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* HitlersTimeTravelExemption happens because [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade Hitler was a battlemage]]. There are historical reports that Hitler was abused in his childhood by an insane father, then blamed a Jewish doctor for the death of his mother - and in this series, magic is fueled by pain. This means that ''any'' sadistic tyrant in history, tortured by both their monstrous past and TheChainsOfCommanding, could be an archmage; politically ''and'' magically powerful enough to destroy the lives of millions, broken enough to gleefully (or subconsciously) will it, and magically defended to prevent the only people capable of time travel from ever doing anything about it. If anything, over time (travel) natural selection would kill off any tyrant who wasn't a wizard and leave the supernatural fully in charge of human history.
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** Ember says, he knew about his circumstances and barred him entrance, seeing him as "defiled", which actually lead him to becoming the Beast. [[spoiler:Apparently Ember just found the situation distasteful and didn't want Martin ruining the mood]].

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** Ember says, says he knew about his circumstances and barred him entrance, seeing him as "defiled", which actually lead him to becoming the Beast. [[spoiler:Apparently Ember just found the situation distasteful and didn't want Martin ruining the mood]].
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* While it seems bizarre at first, Hades playing [[VideoGame/UntitledGooseGame]] actually makes perfect sense. What better game for a god to play than one where you screw with the lives of random people?


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* While it seems bizarre at first, Hades playing [[VideoGame/UntitledGooseGame]] Untitled Goose Game actually makes perfect sense. What better game for a god to play than one where you screw with the lives of random people?

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* While it seems bizarre at first, Hades playing [[VideoGames/UntitledGooseGame]] actually makes perfect sense. What better game for a god to play than one where you screw with the lives of random people?


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* While it seems bizarre at first, Hades playing [[VideoGames/UntitledGooseGame]] [[VideoGame/UntitledGooseGame]] actually makes perfect sense. What better game for a god to play than one where you screw with the lives of random people?

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* While it seems bizarre at first, Hades playing [[VideoGames/UntitledGooseGame]] actually makes perfect sense. What better game for a god to play than one where you screw with the lives of random people?

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* The book and series are implied to be two of multiple timelines Jane produced in her efforts to kill The Beast. Many of the characters in the series were RaceLift-ed from their original Caucasian selves. This implies that Jane went so far as to somehow ''alter the ancestry of the main characters'' as one of the factors in forging a timeline where they pulled it off. Did she keep people from meeting? Did she ''kill'' people?

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* The book and series are implied to be two of multiple timelines Jane produced in her efforts to kill The Beast. Many of the characters in the series were RaceLift-ed from their original Caucasian selves. This implies that Jane went so far as to somehow ''alter the ancestry of the main characters'' as one of the factors in forging a timeline where they pulled it off. Did she keep people from meeting? Did she ''kill'' people?people?
* The de-powered Reynard is shown to have a bunch of feminist lit and similar books in his apartment. Now, how would a rapist get his victim to let down her guard? Perhaps by having a friendly conversation about books. Looks like the world might have been better off if Julia had popped a cap in him after all.
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* The book is implied to be one of the multiple timelines Jane produced in her efforts to kill The Beast. Many of the characters in the series were RaceLift-ed from their original Caucasian selves. This implies that Jane went so far as to somehow ''alter the ancestry of the main characters'' as one of the factors in forging a timeline where they pulled it off. Did she keep people from meeting? Did she ''kill'' people?

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* The book is and series are implied to be one two of the multiple timelines Jane produced in her efforts to kill The Beast. Many of the characters in the series were RaceLift-ed from their original Caucasian selves. This implies that Jane went so far as to somehow ''alter the ancestry of the main characters'' as one of the factors in forging a timeline where they pulled it off. Did she keep people from meeting? Did she ''kill'' people?
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* The book is implied to be one of the multiple timelines Jane produced in her efforts to kill The Beast. Many of the characters in the series were RaceLift-ed from their original Caucasian selves. This implies that Jane went so far as to somehow ''alter the ancestry of the main characters'' as one of the factors in forging a good timeline.

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* The book is implied to be one of the multiple timelines Jane produced in her efforts to kill The Beast. Many of the characters in the series were RaceLift-ed from their original Caucasian selves. This implies that Jane went so far as to somehow ''alter the ancestry of the main characters'' as one of the factors in forging a good timeline.timeline where they pulled it off. Did she keep people from meeting? Did she ''kill'' people?

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* [[spoiler: Margo revealing the truth about the spirits didn’t improve anything - it just changed who the victims were. Sure, their handy for laundry, but they were prepared to execute someone for cheating on his wife. Absolute power and all that, and given that the women can now ‘’kill’’ men just by getting angry, and they have no recourse or counter to it, the women are quite powerful. There’s also no indication anyone but the Foremost and his assistant knew the truth, in fact given that he said “If you intend to tell our people...” rather than “our women,” it’s likely only he and the female magician working with him knew.]]

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* [[spoiler: Margo revealing the truth about the spirits didn’t improve anything - it just changed who the victims were. Sure, their handy for laundry, but they were prepared to execute someone for cheating on his wife. Absolute power and all that, and given that the women can now ‘’kill’’ men just by getting angry, and they have no recourse or counter to it, the women are quite powerful. There’s also no indication anyone but the Foremost and his assistant knew the truth, in fact given that he said “If you intend to tell our people...” rather than “our women,” it’s likely only he and the female magician working with him knew.]]]]
* The book is implied to be one of the multiple timelines Jane produced in her efforts to kill The Beast. Many of the characters in the series were RaceLift-ed from their original Caucasian selves. This implies that Jane went so far as to somehow ''alter the ancestry of the main characters'' as one of the factors in forging a good timeline.
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** [[spoiler: Kady wasn't a drug dealer, she was undecover cop posing as one]].
** Actually entirely Jossed, after the reveal that Fogg [[spoiler: based the identities on a comic book, so the incongruities are just that the book couldn't reasonably be expected to have something perfect for everybody he used the potion on.]]

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** [[spoiler: Kady wasn't a drug dealer, she was undecover cop posing as one]].
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Even witht he reveal that the identies were based on a graphic novel Fogg had, the identites given to the characters make sense:]]
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[[spoiler: based Margo is made a Fashion Magazine editor which is a high position in a cutthroat business which fits her to a T while Kady is an undercover cop, a reverse from the identities on a comic book, so first season where she was TheMole for Hedge Witches. A professional Uber driver is the incongruities are just that the book couldn't reasonably be expected to have something perfect job for everybody he used the potion on.[[TheStoner Josh]] who can be his own boss. Meanwhile Penny 23 is an underground DJ that is mentioned to bang groupies mirroring pre-CharacterDevelopment Penny 40 not mentioning how "Hansel's" personality is ''way'' more calm mirroring how 23 is nicer than 40.]]

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* [[spoiler: Julia's entrance into Brakebills as Kim seems familiar at first, especially her meeting Todd. Turns out to be a meta version of how Quentin arrived at Brakebills, with Todd standing in for Eliot.]]

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* [[spoiler: Julia's Kimber/Julia's entrance into Brakebills as Kim seems familiar at first, especially her meeting Todd. Turns out to be a meta version of how Quentin arrived at Brakebills, with Todd standing in for Eliot. For bonus points, Todd’s first name is Eliot, he just goes by his middle name because Eliot invoked OneSteveLimit.]]



** She had them in every timeline, being such a bitch, and was able to defend herself, [[spoiler: it takes immensely powerful BadLuckCharm to catch her off-guard.]]

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** She had them in every timeline, being such a bitch, and was able to defend herself, [[spoiler: it takes immensely powerful BadLuckCharm to catch her off-guard.]]
* [[spoiler: Margo revealing the truth about the spirits didn’t improve anything - it just changed who the victims were. Sure, their handy for laundry, but they were prepared to execute someone for cheating on his wife. Absolute power and all that, and given that the women can now ‘’kill’’ men just by getting angry, and they have no recourse or counter to it, the women are quite powerful. There’s also no indication anyone but the Foremost and his assistant knew the truth, in fact given that he said “If you intend to tell our people...” rather than “our women,” it’s likely only he and the female magician working with him knew.
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* When Zelda is making photocopies of Beast's book requested by Penny, she isn't exploiting a loophole, but fulfilling the rules in both letter and spirit: the point of existence of the Library is preserving and spreading knowledge, and while she cannot lend the book itself to Penny, since he's not vetted and granted the card yet, her job is still to help him find the answers. As long as the book in question isn't forbidden, she's required to do something like that.
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** Eliot and Mike did have sex. But at the time, Eliot had no idea that Mike was possessed, and was fully into it. Part of Eliot's breakdown after being forced to kill Mike may have been the realization that he was duped into sex with the Beast.
*** Eliot was shown to have strong enough feelings for Mike that he wanted to have him be a part of the Eliot+Margo dynamic. This is no small thing. And may partly explain why Eliot was so gun-shy about Quentin, since his last serious consideration for a romantic partnership ended so poorly.
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* Penny's conscious reason for hating Quentin because he can always hear Q's thoughts. Below the surface, though, he may also be jealous of Q's ability to connect and be vulnerable with others. Penny has an iron-clad wall of 2-feet-thick cement between himself and everyone except Kady. Being around such an open, trusting person as Q must be both terrifying and enviable to someone who keeps himself utterly closed off for his own survival.

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* Penny's conscious reason for hating Quentin is because he can always hear Q's thoughts. Below the surface, though, he may also be jealous of Q's ability to connect and be vulnerable with others. Penny has an iron-clad wall of 2-feet-thick cement between himself and everyone except Kady. Being around such an open, trusting person as Q must be both terrifying and enviable to someone who keeps himself utterly closed off for his own survival.
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* Penny's conscious reason for hating Quentin because he can always hear Q's thoughts. Below the surface, thokugh, he may also be jealous of Q's ability to connect and be vulnerable with others. Penny has an iron-clad wall of 2-feet-thick cement between himself and everyone except Kady. Being around such an open, trusting person as Q must be both terrifying and enviable to someone who keeps himself utterly closed off for his own survival.

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* Penny's conscious reason for hating Quentin because he can always hear Q's thoughts. Below the surface, thokugh, though, he may also be jealous of Q's ability to connect and be vulnerable with others. Penny has an iron-clad wall of 2-feet-thick cement between himself and everyone except Kady. Being around such an open, trusting person as Q must be both terrifying and enviable to someone who keeps himself utterly closed off for his own survival.
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* Penny's conscious reason for hating Quentin because he can always read Q's thoughts. Below the surface, though, he may also be jealous of Q's ability to connect and be vulnerable with others. Penny has an iron-clad wall of 2-feet-thick cement between himself and everyone except Kady. Being around such an open, trusting person as Q must be both terrifying and enviable to someone who keeps himself utterly closed off for his own survival.

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* Penny's conscious reason for hating Quentin because he can always read hear Q's thoughts. Below the surface, though, thokugh, he may also be jealous of Q's ability to connect and be vulnerable with others. Penny has an iron-clad wall of 2-feet-thick cement between himself and everyone except Kady. Being around such an open, trusting person as Q must be both terrifying and enviable to someone who keeps himself utterly closed off for his own survival.
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* Pete's assault on Julia and the strong sexual assault implications before backing down seem to come from nowhere. Then you realize that magic comes from pain and his actions resulted in Julia's 'party trick' becoming genuinely dangerous. It was likely he was trying to get Julia to demonstrate her powers by engaging in a fight-or-flight response.
* Penny's hatred of Quentin comes from the fact that he can always read Quentin's thoughts. However, that could go deeper than that: even though he suffers from depression, Quentin seems to be more of an open person in general than Penny, who is guarded around everyone else due to his abilities (with the exception of Kady). Being around someone who is able to connect better to others can be irritating to someone who basically has to protect himself all the time.

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* Pete's assault on Julia and the strong sexual assault implications before backing down seem to come from nowhere. Then you realize that magic comes from pain and his actions resulted in Julia's 'party trick' becoming genuinely dangerous. It was likely he was trying to get Julia to demonstrate her powers by engaging in a fight-or-flight response.
* Penny's hatred of conscious reason for hating Quentin comes from the fact that because he can always read Quentin's Q's thoughts. However, that could go deeper than that: even though Below the surface, though, he suffers from depression, Quentin seems may also be jealous of Q's ability to connect and be more vulnerable with others. Penny has an iron-clad wall of an open person in general than Penny, who is guarded around 2-feet-thick cement between himself and everyone else due to his abilities (with the exception of Kady). except Kady. Being around someone who is able to connect better to others can such an open, trusting person as Q must be irritating both terrifying and enviable to someone who basically has to protect keeps himself all the time.utterly closed off for his own survival.
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* That the Muntjac would side with Margo and Eliot over Tick is completely justified since Eliot is clearly enamoured with the ship from the moment he first steps aboard and Margo made it clear that she respects the Muntjac's bodily autonomy no matter the stakes, while Tick showed his aversion to the idea of self-aware naval assets early on.

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