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* Billy's depression and some of his outright erratic behavior during ''ComicBook/AvengersTheChildrensCrusade'' might have a simple explanation when you remember everything he went through during the [[ComicBook/CivilWar Civil War]], from being captured and forced to watch as his boyfriend got vivisected by a mad scientist to being held as a POW in the Negative Zone. He's most likely suffering from [[ShellShockedVeteran PTSD]]!
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* Billy's depression and some of his outright erratic behavior during ''ComicBook/AvengersTheChildrensCrusade'' might have a simple explanation when you remember everything he went through during the [[ComicBook/CivilWar Civil War]], ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}, from being captured and forced to watch as his boyfriend got vivisected by a mad scientist to being held as a POW in the Negative Zone. He's most likely suffering from [[ShellShockedVeteran PTSD]]!
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** Related to this, the fact that Loki apparently has no problem with Billy and Teddy being gay seems odd until you remember that, as a magic-user, he was likely assumed to be/accused of being gay himself, and doesn't see it as a bad thing.
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** Related to this, the fact that Loki apparently has no problem with Billy and Teddy being gay seems odd until you remember that, as a magic-user, he was likely assumed to be/accused of being gay himself, himself and doesn't see it as a bad thing.
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*** Also consider the couple of Billy and Teddy: one is a strong, handsome, good-natured blond who tends to depend on his physical strength in fights while the other is a comparably-weaker, snarky, dark-haired magic user. Loki's plan to plant seeds of mistrust between the two to break them up may be caused by him working out a few issues between himself and Thor.
* Prodigy's status as an outsider, unaccounted for in Loki's plans, means that the former X-Man is now a literal [[IncrediblyLamePun X-Factor]].
* Prodigy's status as an outsider, unaccounted for in Loki's plans, means that the former X-Man is now a literal [[IncrediblyLamePun X-Factor]].
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*** Also consider the couple of Billy and Teddy: one is a strong, handsome, good-natured blond who tends to depend on his physical strength in fights while the other is a comparably-weaker, comparably weaker, snarky, dark-haired magic user. Loki's plan to plant seeds of mistrust between the two to break them up may be caused by him working out a few issues between himself and Thor.
* Prodigy's status as an outsider, unaccounted for in Loki's plans, means that the former X-Man is now a literal[[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} X-Factor]].
* Prodigy's status as an outsider, unaccounted for in Loki's plans, means that the former X-Man is now a literal
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* Billy's depression and some of his outright erratic behavior during ''ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade'' might have a simple explanation when you remember everything he went through during the [[ComicBook/CivilWar Civil War]], from being captured and forced to watch as his boyfriend got vivisected by a mad scientist to being held as a POW in the Negative Zone. He's most likely suffering from [[ShellShockedVeteran PTSD]]!
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* Billy's depression and some of his outright erratic behavior during ''ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade'' ''ComicBook/AvengersTheChildrensCrusade'' might have a simple explanation when you remember everything he went through during the [[ComicBook/CivilWar Civil War]], from being captured and forced to watch as his boyfriend got vivisected by a mad scientist to being held as a POW in the Negative Zone. He's most likely suffering from [[ShellShockedVeteran PTSD]]!
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*** Why would a ''pagan god'' subscribe to moral norms rooted in the Abrahamic religions? This has been toyed with in ''Comicbook/TheIncredibleHercules'' where writers have at least started to acknowledge that in AncientGreece people (and gods) were not exclusively heterosexual.
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*** Why would a ''pagan god'' subscribe to moral norms rooted in the Abrahamic religions? This has been toyed with in ''Comicbook/TheIncredibleHercules'' where writers have at least started to acknowledge that in AncientGreece UsefulNotes/AncientGreece people (and gods) were not exclusively heterosexual.
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** Confirmed in his backstory. Teddy originally used his powers to become more buff so as to fit in with the jocks at school, even though his super strength works just fine when he is human-sized rather than hulked out. Also, the Super-Skrull used a device on him to force him into his true form, which as it turns out is exactly the same as his regular teenage appearance. Every other appearance he assumes is a function of shapeshifting and may reflect his current frame of mind.
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*** Also consider the couple of Billy and Teddy: one is a strong, handsome, good-natured blond who tends to depend on his physical strength in fights while the other is a comparably-weaker, snarky, dark-haired magic user. Loki's plan to plant seeds of mistrust between the two to break them up may be caused by him working out a few issues between himself and Thor.
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*** Why would a ''pagan god'' subscribe to moral norms rooted in the Abrahamic religions? This has been toyed with in ''Comicbook/TheIncredibleHercules'' where writers have at least started to acknowledge that in AncientGreece people (and gods) were not exclusively heterosexual.
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* Teddy's proportions tend to vary from issue to issue. At times he's barely an inch or so taller than Billy with the same body mass, at others he towers over his teammates and become much wider and bulkier. While you could blame shifts in artistic style from different artists, there's also an in-canon explanation: Teddy's a shapeshifter. Of course he can change his proportions depending on his mood or the situation at hand!
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* Billy's depression and some of his outright erratic behavior during ''TheChildrensCrusade'' might have a simple explanation when you remember everything he went through during the [[ComicBook/CivilWar Civil War]], from being captured and forced to watch as his boyfriend got vivisected by a mad scientist to being held as a POW in the Negative Zone. He's most likely suffering from [[ShellShockedVeteran PTSD]]!
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* Billy's depression and some of his outright erratic behavior during ''TheChildrensCrusade'' ''ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade'' might have a simple explanation when you remember everything he went through during the [[ComicBook/CivilWar Civil War]], from being captured and forced to watch as his boyfriend got vivisected by a mad scientist to being held as a POW in the Negative Zone. He's most likely suffering from [[ShellShockedVeteran PTSD]]!
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* Billy's depression and some of his outright erratic behavior during ''TheChildrensCrusade'' might have a simple explanation when you remember everything he went through during the [[ComicBook/CivilWar Civil War]], from being captured and forced to watch as his boyfriend got vivisected by a mad scientist to being held as a POW in the Negative Zone. He's most likely suffering from [[ShellShockedVeteran PTSD]]!
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** This same thought applies to [[spoiler: whatever it is that Fake Patriot has done to him, or wherever he's been taken.]]
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** This same thought applies to [[spoiler: whatever it is that Fake Patriot has done to him, or wherever he's been taken.]]]]
* During the team's lovely trip through TheMultiverse, they find horrible alternate realities, most of which are [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic hell-holes]]. As Kate stated, it's entirely possible that Earth-616 is the best of all possible worlds. That's right, a world where America went through several devastating civil wars, where mutants are regularly discriminated against and nearly wiped out every other decade, where people constantly have their loved ones die ([[DeathIsCheap and maybe come back somewhat sane and functional]]} is ''the best of all possible worlds''!
* During the team's lovely trip through TheMultiverse, they find horrible alternate realities, most of which are [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic hell-holes]]. As Kate stated, it's entirely possible that Earth-616 is the best of all possible worlds. That's right, a world where America went through several devastating civil wars, where mutants are regularly discriminated against and nearly wiped out every other decade, where people constantly have their loved ones die ([[DeathIsCheap and maybe come back somewhat sane and functional]]} is ''the best of all possible worlds''!
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* America's sexual identity is an [[InvertedTrope inverse]] of the typical cis-gendered heterosexual girl. She comes from a universe where it seems being a lesbian is not only accepted, but hinted at being the norm judging from her mothers and the other couple who brought the news of her mothers' deaths. She also briefly [[ExperimentedInCollege experimented]] with the Ultimate Nullifier before ultimately accepting that she was lesbian.
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*** And now Loki has pointed out that he grew up in a time where sexuality wasn't split up the way it is and makes a pass at Prodigy.
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* Issue 6 of the 2013 run confirms that Tommy has sped up time perception like Pietro. It's stated that in juvie he was experimented on. Imagine how that would be for someone who feels five minutes as a week.
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* Issue 6 of the 2013 run confirms that Tommy has sped up time perception like Pietro. It's stated that in juvie he was experimented on. Imagine how that would be for someone who feels five minutes as a week.week.
** This same thought applies to [[spoiler: whatever it is that Fake Patriot has done to him, or wherever he's been taken.]]
** This same thought applies to [[spoiler: whatever it is that Fake Patriot has done to him, or wherever he's been taken.]]
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* Prodigy's status as an outsider, unaccounted for in Loki's plans, means that the former X-Man is now a literal [[IncrediblyLamePun X-Factor]].
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* Issue 6 of the 2013 run confirms that Tommy has sped up time perception like Pietro. It's stated that in juvie he was experimented on. Imagine how that would be for someone who feels five minutes as a week.
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* Issue 6 of the 2013 run confirms that Tommy has sped up time perception like Pietro. It's stated that in juvie he was experimented on. Imagine how that would be for someone who feels five minutes as a week.
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*** Plus He once turned into a female horse and had sex with a male horse giving birth to Sleipnir
*** Plus He once turned into a female horse and had sex with a male horse giving birth to Sleipnir
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* Billy Kaplan's original superhero name, "The Asgardian," makes sense in light of Norse Mythology, where the type of magic practiced by Odin, known as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sei%C3%B0r Seiðr]], was infamous for its connotations with homosexuality and feminity. Loki once [[HypocriticalHumor taunted Odin for practicing it]], essentially calling him a "girly-man." As a Norse mythology geek, Billy was most likely aware of this and therefore used his nickname as a way to take pride in his sexual orientation!
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* Billy Kaplan's original superhero name, "The Asgardian," makes sense in light of Norse Mythology, where the type of magic practiced by Odin, known as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sei%C3%B0r Seiðr]], was infamous for its connotations with homosexuality and feminity. Loki once [[HypocriticalHumor taunted Odin for practicing it]], essentially calling him a "girly-man." As a Norse mythology geek, Billy was most likely aware of this and therefore used his nickname as a way to take pride in his sexual orientation!orientation!
** Related to this, the fact that Loki apparently has no problem with Billy and Teddy being gay seems odd until you remember that, as a magic-user, he was likely assumed to be/accused of being gay himself, and doesn't see it as a bad thing.
** Related to this, the fact that Loki apparently has no problem with Billy and Teddy being gay seems odd until you remember that, as a magic-user, he was likely assumed to be/accused of being gay himself, and doesn't see it as a bad thing.
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* Billy Kaplan's original superhero name, "The Asgardian," makes sense in light of Norse Mythology, where the type of magic practiced by Odin, known as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sei%C3%B0r Seiðr]], was infamous for its connotations with homosexuality and feminity. Loki once [[HypocriticalHumor taunted Odin for practicing it]], essentially calling him a "girly-man." As a Norse mythology geek, Billy was most likely aware of this and therefore used his nickname as a way to take pride in his sexual orientation!
* Billy Kaplan's original superhero name, "The Asgardian," makes sense in light of Norse Mythology, where the type of magic practiced by Odin, known as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sei%C3%B0r Seiðr]], was infamous for its connotations with homosexuality and feminity. Loki once [[HypocriticalHumor taunted Odin for practicing it]], essentially calling him a "girly-man." As a Norse mythology geek, Billy was most likely aware of this and therefore used his nickname as a way to take pride in his sexual orientation!
