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** Yes. The travel restrictions didn't go into effect until the 60s.
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* I just noticed that on Indy and Mutt's journey to Peru, we see them make a stop at Cuba. I'm not an expert on the state of the world in that time period, but could American's have taken a plane ride to Cuba in the 1950s?

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* I just noticed that on Indy and Mutt's journey to Peru, we see them make a stop at Cuba. I'm not an expert on the state of the world in that time period, but could American's Americans have taken a plane ride to Cuba in the 1950s?
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* I just noticed that on Indy and Mutt's journey to Peru, we see them make a stop at Cuba. I'm not an expert on the state of the world in that time period, but could American's have taken a plane ride to Cuba in the 1950s?
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** Think of it this way: the FBI is effectively ruining the career of a legitimate American hero over a very weak suspicion, while completely missing the obvious KGB agents rampaging through the United States. It can be seen as an indictment of the paranoia of McCarthyism (which did ruin innocent peoples lives) blinding the authorities to a legitimate threat: they've become so focused on looking for traitors in the ranks, they're completely missing the actual DirtyCommies!
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** Two words: MnogoNukes. Three more: Perceived "bomber gap".

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** Two words: MnogoNukes.UsefulNotes/MnogoNukes. Three more: Perceived "bomber gap".
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** Every Indy film has a prologue that ultimately just exists to get the real plot in motion. The idol scene in Raiders introduces Indy and Belloq, the nightclub scene in Temple introduces Willie and Shortround and provides the reason the trio gets stranded in India, the flashback in Last Crusade gives Indy some backstory and introduces his father, and the Area 51 scene in Crystal Skull establishes that it's now the 50s and Indy is not a young man anymore, introduces Spalko, and brings the idea of aliens into the Indy universe before diving completely into it when the Skull is revealed.

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** Every Indy film has a prologue that ultimately just exists to get the real plot in motion. The idol scene in Raiders introduces Indy and Belloq, the nightclub scene in Temple introduces Willie and Shortround and provides the reason the trio gets stranded in India, the flashback in Last Crusade gives Indy some backstory and introduces his father, and the Area 51 scene in Crystal Skull establishes that it's now the 50s and Indy is not a young man anymore, introduces Spalko, and brings the idea of aliens into the Indy universe before diving completely into it when the Skull is revealed.revealed.
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*** Four people went from Private all the way to full Colonel, Creator/JimmyStewart being one of them, and receiving a field commission was definitely not unheard of, such as AudieMurphy. Plus, he's a [=PhD=], he wasn't going to be sent to enlisted basic, he was obviously put through officer's training.

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*** Four people went from Private all the way to full Colonel, Creator/JimmyStewart being one of them, and receiving a field commission was definitely not unheard of, such as AudieMurphy.Creator/AudieMurphy. Plus, he's a [=PhD=], he wasn't going to be sent to enlisted basic, he was obviously put through officer's training.
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A refrigerator, no matter how sturdy, will '''not''' withstand even a handgrenade, much less a nuclear bomb. Running after fifty+ years is no indication of survivability in an explosion. Anything can still run if it isn't abused or neglected. Lead lining is not only not a thing, it would serve no purpose in a refrigerator, especially since lead is a horrible insulator.
** But lead are commonly used for radiation shielding,which is better than other material such as wood.

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A refrigerator, no matter how sturdy, will '''not''' withstand even a handgrenade, hand grenade, much less a nuclear bomb. Running after fifty+ years is no indication of survivability in an explosion. Anything can still run if it isn't abused or neglected. Lead lining is not only not a thing, it would serve no purpose in a refrigerator, especially since lead is a horrible insulator.
** But lead are commonly used for radiation shielding,which shielding, which is better than other material such as wood.
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*** Jumping out of a plane using an inflatable raft doesn't stretch the imagination... but I'll tell you what ''does'': the fall off the mountain. Having done something like this myself, what on ''earth'' is that raft made out of? Indy, Willie, and Shorty should have fallen ''right'' through the bottom. (Simple physics, really.) That's assuming the raft didn't pop like inlatable rafts tend to do when subject to those kinds of stress.

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*** Jumping out of a plane using an inflatable raft doesn't stretch the imagination... but I'll tell you what ''does'': the fall off the mountain. Having done something like this myself, what on ''earth'' is that raft made out of? Indy, Willie, and Shorty should have fallen ''right'' through the bottom. (Simple physics, really.) That's assuming the raft didn't pop like inlatable inflatable rafts tend to do when subject to those kinds of stress.
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** As far as the "I hate snakes" line goes, perhaps he worded it like that instead of "I'm afraid of snakes" because he didn't want to seem like a wimp.
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*** As for the Grail immortality, the knight said "the Grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal, for that is the boundry, and the price, of immortality." That suggests that the immortality only works within the temple with its effects ceasing upon crossing the Great Seal, which was the entrance. It was the whole reason why the Grail Knight couldn't leave. When Elsa crossed the Seal with the Grail, the whole place fell apart. Indy and Henry had to cross the Seal in order to escape, so they lost their immortality, hence why Henry later died of old age.
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*** Except which is more likely: that Indiana Jones can survive being flung a considerable distance inside a refrigerator ''without'' the need for an "extra life", or that Indiana Jones could have made it through ''all of World War II'' without using up a bonus life he'd acquired shortly before his military service?
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*** The "extra life" explanation seems to work best. Honestly I was bothered far more by Henry Sr. dying of old age when the Grail seemingly should've extended his lifespan than by the whole fridge thing.


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* Regarding the whole Area 51 attack, am I the only one who finds the Russians' ability to get in so easily to be much more bothersome than the various scientifically inaccurate scenes in the movie? Seriously, at ''no'' military facility, let alone a top secret one, would the ''entire'' guard post step out to confront an approaching convoy. There should've been at least one guard still inside the post to sound the alarm when the Russians opened fire.


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*** Is a gun that much harder to use? Not specifically. Quite the opposite, guns are much easier to ''learn'' to use effectively than swords. But the skills are also completely unrelated. Mutt is a trained fencer, so if he's never used a gun before it makes perfect sense that he'd be more comfortable wielding a sword.
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*** Four people went from Private all the way to full Colonel, Creator/JimmyStewart being one of them, and receiving a field commission was definitely not unheard of, such as AudieMurphy. Plus, he's a PhD, he wasn't going to be sent to enlisted basic, he was obviously put through officer's training.

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*** Four people went from Private all the way to full Colonel, Creator/JimmyStewart being one of them, and receiving a field commission was definitely not unheard of, such as AudieMurphy. Plus, he's a PhD, [=PhD=], he wasn't going to be sent to enlisted basic, he was obviously put through officer's training.
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*** One of the Russians has a length of rope on him when they and Spalko are at the waterfall. Presumably they used that to get down.
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***** Phone call for you: It's BarefootGen. The author was actually ''very'' close to Ground Zero and he was saved ''by a brick wall''.

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***** Phone call for you: It's BarefootGen.''Manga/BarefootGen''. The author was actually ''very'' close to Ground Zero and he was saved ''by a brick wall''.
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**** Or it could be one drink from the Grail gives you one extra "life." Jones Sr. used his to survive the shot from Donovan, Indy used his here. Presumably he'll just live a normal life from now on. Or as normal a life as Indiana Jones can get.
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* It is nearly impossible that he wouldn't have gotten broken bones from the landing, and horrible burns from watching the mushroom cloud, but the movie does take place over a fairly short period of time. He may have ended up with cancer, who knows.
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** But lead are commonly used for radiation shielding,which is better than other material such as wood.

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** It's a sentient object that hails from outside regular time and space. It presumably weighs as much as it currently wants to.



** The Russians bring that corpse with them to South America. We see it briefly at the beginning of Indy's interrogation scene, when Spalko shows Indy that it has a crystal skeleton similar to that of the Akator aliens. She implies that the Roswell crash, and the several similar crashes in the USSR were alien races who were *also* trying to locate the Akator aliens.

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** The Russians bring that corpse with them to South America. We see it briefly at the beginning of Indy's interrogation scene, when Spalko shows Indy that it has a crystal skeleton similar to that of the Akator aliens. She implies that the Roswell crash, and the several similar crashes in the USSR were alien races who were *also* trying to locate the Akator aliens.aliens.
** Every Indy film has a prologue that ultimately just exists to get the real plot in motion. The idol scene in Raiders introduces Indy and Belloq, the nightclub scene in Temple introduces Willie and Shortround and provides the reason the trio gets stranded in India, the flashback in Last Crusade gives Indy some backstory and introduces his father, and the Area 51 scene in Crystal Skull establishes that it's now the 50s and Indy is not a young man anymore, introduces Spalko, and brings the idea of aliens into the Indy universe before diving completely into it when the Skull is revealed.
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*** Four people went from Private all the way to full Colonel, JimmyStewart being one of them, and receiving a field commission was definitely not unheard of, such as AudieMurphy. Plus, he's a PhD, he wasn't going to be sent to enlisted basic, he was obviously put through officer's training.

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*** Four people went from Private all the way to full Colonel, JimmyStewart Creator/JimmyStewart being one of them, and receiving a field commission was definitely not unheard of, such as AudieMurphy. Plus, he's a PhD, he wasn't going to be sent to enlisted basic, he was obviously put through officer's training.



** The Russians bring that corpse with them to South America. We see it briefly at the beginning of Indy's interrogation scene, when Spalko shows Indy that it has a crystal skeleton similar to that of the Akator aliens. She implies that the Roswell crash, and the several similar crashes in the USSR were alien races who were *also* trying to locate the Akator aliens.

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** The Russians bring that corpse with them to South America. We see it briefly at the beginning of Indy's interrogation scene, when Spalko shows Indy that it has a crystal skeleton similar to that of the Akator aliens. She implies that the Roswell crash, and the several similar crashes in the USSR were alien races who were *also* trying to locate the Akator aliens.
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** I ''think'' the tearing noise is the knife blade going through the back of Indy's ''shirt'', i.e. up under his jacket; since he couldn't see how he was holding the knife and was unfamiliar with it, he had it backwards and opened it with the blade towards his body. The little wince Harrison Ford gives supports that Indy took a minor injury at that moment, something that was annoying and painful but not something that would slow him down or be noticed alongside [[MadeOfIron all the other injuries he had already sustained]] (or was about to sustain in the rest of the story). It seems like the sound effect was made too loud because there was a concern that otherwise audiences would not realize what had just happened, and they overcompensated.
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* The film is set in the mid-'50s. Yet the M35 military trucks seen at the beginning of the film (and the thinly-disguised one we see rampaging through the jungle later) weren't built until the late '60s. It's not like there aren't thousands of the older correct trucks in the hands of collectors and movie prop motor pools. Likewise, the Jeeps are also '60s-era or later round-nosed CJ Jeeps, not the square '50s Willys Jeeps. And again, it's not like there aren't hordes of earlier Willys Jeeps available. They easily get all the civilian vehicles (beautifully) right, and then blow it with the military ones.
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** The film is set in the mid-'50s. Yet the M35 military trucks seen at the beginning of the film (and the thinly-disguised one we see rampaging through the jungle later) weren't built until the late '60s. It's not like there aren't thousands of the older correct trucks in the hands of collectors and movie prop motor pools. Likewise, the Jeeps are also '60s-era or later round-nosed CJ Jeeps, not the square '50s Willys Jeeps. And again, it's not like there aren't hordes of earlier Willys Jeeps available. They easily get all the civilian vehicles (beautifully) right, and then blow it with the military ones.

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** * The film is set in the mid-'50s. Yet the M35 military trucks seen at the beginning of the film (and the thinly-disguised one we see rampaging through the jungle later) weren't built until the late '60s. It's not like there aren't thousands of the older correct trucks in the hands of collectors and movie prop motor pools. Likewise, the Jeeps are also '60s-era or later round-nosed CJ Jeeps, not the square '50s Willys Jeeps. And again, it's not like there aren't hordes of earlier Willys Jeeps available. They easily get all the civilian vehicles (beautifully) right, and then blow it with the military ones.

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* So what was the point of breaking into area 51? The alien corpse here sort of never again figures into the movie at all. The skull they use is the one Oxley / Oriana found.

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* So what was the point of breaking into area 51? The alien corpse here sort of never again figures into the movie at all. The skull they use is the one Oxley / Oriana found.Orellana found.
** The Russians bring that corpse with them to South America. We see it briefly at the beginning of Indy's interrogation scene, when Spalko shows Indy that it has a crystal skeleton similar to that of the Akator aliens. She implies that the Roswell crash, and the several similar crashes in the USSR were alien races who were *also* trying to locate the Akator aliens.

** The film is set in the mid-'50s. Yet the M35 military trucks seen at the beginning of the film (and the thinly-disguised one we see rampaging through the jungle later) weren't built until the late '60s. It's not like there aren't thousands of the older correct trucks in the hands of collectors and movie prop motor pools. Likewise, the Jeeps are also '60s-era or later round-nosed CJ Jeeps, not the square '50s Willys Jeeps. And again, it's not like there aren't hordes of earlier Willys Jeeps available. They easily get all the civilian vehicles (beautifully) right, and then blow it with the military ones.
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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade a pursuing group of angry commies. This "suddenly had a full-grown son in-between movies" thing seems to be getting very overused.

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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade a pursuing group of angry commies. This "suddenly had a full-grown son in-between movies" thing seems to be getting very overused.overused.
* So what was the point of breaking into area 51? The alien corpse here sort of never again figures into the movie at all. The skull they use is the one Oxley / Oriana found.
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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch of angry commies. This "suddenly had a full-grown son in-between movies" thing seems to be getting very overused.

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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch pursuing group of angry commies. This "suddenly had a full-grown son in-between movies" thing seems to be getting very overused.
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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch of angry commies. This "suddenly had a full-grown son in-between movies" thing seems to be getting very overused. x

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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch of angry commies. This "suddenly had a full-grown son in-between movies" thing seems to be getting very overused. x
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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch of angry commies.

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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch of angry commies. This "suddenly had a full-grown son in-between movies" thing seems to be getting very overused. x
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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together ({{Indiana Jones: Temple of Doom}}), and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch of angry commies.

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* Instead of his long-lost son, Mutt, wouldn't have made more sense if Indiana Jones was accompanied by an older Shortround? They spent alot more time together ({{Indiana Jones: Temple of Doom}}), together, and had a fairly close emotional connection (Indiana saving him from the cultists, him saving Indiana from Mola Ram's brainwashing). Even before meeting Indiana, Shortround had come from a childhood surviving the Japanese bombing of Shanghai and living as a under-aged taxi driver. Mutt, on the other hand, had never been shown engaging in a high stress situation before, yet he manages to swing through a jungle with a bunch of monkeys and evade cannibals a bunch of angry commies.

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