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* Why do all of Una's brothers like her, even though they've been trying to kill each other for years? Since the throne ''must'' go to a male heir, they didn't see her as a threat, and so could allow themselves to be affectionate towards her; plus, even if she did have a son at some point, they would have assumed that one of them would be king by then and her child would have no chance at taking the throne.

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* Why do all of Una's brothers like her, even though despite the fact that they've been trying to kill each other for years? Since the throne ''must'' go to a male heir, they didn't don't see her as a threat, and so could can allow themselves to be affectionate towards her; plus, her. Plus, even if she did have a son at some point, they would have assumed that one of them would be king by then and her child would have no chance at taking the throne.



* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because life with Ditchwater Sal seemed like an improvement over the family of backstabbers she'd been raised with! Also, she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think about it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the book, where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But, was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold, thanks to all his murderous uncles running around.

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* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because life with Ditchwater Sal seemed like an improvement over the family of backstabbers she'd been raised with! Also, she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think about it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the book, where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But, was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold, thanks to all his murderous uncles running around.
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* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because it seemed like an improvement over the family she'd been raised with! Also, she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think about it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the book, where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But, was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold, thanks to all his murderous uncles running around.

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* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because it life with Ditchwater Sal seemed like an improvement over the family of backstabbers she'd been raised with! Also, she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think about it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the book, where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But, was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold, thanks to all his murderous uncles running around.
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* In the movie, there's a scene where the dead princes attempt to pick up the ruby that the king used to initiate their race for the throne. One of them mentions that they think it's "giving a little", as in, they may be able to physically affect it. If that wasn't just wishful thinking, it may have been deliberate; they'd need more force to actually move it, which would imply they wouldn't get it anywhere unless all the princes were dead, and they would thus need to somehow get it into the hands of another heir.

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* In the movie, there's a scene where the dead princes attempt to pick up the ruby that the king used to initiate their race for the throne. One of them mentions that they think it's "giving a little", little" -- as in, they may be able to physically affect it. If that wasn't just wishful thinking, it may have been deliberate; they'd need more force to actually move it, which would imply they wouldn't get it anywhere unless all the princes were dead, and they would thus need to somehow get it into the hands of another heir.



* Why do all of Una's brothers like her, even though they've been trying to kill each other for years? Since the throne ''must'' go to a male heir they didn't see her as a threat, and so could allow themselves to be affectionate towards her; plus, even if she did have a son at some point, they would have assumed that one of them would be king by then and her child would have no chance at taking the throne.
* Why did none of the seven princes seem to have children of their own, despite all being well into adult hood and in a society where they are more or less required to sire their own heir? Well giving how cut throat the royal family is, they likely realize any child they fathered could be endangered if they turned out to be a boy. (If their brothers even waited to find out.) So there was likely an understanding that none of them should try to sire their own children until their "claim to the throne was secure".

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* Why do all of Una's brothers like her, even though they've been trying to kill each other for years? Since the throne ''must'' go to a male heir heir, they didn't see her as a threat, and so could allow themselves to be affectionate towards her; plus, even if she did have a son at some point, they would have assumed that one of them would be king by then and her child would have no chance at taking the throne.
* Why did none of the seven princes seem to have children of their own, despite all being well into adult hood adulthood and in a society where they are more or less required to sire their own heir? Well giving Well, given how cut throat cutthroat the royal family is, they likely realize any child they fathered could would be endangered if they turned out to be a boy. (If boy (if their brothers even waited to find out.) So out), so there was likely an understanding that none of them should try to sire their own children until their "claim to the throne was secure".



** In that regard, [[spoiler: the movie narrating how Tristan and Yvainne went on to have lots of children and ''grown'' grandchildren by the time they moved on does give a rather lovely implication that [[NiceGuy Tristan]] was the first to end the tradition. If they don't have to fight tooth and nail for their claim of the throne, then it would be safe for their progeny to have children without fear of being assassinated and such.]]

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** In that regard, [[spoiler: the movie narrating how Tristan and Yvainne went would go on to have lots of children and ''grown'' grandchildren by the time they moved on to the heavens does give a rather lovely implication that [[NiceGuy Tristan]] was the first to end the tradition. If they don't have to fight tooth and nail for their claim of the throne, then it would be safe for their progeny to have children without fear of being assassinated and such.]]



* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because it seemed like an improvement over the family she'd been raised with! And she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think of it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the bookverse where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But it was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold – with his murderous uncles running around.

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* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because it seemed like an improvement over the family she'd been raised with! And Also, she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think of about it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the bookverse book, where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But it But, was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold – with Stormhold, thanks to all his murderous uncles running around.
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* Of course Septimus was the one prince to go to hell. He killed the bishop.

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* Of course Septimus was the one prince to go to hell. He Aside from being the most overtly sociopathic (the others mostly give the impression that they're murdering each other out of self-preservation/because it's what they've been taught, and confine their targets to each other, whereas Septimus casually kills pretty much anyone in his way), he killed the bishop.

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** That would explain why their father is as old as he is. Like them, he must've waited until ''his'' claim to the throne to sire any children of his own.
** In that regard, [[spoiler: the movie narrating how Tristan and Yvainne went on to have lots of children and ''grown'' grandchildren by the time they moved on does give a rather lovely implication that [[NiceGuy Tristan]] was the first to end the tradition. If they don't have to fight tooth and nail for their claim of the throne, then it would be safe for their progeny to have children without fear of being assassinated and such.]]
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* Why did none of the seven princes seem to have children of their own, despite all being well into adult hood and in a society where they are more or less required to sire their own heir? Well giving how cut throat the royal family is, they likely realize any child they fathered could be endangered if they turned out to be a boy. (If their brothers even waited to find out.) So there was likely an understanding that none of them should try to sire their own children till their "claim to the throne was secure".

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* Why did none of the seven princes seem to have children of their own, despite all being well into adult hood and in a society where they are more or less required to sire their own heir? Well giving how cut throat the royal family is, they likely realize any child they fathered could be endangered if they turned out to be a boy. (If their brothers even waited to find out.) So there was likely an understanding that none of them should try to sire their own children till until their "claim to the throne was secure".
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* Why did none of the seven princes seem to have children of their own, despite all being well into adult hood and in a society where they are more or less required to sire their own heir? Well giving how cut throat the royal family is, they likely realize any child they fathered could be endanger if they turned out to be a boy. (If their brothers even waited to find out.) So there was likely an understanding that none of them should try to sire their own children till their "claim to the throne was secure".

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* Why did none of the seven princes seem to have children of their own, despite all being well into adult hood and in a society where they are more or less required to sire their own heir? Well giving how cut throat the royal family is, they likely realize any child they fathered could be endanger endangered if they turned out to be a boy. (If their brothers even waited to find out.) So there was likely an understanding that none of them should try to sire their own children till their "claim to the throne was secure".
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* Why did none of the seven princes seem to have children of their own, despite all being well into adult hood and in a society where they are more or less required to sire their own heir? Well giving how cut throat the royal family is, they likely realize any child they fathered could be endanger if they turned out to be a boy. (If their brothers even waited to find out.) So there was likely an understanding that none of them should try to sire their own children till their "claim to the throne was secure".

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* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because it seemed like an improvement over the family she'd been raised with!
** And she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think of it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the bookverse where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But it was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold – with his murderous uncles running around.
** It was more the fact that the chain seemed to act as a RestrainingBolt as well as keeping her prisoner, she had been enslaved to Ditchwater Sal for nearly 20 years, and Sal is shown to have no problem falling asleep around Una, which implies Una couldn't even attempt to kill Sal, she had no problem with her family, after all it was an HeirClubForMen, she was in no danger, even Septimus lampshades it when introduced, all the family look at him when mentioning Una's disappearance, that he had no reason to kill her, the only danger she would have been in is if she had Tristan within the court after one of her brothers had been made King, then he would be seen as a threat to her brothers children, but that thankfully never happened.

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* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because it seemed like an improvement over the family she'd been raised with!
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with! And she left Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think of it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the bookverse where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But it was still ''less'' risky than letting Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold – with his murderous uncles running around.
** It was more the fact that the chain seemed to act as a RestrainingBolt as well as keeping her prisoner, she had been enslaved to Ditchwater Sal for nearly 20 years, and Sal is shown to have no problem falling asleep around Una, which implies Una couldn't even attempt to kill Sal, she had no problem with her family, after all it was an HeirClubForMen, she was in no danger, even Septimus lampshades it when introduced, all the family look at him when mentioning Una's disappearance, that he had no reason to kill her, the only danger she would have been in is if she had Tristan within the court after one of her brothers had been made King, then he would be seen as a threat to her brothers children, but that thankfully never happened.
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* Why do all of Una's brothers like her, even though they've been trying to kill each other for years? Since the throne ''must'' go to a male heir they didn't see her as a threat, and so could allow themselves to be affectionate towards her; plus, even if she did have a son at some point, they would have assumed that one of them would be king by then and her child would have no chance at taking the throne.
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** It was more the fact that the chain seemed to act as a RestrainingBolt as well as keeping her prisoner, she had been enslaved to Ditchwater Sal for nearly 20 years, and Sal is shown to have no problem falling asleep around Una, which implies Una couldn't even attempt to kill Sal, she had no problem with her family, after all it was an HeirClubForMen, she was in no danger, even Septimus lampshades it when introduced, all the family look at him when mentioning Una's disappearance, that he had no reason to kill her, the only danger she would have been in is if she had Tristan within the court after one of her brothers had been made King, then he would be seen as a threat to her brothers children, but that thankfully never happened.
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** And she left Trist(r)an at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think of it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the bookverse where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But it was still ''less'' risky than letting Trist(r)an be raised with someone from Stormhold – with his murderous uncles running around.

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** And she left Trist(r)an Tristan at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think of it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the bookverse where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But it was still ''less'' risky than letting Trist(r)an Tristan be raised with someone from Stormhold – with his murderous uncles running around.
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* Of course Septimus was the one prince to go to hell. He killed the bishop.

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* Michelle Pfeiffer's character is seen wearing a matted ginger wig later in the film. If you pay attention early in the film, you might guess where that hair came from.

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* At the end, Tristan is shown to have become a star with Yvaine, but apparently stars are female, does that mean that he became a woman?
** Well two answers to this. One, we only saw two stars in the movie. So just because both of them were female doesn't mean all stars are female. And also, in the book, stars are immortal and Tristan simply dies whilst Yvaine simply lives on as their immortal Queen.
** Besides, it can also be that trueborn stars are indeed female and Tristan is just the first human to become one. No star before Yvaine has lived long enough on Earth to fall in love with a human, so there has simply been no precedent.

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* Michelle Pfeiffer's character is seen wearing a matted ginger wig later in the film. If you pay attention early in the film, you might guess where that hair came from.

!!FridgeLogic

* At the end, Tristan is shown to have become a star with Yvaine, but apparently stars are female, does that mean that he became a woman?
** Well two answers to this. One, we only saw two stars in the movie. So just because both of them were female doesn't mean all stars are female. And also, in the book, stars are immortal and Tristan simply dies whilst Yvaine simply lives on as their immortal Queen.
** Besides, it can also be that trueborn stars are indeed female and Tristan is just the first human to become one. No star before Yvaine has lived long enough on Earth to fall in love with a human, so there has simply been no precedent.
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!! FridgeBrilliance
* In the movie, there's a scene where the dead princes attempt to pick up the ruby that the king used to initiate their race for the throne. One of them mentions that they think it's "giving a little", as in, they may be able to physically affect it. If that wasn't just wishful thinking, it may have been deliberate; they'd need more force to actually move it, which would imply they wouldn't get it anywhere unless all the princes were dead, and they would thus need to somehow get it into the hands of another heir.
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* Michelle Pfeiffer's character is seen wearing a matted ginger wig later in the film. If you pay attention early in the film, you might guess where that hair came from.
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* Why did the witch who captured Una not bother trying to get a ransom or something? Una's a ''princess'' and her brothers clearly cared for her, why keep her as a slave when she can demand money and be rich?

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* Why did the witch who captured Una not bother trying to get a ransom or something? Una's a ''princess'' and her brothers clearly cared for her, why keep her as a slave when she can demand money and be rich?
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* Why did the witch who captured Una not bother trying to get a ransom or something? Una's a ''princess'' and her brothers clearly cared for her, why keep her as a slave when she can demand money and be rich?
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** And she left Trist(r)an at the Wall. Quite risky, if you think of it: the guard could have been frightened of the other side and superstitious enough to just think "oh no, no fairy changelings please" or "well, the child's from there, so it's their problem" and leave the boy lying there. Not to mention that Dunstan could have simply refused to take him (especially in the bookverse where he was married and Daisy was pregnant already at the time). But it was still ''less'' risky than letting Trist(r)an be raised with someone from Stormhold – with his murderous uncles running around.



** Well two answers to this. One, we only saw two stars in the movie. So just because both of them were female doesn't mean all stars are female. And also, in the book, star's are immortal and Tristan simply dies whilst Yvaine simply lives on as their immortal Queen

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** Well two answers to this. One, we only saw two stars in the movie. So just because both of them were female doesn't mean all stars are female. And also, in the book, star's stars are immortal and Tristan simply dies whilst Yvaine simply lives on as their immortal Queen
Queen.
** Besides, it can also be that trueborn stars are indeed female and Tristan is just the first human to become one. No star before Yvaine has lived long enough on Earth to fall in love with a human, so there has simply been no precedent.
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** Well two answers to this. One, we only saw two stars in the movie. So just because both of them were female doesn't mean all stars are female. And also, in the book, star's are immortal and Tristan simply dies whilst Yvaine simply lives on as their immortal Queen
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* Why didn't Una try harder to escape her captor all those years? Maybe because it seemed like an improvement over the family she'd been raised with!

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* At the end, Tristan is shown to have become a star with Yvaine, but apparently stars are female, does that mean that he became a woman?

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