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* This is more of a meta example but consider how evil Sebastian is. Think about all the cruel things he's done and tried to do from killing a little boy to attacking and trying to rape his sister and worst yet [[spoiler: he tries to destroy the entire world]]. Despite all these things fans still think of him as innocent and feel bad for him, even before the ending where [[spoiler: we meet non-demon Sebastian]], some fans feel he's not evil and that he's cute, Clare even has it that he'd been whipped by Valentine and has at time even shown some ambiguity as to whether she believes he's evil. Fans even ship him and Clary together! A less extreme example is Jordan and Maia. Jordon abused Maia but Clare suddenly gives him the excuse that his werewolfism made him do it and suddenly everyone accepts it. Clare even hand-waves it when some people pointed out that it seems like a poor excuse. Granted [[spoiler: Jordan dies and Maia was planning on breaking up with him but she had a hard time trying to]]. Clare may not be doing it on purpose but she's sort of condoning violent relationships and the fans are eating it up and don't know the difference and if she does notice this she's not doing anything about it. And that's whats horrifying that some people think these things are forgivable.
** Um....''Literature/{{Twilight}}''? The [[UnfortunateImplications current fad seems to be for quasi-abusive relationships]]. Extra points if the guy knows he's doing it, and feels guilty about it.
*** Yeah its nothing new but its still disturbing nonetheless. Let's see though: Sebastian knows what he's doing but doesn't care, Jordan does as well and did feel guilty about it, at least afterwards when he transformed.
** Um....''Literature/{{Twilight}}''? The [[UnfortunateImplications current fad seems to be for quasi-abusive relationships]]. Extra points if the guy knows he's doing it, and feels guilty about it.
*** Yeah its nothing new but its still disturbing nonetheless. Let's see though: Sebastian knows what he's doing but doesn't care, Jordan does as well and did feel guilty about it, at least afterwards when he transformed.
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** Um....''Literature/{{Twilight}}''? The [[UnfortunateImplications current fad seems to be for quasi-abusive relationships]]. Extra points if the guy knows he's doing it, and feels guilty about it.
*** Yeah its nothing new but its still disturbing nonetheless. Let's see though: Sebastian knows what he's doing but doesn't care, Jordan does as well and did feel guilty about it, at least afterwards when he transformed.
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* The success of the demonic siege on Alicante, and the fact that nowhere in the city was safe, might seem odd at first. But given their NayTheist tendencies, the Nephilim do not actually have ''any'' places of worship within the entire country of Idris! There is basically no hallowed ground, just the magical wards created by the towers and localized wards made using runes. The Shadowhunters have a very utilitarian mentality when it comes to religious symbolism. For example, using such symbols against vampires. They probably also had very limited supplies of things like holy water, since they normally obtain that from allies among mundane religions. Believing that Idris and Alicante were utterly secure, there would probably have been less of it in the whole country than there is stockpiled in most Institutes in mundane cities and lacking any kind of clergy they could not produce it as needed.
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** In City of Lost Souls it's stated the rune Clary uses to destroy the inter-dimensional apartment is not one that had already existed, and was completely new.
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** In City of Lost Souls it's stated the rune Clary uses to destroy the inter-dimensional apartment is not one that had already existed, and was completely new.
new. New to her anyway. The Alliance, Portal and Channel Heavenly Fire runes were also completely unknown to the Nephilim until Clary introduced them. Even the Silent Brothers acknowledge that they only know a children's book worth of words from the language of Heaven, and have absolutely no idea as to how the vocabulary and syntax of that language really works.
** That Valentine took the angel blood that he fed to the pregnant Jocelyn from Ithuriel would account for why Ithuriel seemingly has a PsychicLink to Clary, but not to all the Shadowhunters. The rest carry ''Raziel's'' blood. Clary's prenatal exposure to Ithuriel's blood gives him a connection to her. But her mind was closed to him for most of her life because of Magnus's elaborate LaserGuidedAmnesia spell, which also limited the Silent Brothers' telepathic access to her mind even at close range and while working in concert. Notably, Ithuriel starts having more influence on Clary around the time that the spell begins to wear off because Magnus is no longer renewing it. Jace developed a more physical enhancement because he was always pressured to be a perfect warrior, and his willful agnosticism and emotional issues might have made him harder to reach mentally. Even his parabatai bond with Alec was very limited as compared to some other such pairs.
** That Valentine took the angel blood that he fed to the pregnant Jocelyn from Ithuriel would account for why Ithuriel seemingly has a PsychicLink to Clary, but not to all the Shadowhunters. The rest carry ''Raziel's'' blood. Clary's prenatal exposure to Ithuriel's blood gives him a connection to her. But her mind was closed to him for most of her life because of Magnus's elaborate LaserGuidedAmnesia spell, which also limited the Silent Brothers' telepathic access to her mind even at close range and while working in concert. Notably, Ithuriel starts having more influence on Clary around the time that the spell begins to wear off because Magnus is no longer renewing it. Jace developed a more physical enhancement because he was always pressured to be a perfect warrior, and his willful agnosticism and emotional issues might have made him harder to reach mentally. Even his parabatai bond with Alec was very limited as compared to some other such pairs.
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** in city of lost souls it's stated the rune clary uses to destroy the inter dimensional apartment is not one that had already existed, and was completely new
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** in city of lost souls it's stated the rune clary uses to destroy the inter dimensional apartment is not one that had already existed, and was completely new
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* When you realize that the bad guy (Valentine) got the Shadowhunter funeral and the two people he hurt the most (Amatis, Celine) are buried as outcast dead, which means their spirits can't move on. (It makes more sense if you've read ''The Infernal Devices''.
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* When you realize that the bad guy (Valentine) got the Shadowhunter funeral and the two people he hurt the most (Amatis, Celine) are buried as outcast dead, which means their spirits can't move on. (It makes more sense if you've read ''The Infernal Devices''.Devices''.
** The Shadowhunters' excuse for that is that they didn't want to risk Valentine coming back again. As for Celine she committed suicide and supposedly didn't deserve a respectful death. Yeah... (For extra Fridge Horror its hinted that Celine was killed and the murderer made it look like it was suicide. How's that for messed up?)
** The Shadowhunters' excuse for that is that they didn't want to risk Valentine coming back again. As for Celine she committed suicide and supposedly didn't deserve a respectful death. Yeah... (For extra Fridge Horror its hinted that Celine was killed and the murderer made it look like it was suicide. How's that for messed up?)
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** Except Clary isn't actually creating new runes. It's stated in City of Glass that Ithuriel is showing the runes to Clary and continues to do so.
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* When you realize that the bad guy (Valentine) got the Shadowhunter funeral and the two people he hurt the most (Amatis, Celine) are buried as outcast dead, which means their spirits can't move on. (It makes more sense if you've read ''The Infernal Devices''.
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* Just realized what if the extra angel blood Clary and Jace had enhanced the skills they already possessed. That would partially explain Clary's potential to create new runes, and Jace working so hard to earn his Valentine's approval when he was a kid would explain him being able to jump out of a Malachi configuration.
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*** Yeah its nothing new but its still disturbing nonetheless. Let's see though: Sebastian knows what he's doing but doesn't care, Jordan does as well and did feel guilty about it, at least afterwards when he transformed.
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*** Yeah its nothing new but its still disturbing nonetheless. Let's see though: Sebastian knows what he's doing but doesn't care, Jordan does as well and did feel guilty about it, at least afterwards when he transformed.
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* The reason that Alec gets very little insight into what Jace is feeling through their ''parabatai'' bond is because Jace, being a classic ByronicHero, is such a constant, roiling mass of {{Mangst}} that it is almost impossible to sense the difference between Jace-in-life-threatening-danger or Jace-quietly-reading-a-book-in-his-bedroom.
** This answer would make sense except that the ''parabatai'' bond rarely ever seems to work for any pair.
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* This is more of a meta example but consider how evil Sebastian is. Think about all the cruel things he's done and tried to do from killing a little boy to attacking and trying to rape his sister and worst yet [[spoiler: he tries to destroy the entire world]]. Despite all these things fans still think of him as innocent and feel bad for him, even before the ending where [[spoiler: we meet non-demon Sebastian]], some fans feel he's not evil and that he's cute, Clare even has it that he'd been whipped by Valentine and has at time even shown some ambiguity as to whether she believes he's evil. Fans even ship him and Clary together! A less extreme example is Jordan and Maia. Jordon abused Maia but Clare suddenly gives him the excuse that his werewolfism made him do it and suddenly everyone accepts it. Clare even hand-waves it when some people pointed out that it seems like a poor excuse. Granted [[spoiler: Jordan dies and Maia was planning on breaking up with him but she had a hard time trying to]]. Clare may not be doing it on purpose but she's sort of condoning violent relationships and the fans are eating it up and don't know the difference and if she does notice this she's not doing anything about it. And that's whats horrifying that some people think these things are forgivable.
** Um....''Literature/{{Twilight}}''? The [[UnfortunateImplications current fad seems to be for quasi-abusive relationships]]. Extra points if the guy knows he's doing it, and feels guilty about it.
*** Yeah its nothing new but its still disturbing nonetheless. Let's see though: Sebastian knows what he's doing but doesn't care, Jordan does as well and did feel guilty about it, at least afterwards when he transformed.
** This answer would make sense except that the ''parabatai'' bond rarely ever seems to work for any pair.
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* This is more of a meta example but consider how evil Sebastian is. Think about all the cruel things he's done and tried to do from killing a little boy to attacking and trying to rape his sister and worst yet [[spoiler: he tries to destroy the entire world]]. Despite all these things fans still think of him as innocent and feel bad for him, even before the ending where [[spoiler: we meet non-demon Sebastian]], some fans feel he's not evil and that he's cute, Clare even has it that he'd been whipped by Valentine and has at time even shown some ambiguity as to whether she believes he's evil. Fans even ship him and Clary together! A less extreme example is Jordan and Maia. Jordon abused Maia but Clare suddenly gives him the excuse that his werewolfism made him do it and suddenly everyone accepts it. Clare even hand-waves it when some people pointed out that it seems like a poor excuse. Granted [[spoiler: Jordan dies and Maia was planning on breaking up with him but she had a hard time trying to]]. Clare may not be doing it on purpose but she's sort of condoning violent relationships and the fans are eating it up and don't know the difference and if she does notice this she's not doing anything about it. And that's whats horrifying that some people think these things are forgivable.
** Um....''Literature/{{Twilight}}''? The [[UnfortunateImplications current fad seems to be for quasi-abusive relationships]]. Extra points if the guy knows he's doing it, and feels guilty about it.
*** Yeah its nothing new but its still disturbing nonetheless. Let's see though: Sebastian knows what he's doing but doesn't care, Jordan does as well and did feel guilty about it, at least afterwards when he transformed.
