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**** We don't know how old the Jackdaw was when Edward grabbed it from the Spanish and there's about a 13 year gap between when it's last seen at the end of of Black Flag and it's reappearance as a sunken wreck in Freedom Cry. It might have been getting old, been poorly maintained in that time or just ran into a string of bad luck. It's also possible it that when it was sank it was under the command of someone less skilled then edward, which led to it's sinking.
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* So I may be missing something obvious but from Black Flag up through Syndicate there's a big plot point about the Templars looking for Sage DNA for the Phoenix Project(ISU cloning), except it kinda seems to forget they already have John's body who was a sage. So why are they still looking in the past for Sage remains when they have a fresh Sage Corpse already in their possession?
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** Caroline may not have known/been certain she was pregnant at the time Edward left. As for Jenny, she doesn't have to be rational about it. And even so, Edward never bothered to come home in all those years, and was a legitimately awful person shortly before his big [[HeelFaceTurn]], when he finally started to improve. Their bonding may not have been without ups and downs.

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** Caroline may not have known/been certain she was pregnant at the time Edward left. As for Jenny, she doesn't have to be rational about it. And even so, Edward never bothered to come home in all those years, and was a legitimately awful person shortly before his big [[HeelFaceTurn]], HeelFaceTurn, when he finally started to improve. Their bonding may not have been without ups and downs.
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** Caroline may not have known/been certain she was pregnant at the time Edward left. As for Jenny, she doesn't have to be rational about it. And even so, Edward never bothered to come home in all those years, and was a legitimately awful person shortly before his big [[HeelFaceTurn]], when he finally started to improve. Their bonding may not have been without ups and downs.
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** Exactly. In-game, you can activate Eagle Vision immediately - you don't need to wait for Edward to steal Duncan's robes. It'll be something he's been able to access for years - probably just thought he was especially perceptive, rather than tapping into humanity's supernatural ancestry. Ezio was the same - his father mentions using his 'gift' to find the secret room in their house.
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* Why did Caroline hide the fact she was pregnant from Edward? She wanted him to stop risking his life chasing a "fool's errand" and stay with her, so revealing to him that she was pregnant with his child had a big chance of convincing him to stay by her side. And while we're at it, why did Jenny hold the fact that his father didn't raise her during her first 7 years against him to the point she refused to use his surname and resented her half-brother? It was her mother who hid Jenny's existence from Edward, so he had no way of knowing that he had a daughter.

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* Why did Caroline hide the fact she was pregnant from Edward? She wanted him to stop risking his life chasing a "fool's errand" and stay with her, so revealing to him that she was pregnant with his child had a big chance of convincing him to stay by her side. And while we're at it, why did Jenny hold the fact that his father didn't raise her during her first 7 years against him to the point she became estranged from him, refused to use his surname and resented her half-brother? It was her mother who hid Jenny's existence from Edward, so he had no way of knowing that he had a daughter.
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** I believe the point was that Edward was no more selfish or immoral than you standard pirate, and many of his friends were worse than him; yet he gets chastised for his actions and goals like he's a special case all the time, even by fellow pirates like Ade and Mary Read.
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* Why did Caroline hide the fact she was pregnant from Edward? She wanted him to stop risking his life chasing a "fool's errand" and stay with her, so revealing to him that she was pregnant with his child had a big chance of convincing him to stay by her side. And while we're at it, why did Jenny hold the fact that his father didn't raise her during her first 7 years against him to the point she refused to use his surname and resented her half-brother? It was her mother who hid Jenny's existence from Edward, so he had no way of knowing that he had a daughter.
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*** It's outright stated they have Edward's genetic memories because of "Sample 17" (Desmond), who is ''Haytham's'' descendant, not Jenny's.

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** Following the above, just look at the consequences of his choices at the end of his life. He ends up bettering his station but never really himself. He refuses to train his daughter so she can live the life of a "proper woman", idolizes his son and deals with men necessary to maintain his station. The result is these men (who end up being Templars) kill him, his daughter spends her entire youth as a sex slave and later a bitter recluse while his son becomes the very antipathy of everything he believed in as an assassin.
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** Every human alive in the AC universe is capable of Eagle Vision, some are just inclined to pick it up easy (usually from being descendants from the precursor race.) Edward himself mentions that he has had the ability since he was young.
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** What about the fact that we're playing as Edward throughout the whole game even though Jenny would have been conceived sometime before the game's events? Heck, during the credits we see Edward and Jenny together, yet we're still controlling him. By all accounts, this scene must be in the Animus' data banks.
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*No, I question this too. Freerunning and use of the blades is easily explained away as Edward being a sailor and a pirate, but how in the blue blazes does he know how to activate Eagle Vision? I was always under the impression that Altair, at least, had to spend years training up his perceptions, but Edward just kills a guy and takes his pants and suddenly he can see people's auras? Come to think of it, how did Ezio do it?
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* The biggest headscratcher to fans who have played ''AssassinsCreedIII'' and/or read ''[[Literature/AssassinsCreedForsaken Assassin's Creed: Forsaken]]'' and then played this game's [[AdaptationalBadass version]] of Edward Kenway is how does TheCaptain of the Jackdaw, the scourge of Empires, the man who outlasted Benjamin Hornigold, Blackbeard, Charles Vane and Bartholomew Roberts, [[spoiler: end up dying in his house, at the age of 42, killed by random mooks]] when in the past he sacked Spanish and British Man O'Wars, defeated ''five'' immensely lethal and durable ships, and hunted several sharks and whales moreover.

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* The biggest headscratcher to fans who have played ''AssassinsCreedIII'' ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' and/or read ''[[Literature/AssassinsCreedForsaken Assassin's Creed: Forsaken]]'' and then played this game's [[AdaptationalBadass version]] of Edward Kenway is how does TheCaptain of the Jackdaw, the scourge of Empires, the man who outlasted Benjamin Hornigold, Blackbeard, Charles Vane and Bartholomew Roberts, [[spoiler: end up dying in his house, at the age of 42, killed by random mooks]] when in the past he sacked Spanish and British Man O'Wars, defeated ''five'' immensely lethal and durable ships, and hunted several sharks and whales moreover.



* Related to WhatHappenedToTheMouse, in the game you build and upgrade the Jackdaw into a CoolShip that can take out Man O Wars and Legendary Ships, so how come it seems to disappear completely by the time of ''AssassinsCreedIII'' where the Aquila is the flagship of the Assassin Fleet. Did Edward salvage the Jackdaw or did it go down in battle sometime in his retirement?

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* Related to WhatHappenedToTheMouse, in the game you build and upgrade the Jackdaw into a CoolShip that can take out Man O Wars and Legendary Ships, so how come it seems to disappear completely by the time of ''AssassinsCreedIII'' ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' where the Aquila is the flagship of the Assassin Fleet. Did Edward salvage the Jackdaw or did it go down in battle sometime in his retirement?
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* The biggest headscratcher to fans who have played ''AssassinsCreedIII'' and/or read ''[[Literature/AssassinsCreedForsaken Assassin's Creed: Forsaken]]'' and then played this game's [[AdaptationalBadass version]] of Edward Kenway is how does TheCaptain of the Jackdaw, the scourge of Empires, the man who outlasted Benjamin Hornigold, Blackbeard, Charles Vane and Bartholomew Roberts, [[spoiler: end up dying in his house, at the age of 42, killed by random mooks]] when in the past he cleared Spanish galleons, British Man O'Wars and several legendary ships, and hunted several sharks and whales moreover.

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* The biggest headscratcher to fans who have played ''AssassinsCreedIII'' and/or read ''[[Literature/AssassinsCreedForsaken Assassin's Creed: Forsaken]]'' and then played this game's [[AdaptationalBadass version]] of Edward Kenway is how does TheCaptain of the Jackdaw, the scourge of Empires, the man who outlasted Benjamin Hornigold, Blackbeard, Charles Vane and Bartholomew Roberts, [[spoiler: end up dying in his house, at the age of 42, killed by random mooks]] when in the past he cleared sacked Spanish galleons, and British Man O'Wars O'Wars, defeated ''five'' immensely lethal and several legendary durable ships, and hunted several sharks and whales moreover.
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** Apparently yes, leather sails were a thing. The stronger construction meant they could withstand worse weather.
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*** It explains the what and where but not the who, when, why or how.
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** He's an easy mark? Might feel like I'm reading too much into it but the number of people who pull the wool over his eyes in Black Flag coupled with him being shocked the Big Bad double crossed him (I will never understand how he didn't see that coming), make me think Edward isn't very hard to fool. His strengths were in fighting, sailing, and exploring. Everything else was strongly lacking.
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How the hell did Edward not realize he was working/befriending with a templar? As far as I know, Edward kept active as an assassin in London. Is there an explanation for this?

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* How the hell did Edward not realize he was working/befriending with a templar? As far as I know, Edward kept active as an assassin in London. Is there an explanation for this?
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How the hell did Edward not realize he was working/befriending with a templar? As far as I know, Edward kept active as an assassin in London. Is there an explanation for this?
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** In-game its stated that they plan to alter the content and market it differently from how it was. The player character is Research Analyst who merely collects data as to how it happened in the past. The final game trailers are StylisticSuck ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' knock-offs whereas ''Black Flag'' is a ShownTheirWork WartsAndAll look at the GoldenAgeOfPiracy.

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** In-game its stated that they plan to alter the content and market it differently from how it was. The player character is Research Analyst who merely collects data as to how it happened in the past. The final game trailers are StylisticSuck ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' knock-offs whereas ''Black Flag'' is a ShownTheirWork WartsAndAll look at the GoldenAgeOfPiracy.UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfPiracy.

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*** This. Don't forget, too, that he can find and retrieve a Mayan Stele stone on the first island he ends up on, long before James Kidd ever explains to him how.

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*** ** This. Don't forget, too, that he can find and retrieve a Mayan Stele stone on the first island he ends up on, long before James Kidd ever explains to him how. \n

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*** Well there's all the various assassin tricks that he knows. Things like the way he uses the hidden blade like he's been trained in it for double kills, running kills and the other various special kills. Things like a regular stealth kill or kill from hiding make perfect sense, just imagine using a dagger. But these skills do not come off as the sort of thing just anyone would know how to do but Edward just does. Just because. As for Haytham this makes more sense than you're giving it credit for - there's no reason the two groups shouldn't fight in almost the exact same way - they're basically two sides of the coin. They want the same things essentially, they just want it to happen in entirely different ways.
**** Haytham was being trained in swordsmanship by his father Edward in the explicit hopes of raising him as an Assassin and he also inspired him to awaken his "eagle sense". Of course he died at the age of 10 but undoubtedly part of that training led Haytham in the same direction.
*** The best answer is perhaps blood, first-civilization genes which Edward and many Assassins possess. In the second game, the Video "The truth" with Adam and Eve showed them having Parkour and freerunning skills implying that this is the source for the Assassin's gifts. There's also the fact that Edward is a very quick learner, capable of assimilating information fast and good improviser. All it took was Woodes Rogers and Julien du Casse telling him the different assassination techniques and we play him go through that in an obstacle course. He also has skills as a sailor of climbing up masts and topsails, "every finger a fishhook".
*** ''"Things like the way he uses the hidden blade like he's been trained in it for double kills, running kills and the other various special kills."'' Really? I don't see what's so terribly complex about "stab two people at once" and "stab someone while running" that Edward couldn't figure out. Air kills in particular are something Edward would probably be quite skilled with already, being a sailor with a great talent for climbing. No doubt he's killed many men that way while boarding enemy ships, only now he's using an Assassin's hidden blade instead of his usual twin swords.

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*** ** Well there's all the various assassin tricks that he knows. Things like the way he uses the hidden blade like he's been trained in it for double kills, running kills and the other various special kills. Things like a regular stealth kill or kill from hiding make perfect sense, just imagine using a dagger. But these skills do not come off as the sort of thing just anyone would know how to do but Edward just does. Just because. As for Haytham this makes more sense than you're giving it credit for - there's no reason the two groups shouldn't fight in almost the exact same way - they're basically two sides of the coin. They want the same things essentially, they just want it to happen in entirely different ways.
**** ** Haytham was being trained in swordsmanship by his father Edward in the explicit hopes of raising him as an Assassin and he also inspired him to awaken his "eagle sense". Of course he died at the age of 10 but undoubtedly part of that training led Haytham in the same direction.
*** ** The best answer is perhaps blood, first-civilization genes which Edward and many Assassins possess. In the second game, the Video "The truth" with Adam and Eve showed them having Parkour and freerunning skills implying that this is the source for the Assassin's gifts. There's also the fact that Edward is a very quick learner, capable of assimilating information fast and good improviser. All it took was Woodes Rogers and Julien du Casse telling him the different assassination techniques and we play him go through that in an obstacle course. He also has skills as a sailor of climbing up masts and topsails, "every finger a fishhook".
*** ** ''"Things like the way he uses the hidden blade like he's been trained in it for double kills, running kills and the other various special kills."'' Really? I don't see what's so terribly complex about "stab two people at once" and "stab someone while running" that Edward couldn't figure out. Air kills in particular are something Edward would probably be quite skilled with already, being a sailor with a great talent for climbing. No doubt he's killed many men that way while boarding enemy ships, only now he's using an Assassin's hidden blade instead of his usual twin swords.
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*** The above is actually the best answer. If you look at the people rescued and the ones standing with Calico Jack they're the same. Those who are turning against you are Jacks own crew mates that he's already convinced to turn against Vanes. The bigger cause for confusion is why Vanes, Edward and Ade just stand there - those three could take Jack and the whole damn crew if they had to seeing as how you can basically do just that to any regular Man-o-War. GameplayAndStorySegregation at its finest.

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*** ** The above is actually the best answer. If you look at the people rescued and the ones standing with Calico Jack they're the same. Those who are turning against you are Jacks own crew mates that he's already convinced to turn against Vanes. The bigger cause for confusion is why Vanes, Edward and Ade just stand there - those three could take Jack and the whole damn crew if they had to seeing as how you can basically do just that to any regular Man-o-War. GameplayAndStorySegregation at its finest.



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*** Robert didn't like his brother much.

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*** That would be true if this wasn't already a running gag of the Assassin's Creed games. All that work Altaïr put into making things right in the first game? Irrelevant. Everything falls apart in front of him, he does nothing to stop it and his kid and best friend gets killed for it. Desmond busts his hump to save the world only to find out that every step of the way he's been manipulated and then [[spoiler: he dies.]] So having Edward die, his son taken in by the Templars and his daughter sold into sex slavery makes perfect sense for an epilogue. In the future we'll find out that Connor was killed by slipping and falling down the stairs to his home, accidentally crushing his infant child in the process.

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*** ** That would be true if this wasn't already a running gag of the Assassin's Creed games. All that work Altaïr put into making things right in the first game? Irrelevant. Everything falls apart in front of him, he does nothing to stop it and his kid and best friend gets killed for it. Desmond busts his hump to save the world only to find out that every step of the way he's been manipulated and then [[spoiler: he dies.]] So having Edward die, his son taken in by the Templars and his daughter sold into sex slavery makes perfect sense for an epilogue. In the future we'll find out that Connor was killed by slipping and falling down the stairs to his home, accidentally crushing his infant child in the process.
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*** That's easy. [[OhCrap They found Shao Jun's descendants and put them in the Animus]]. [[DramaticIrony Hell, they might even be working for Abstergo Entertainment.]]

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*** ** That's easy. [[OhCrap They found Shao Jun's descendants and put them in the Animus]]. [[DramaticIrony Hell, they might even be working for Abstergo Entertainment.]]



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** My guess is that it was something ment to prepare R-L for hosting Juno. Melanie mentions it was far below a lethal dose and he empties the syringe, so he couldn't have been trying to kill R-L. R-L was meant to be Juno's host, and she would use his body to take over Abstergo, but something went wrong on her end and R-L 's body wouldn't be able to handle the presence of a member of the First Civ. What I am interested in is why Juno chose a male host?
*** Nowhere was R-L's gender alluded to in any way. Especially considering John's comments about his/her body, it's not unreasonable to think R-L is actually a woman.

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** My guess is that it was something ment meant to prepare R-L for hosting Juno. Melanie mentions it was far below a lethal dose and he empties the syringe, so he couldn't have been trying to kill R-L. R-L was meant to be Juno's host, and she would use his body to take over Abstergo, but something went wrong on her end and R-L 's body wouldn't be able to handle the presence of a member of the First Civ. What I am interested in is why Juno chose a male host?
*** ** Nowhere was R-L's gender alluded to in any way. Especially considering John's comments about his/her body, it's not unreasonable to think R-L is actually a woman.
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** A few reasons present themselves. First, the Abstergo higher-ups are clearly pressuring the crew for time, so its possible anyone higher up has significant responsibilities already. Replaying Edward's life, while it does reveal important facts, is still effectively busywork since they can just record what they need. Second, it's possible that R-L was either intended to be inducted into the Order when they found what they were looking for, or alternatively was going to be killed. They had zero qualms about locking the new hire in a basement dungeon when they thought they were a traitor, and without the assistance of the Assassins they would not have escaped it.

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** A few reasons present themselves. First, the Abstergo higher-ups are clearly pressuring the crew for time, so its it's possible anyone higher up has significant responsibilities already. Replaying Edward's life, while it does reveal important facts, is still effectively busywork since they can just record what they need. Second, it's possible that R-L was either intended to be inducted into the Order when they found what they were looking for, or alternatively was going to be killed. They had zero qualms about locking the new hire in a basement dungeon when they thought they were a traitor, and without the assistance of the Assassins they would not have escaped it.it.

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** This is Edward Kenway we're talking about, the pirate who bought SOLID GOLD Cannons for his ship...I don't see any reason why he couldn't buy leather. As for the weight....Lightweight leather?
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** Because, as many liberties with history as the Assassin games do take, they try to adhere to Earth's true canonical historical timeline. Charles Vane really was set up by Rackham and left marooned on an island. It's probably the most competent thing Calico Jack ever managed to pull off on his own. Later Vane was rescued only to be turned over and hanged. But the only thing this version changes from Earth's true timeline is that Edward happened to be there. Ubisoft really does do their homework for these games, and the main characters are all witnesses to these great moments in history. I like to think the meta-reason you've never heard of Ezio or Edward is, well, they're a secret order of assassins and wouldn't be very effective without the "secret" part, and that Abstergo decided to write them out of history. Hey, the Chinese do that with their own history, why can't the Illuminati?
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** The number of people who'd pay for a pirate game is just too high to ignore.
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* Why did Abstergo Entertainment allow ''a completely new employee'' to view secret and classified information, such as the mere ''existence'' of the Templars and Assassins in the first place, let alone artifacts of power like the Observatory and vials? They try to handwave it by having some other characters laugh it off like it's fantasy, but wouldn't it be easier to have this job done by people who are already in the "need to know" list rather than a freaking new hire?

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* Why did Abstergo Entertainment allow ''a completely new employee'' to view secret and classified information, such as the mere ''existence'' of the Templars and Assassins in the first place, let alone artifacts of power like the Observatory and vials? They try to handwave it by having some other characters laugh it off like it's fantasy, but wouldn't it be easier to have this job done by people who are already in the "need to know" list rather than a freaking new hire?hire?
** A few reasons present themselves. First, the Abstergo higher-ups are clearly pressuring the crew for time, so its possible anyone higher up has significant responsibilities already. Replaying Edward's life, while it does reveal important facts, is still effectively busywork since they can just record what they need. Second, it's possible that R-L was either intended to be inducted into the Order when they found what they were looking for, or alternatively was going to be killed. They had zero qualms about locking the new hire in a basement dungeon when they thought they were a traitor, and without the assistance of the Assassins they would not have escaped it.
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* A meta headscratcher, but why would Ubisoft, of all companies, want to make a game with the main character being a pirate? The irony of the situation must be completely lost on them, what with their stance on modern Internet piracy.
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* Why did Abstergo Entertainment allow ''a completely new employee'' to view secret and classified information, such as the mere ''existence'' of the Templars and Assassins in the first place, let alone artifacts of power like the Observatory and vials? They try to handwave it by having some other characters laugh it off like it's fantasy, but wouldn't it be easier to have this job done by people who are already in the "need to know" list rather than a freaking new hire?
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*** Nowhere was R-L's gender alluded to in any way. Especially considering John's comments about his/her body, it's not unreasonable to think R-L is actually a woman.

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