History Headscratchers / AmericanHorrorStory1984

* The recent [[TheReveal reveal]] that [[spoiler: Margaret is the ''real'' Camp Redwood killer]] contradicts certain events of the previous episodes, namely the hitcher Jonas recognizing [[spoiler: Margaret]] and showing no fear but rather begs for forgiveness for running away and "leaving her behind" after he "saw her". He made it sound like he was being chased, but surely the only person who would've done the chasing would be ''her''? An odd reaction given that she's supposed to have ''killed him''! Is it possible that [[spoiler: Margaret's]] account of what happened that night isn't entirely accurate?
** Two things. One, Jonas’s memory seems to be unreliable (and inconsistent, at one point he knows he “doesn’t die here,” and the next is unaware that he’s dead: some AHS Ghosts seem to move in and out of awareness and lucidity, see also Nora in Murder House). So it’s possible that when talking to Margaret his memory loss/confusion was happening. Second— and alternatively- the flashback Jonas is shown having sees Margaret standing still, surrounded by her murdered cabin mates and covered in blood, which doesn’t contradict the events in '''True Killers''' (and actually seems like a pretty obvious clue) while still being understandable that he would assume Margaret was also under attack. He specifically mentions that he never saw his killer and just heard the jingle of keys. So, [[spoiler: Margaret has murdered everyone else, Jonas— either assuming she was also a victim in danger or seeing her commit the murders (but as a ghost currently doesn’t remember that)— runs away to the phone booth, tries to call the police but when the phone doesn’t work he tries to leave the camp all together only to be hit by a car and struck in the head and face by the driver— who he specifically states that he didn’t ''see'', but ''heard'' his keys.]]
* Speaking of ''Murder House'', a ghost rapes a human '''once''' and she immediately became [[FetusTerrible pregnant]]. I think we can all agree on how well that [[DeathByChildbirth didn't]] [[TheAntichrist end!]] What does this mean for Brooke after having sex with [[spoiler: Ray's ghost]]? Admittedly theirs was consensual but still...

** They all probably moved on, having little holding them to the earth, unlike the remaining cast [[spoiler: Presumably similar to what happened to Mr. Jingles.]]

** Alternatively, the [[spoiler: timeline change at the end of [[Series/AmericanHorrorStoryApocalypse Apocalypse]]]] could have caused his fate to unfold differently.

* In the final episode Montana tells [[spoiler:Bobby]] everyone he meets at Redwood is likely to kill him. However she also says in the same conversation that they all had communally agreed no more killing. And she isn't aware [[spoiler:Margaret]] is still at the camp. And they have [[spoiler:Richard]] on lockdown. Lastly the one person who scared all the ghosts [[spoiler:Jingles' mother]] had disappeared decades ago. Who exactly was she trying to warn him about? When he's escaping from [[spoiler:Richard]] we see every single ghost join together to save him, Bertie calling out "run kid!".
** Up until she found out that he was [[spoiler:Bobby]], she was probably trying to scare him into leaving.
** Alternatively, while the ghosts are united, some may still have blood lust and simply kill him on impulse. During their first meeting, you can see Montana's facial expression briefly flash angry. It could be that the ghosts are still struggling with the impulse to kill. The only reason they don't is because they have [[spoiler:Ramirez]] and [[spoiler:Margaret later on]] to torment.
** Or, even through they had [[spoiler:Richard]] contained, it only took one slip-up for him to escape and he came pretty close to killing [[spoiler:Bobby]].
* So I get that [[spoiler:Bobby can't really hang around Camp Redwood because of Margaret and Richard]], but what's stopping him from sending some sort of technology into the camp that would allow him to communicate with his father and/or people like Montana, such as a satellite phone?
** Nothing actually. You could setup a cellular booster and possibly get 2-way communications. Or, given the threat posed by [[spoiler:Margaret and Richard]], just setup a solar power system and radio and digital television receivers or a laptop and Kindles loaded with movies, music and books. That keeps things one-way and ensures neither BigBad can lure someone in. But someone has to purchase this equipment for them and if something breaks, someone has to come to the camp to check on things. That's time and money. Plus, I doubt you'd want someone asking questions about who is making phone calls from an abandoned camp. There's also the question of who owns the land and you might end up attracting unwanted attention.

** They all probably moved on they have nothing holding them to the earth unlike the remaining cast [[spoiler: Presumably similar to what happened to Mr Jingles]]

** It's also possible that Asylum/Freak Show/Roanoke are in a separate universe. There has of yet been no crossover between those and Murder House/Coven/Hotel/Apocalypse. Briarcliffe is mentioned in 1984, which would put it in the Asylum universe.

** He's brokebrained. The electroshock therapy combined with years of abuse at the hands of the legal system broke him. Put through all of that, he was led to believe he was. If Margaret hadn't told him the truth of the murders, he probably would've continued to be the killer.
* In the final episode Montana tells [[spoiler:Bobby]] everyone he meets at Redwood is likely to kill him. However she also says in the same conversation that they all had communally agreed no more killing. And she isn't aware [[spoiler:Margaret]] is still at the camp. And they have [[spoiler:Richard]] on lockdown. Lastly the one person who scared all the ghosts [[spoiler:Jingle's mother]] had disappeared decades ago. Who exactly was she trying to warn him about? When he's escaping from [[spoiler:Richard]] we see every single ghost join together to save him, Bertie calling out "run kid!".

** Nothing actually. You could setup a cellular booster and possibly get 2-way communications. Or, given the threat posed by [[spoiler:Margaret and Richard]], just setup a solar power system and radio and digital television receivers or a laptop and Kindles loaded with movies, music and books. But someone has to purchase this equipment for them and if something breaks, someone has to come to the camp to check on things. That's time and money. Plus, I doubt you'd want someone asking questions about who is making phone calls from an abandoned camp. There's also the question of who owns the land and you might end up attracting unwanted attention.

** Nothing actually. You could setup a cellular booster and possibly get 2-way communications. Or, given the threat posed by [[spoiler:Margaret and Richard]], just setup a solar power system and radio and digital television receivers or a laptop and Kindles loaded with movies, music and books. But someone has to purchase this equipment for them and if something breaks, someone has to come to the camp to check on things. That's time and money. Plus, Satellite phones are not cheap and I doubt you'd want someone asking questions about who is making phone calls from an abandoned camp.

** Nothing actually. You could setup a cellular booster and possibly get 2-way communications. Or, given the threat posed by [[spoiler:Margaret and Richard]], just setup a solar power system and radio and digital television receivers or a laptop and Kindles loaded with movies, music and books. But someone has to purchase this equipment for them and if something breaks, someone has to come to the camp to check on things.

* So I get that [[spoiler:Bobby can't really hang around Camp Redwood because of Margaret and Richard]], but what's stopping him from sending some sort of technology into the camp that would allow him to communicate with his father and/or people like Montana, such as a satellite phone?

** Or, even through they had [[spoiler:Richard]] contained, it only took one slip-up for him to escape and he came pretty close to killing [[spoiler:Bobby]].