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* Finn reassuring Susan in her first appearance that "grass can't hurt you". Come later seasons, and grass ''does'' hurt Finn. ''A lot''.
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* Finn reassuring Susan in her first appearance that "grass can't hurt you". Come later seasons, and grass ''does'' hurt Susan and Finn. ''A lot''.lot''.
* Every scene of Lemongrab abusing others became this after news got out in January 2023 that his VA, Justin Roiland, had been arrested on charges of domestic battery against and false imprisonment of his then girlfriend.
* Every scene of Lemongrab abusing others became this after news got out in January 2023 that his VA, Justin Roiland, had been arrested on charges of domestic battery against and false imprisonment of his then girlfriend.
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* Jake in "Prisoners of Love:" "Yeah I know what 'Ice King' means! A BIG NERD!" [[spoiler: Later episodes reveale the Ice King used to be a well-read archaeologist who published multiple books on the occult and arcane before the crown drove him insane. He really was a big nerd.]]
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* In "The Chamber of Frozen Blades," Ice King tells Dr. Princess that he's a widower, the joke being that he actually didn't know what that word meant. [[spoiler: Come the reveal in "Holly Jolly Secrets," and as far as anyone knew at the time, Ice King/Simon had long outlived Betty.]]
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* In "The Chamber of Frozen Blades," Ice King tells Dr. Princess that he's a widower, the joke being that he actually didn't know what that word meant. [[spoiler: Come the reveal in "Holly Jolly Secrets," and as far as anyone knew at the time, Ice King/Simon had long outlived Betty.a fiancée before he went mad.]]
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** In general, a lot of Lemongrab's scenes (especially his eventual treatment of Lemongrab 2 and his subjects) are hard to watch since in early 2023, {{Creator/Justin Roiland}} was fired from [[WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty numerous]] [[WesternAnimation/SolarOpposites shows]] due to a combination of [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor unprofessional behavior and multiple women coming forward with sexual harrasment allegations]].
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** In general, a lot of Lemongrab's scenes (especially his eventual treatment of Lemongrab 2 and his subjects) are hard to watch since in early 2023, {{Creator/Justin Roiland}} was fired from [[WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty numerous]] [[WesternAnimation/SolarOpposites shows]] due to a combination of [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor various allegations made against him]], ranging from unprofessional work behavior and multiple women coming forward with to sexual harrasment allegations]].harassment.
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!!''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''
HarsherInHindsight in this series.
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* Finn reassuring Susan in her first appearance that "grass can't hurt you". Come later seasons, and grass ''does'' hurt Finn. ''A lot''.
* After "Holly Jolly Secrets," anything the Ice King has ever done that was meant to be funny could be called this, as all of his antics are the product of a deteriorating mental state.
* The scene of PB pushing Lemongrab onto the floor and making him cry becomes cringe-worthy when it's revealed later on that Lemongrab thinks of PB as his mom.
* Marceline standing outside in the snow, staring into the window in "Holly Jolly Secrets II" is a punch in the heart now that it's revealed that Marceline was once a daughter figure to the Ice King, and had to watch him lose his mind.
* At the end of Too Young, Lemongrab leaves on his camel, looking miserable and sulky, muttering to himself as he returns to his home. Then we find out later that he has no friends, or anybody, back home.
* Jake joking in "Jake the Dad" that his kids are grown up. But in "Puhoy," when BMO reminds him of this, we see him struggling not to cry.
* So Marceline's dad just ate her fries. Doesn't seem like it's bad enough to refuse to talk to him ever again, right? But in "Memory of a Memory" we see [[spoiler: the fries he was eating were in a broken-down abandoned diner after the apocalypse. Chances are food of any kind was scarce and teenage nonvampire Marceline probably needed them more than her deathless father...]]
* Related to the above: In the Fionna and Cake episode, Cake wore the Ice Queen's tiara and Fionna knocked it off Cake's head, yelling, "No! You might catch her crazy!" As "Holly Jolly Secrets" revealed, the Ice King's crown [[spoiler: [[SanitySlippage caused him to go crazy]]]]. And the whole episode is a FanFic by the Ice King... so he knows to a certain extent that [[spoiler: he is not the person he used to be]]. Similarly, at the end of "The Eyes,"[[spoiler: Ice King, after spending the entire episode spying on Finn and Jake to learn the secret to happiness, ends the episode with the line [[YankTheDogsChain "I'm...still not happy".]]]] Sad enough in context, but after all the revelations concerning his past, it starts to seem like [[spoiler: he is subconsciously aware of what he's lost, on some level, and cannot be happy because of it.]]
* "Too Young," viewed as the creators of the show intended, is an episode that goes from funny to heartwarming to rather dark. However, when viewed from the failed experiment Lemongrab's point of view, it's depressing.
* An upset Lemongrab left at the end of "Too Young," and came back a year later. He mentions that his castle has no citizens. According to WordOfGod, the only people in his castle are his servants, and he [[FriendlessBackground has no friends]]. When Lemongrab goes home in "Too Young," he's returning to a life of [[GildedCage near-total isolation]].
* Even though Lemongrab is really unlikable in it, "Too Old" makes it painful to rewatch "You Made Me!" After the events of "You Made Me!," Lemongrab becomes a happy, adjusted person who has a wonderful friend, and a creator who worries about him and cares about his feelings. Watching "Too Old" after watching "You Made Me!" is going right back to square one, back to Lemongrab's angry, isolated, self-loathing, sad, friendless, lonely life- and Princess Bubblegum reprimanding him and bullying him when he ends up ''[[TyrantTakesTheHelm royally sucking]]'' at his job.
* Ash selling Hambo to that witch. [[spoiler:It was revealed in "I Remember You" that Simon Petrikov gave child Marceline Hambo when she was scared and alone in the post-apocalyptic wreckage.]] Just when you thought you couldn't think of Ash as more of a dick.
* While Marceline's journal song is already pretty harsh, given that she's admitting to being lonely, hating being immortal and pushing people away so that she won't get hurt, but there's one line in particular that becomes [[TearJerker/AdventureTime unbelievably heartbreaking]] after watching "I Remember You":
---->'''Marceline:''' ''(singing)'' They don't know what it's like to live forever and forget who they even are...
* Similarly to the above, Marceline's line about not having friends was a TearJerker to begin with, and then it's revealed that she [[spoiler: grew up in an irradiated, post-apocalyptic wasteland. She probably didn't have friends because she and Simon were the only survivors around.]]
* Many of the [[MindScrew strange]] events in "King Worm" become this after [[GainaxEnding the end of season 4.]] [[spoiler:Hint: DreamingOfThingsToCome. Watching the episode [[ReWatchBonus again]] becomes [[NightmareFuel/AdventureTime downright disturbing.]]]]
* In "All Your Fault," it is revealed that Lemongrab has suicidal thoughts. Remember the scene in "Too Young" where he walked out of a window? Or the scene in "You Made Me" when he purposefully fell out of one? [[FridgeHorror Yeah]].
* All of the scenes of Lemongrab and his brother loving each other are really cringe-worthy to watch now that Lemongrab has [[spoiler: partially eaten his clone, and is now abusing him verbally]].
* [[spoiler:Creator/ClorisLeachman's character being reduced to a skeleton and later consumed by the molten lava is now now tragic in recent following Leachman's passing in 2021 from both a stroke and UsefulNotes/COVID19.]]
HarsherInHindsight in this series.
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* Finn reassuring Susan in her first appearance that "grass can't hurt you". Come later seasons, and grass ''does'' hurt Finn. ''A lot''.
* After "Holly Jolly Secrets," anything the Ice King has ever done that was meant to be funny could be called this, as all of his antics are the product of a deteriorating mental state.
* The scene of PB pushing Lemongrab onto the floor and making him cry becomes cringe-worthy when it's revealed later on that Lemongrab thinks of PB as his mom.
* Marceline standing outside in the snow, staring into the window in "Holly Jolly Secrets II" is a punch in the heart now that it's revealed that Marceline was once a daughter figure to the Ice King, and had to watch him lose his mind.
* At the end of Too Young, Lemongrab leaves on his camel, looking miserable and sulky, muttering to himself as he returns to his home. Then we find out later that he has no friends, or anybody, back home.
* Jake joking in "Jake the Dad" that his kids are grown up. But in "Puhoy," when BMO reminds him of this, we see him struggling not to cry.
* So Marceline's dad just ate her fries. Doesn't seem like it's bad enough to refuse to talk to him ever again, right? But in "Memory of a Memory" we see [[spoiler: the fries he was eating were in a broken-down abandoned diner after the apocalypse. Chances are food of any kind was scarce and teenage nonvampire Marceline probably needed them more than her deathless father...]]
* Related to the above: In the Fionna and Cake episode, Cake wore the Ice Queen's tiara and Fionna knocked it off Cake's head, yelling, "No! You might catch her crazy!" As "Holly Jolly Secrets" revealed, the Ice King's crown [[spoiler: [[SanitySlippage caused him to go crazy]]]]. And the whole episode is a FanFic by the Ice King... so he knows to a certain extent that [[spoiler: he is not the person he used to be]]. Similarly, at the end of "The Eyes,"[[spoiler: Ice King, after spending the entire episode spying on Finn and Jake to learn the secret to happiness, ends the episode with the line [[YankTheDogsChain "I'm...still not happy".]]]] Sad enough in context, but after all the revelations concerning his past, it starts to seem like [[spoiler: he is subconsciously aware of what he's lost, on some level, and cannot be happy because of it.]]
* "Too Young," viewed as the creators of the show intended, is an episode that goes from funny to heartwarming to rather dark. However, when viewed from the failed experiment Lemongrab's point of view, it's depressing.
* An upset Lemongrab left at the end of "Too Young," and came back a year later. He mentions that his castle has no citizens. According to WordOfGod, the only people in his castle are his servants, and he [[FriendlessBackground has no friends]]. When Lemongrab goes home in "Too Young," he's returning to a life of [[GildedCage near-total isolation]].
* Even though Lemongrab is really unlikable in it, "Too Old" makes it painful to rewatch "You Made Me!" After the events of "You Made Me!," Lemongrab becomes a happy, adjusted person who has a wonderful friend, and a creator who worries about him and cares about his feelings. Watching "Too Old" after watching "You Made Me!" is going right back to square one, back to Lemongrab's angry, isolated, self-loathing, sad, friendless, lonely life- and Princess Bubblegum reprimanding him and bullying him when he ends up ''[[TyrantTakesTheHelm royally sucking]]'' at his job.
* Ash selling Hambo to that witch. [[spoiler:It was revealed in "I Remember You" that Simon Petrikov gave child Marceline Hambo when she was scared and alone in the post-apocalyptic wreckage.]] Just when you thought you couldn't think of Ash as more of a dick.
* While Marceline's journal song is already pretty harsh, given that she's admitting to being lonely, hating being immortal and pushing people away so that she won't get hurt, but there's one line in particular that becomes [[TearJerker/AdventureTime unbelievably heartbreaking]] after watching "I Remember You":
---->'''Marceline:''' ''(singing)'' They don't know what it's like to live forever and forget who they even are...
* Similarly to the above, Marceline's line about not having friends was a TearJerker to begin with, and then it's revealed that she [[spoiler: grew up in an irradiated, post-apocalyptic wasteland. She probably didn't have friends because she and Simon were the only survivors around.]]
* Many of the [[MindScrew strange]] events in "King Worm" become this after [[GainaxEnding the end of season 4.]] [[spoiler:Hint: DreamingOfThingsToCome. Watching the episode [[ReWatchBonus again]] becomes [[NightmareFuel/AdventureTime downright disturbing.]]]]
* In "All Your Fault," it is revealed that Lemongrab has suicidal thoughts. Remember the scene in "Too Young" where he walked out of a window? Or the scene in "You Made Me" when he purposefully fell out of one? [[FridgeHorror Yeah]].
* All of the scenes of Lemongrab and his brother loving each other are really cringe-worthy to watch now that Lemongrab has [[spoiler: partially eaten his clone, and is now abusing him verbally]].
* [[spoiler:Creator/ClorisLeachman's character being reduced to a skeleton and later consumed by the molten lava is now now tragic in recent following Leachman's passing in 2021 from both a stroke and UsefulNotes/COVID19.]]
