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** I'm more in favour of the theory that there isn't any sexual abuse, in one of the tips (I think) Teppei's internat monologue mentions that Satoko might turn out a beutiful woman in the future, with the implication that he intends to have sex with her then.
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*** I think her telling Keiichi that her home is off-limits is more due to the situation with Rina and her dad, than anything else. If her parents were still married, I'm sure she'd love to have him over.
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** I'd say it's just her charachter, same reason she keeps saying Ohohoho.
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*** It was 26 children. And the police resolving the situation would compromise the plot of the entire series, as the whole point of Tsumihoroboshi-hen is that Keiichi brings Rena back.
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** Mion got the tatoo at the same time they were separated, speaking up after that point could have ment a lot of trouble. Also, none of them were really keen on being the head of the Sonozaki family.
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*** [[spoiler:She's not so much after proving him right, as to make the men in the fancy suits take Hifumi's work seriously, she's devastated by the way they literally trampled his work, both when she was a child, and when she tried to appeal the cancellation of the research.]]
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*** [[spoiler:I've had a hard time with this too, but I'm pretty sure that he DID kill Teppei, AND that Teppei is still alive afterwards. The whole sequence can't have been a hallucination, as it includes details that would be very strange for him to dream up, most prominently meeting Takano, who refuses to put his bike in the trunk, because she has Tomitake in there. In the visual novel, he is explicitly stated to be alive, he complains that everything smells of something, this is why he has Satoko in the bath, where Keiichi find her, though it is possible that this is a hallucination of Satoko's.]]
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*** The visual novels, all put together, are HUGE, it's taken me almost two moths to get through them, it would probably take 80~120 episodes to do a good work of animating them, and they probably weren't sure they'd get to make another season, so they wanted to fit in at least Meakashi-hen.
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*** [[spoiler:He isn't comatose from Hinamizawa Syndrome, he is sedated, because they've yet to bring him back from L5, and he would randomly attack most everyone he sees.]]
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* our words: [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Frederica Bernkastel]] and [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Bernkastel]]. What the hell is up with that? Is Ryukishi07 {{MindScrew}}ing the fanbase on purpose?
** I noticed the difference as well. Hopefully this question will be answered when VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi finishes.
** From what I have seen (All of [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Higurashi]] and just the first arc of [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Umineko]]), I would guess that she was the one orchestrating the set of circumstances leading to Rika's death in every time loop (Beatrice explicitly states that one of Bernkastel's powers is causing "miracles" which are possible, but infinitely improbable). In the end, the gang didn't win because of ThePowerOfFriendship; they won because Bernkastel got bored and let them win.
** I noticed the difference as well. Hopefully this question will be answered when VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi finishes.
** From what I have seen (All of [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Higurashi]] and just the first arc of [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Umineko]]), I would guess that she was the one orchestrating the set of circumstances leading to Rika's death in every time loop (Beatrice explicitly states that one of Bernkastel's powers is causing "miracles" which are possible, but infinitely improbable). In the end, the gang didn't win because of ThePowerOfFriendship; they won because Bernkastel got bored and let them win.
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* our words: [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Frederica Bernkastel]] and [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Bernkastel]]. What the hell is up with that? Is Ryukishi07 {{MindScrew}}ing the fanbase on purpose?
** I noticed the difference as well. Hopefully this question will be answered whenVisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry finishes.
** From what I have seen (All of [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Higurashi]] and just the first arc of[[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Umineko]]), I would guess that she was the one orchestrating the set of circumstances leading to Rika's death in every time loop (Beatrice explicitly states that one of Bernkastel's powers is causing "miracles" which are possible, but infinitely improbable). In the end, the gang didn't win because of ThePowerOfFriendship; they won because Bernkastel got bored and let them win.
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** From what I have seen (All of [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Higurashi]] and just the first arc of
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** "When They Cry" is the name of the franchise currently containing this and VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi, VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry, actually.
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* Rika trying to give [[spoiler:Shion and Rena the syndrome medication]] single-handedly. Why didn't she ask Irie and Takano for help?
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* Rika trying to give [[spoiler:Shion and Rena the syndrome medication]] single-handedly. Why didn't she ask Irie and Takano for help?help?
* I'm currently in the middle of Kai (season 2), and every time we're reminded that Mion is a Sonozaki and that she is the future head of the family, I can't help but remember how she turned completely cruel and emotionless when she had Shion's nails ripped out. Is this something that only happened because of Shion's illness and paranoia? To punish Shion in such a cruel way for doing nothing wrong made me hate Mion, and I've basically despised her ever since, but Mion doesn't seem like the same twisted person that she was in the second story arc. In short, is Mion evil like most of the Sonozaki family, or was the nail-removal incident basically just a delusion that Shion's illness created?
* I'm currently in the middle of Kai (season 2), and every time we're reminded that Mion is a Sonozaki and that she is the future head of the family, I can't help but remember how she turned completely cruel and emotionless when she had Shion's nails ripped out. Is this something that only happened because of Shion's illness and paranoia? To punish Shion in such a cruel way for doing nothing wrong made me hate Mion, and I've basically despised her ever since, but Mion doesn't seem like the same twisted person that she was in the second story arc. In short, is Mion evil like most of the Sonozaki family, or was the nail-removal incident basically just a delusion that Shion's illness created?
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** In the Visual Novel, he didn't want his parents to get hurt, fearing that they will be the next to disappear from the curse.
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***** [[spoiler: The most common interpretation is that Fredrica Frederica Bernkastel is something like a higher level being created as a result of Rika's multiple dimension hopping adventures, sort of like an imprint she left behind that became a separate entity. She's a witch and is probably the same Bernkastel as the one from Umineko. Bernkastel says that she and Rika are not the same person, which is technically true, but at the very least Rika is Bernkastel's origin. The fact that she looks like an adult version of Rika and has the same voice makes that much impossible to deny.]]
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***** [[spoiler: The most common interpretation is that Fredrica Bernkastel is something like a higher level being created as a result of Rika's multiple dimension hopping adventures, sort of like an imprint she left behind that became a separate entity. She's a witch and is probably the same Bernkastel as the one from Umineko. Bernkastel says that she and Rika are not the same person, which is technically true, but at the very least Rika is Bernkastel's origin. The fact that she looks like an adult version of Rika and has the same voice makes that much impossible to deny.]]
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*** This especially mind boggling given that the ''literal'' translation of the title ("When The Cicadas Cry") sounds far more natural than what they chose. I guess Western audiences are just [[ViewersAreMorons too stupid]] to be able to tell that "When The Cicadas Cry" and "When The Seagulls Cry" might just be part of the same franchise...
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*** This especially mind boggling given that the ''literal'' translation of the title ("When The Cicadas Cry") sounds far more natural than what they chose. I guess Western audiences are just [[ViewersAreMorons too stupid]] stupid to be able to tell that "When The Cicadas Cry" and "When The Seagulls Cry" might just be part of the same franchise...
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* Okay, so I'm well-aware of the trope in most school anime & manga series where [[InvisibleParents parents either never show up or do nothing relevant to the plot.]] However, I still find it ludicrous that K1 never tells his parents anything or tries to get them to do something, even though he logically should in a lot of cases. In the first story, Onikakushi, for example, [[spoiler: he never tells his parents about the extreme pain and terror he's going through by the end, even though he realistically should at least tell them a ''little'', ignoring the whole "curse" thing.]] I get he's not really close to his parents (particularly his dad, who he seems to dislike,) but it still shatters my WillingSuspensionOfBelief.WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief.
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* Okay, so I'm well-aware of the trope in most school anime & manga series where [[InvisibleParents parents either never show up or do nothing relevant to the plot.]] However, I still find it ludicrous that K1 never tells his parents anything or tries to get them to do something, even though he logically should in a lot of cases. In the first story, Onikakushi, for example, [[spoiler: he never tells his parents about the extreme pain and terror he's going through by the end, even though he realistically should at least tell them a ''little'', ignoring the whole "curse" thing.]] I get he's not really close to his parents (particularly his dad, who he seems to dislike,) but it still shatters my WillingSuspensionOfBelief.
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** From what I have seen (All of [[HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi Higurashi]] and just the first arc of [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Umineko]]), I would guess that she was the one orchestrating the set of circumstances leading to Rika's death in every time loop (Beatrice explicitly states that one of Bernkastel's powers is causing "miracles" which are possible, but infinitely improbable). In the end, the gang didn't win because of ThePowerOfFriendship; they won because Bernkastel got bored and let them win.
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** From what I have seen (All of [[HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Higurashi]] and just the first arc of [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Umineko]]), I would guess that she was the one orchestrating the set of circumstances leading to Rika's death in every time loop (Beatrice explicitly states that one of Bernkastel's powers is causing "miracles" which are possible, but infinitely improbable). In the end, the gang didn't win because of ThePowerOfFriendship; they won because Bernkastel got bored and let them win.
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* So Miyo's parents died and she was sent to an orphanage, but who was running it and why were the men being so inhumanely cruel to the kids living there (in the entry to the page OrphanageOfFear, it seemed to allude to all the men being ex-military)? Besides, in the anime, during the scene where Dr. Takano picked her up in his car, it almost seemed like he knew what was going on in the orphanage, but neither he nor Miyo ever mentioned the orphanage again. Maybe they didn't have evidence, but the fact that they didn't even talk about it suggested that they hadn't even thought about helping the remaining kids, or there was someone or something with a lot of power controlling the orphanage and preventing Takano from taking action.
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** [[spoiler: The cicadas and plants all around the village are dead because they ''should'' be if it were a volcanic gas disaster which is the cover story for Manual 34. When the soldiers gas the civilians, they also spray insecticide and herbicide so it looks like a natural disaster. It's all part of the plan to keep people from learning the truth of what happened there.]]
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*** Rina hasn't done anything for the Sonozaki family to care about in that arc, though. Dialogue in the various arcs indicate that she only gets in trouble with them if the badger game falls through. There's also the fact that, even though Rena has no way of knowing, the badger game falling through is the direct cause of Teppei returning and terrorizing Satoko. It's entirely possible that Rena ''has'' had the Sonozaki family take care of Rina in the past, it just doesn't lead anywhere good.
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** Drugs/poisons that kill their victim in a way that it looks like a heart attack are readily availible in 1983, thus is allowed under Knox's 4th.
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* Assuming the ''Kaku'' OVA is an UltimateUniverse (see [[WMG/HigurashiWhenTheyCry WMG]]), it probably doesn't have a time loop -- this version of Hanyuu would have no reason to create one even if she could. But Rika still has an adult voice and personality. Where did they come from?
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* Assuming the ''Kaku'' OVA is an UltimateUniverse (see [[WMG/HigurashiWhenTheyCry WMG]]), it probably doesn't have a time loop -- this version of Hanyuu would have no reason to create one even if she could. But Rika still has an adult voice and personality. Where did they come from?
* Does Shion exist in ''Kaku''?
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*** If you haven't played the games, Don't call AdaptationDecay Yet! The rules of TheEighties! [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Do not complain about shows you may not understand]]! 30 Tactical Units vs. 7 kids and the mafia, the police and a federal agent Who wins?
