in the film. When Stitch is discovered to have landed on Hawaii, the Grand Councilwoman says "[[ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure We will have to gas the planet]]" then suggests bombing the island until Pleakley tells her otherwise, informing her that Earth is a protected wildlife preserve for endangered mosquitoes and their food of choice. It's not that they're a particularly violent alien federation... but these extreme policies ''do'' exist and presumably must have been necessary in the past.
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*** As for what he saved the planet ''from,'' the implication seems to be that the Area 51 incident (which Cobra was directly involved in) might have been another Stitch-like situation.
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