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* Why haven't any of the demons figured out how to create virtues yet? The trouble that Screwtape gets into with the Secret Police for admitting that God's love is real seems to hint at an answer. It's likely that any demon who thinks too hard about how virtues are made will start having realizations similar to Screwtape's -- at which point, they either start keeping very quiet, or are swiftly "corrected".
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** Add to that the fact that Screwtape never calls Satan anything but "our Father" or "our Father below." Yes, propaganda prevents him from expressing any negative sentiment, but there cannot possibly be ''any'' familial bonds of affection between devils, only masked hatred. Screwtape or any of his fellows would overthrow Satan if they could, if only because being at the top (?) of the Lowerarchy might be less miserable than where they are now.

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** Add to that the fact that Screwtape never calls Satan anything but "our Father" or "our Father below." Yes, propaganda prevents him from expressing any negative sentiment, but there cannot possibly be ''any'' familial bonds of affection between devils, only masked hatred. Screwtape or any of his fellows would overthrow Satan if they could, if only because being at the top (?) bottom of the Lowerarchy might be less miserable than where they are now.
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* Screwtape regularly sneers at other demons, and seems to regard everyone in Hell except himself as an incompetent buffoon. Yet, he also credits just about every major development in recent human history to brilliant plotting on the part of Hell's various departments. In this, Screwtape's attitude is the perfect antithesis of the Christian notion of faith -- where a Christian is supposed to be able to maintain trust in God's plan for them even when everything seems bleak and hopeless, Screwtape can't work up any trust in those he works for even when he can clearly see how well their plans work.
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** Add to that the fact that Screwtape never calls Satan anything but "our Father" or "our Father below." Yes, propaganda prevents him from expressing any negative sentiment, but there cannot possibly be ''any'' familial bonds of affection between devils, only masked hatred. Screwtape or any of his fellows would overthrow Satan if they could, if only because being at the top (?) of the Lowerarchy might be less miserable than where they are now.
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* One about the lack of good sequels...part of it is that while most tend to use it to speak about elements of society that they dislike, they forget that one of Lewis' best sources was his own PERSONAL temptations. Lewis loved Britain, and spoke about its flaws from that perspective, where most evangelicals see themselves apart from society.

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* One about the lack of good sequels... part of it is that while most tend to use it to speak about elements of society that they dislike, they forget that one of Lewis' best sources was his own PERSONAL temptations. Lewis loved Britain, and spoke about its flaws from that perspective, where most evangelicals see themselves apart from society.
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* Overlapping with FridgeBrilliance. Throughout the letters, Screwtape keeps addressing Wormwood as "my dear Wormwood" and referring to himself as "your affectionate uncle." As the letters progress, we find that devils never feel love, and indeed [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove don't even understand the concept]]. Then, in the final letter, we find that Screwtape gets particularly affectionate towards Wormwood as he prepares to [[ImAHumanitarian eat him]]. His "affection" (reciprocated, apparently) was hunger, and his terms of endearment were TermsOfEndangerment all along.

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* Overlapping with FridgeBrilliance. Throughout the letters, Screwtape keeps addressing Wormwood as "my dear Wormwood" and referring to himself as "your affectionate uncle." As the letters progress, we find that devils never feel love, and indeed [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove don't even understand the concept]]. Then, in the final letter, we find that Screwtape gets particularly affectionate towards Wormwood as he prepares to [[ImAHumanitarian eat him]]. His "affection" (reciprocated, apparently) was hunger, and his terms of endearment were TermsOfEndangerment all along.along.
* The sheer power the devils have over human thoughts is terrifying, as again and again Screwtape has Wormwood influence what the Patient thinks and feels, and whenever he gets wise to it winds up with his good thoughts corrupted (such as becoming proud of his humility and otherwise thinking he has seen through the devils’ traps), such that even someone who believes he is coming closer to God and shunning the Devil may be [[UnwittingPawn merely playing into Satan’s hands all along]] and end up in Hell, ''and there is nothing he can do about it''.
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* Overlapping with FridgeBrilliance. Throughout the letters, Screwtape keeps addressing Wormwood as "my dear Wormwood" and referring to himself as "your affectionate uncle." As the letters progress, we find that devils never feel love, and indeed [[WhatIsThisThingCalledLove don't even understand the concept]]. Then, in the final letter, we find that Screwtape gets particularly affectionate towards Wormwood as he prepares to [[ImAHumanitarian eat him]]. His "affection" (reciprocated, apparently) was hunger, and his terms of endearment were TermsOfEndangerment all along.

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* Overlapping with FridgeBrilliance. Throughout the letters, Screwtape keeps addressing Wormwood as "my dear Wormwood" and referring to himself as "your affectionate uncle." As the letters progress, we find that devils never feel love, and indeed [[WhatIsThisThingCalledLove [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove don't even understand the concept]]. Then, in the final letter, we find that Screwtape gets particularly affectionate towards Wormwood as he prepares to [[ImAHumanitarian eat him]]. His "affection" (reciprocated, apparently) was hunger, and his terms of endearment were TermsOfEndangerment all along.
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* One about the lack of good sequels...part of it is that while most tend to use it to speak about elements of society that they dislike, they forget that one of Lewis' best sources was his own PERSONAL temptations. Lewis loved Britain, and spoke about its flaws from that perspective, where most evangelicals see themselves apart from society.

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* One about the lack of good sequels...part of it is that while most tend to use it to speak about elements of society that they dislike, they forget that one of Lewis' best sources was his own PERSONAL temptations. Lewis loved Britain, and spoke about its flaws from that perspective, where most evangelicals see themselves apart from society.society.

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* Overlapping with FridgeBrilliance. Throughout the letters, Screwtape keeps addressing Wormwood as "my dear Wormwood" and referring to himself as "your affectionate uncle." As the letters progress, we find that devils never feel love, and indeed [[WhatIsThisThingCalledLove don't even understand the concept]]. Then, in the final letter, we find that Screwtape gets particularly affectionate towards Wormwood as he prepares to [[ImAHumanitarian eat him]]. His "affection" (reciprocated, apparently) was hunger, and his terms of endearment were TermsOfEndangerment all along.
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* In "Screwtape Proposes A Toast", Screwtape justifies seeking to damn people for minor sins on the grounds that it's BoringButPractical; the resulting souls may not be as enjoyable to eat as truly great, passionate sinners, but they are much less risky to acquire. However, there might also be another reason for using this strategy, when you consider that Lewis portrays demons as pretending to be allied while actually all seeking to ruin each other. Keeping up a steady supply of subpar souls means you get to be just helpful enough to avoid getting fired, but without doing something as un-demon-like as making another being happy.

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* In "Screwtape Proposes A Toast", Screwtape justifies seeking to damn people for minor sins on the grounds that it's BoringButPractical; the resulting souls may not be as enjoyable to eat as truly great, passionate sinners, but they are much less risky to acquire. However, there might also be another reason for using this strategy, when you consider that Lewis portrays demons as pretending to be allied while actually all seeking to ruin each other. Keeping up a steady supply of subpar souls means you get to be just helpful enough to avoid getting fired, but without doing something as un-demon-like as making another being happy.happy.
* One about the lack of good sequels...part of it is that while most tend to use it to speak about elements of society that they dislike, they forget that one of Lewis' best sources was his own PERSONAL temptations. Lewis loved Britain, and spoke about its flaws from that perspective, where most evangelicals see themselves apart from society.
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* As anyone who's ever actually read his stuff could tell you, Pr. Lewis was not a foolish man. All the dumb issues that come with the YouHaveFailedMe trope would doubtlessly be plain as day to a man like him. But as he makes clear in other works, the demons reject God and all their works, but God is the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous Father/Mother/Parent]] of all things, including ''basic logic''. So ''of course'' they'd use such dumb and counterproductive tactics as this trope!

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* As anyone who's ever actually read his stuff could tell you, Pr. Lewis was not a foolish man. All the dumb issues that come with the YouHaveFailedMe trope would doubtlessly be plain as day to a man like him. But as he makes clear in other works, the demons reject God and all their works, but God is the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous Father/Mother/Parent]] [[GodIsGood Father of all things, things,]] including ''basic logic''. So ''of course'' they'd use such dumb and counterproductive tactics as this trope!
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* As anyone who's ever actually read his stuff could tell you, Pr. Lewis was not a foolish man. All the dumb issues that come with the YouHaveFailedMe trope would doubtlessly be plain as day to a man like him. But as he makes clear in other works, the demons reject God and all their works, but God is the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous Father/Mother/Parent]] of all things, including ''basic logic''. So ''of course'' they'd use such dumb and counterproductive tactics as this trope!

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* As anyone who's ever actually read his stuff could tell you, Pr. Lewis was not a foolish man. All the dumb issues that come with the YouHaveFailedMe trope would doubtlessly be plain as day to a man like him. But as he makes clear in other works, the demons reject God and all their works, but God is the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous Father/Mother/Parent]] of all things, including ''basic logic''. So ''of course'' they'd use such dumb and counterproductive tactics as this trope!trope!
* In "Screwtape Proposes A Toast", Screwtape justifies seeking to damn people for minor sins on the grounds that it's BoringButPractical; the resulting souls may not be as enjoyable to eat as truly great, passionate sinners, but they are much less risky to acquire. However, there might also be another reason for using this strategy, when you consider that Lewis portrays demons as pretending to be allied while actually all seeking to ruin each other. Keeping up a steady supply of subpar souls means you get to be just helpful enough to avoid getting fired, but without doing something as un-demon-like as making another being happy.
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* As anyone who's ever actually read his stuff could tell you, Pr. Lewis was not a foolish man. All the dumb issues that come with the YouHaveFailedMe trope would doubtlessly be plain as day to a man like him. But as he makes clear in other works, the demons reject God and all their works, but God is the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous Father/Mother/Parent]] of all things, including ''basic logic'' . So ''of course'' they'd use such dumb and counterproductive tactics as this trope!

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* As anyone who's ever actually read his stuff could tell you, Pr. Lewis was not a foolish man. All the dumb issues that come with the YouHaveFailedMe trope would doubtlessly be plain as day to a man like him. But as he makes clear in other works, the demons reject God and all their works, but God is the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous Father/Mother/Parent]] of all things, including ''basic logic'' .logic''. So ''of course'' they'd use such dumb and counterproductive tactics as this trope!
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* As anyone who's ever actually read his stuff could tell you, Pr. Lewis was not a foolish man. All the dumb issues that come with the YouHaveFailedMe trope would doubtlessly be plain as day to a man like him. But as he makes clear in other works, the demons reject God and all their works, but God is the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous Father/Mother/Parent]] of all things, including ''basic logic'' . So ''of course'' they'd use such dumb and counterproductive tactics as this trope!

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