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** Because they didn't actually witness her swapping the firework rockets for the spore-laden substitutes. Not only is it well after dark, but the racks to hold the rockets were at least several meters directly behind the musicians. The noise of the music would have covered Tigress' movements, and even if one musician were to turn around, they were all staring at the lighted shadow-puppet screen which would have ruined their night vision. Also, they were in the middle of a performance; one suddenly being [[JustForPun silenced]] would have alerted everyone watching the performance that something was wrong.

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** Because they didn't actually witness her swapping the firework rockets for the spore-laden substitutes. Not only is it well after dark, but the racks to hold the rockets were at least several meters directly behind the musicians. The noise of the music would have covered Tigress' movements, and even if one musician were to turn around, they were all staring at the lighted shadow-puppet screen which would have ruined their night vision. Also, they were in the middle of a performance; one suddenly being [[JustForPun silenced]] "silenced" would have alerted everyone watching the performance that something was wrong.

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* Will the show ever explain why Carmen didn't go directly to Interpol or the authorities? Yes, it may have put Interpol in even more danger with V.I.L.E. than they were before, but Carmen is essentially operating on her own and attracting trouble from both the law and her former family. It would make more sense if she pooled her resources and knowledge with people that want the same goal: to take down criminals. Besides which, her actions [[spoiler:indirectly led to a former Interpol agent -- Chase-- getting captured and tortured]].

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* Will the show ever explain why Carmen didn't go directly to Interpol or the authorities? Yes, it may have put Interpol in even more danger with V.I.L.E. than they were before, but Carmen is essentially operating on her own and attracting trouble from both the law and her former family. It would make more sense if she pooled her resources and knowledge with people that want the same goal: to take down criminals. Besides which, her actions [[spoiler:indirectly indirectly led to a former Interpol agent -- Chase-- getting captured and tortured]].tortured.



* V.I.L.E. is very inconsistent with their rule of [[spoiler:killing off witnesses.]] In The Sticky Rice Caper, Tigress [[spoiler: leaves a bunch of Indonesian puppeteers and folk musicians alive]]. So why didn’t she [[spoiler:kill]] them?

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* V.I.L.E. is very inconsistent with their rule of [[spoiler:killing killing off witnesses.]] witnesses. In The Sticky Rice Caper, Tigress [[spoiler: leaves a bunch of Indonesian puppeteers and folk musicians alive]]. alive. So why didn’t she [[spoiler:kill]] kill them?



** This isn't very well explained, but in the penultimate episode of Season 2, [[spoiler: Cookie Booker says that due to Carmen and co. targeting the lynchpin operations that V.I.L.E. otherwise would make plenty of profits from, they invariably would fail to make a great deal more off the books funding for future successful operations without other means to succeed on this axis. For example, Carmen using her temporary operant/ conditional credentials with CHIEF to shut down a blood diamond mine. Fortunately for the operatives involved and Coach Brunt, Roundabout warns them of such a possibility and they can evacuate with ease via an emergency evacuation protocol. This yields critical information for V.I.L.E. at great cost, however.]]

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** This isn't very well explained, but in the penultimate episode of Season 2, [[spoiler: Cookie Booker says that due to Carmen and co. targeting the lynchpin operations that V.I.L.E. otherwise would make plenty of profits from, they invariably would fail to make a great deal more off the books funding for future successful operations without other means to succeed on this axis. For example, Carmen using her temporary operant/ conditional credentials with CHIEF to shut down a blood diamond mine. Fortunately for the operatives involved and Coach Brunt, Roundabout warns them of such a possibility and they can evacuate with ease via an emergency evacuation protocol. This yields critical information for V.I.L.E. at great cost, however.]]



** One episode after [[spoiler: Shadow-san]] joins Carmen reveals he's on a separate mission from the rest of the team, handling another caper. V.I.L.E. does have multiple ops going on at once, so it seems Carmen's just usually targeting the biggest ones.

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** One episode after [[spoiler: Shadow-san]] Shadowsan joins Carmen reveals he's on a separate mission from the rest of the team, handling another caper. V.I.L.E. does have multiple ops going on at once, so it seems Carmen's just usually targeting the biggest ones.



* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that the council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want her to return to the island given that he didn't want Carmen back [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he have planned for her or know V.I.L.E would do if Carmen actually returned? Wouldn't he have preferred Carmen to ''not'' come back?

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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that the council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want her to return to the island given that he didn't want Carmen back [[spoiler:to to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]].E. What exactly would he have planned for her or know V.I.L.E would do if Carmen actually returned? Wouldn't he have preferred Carmen to ''not'' come back?
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** It may have been another necessary ruse. We see in the situation with Paper Star that Shadow-san can be pressured into giving his vote for the council’s decisions if the rest of the council agree, so that may be what happened here. Or he may have given his vote without convincing with confidence that Carmen would never agree to such an offer. Alternatively, it may be Shadow-san was hedging his bets and trying to keep her safe if the worst should happen: in the event that Carmen is captured (whether by VILE themselves or by the law) it’s safer for VILE to be willing to keep her alive under the pretense of possibly getting her to work with them rather than simply kill her or torture her.
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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want her to return to the island given that he didn't want Carmen back [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he have planned or know V.I.L.E would do if Carmen actually returned? Wouldn't he have preferred Carmen to ''not'' come back?

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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that the council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want her to return to the island given that he didn't want Carmen back [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he have planned for her or know V.I.L.E would do if Carmen actually returned? Wouldn't he have preferred Carmen to ''not'' come back?

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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want Carmen to return back to the island given that he didn't want her [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he know V.I.L.E would do or have planned if Carmen actually returned? Wouldn't he have preferred Carmen to ''not'' come back?

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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want Carmen her to return back to the island given that he didn't want her Carmen back [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he have planned or know V.I.L.E would do or have planned if Carmen actually returned? Wouldn't he have preferred Carmen to ''not'' come back?
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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want Carmen to return back to the island given that he didn't want her [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he know V.I.L.E would do or have planned if Carmen actually returned?

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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want Carmen to return back to the island given that he didn't want her [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he know V.I.L.E would do or have planned if Carmen actually returned? Wouldn't he have preferred Carmen to ''not'' come back?
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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want Carmen to return back to the island given that he didn't want Carmen [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he know or have planned if Carmen actually returned?

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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want Carmen to return back to the island given that he didn't want Carmen her [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he know V.I.L.E would do or have planned if Carmen actually returned?returned?
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* According to Crackle after Carmen defected from V.I.L.E, he says that that council wants Carmen back with a truce and states that "even Shadowsan is on board". But knowing who Shadowsan is, why would he want Carmen to return back to the island given that he didn't want Carmen [[spoiler:to be a professional thief and steal for V.I.L.E]]. What exactly would he know or have planned if Carmen actually returned?
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** That would have been completely unnecessary since Tigress would be drawing more witnesses and more before soon having to deal with the authorities which is '''not''' VILE's style. Besides, Tigress' uniform was perfect to blend within the festival which is something VILE would do, hiding within plain sight. Furthermore, the musicians must've thought Carmen and Tigress were apart of the puppet show and decided to follow along when the two "actors" got on stage.

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** That would have been completely unnecessary since Tigress would be drawing more witnesses and more before soon having to deal with the authorities which is '''not''' VILE's style. Besides, Tigress' uniform was perfect to blend within the festival which is something VILE would do, hiding within plain sight. sight so no one would've suspected her of tampering with the fireworks as everyone was focussed on the puppet show. Furthermore, the musicians must've thought Carmen and Tigress were apart of the puppet show who just didn't get along and decided to follow along when the two "actors" got on stage.
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** That would have been completely unnecessary since Tigress would be drawing more witnesses and more before soon having to deal with the authorities which is '''not''' VILE's style. Besides, Tigress' uniform was perfect to blend within the festival which is something VILE would do and the musicians must've thought Carmen and Tigress were apart of puppet show and decided to follow along.

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** That would have been completely unnecessary since Tigress would be drawing more witnesses and more before soon having to deal with the authorities which is '''not''' VILE's style. Besides, Tigress' uniform was perfect to blend within the festival which is something VILE would do and do, hiding within plain sight. Furthermore, the musicians must've thought Carmen and Tigress were apart of the puppet show and decided to follow along.along when the two "actors" got on stage.
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** That would have been completely unnecessary since Tigress would be drawing more witnesses and more before soon having to deal with the authorities. Besides, the musicians must've thought Carmen and Tigress were apart of festival and the puppet show and decided to follow along.

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** That would have been completely unnecessary since Tigress would be drawing more witnesses and more before soon having to deal with the authorities. authorities which is '''not''' VILE's style. Besides, Tigress' uniform was perfect to blend within the festival which is something VILE would do and the musicians must've thought Carmen and Tigress were apart of festival and the puppet show and decided to follow along.
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** That would have been completely unnecessary since Tigress would be drawing more witnesses and more before soon having to deal with the authorities. Besides, the musicians must've thought Carmen and Tigress were apart of festival and the puppet show and decided to follow along.
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* In Season 4 Episode 3, Shadowsan fights against a robotic arm of Robo Robber that can easily fight and locate Shadowsan and was also able to climb up stairs which was being controlled by Dr. Bellum who at the time was unaware and struggled with the robot's controls. How on Earth was this possible for that arm to move and function well? Does that thing have lenses with Dr. Bellum noticing Shadowsan and decided to use the opportunity to fight him? Was it a case of button mashing when Dr. Bellum tried to move Robo Robber? Or did Dr. Bellum accidentally made a revolutionary discovery of A.I robotic body parts moving autonomously?

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* In Season 4 Episode 3, Shadowsan fights against a robotic arm of Robo Robber that can easily fight and locate pinpoint Shadowsan and was also able to climb up the stairs which was being controlled by Dr. Bellum who at the time was unaware and struggled with the robot's controls. How on Earth was this it possible for that arm to move and function well? well as if it was a creature? Wouldn't the arm have been wiggling instead? Does that thing have lenses with Dr. Bellum noticing Shadowsan and decided to use the opportunity to fight him? Was it a case of [[ButtonMashing button mashing mashing]] when Dr. Bellum tried to move Robo Robber? Or did Dr. Bellum accidentally made a revolutionary discovery of A.I robotic body parts moving autonomously?
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** It's likely he's on another mission given he's shown absent in episodes such as Season 2 and 3 and he's also very skilled on his own

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** It's likely certain he's on another mission and this takes place somewhere between the events of season 2 given he's shown absent in episodes such as in Season 2 and 3 and he's 3. He's also very skilled on his ownown so he could very easily do a caper without Carmen and her friends.
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** Perhaps the procedure for becoming a VILE operative involves erasing some degree of biometrics, like fingerprints. Though the validity to such erasure's implementation to have them on file and re-inserting them iff the agent has failed (revealed to police, and cleaners on the run). The HOW is another matter altogether. Studies have shown that, even if intentionally removed, some biometric markers return if fingerprints were burnt off chemically/ physically with time...time...
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* Shadow-san is addressed as such by everyone in V.I.L.E., but shouldn't the recruits be calling him "Shadow-sensei" instead? Sensei means 'teacher' in Japanese and he's something of a teacher.
** "Shadow-san" is his whole codename. No one addressing him is choosing to use the honorific with him just because he's Japanese, but rather because "-san" is part of the name he chose to be addressed by.
* The whole point of Shadow-san holding Carmen back was because he felt she could do something more with her life. However thanks to V.I.L.E.'s "no contact to the outside world" rule, the only thing she ever grew up knowing was looking forward to being a thief. Her cultural education may have alluded to a world at large but she never got to see it for herself so what exactly was Shadow-san trying to protect her from when she was inevitably going to ask to join V.I.L.E. academy (that being the only occupation she was ever exposed to)? The fact she ends up as a good egg with a conscience wasn't through any effort he made.

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* Shadow-san Shadowsan is addressed as such by everyone in V.I.L.E., but shouldn't the recruits be calling him "Shadow-sensei" instead? Sensei means 'teacher' in Japanese and he's something of a teacher.
** "Shadow-san" is his whole codename. No one addressing him is choosing to use the honorific with him just because he's Japanese, but rather because "-san" "san" is part of the name he chose to be addressed by.
* The whole point of Shadow-san Shadowsan holding Carmen back was because he felt she could do something more with her life. However thanks to V.I.L.E.'s "no contact to the outside world" rule, the only thing she ever grew up knowing was looking forward to being a thief. Her cultural education may have alluded to a world at large but she never got to see it for herself so what exactly was Shadow-san trying to protect her from when she was inevitably going to ask to join V.I.L.E. academy (that being the only occupation she was ever exposed to)? The fact she ends up as a good egg with a conscience wasn't through any effort he made.


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** It's likely he's on another mission given he's shown absent in episodes such as Season 2 and 3 and he's also very skilled on his own
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** I've thought on this one, and they(VILE) intentionally did exactly what was described above, on top of placing a pulse in the underground structure (a controlled RF pulse, Dr. Denim's love of Bizet), in order to control her and make the SpaceX-esque company look incompetent for their folly(as suggested in the show). There must've been structures for safety protocols built internally, but it was down for maintenance. The problem is that we, the viewers, only see the events [[InMediasRes in medias res]], whereas [[RealityEnsues reality ensues,]] and that VILE beat Carmen and co. to the punchline ([[WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys by having better equipment]], [[AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil a supported shadow infrastructure]], and all the lovely toys from [[MadScientist Dr.Bellum]]). Most likely, [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable Le Chevre and El Topo were transported on an unmarked or stolen jet]] (either from the previous job that may or may not be in relative proximity to the Outback by comparison, and let said operatives take all but Denim and tamper with the launch sequence code to force launch only) [[GodzillaThreshold that could get them to the launch site in The Outback at a faster speed in order to fuel and launch as quickly as possible.]]

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** I've thought on this one, and they(VILE) intentionally did exactly what was described above, on top of placing a pulse in the underground structure (a controlled RF pulse, Dr. Denim's love of Bizet), in order to control her and make the SpaceX-esque company look incompetent for their folly(as suggested in the show). There must've been structures for safety protocols built internally, but it was down for maintenance. The problem is that we, the viewers, only see the events [[InMediasRes in medias res]], whereas [[RealityEnsues [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome reality ensues,]] and that VILE beat Carmen and co. to the punchline ([[WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys by having better equipment]], [[AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil a supported shadow infrastructure]], and all the lovely toys from [[MadScientist Dr.Bellum]]). Most likely, [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable Le Chevre and El Topo were transported on an unmarked or stolen jet]] (either from the previous job that may or may not be in relative proximity to the Outback by comparison, and let said operatives take all but Denim and tamper with the launch sequence code to force launch only) [[GodzillaThreshold that could get them to the launch site in The Outback at a faster speed in order to fuel and launch as quickly as possible.]]

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